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Look out!! (5, Funny)

beatdown (788583) | about 9 years ago | (#12088460)

Here come the Aquadorks!

Future MIT students (5, Insightful)

gr8_phk (621180) | about 9 years ago | (#12088462)

must attend high school somewhere. Right?

Doesn't say much for education (4, Interesting)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | about 9 years ago | (#12088492)

must attend high school somewhere. Right?

Even granting that, it would indicate that said MIT education didn't make them any better. And think, all those student loans for nothing? ;)

Obviously the entire story is somewhat facetious.

Re:Doesn't say much for education (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088591)

Going to college isn't to make you smarter, or more educated, it is to tell a future employer that you can put up with a bunch of BS for at least 4 years.

Re:Doesn't say much for education (2, Insightful)

elgatozorbas (783538) | about 9 years ago | (#12088743)

it would indicate that said MIT education didn't make them any better

...at robot competitions. Maybe they have other talents.

These are not Future MIT students (5, Insightful)

RichMan (8097) | about 9 years ago | (#12088546)

RTFA, unless someone with $ steps up to the plate these are not future MIT students. They are currently in manual labor jobs and likely to stay there.

These students come from disadvantaged backgrounds and are unable to get into MIT. Half of them have graduated and they are not getting further education as they cannot afford it.

Re:These are not Future MIT students (2, Interesting)

skyshock21 (764958) | about 9 years ago | (#12088617)

Surely there's scholarships available for people as bright as they are! There's TONS of money out there to be had, you just have to look for it.

Not to mention any job an MIT grad will probably get will most likely pay for student loans in no time. You'd be foolish NOT to get one with interest rates around 3% these days!

Re:These are not Future MIT students (5, Informative)

RichMan (8097) | about 9 years ago | (#12088668)

From the article (it is good, I suggest you read it) there are links to a scholarship fund for these 4 as well as comments in general on a proposed federal act. These families probably cannot even afford the 3% interest.

Oscar wipes the white gypsum dust from his face. It's a hot Tuesday afternoon in Phoenix, and he's hanging sheetrock. He graduated from Carl Hayden last spring, and this is the best work he can find. He enjoys walking into the half-built homes and analyzing the engineering. He thinks it'll keep him sharp until he can save up enough money to study engineering at Arizona State University. It will cost him approximately $50,000 as an out-of-state student. That's a lot of sheet-rocking.

Luis also graduated and is filing papers in a Phoenix Social Security Services office. Cristian and Lorenzo are now juniors. Their families can barely support themselves, let alone raise the money to send their kids to college. Last summer, Cristian's hopes flagged even further when his family was forced to spend $3,000 to replace the decrepit air-conditioning unit in their aluminum trailer. Without AC, the trailer turns into a double-wide oven in the desert heat.

And they're not alone. Approximately 60,000 undocumented students graduate from US high schools every year. One promising solution, according to Cameron and other advocates for immigrant kids, is the Dream Act, federal legislation that would give in-state tuition and temporary resident status to undocumented students who graduate from a US high school after being enrolled in the States for five years or more. The bill, which was introduced in 2003 and is slated to be resubmitted this spring, aims to give undocumented students a reason to stay in school. If they do, the act promises financial assistance for college. In turn, immigrants would pay taxes and be able to contribute their talents to the US.

Some immigration activists don't see it that way. Ira Mehlman, the Los Angeles-based media director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, successfully lobbied against the legislation last year. He says it will put citizens and legal immigrants in direct competition for the limited number of seats at state colleges. "What will you say," he asks, "to an American kid who does not get into a state university and whose family cannot afford a private college because that seat and that subsidy have been given to someone who is in the country illegally?"

They could be. (0)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 9 years ago | (#12088716)

Click the link and give some cash. If enough people do that they will get to go to college. Okay Bill pony up some bucks.

Re:These are not Future MIT students (4, Interesting)

KillerDeathRobot (818062) | about 9 years ago | (#12088742)

So, why is it they can't apply for citizenship?

Seriously, if they were legal citizens, I know there are lots of scholarships out there for hispanics particularly, and probably particularly for engineering too. MIT would be well within reach if they were legal citizens.

Re:These are not Future MIT students (3, Insightful)

faloi (738831) | about 9 years ago | (#12088756)

All things considered, and I'm sure I'll get flamed for it, if they're undocumented they probably shouldn't have access to the same opportunities at public expense. I realize they're incredibily bright, but let them get documentation allowing them to be in the country legally before we spend public money on them. Private money is another matter, obviously, but they shouldn't have access to some of the federally and state funded programs that citizens (or documented persons) have access to.

Re:These are not Future MIT students (1)

killmenow (184444) | about 9 years ago | (#12088710)

Seems to me that MIT is actually doing something to help people in situations like this. All they need is Internet access and they can go to MIT [mit.edu], sort of. They'll earn no degree, but they could still get an education.

selection bias (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088575)

Which subgroup of MIT students compete in such an event? The best and brightest? The dregs? I don't know, I'm just throwing out the possibilty that they are not average or typical MIT students.

Re:Future MIT students (4, Informative)

slughead (592713) | about 9 years ago | (#12088636)

I was going to go to this high school. It's a dump but there were far more [gang] fights/shootings at the school I ended up going to (North HS), which was literally across the street from the Phoenix Country Club.

Carl Hayden has a nice computer-oriented "magnet" program that attracts a lot of nerds, probably the same that won this competition.

Re:Future MIT students (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088709)

Future Harvard students, you mean.

Flea Market (-1, Offtopic)

turtled (845180) | about 9 years ago | (#12088471)

The students, who are all undocumented Mexican immigrants, built their robot on the cheap in just three days, using PVC pipe, off-the-shelf electronics and a few tampons...

Man, is it Flea Market season already?

Re:Flea Market (0, Offtopic)

dfn5 (524972) | about 9 years ago | (#12088570)

Man, is it Flea Market season already?

Actually, yes. April 17th [mit.edu]. Don't miss the first one. It has the best crap.

Kids ? (-1, Troll)

mirko (198274) | about 9 years ago | (#12088472)

I'm sorry, but the guy with glasses and a whtie beard on this photo [freewebs.com] doesn't exactly look a kid to me.

Re:Kids ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088504)


Re:Kids ? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088635)


Thats teacher Allan Cameron, the other bearded guy is also a teacher Fredi Lajvardi.

Scholarships? (4, Funny)

carninja (792514) | about 9 years ago | (#12088476)

I think MIT should be sending these kids scholarships right about now if they wanna save any sort of face.

Re:Scholarships? (5, Informative)

leerpm (570963) | about 9 years ago | (#12088690)

Read the article, these kids cannot even qualify because they are considered undocumented immigrants.

Re:Scholarships? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088703)

MIT gives no scholarships.

blackjack! (1)

bizmark22 (823743) | about 9 years ago | (#12088479)

Wow a whole new twist on the MIT blackjack scam.. now we can use underage kids! They wouldn't dare beat them into submission in some back room of a skanky casino...

would they?

Re:blackjack! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088679)

Of course, you know that the MIT blackjack players LOST money, don't you?

explanation (1, Funny)

mmkkbb (816035) | about 9 years ago | (#12088485)

MIT students have access to higher quality chemistry supplies anf facilities to synthesize their preferred extracurricular activity accelerators.

what's the news here? (5, Insightful)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | about 9 years ago | (#12088486)

"Talent" is not something exclusive to MIT people.

Re:what's the news here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088579)

That colleges aren't all they're cracked up to be? That 90% of these kids will probably attend a public college after high school? That MIT is a "name" only? You might spend $30,000 a year on a n education at MIT and find that you could have gotten the same thing at the public college down the street for $10K/year.

But then, many of us knew that. Another waste of time and money... 90% of college degrees are an effort in discipline, and most of the real learning is done "on the job". Other than the hard sciences, math, and computer programming, much of the stuff taught in college is outdated by the time you apply yourself in a real job.
There's very little in college that's worth learning that wasn't taught in high school. But, the fluff that's offered in college has to be offered because the colleges say it's important. It's one of the reasons that college is so expensive. Someone has to subsidize all the Women's Studies majors. Someone has to subsidize all the fluff that really doesn't amount to much in the real world.

Re:what's the news here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088602)

More important, the winners get to chant "I'm better than you-ou" while doing that butter-churning dance.

If you can do that to the stuck-up pricks from some "name" university, it is totally swee-eet.

Re:what's the news here? (0)

Jakhel (808204) | about 9 years ago | (#12088745)

More important, the winners get to chant "I'm better than you-ou" while doing that butter-churning dance.

that's called the cabbage patch

Wow! (4, Insightful)

cOdEgUru (181536) | about 9 years ago | (#12088490)

Before this deteriorates in to a Pro/Anti Immigration flame fest, I cannot but feel awe for these four kids who braced odds to be where they are at now. And to know that the odds piled up against their favor include being alien, poor, living in gang infested streets and yet be capable of this?

For one, I hope the media picks this up, not just Wired. I hope they get as much visibility as they can, on their plight, the lives they live and their achievements. We have all heard and read of ordinary people who surmounted amazing odds to claim their personal victories, but seemingly they happen far less and few in between. What this country need to know is despite poverty, crime and the potential to go wrong, not one, but four kids chose the right, but tough path. And they should be commended for that till kingdom come.

But for what we have seen, the INS would pick them up next week and hand them back to a grateful Mexico.

Re:Wow! (2, Insightful)

Cyclotron_Boy (708254) | about 9 years ago | (#12088613)

I agree. It is important to mention that there are other outlets besides the MIT robotics competition for high school students of all backgrounds to accel. It may sound outdated and corny, but the Science Fair (particularly the ISEF [sciserv.org] provides students with this type of competition designed to show off their technical and scientific achievements, regardless of their backgrounds.

It is nearly science fair season... I must dust off my judging clothes :)

Re:Wow! (1)

zero_offset (200586) | about 9 years ago | (#12088626)

But for what we have seen, the INS would pick them up next week and hand them back to a grateful Mexico.

One can always hope.

Here's a new one for you to hand-wring over:
Is this evidence of a Mexican "brain-drain" phoenomenon?

Re:Wow! (2, Insightful)

dos_dude (521098) | about 9 years ago | (#12088684)

Before this deteriorates in to a Pro/Anti Immigration flame fest...

How could that possibly happen? Where do you think all those MIT students come from?

Obligatory Simpsons (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088494)

Ha Ha!

not surprised (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088496)

"High School Kids Beat MIT..."

I would think the MIT crowd would be used to beatings by now.

Soccer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088498)

But does their robot play soccer?

Re:Soccer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088624)

No, water polo.

That will teach them (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088512)

That will teach MIT not to let high school kids compete in the future.

Yeah but this is college... (3, Funny)

rawyin (870144) | about 9 years ago | (#12088515)

I mean seriously, how many marshmellows can these kids shove up their nostrils?

Lets do some real college science. MIT is too busy building the worlds tallest and most complex beer bong. Now THAT'S cool.

Re:Yeah but this is college... (1)

Zorilla (791636) | about 9 years ago | (#12088581)

More pot smokers need to go into engineering based on the fact alone that they can imagine how to turn anything into a bong including a Cuisinart or a pencil sharpener.

Re:Yeah but this is college... (3, Funny)

garcia (6573) | about 9 years ago | (#12088711)

I can see the magnetic bumper sticker now:

My ex-gang member high-school electronics whiz can beat your MIT graduate student in Battle Bots!

Tough Competition (3, Funny)

aendeuryu (844048) | about 9 years ago | (#12088526)

Hey, you can't blame MIT for getting intimidated. These kids sound rough. Cape Fear Community College came in third.

Before you all yell "DUPE!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088533)

Please remember Rob is going through a divorce. He's not entirely focused on his work at the moment.
Some of you will take glee in this but I'm hoping the bulk sympathize.

Re:Before you all yell "DUPE!" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088565)


Lowered expectations... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088535)

I heard it was an affirmative action judging criteria.

Last Laugh. (0)

darkmeridian (119044) | about 9 years ago | (#12088540)

Wait until the high school kids try to get into MIT...

Re:Last Laugh. (1)

penguinoid (724646) | about 9 years ago | (#12088653)

Wait until the high school kids try to get into MIT...

What, do you think that this sort of achievement won't win them entry into one of the top schools? MIT is not the only thing out there nor is it necessarily the best for your purposes.

Re:Last Laugh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088752)

(shrug) At least MIT's admissions process is completely need-blind (or so I understand it); they probably have a better shot there than anywhere else. Still, two times zero is still zero.

I can't really imagine MIT being so petty as to change their acceptance decision for these kids out of spite. The "respectful competition" culture there is very strong.

Not suprised... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088541)

I manage a team of 10 to 20 engineers, the number depends on the work load. In the past few years, I have had 5 engineers on my team that graduated from MIT. The MIT's were usually the first engineers to be replaced, I have not been impressed!

I call Shenanigans! (-1, Troll)

BalorTFL (766196) | about 9 years ago | (#12088542)

Judging by the bearded old guys in the background, I'm guessing that perhaps these high-school students had a bit of help. Maybe the headline should read, "Engineering professors beat MIT undergrads" instead?

Re:I call Shenanigans! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088638)


If you do, you will see that he was a teacher that started the whole thing, but that the ideas and work came from the team. One of the guys on the team seemed to be very smart.

Start making them citizens (4, Insightful)

goldspider (445116) | about 9 years ago | (#12088543)

"The four teenagers who built it are all undocumented Mexican immigrants who came to this country through tunnels or hidden in the backseats of cars."

These kids are exactly the kind of people we should be encouraging to come to this country; smart, clever, hard-working, creative.

Yet they are here illegally, and something needs to be done about that. If these kids are as smart as the article suggests (and I have no reason to believe otherwise), attaining citizenship shouldn't be particularly taxing.

Re:Start making them citizens (2, Funny)

otis wildflower (4889) | about 9 years ago | (#12088605)

This would be great iff we could boot ignorant, dimwitted, lazy, and whiny native borns at the same time..

(then again, maybe I shouldn't ask too loud ;)

Re:Start making them citizens (0, Flamebait)

jasonmicron (807603) | about 9 years ago | (#12088611)

Their technical knowledge isn't lacking but their common sense definitely is. And even a criminal can be a genius in his/her field.

Re:Start making them citizens (-1, Flamebait)

Trigun (685027) | about 9 years ago | (#12088622)

Given the track record of how you treat Mexican immigrants, I'm sure they're chomping at the bit to give up their boring work in robotics for the fabulous lifestyle of agricultural mule.

Re:Start making them citizens (4, Insightful)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | about 9 years ago | (#12088670)

When it comes down to how I feel about everyone entering this country, they are all at the very least hard-working, and how they get into this country at least implies creativity bordering on self-sacrifice (read the biyearly stories about Mexican thieving 'coyotes').

It just so happens Americans (and thus, politicians) need to figure out what the policy is going to actually be regarding illegal immigrants. Because at some point, all of the following are true:

1.) they don't generate tax revenue for the services they are receiving... and what they are paid is woefully inadequate by U.S. standards
2.) they are generally capable workers
3.) they are generally putting themselves at great bodily danger to risk later eviction
4.) most states have stopped servicing immigrants.

In spite of the fact that in those same states, the immigrants are doing the jobs that Americans won't take.

So we have demand for work that goes undone, supply in the form of willing workers, and ridiculous policies in the middle that reinforce all four points above.

Can you tell I'm in favor of a cross-border working program?

Re:Start making them citizens (1)

penguinoid (724646) | about 9 years ago | (#12088685)

Yet they are here illegally, and something needs to be done about that.

Well, we could try arresting them.

In all seriousness, don't make a law that you don't intend to enforce. There are good reasons for restricting immigration. Sure, there could be exceptions for bright/hard-working people, but these should also be in the laws.

Carl Hayden High School BBS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088554)

Back in the 90's... There MUST be other /.ers that called back in the day. It's been a tech magnet school for a while.

article says MIT 1st; high school 3rd (0)

peter303 (12292) | about 9 years ago | (#12088555)

But it was a fanstastic showing from a minority kid igh school!

Re:article says MIT 1st; high school 3rd (4, Informative)

The Hobo (783784) | about 9 years ago | (#12088633)

Check the second link in the story, click final standings, you'll see the high school ranked first place in the explorer class, the first thing on the PDF. First, not third.
Carl Hayden High School 1
Cape Fear Community College 3

Re:article says MIT 1st; high school 3rd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088652)

Probably best to read the entire article before you comment. MIT placed better in the actual exercises themselves but the overall winner of the competition came from a combination of performance and judges' analysis and awards. These young engineers snagged themselves a first place finish.

Re:article says MIT 1st; high school 3rd - NOPE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088667)

Read it again. They were 3rd after the first round (completing tasks in pool), but other factors (best technical solutions, best technical paper) was also taken into account in deciding the over-all winners.


TREETOP (614689) | about 9 years ago | (#12088558)

RTA!!!... and I really don't care to hear a "David and Goliath" type story about the "underdogs with $800 and a box of tampons" vs the AAAA science schools with unlimited budgets... Didn't you people watch "Junkyard Wars"? Hell, I could build a armored personnel carrier out of a bathtub and a lawnmower. Oh wait, they did that already at Burning Man '04.

Hey gringo! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088563)

does the robot pack a gun and roam the street mugging civilians?

VERY cool! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088566)

I went to this very school for their computer program from 1986 to 1990. Must, say, I think this is awesome. At that time, the robotics work was only in "special projects" class, and consisted of a small robotic arm hooked up to an Amiga. They've certainly come a long way.

At the time, the school was part of a "Magnet Program," a program designed to desegregate the schools and attract more of us "white boys" to the school. We had labs of true IBMs and Compaq PCs, and had classes available for learning programming like BASIC, Pascal, and towards the end C. They had a "State of the art" 3com ethernet, that to see any changes on the server you had log out and back in again. They even had a VAX/VMS system. Quite advanced for a High School, probably even by todays standards.

They're responsible for keeping me from having to work some boring regular job. Now I get to listen to users all day! :P The teacher mentioned in the article Allen Cameron was most definately my favorite as well. Very cool guy. Congrats!

The kids' future (4, Insightful)

kneecarrot (646291) | about 9 years ago | (#12088571)

What is rather sad is that these kids have very few prospects for their future. The end of the article explains how, because of their undocumented status, they can only attend University or College as out-of-state students. This drastically increases the cost.

Yes, I know they are illegal immigrants. But, they are still kids with hopes and dreams.

Re:The kids' future (1)

goldspider (445116) | about 9 years ago | (#12088596)

If they became citizens before applying for college, that would be one less obstacle to overcome.

Yes, I know that there a lot of legal hoops to jump through to attain citizenship, but it gives them the best chance to succeed.

Re:The kids' future (1)

Threni (635302) | about 9 years ago | (#12088722)

> Yes, I know they are illegal immigrants. But, they are still kids with hopes
> and dreams.

Yeah yeah yeah. I want three seperate groups, ok? I want poor, hungry and huddled masses over there there and there, ok?

Carl Hatden!!! (-1, Flamebait)

jumbledInTheHead (837677) | about 9 years ago | (#12088583)

I live in PHoenix, and that is one shitty school, not too mention Arizona has a shameful primary education system which lags in the US which lags to every other developed nation. I had to do a quadruple take, what the fuck. At least some people seem to shine even in shitty circumstances.

bleh (0, Flamebait)

ronsta (815765) | about 9 years ago | (#12088588)

Not to be a /. /snob, but this story was on the boingboing.net and wired.com websites for a while before slashdot picked it up.

Slashdot should just set up an RSS feed from boingboing and rebroadcast it in the Slashdot template.


Re:bleh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088712)

Ummm, this story just showed up yesterday. What are you talking about?

It was in this month's issue and was on embargo til the 31st originally, but I guess they opened it up earlier.

This.... (1)

Null537 (772236) | about 9 years ago | (#12088627)

....reminds me of the US FIRST Robotics Competition [usfirst.org] .

The engineers did the work, but the kids and the sponsor(s) reap the benefits. This isn't much different but at least it is giving kids a place to go after school, and pushing more people into the engineering field, which is something we may not need.

experts vs. newcomers (5, Insightful)

elmartinos (228710) | about 9 years ago | (#12088628)

Often newbies are better than experts. An expert is stuck with the knowledge and experience gathered over time, it is difficult to think outside this box. A newcomer instead can have fresh, unconvential ideas that most experts probably would laugh about but sometimes produce amazing results.

On the other side, this may just be an excuse for my laziness ;-)

You are all idiots. Look at the date (-1, Flamebait)

i41Overlord (829913) | about 9 years ago | (#12088632)

This is an April fools prank. And everyone who has responded so far are all fools.

Re:You are all idiots. Look at the date (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088672)

Actually, I believe it to be you who is the idiot. The latest issue of Wired actually contains the hard copy of the article so maybe you should return to your post as Overlord of Dairy Queen.

Re:You are all idiots. Look at the date (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088704)

Mod parent up +1 pwned.

Sad (3, Interesting)

dos_dude (521098) | about 9 years ago | (#12088658)

Really sad. Not that some high school kids can build better robots than the MIT. But that they beat the MIT in the 'Technical Report' category is really sad.

I also find it amusing that the MIT would enter a competition that seems to be targeted towards high schools. Or should I find that sad too?

Suspicious (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088661)

That MIT is the only well-known university in this competition...is it Massachusetts Institute of Technology, or some other MIT?

Ockham's(Occam's) Razor (3, Insightful)

FidelCatsro (861135) | about 9 years ago | (#12088669)

as we learn more ,we tend to like to complicate things when sometimes a far easier explination or device would suffice.
They simplified many of the concepts in the design , to finaly produce a much sleaker robot with a greater performance .The simple idea of having onboard power and a lighter tether was a great advantage which threw the game in their favour .
The design seems wonderuflly direct and simple , a good example of occam's razor in the eveloution of robots "dont add more than you need
PS:"i apoligise if i missed something TFA is loading at a snails pace for me

Best Quote from the Article (5, Funny)

cOdEgUru (181536) | about 9 years ago | (#12088671)

Swean (head of the Navy's Ocean Engineering and Marine Systems program) nodded. He eyed their rudimentary flip chart.

"Why don't you have a PowerPoint display?" he asked.

"PowerPoint is a distraction," Cristian replied. "People use it when they don't know what to say."

"And you know what to say?"

"Yes, sir."

DAMN!!! :)

Followup (4, Insightful)

saddino (183491) | about 9 years ago | (#12088682)

This article [washingtonpost.com] from the Washington Post follows-up the story in Wired. In short (and I suppose unsuprisingly), college isn't an option due to their illegal status (no loans, no in-state tuition). Of the two who have graduated high school: One of them is hanging drywall, and the other files papers at a Social Secuirty office.

Not quite as cool (0, Troll)

TheFlu (213162) | about 9 years ago | (#12088693)

"A bunch of bright high school kids from Carl Hayden Highschool beat out MIT in a Marine Technology Center's Robotics competition."

That's pretty cool, but not quite as cool as if a bunch of retarded high school kids had beat them instead.

Cluster... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12088730)

Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these high school kids...

Competition scores (1)

gorbachev (512743) | about 9 years ago | (#12088739)

http://www.mpcfaculty.net/jill_zande/Explorer_scor es.pdf [mpcfaculty.net]

Interesting scores.

The MIT team gets 3rd lowest score on engineering, but the highest score on actually performing the competition tasks.

The illegal immigrants' team gets 2nd highest score on engineering and highest score on technical report.

How does a bunch of spanish speaking illegal immigrants write a better technical report than MIT students?
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"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
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