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314 comments

Deserve (0, Redundant)

Wizy (38347) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148281)

They are getting what they deserve and I hope the case does happen. They plainly stole PearPC and are trying to profit off of others hard work.

Re:Deserve (-1, Redundant)

Andorion (526481) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148310)

You are correct. End of story =)

Re:Deserve (0, Troll)

Robocoastie (777066) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148327)

umm that always happens with Open Source.

Re:Deserve (1)

Wizy (38347) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148373)

And this means what? That they dont deserve it?

Re:Deserve (2)

Kaamoss (872616) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148348)

I have to aggree, it's about time someone did something. There are countless websites compairing the two program's code. http://www.ht-technology.com/cherryos-pearpc/cherr yos-pearpc.html/ [ht-technology.com] [ht-technology] is one of the better comparisons. This can't go untreated, or the GPL will lose it's merit IMHO.

Re:Deserve (5, Insightful)

tomjen (839882) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148398)

While i think it is wrong, it must say:
It is not stealing/piracy/buzzword of the week. It is copyright infrigment.

Re:Deserve (1)

Wizy (38347) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148436)

Indeed, I stand corrected. But I figure that difference is only an argument of semantics. Seems pretty much the same thing (in this case) to me.

Re:Deserve (3, Insightful)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148491)

Yeah, I've seen this issue raised before, however, when I download a song I don't start a record company and try to sell it under my label.

Yes, both cases are copyright infringement, but I guess "it's worse" when you take code, repackage it, call it your own, deny you stole it, and try to sell it.

Re:Deserve (1)

airrage (514164) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148594)

No it's not worse ... it's the same thing ethically speaking. I will now remove the log from my own eye ...

Plagiarism (4, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148668)

[Copyright infringement that identifies the author and copyright infringement that does not identify the author are] the same thing ethically speaking.

Not necessarily. There's copyright infringement (violating a government-granted monopoly), and then there's plagiarism (not identifying the author). European "moral rights" make plagiarism an offence per se, while the United States handles plagiarism under the "passing off" provisions of trademark law and under 17 USC 1202 of copyright law.

Thank you thank you thank you (0, Troll)

Lifewish (724999) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148588)

I've been trying to get this habit of thought into people's heads for ages - glad to see it's not just me.

Now if only we can convince the **AA

Re:Deserve (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148412)

Stole? Don't you mean copyright infringed?
As I understand it, the original developers were not deprived of their source - thus nothing was acutally "stolen"?

Are you opposed to capitalism? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148495)

There's nothing wrong with selling what you didn't make. This isn't the USSR, this is the US of fuckin' A. The pivotal fact in this issue is that people were buying this anyways, therefore the market dictates that it has greater quality than the free version.

Just wanted to say thanks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148629)

Your TV I stole last night really fetched a nice price on ebay today.

Re:Deserve (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148644)

They plainly stole PearPC

They are plagiarists and they are copyright infringers. They are not thieves.

and are trying to profit off of others hard work.

So what? Redhat do that too. The profiting isn't important. The copyright infringement and plagiarism is.

Big surprise... feh (4, Insightful)

SoTuA (683507) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148296)

Maybe holding the release because a sold copy of CherryOS would give PearPC's lawyers ammo for bigger damages?

Re:Big surprise... feh (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148323)

I bet it's more along the lines of "We got caught with our pants down, again... quick, let's change more identifiable code slightly to evade them!"

By the way, what does this have to do with Apple? They're both PowerPC emulators, the fact that it will run OSX is incidental.

Re:Big surprise... feh (5, Informative)

NetNifty (796376) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148363)

" By the way, what does this have to do with Apple? They're both PowerPC emulators, the fact that it will run OSX is incidental."

Correct, however CherryOS specifically says on their web site that it is there in order to run OSX on x86 hardware. PearPC gives instructions on how to run OSX but doesn't really claim that it's whole purpose is to do so, which CherryOS does.

Re:Big surprise... feh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148435)

though this tech is so slow that its probablly not a bad thing for apple

people can use pearpc/cherryos to develop/test for osx but they are very unlikely to use it as thier main system.

Re:Big surprise... feh (2, Insightful)

shamowfski (808477) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148343)

Maybe it already has sold.... [betanews.com]

Re:Big surprise... feh (2, Interesting)

Bastian (66383) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148369)

Also interesting that they refused to make any sort of comment in the MacWorld article. I don't know the legal system well, but could this be a sign that they know they're in so deep that there's hardly a think they could say that couldn't be used against them in court?

Was there ever any doubt? (5, Insightful)

pwnage (856708) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148306)

So goes the latest twist in the CherryOS saga: the most probable end to clear OSS theft and a massive stint of publicity whoring.

Which reminds me, if your really want Mac OS, then just get the real thing.

Re:Was there ever any doubt? (1)

northcat (827059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148487)

Um, we want PowerPC (those who use PearPC) not Mac OS. If we wan't Mac OS we *should* get the real thing since there is no "Mac OS emulator" (AFAIK).

Re:Was there ever any doubt? (1)

lgw (121541) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148682)

I haven't been following this - can someone explain how CherryOS has gone wrong? I've bought previous products that were commercial wrappers around GPL products - for example a GUI front end to CVS - that had a closed proprietary piece and a GPL peice, distributed with the source for the GPL piece, of course. Of course, perhaps there was no linking between products in that case, just a command line used behind the scenes.

Couldn't CherryOS just add the source to the PearPC peices to their distro package? Or have they directy modified PearPC soruce to get what they want?

Wait for it... (5, Insightful)

M.C. Hampster (541262) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148721)


So goes the latest twist in the CherryOS saga: the most probable end to clear OSS theft and a massive stint of publicity whoring.

Waaa, waaa! It's not theft it's copyright infringement. Waaa, waaa!

wrong season (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148314)

the last i checked, cherry harvest begins in june

Re:wrong season (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148498)

I thought cherry harvest coincided with Spring Break, usually in a warm location with lots of alcohol. In which case, they're too late!

Why does everything take so damned long? (3, Insightful)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148318)

It's frustrating that everything takes so damn long... since it's trivial to show that CherryOS is a rip-off of PearPC, why does this guy still even have a home to sleep in? Justice is too damned slow.

too right (1)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148379)

Due process is a pile of horse shit.

We should firebomb the home of anyone suspected of violating a software license agreement the moment suspicion arises.

Re:too right (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148395)

You mean like all the righteous Linux users violating copyrights and software licenses by downloading movies, as well as using unlicensed DVD codecs?

Right.

Re:too right (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148421)

I believe the GP was being sarcastic. Here, I'll draw it out for you:

* ---- Joke

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-|- --- You
/\

Any questions?

Re:too right (5, Funny)

Karma Farmer (595141) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148725)

Why is there a litte star named "joke" so far above that little person's head?

Re:Why does everything take so damned long? (4, Insightful)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148381)

I read on the internet that the parent poster touches little kids. I read this on a blog several months ago. Why does the parent still even have a home to sleep in? Justice is too damned slow.

Re:Why does everything take so damned long? (4, Insightful)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148432)

I'm not talking about not having due process. I'm talking about having due process not take years. This isn't about something that's been done behind closed doors. This fuckbag is a commercial pirate hiding behind the thinnest veil. It's like he burned copies of an X-Men DVD and put a label on it calling it Y-People, and selling them as a product of his own.

Re:Why does everything take so damned long? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148562)

Like Mutant X?

Re:Why does everything take so damned long? (5, Funny)

mattkime (8466) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148410)

I was organizing an angry mob of gnu/linux hippies to burn his house but no one wanted to leave their parents basement. :(

You think? (5, Funny)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148338)

Without undermining due process, i think its pretty obvious that they are as guilty as a man with shit on his dick standing stark naked next to a goat.

Re:You think? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148440)

Wiping mental picture caused by parent

pass01...

pass02...

pass03...

pass04...

pass05...

pass06...

pass07...

Re:You think? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148482)

It's not working!!

Dammit....

pass12543...

Re:You think? (0, Offtopic)

Jedi Alec (258881) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148550)

ehmmm, ok, but in these here parts that actually ain't a crime :/

Re:You think? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148658)

Now why would you be checking out if something like that is legal or not?

Re:You think? (0, Offtopic)

WoBIX (819410) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148621)

"If the goat don't fit, you must acquit!" - Johnny Cochrane

Easy (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148342)

"release" the code in some obscure format in a place nobody would ever think to look in a way nobody notices.

nice and legal.

Re:Easy (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148587)

Like a lot of Linux distros are doing now?

Re:Easy (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148735)

So are you saying C/C++ are obscure? Er, did I miss something? Then again, maybe I shouldn't have even bothered replying to flamebait. (GNAA is troll, parent was an opinion)

Good! (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148356)

I'm glad I donated my $5 to PearPC. It's about all I can really afford, and I only use Apple's anyways, but people who put all that effort into source-code like PearPC (which is amazing, by the way), deserve some help when theiving bastards like CherryOS come along. Viva la Open Source!

Re:Good! (-1, Offtopic)

ntilde_cr (863793) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148605)

Donate to me! HelpMeGetAMac.org [helpmegetamac.org] and not to anyone else!

Why does this scam get so much coverage? (2, Insightful)

Eminence (225397) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148368)

Is it just because there are tonns of people who are dying to get OS X running on their PC, because for various resons (mainly financial) they can't or won't buy a Mac? And, aforementioned crowd is so hot about it that it would hang on lips of any snakeoil vendor promising them just that despite being an obvious fraud?

Isn't it rather obvious? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148468)

Is it just because there are tonns of people who are dying to get OS X running on their PC,

uh no. It gets a ton of press because they are accused of violating the terms of the GPL and so far there have been scarce legal challenges to the GPL. It's a story about OSS and the GPL and how/if these concepts stand up in a court of law (if it gets that far). There are also the obvious ethical implications within the developer community.

Nope! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148479)

Don't get in your "Apple is sooo cool and everybody wants to run OSX" frency just now.

While the coolness of OSX certainly played a part in the very initial coverage about cherry OS (as in, cool, it promises to let me run OSX on my box at acceptable speed), the main reason it gets so much coverage now, is that cherry OS is such a blatant and obvious rip off, of an open source project.
On top of that, this is one of the cases where the ripped off OS coders actually take legal action and strike back, which of course makes it all the more interesting to anyone interested in free software.

Re:Why does this scam get so much coverage? (4, Insightful)

NetNifty (796376) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148481)

Probably getting so much coverage because CherryOS made absurb claims first of all (IIRC they claimed G5 emulation at 100% speed, which IIRC due to the alvitec unit makes pretty much impossible), now is so blatently commiting copyright infringement on PearPC's code (IIRC the first clue came from a screenshot of CherryOS' boot screen displaying a line of nonsense text which the PearPC team put in, and binary comparisons on the demo have backed that up), while claiming that they wrote the whole thing and dismissing claims in an absurd way (claiming it was entirely a coinsidence that the text mentioned earlier was the same) and constantly changing their story (IIRC first they said one person did it, then they said a dev had been fired who used GPL code and the code removed, then denied all accusations of GPL code completely).

Basically it gets so much coverage because it's so unbelievable how stupid they are.

AHHHH... If I Recall Correctly... (3, Funny)

cbreaker (561297) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148731)

IIRC, you said IIRC four times in one paragraph. IIRC that's just too much, if IIRC from school. We don't need to know IIRC, because IIRW, someone will correct me, IIRC how Slashdot works.

Re:Why does this scam get so much coverage? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148527)

You're an idiot. Your blog sucks. And I just saw your mother putting out for a goat.

Re:Why does this scam get so much coverage? (2, Insightful)

Matilda the Hun (861460) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148647)

No, it gets so much coverage because this, being such an obvious violation of the GPL, is probably the first time that the aforementioned GPL is going to get a trial-by-fire in an actual court of law. Thousands of people who've written GPL-protected code are going to be waiting to see if what they've written is actually going to be defended in a US Court of Law in such an obvious case of steal-sell-profit. If it isn't, well then, we're all screwed.

Any other questions?

I have to laugh ... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148375)

Reactions to this story: "Yayyy! Those dirty bastards are going down!"
Reactions to Alternate Story: "Ugh! Typical! They're always trying to kill/steal/damage Linux! Linux did nothing wrong! LINUX ROX1!!!1"

The Alternate Story in question here is "Microsoft Windows code found in Linux kernel. Linux put on hold."

Silly Slashbots. :-)

Re:I have to laugh ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148426)

So, what color is the sky in your world, Bill?

Various conspiracy theories... (5, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148377)

  • They are planning to buy out PearPC, so that there is nobody left to sue them
  • CherryOS is being developed by the Amiga OS development team
  • Microsoft bought both, the Amiga AND the Vatican
  • Investors pulled out when they realised that Cherry is a really pathetic name - and I'm pretty sure it's already trademarked for some other computer equiptment
  • Both operating systems, all companies involved and the entire case was fabricated by the same UK journalist who invented "toothing"


"Cherry" and "pulled out" in same sentence (3, Funny)

KingFatty (770719) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148477)

Heheh, you used "cherry" and "pulled out" in the same sentence. You dirty, dirty bird.

Re:Various conspiracy theories... (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148483)

Here's a conspiracy theory for you:

Maui software actually was "inspired" by PearPC and hired a Pakistani company to create a similar product. The Pakistani company secretly stole PearPC to deliver the product on time (partly because they had no idea what they were doing) and then Maui compounded the issue by covering the fact that they'd used an overseas company. (They didn't want to drive customers away by admitting that.) So now Maui has a hot (as in stolen) product on their hands, and is trying like hell to get rid of it.

How's that for a conspiracy theory? Considering everything we know, quite plausable too.

Re:Various conspiracy theories... (2, Interesting)

plimsoll (247070) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148590)

| Investors pulled out when they realised that
| Cherry is a really pathetic name - and I'm pretty
| sure it's already trademarked for some other
| computer equiptment [sic]

Yeah, no kidding. Smells like another Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox to me. For instance:

Cherry Corporation [cherrycorp.com]
Point-of-Sale, Automotive
Cherry Semiconductor [cherry-semi.com]
Discrete IC's (now owned by ON Semiconductor [onsemi.com] )

Maybe they are getting out of the whole crowded fruit-based naming convention, and thus, avoid the obligatory Pac-Man jokes that plague these stories each time they're reported here.

Re:Various conspiracy theories... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148599)

Investors pulled out when they realised that Cherry is a really pathetic name - and I'm pretty sure it's already trademarked for some other computer equiptment

It may not be computer equipment but... [discreetsexpress.com]

Too bad (3, Funny)

Stick_Fig (740331) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148382)

Guess they're like a hot virgin at a Star Trek convention, too afraid of a bunch of nerds popping their Cherry.

Re:Too bad (2, Insightful)

Stick_Fig (740331) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148645)

I make a funny joke about popping a cherry, and it gets modded down as flamebait. Such is life. Whenever I call someone a nerd on /., it's meant lovingly.

To not take this post off-topic, it's terrible that the CherryOS is getting so much attention. PearPC is a great project, and the damage that CherryOS has done to the PearPC project is almost irreversible.

In the page source.... (5, Interesting)

Flaming_cows (798162) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148386)

There is a date in the page source (which doesn't conform to the stated HTML 4.01 Transitional doctype along with other random attributes given to various elements, by the way):
<st1:date Month="11" Day="25" Year="2004">
I wonder what it's there for, as it is nowhere near accurate.

MOD PARENT UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148556)

Nice trick by cherryos. Trying to implant "proof" that they put cherryos on "hold" at an earlier date than it actually happenned.

Of course its on hold! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148393)

... They are waiting for PearPC to finish up all of the CherryOS promised features first!

Re:Of course its on hold! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148460)

Of course it is on hold, they are being slashdotted !

Re:Of course its on hold! (4, Interesting)

iCEBaLM (34905) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148474)

This is actually quite true. There are non-public and unreleased patches for pearpc which include features for sound, etc. They are unreleased because of the potential for CherryOS to steal them and will continue to be private until such time as the CherryOS threat is negated.

Re:Of course its on hold! (1)

TravisWatkins (746905) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148543)

Not true at all. There was a publically available patch for sound but it was horrible. Some have talked about starting work on it again but not much has happened with PearPC lately, period. It's only started looking like an active project again in the last few weeks.

Re:Of course its on hold! (1)

iCEBaLM (34905) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148626)

The patches are unreleased and private, which is why you don't know about them.

Don't speak about things you don't know about.

Cherry O's (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148396)

In other news
Cherry OS has decided to restructure and rename their company/product, in response to a possible lawsuit.

Their new name is no Cherry O's, and they well now be selling breakfast cereal.

Later that day Kellogg's has announced they are seeking to sue Cherry O's claiming that the company "Just slapped a sticker on our boxes of Apple Jacks"

A Cherry O's spokesman was quoted in saying "I don't know what the problem is, we both use the cereal language."

Re:Cherry O's (1)

rhendershot (46429) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148730)

at the risk of a karma hit... mod parent up. that is FUNNY. IMO.

Hope this goes to court (2, Insightful)

rve (4436) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148400)

It would be an interesting test case to see if the GPL can hold up in court. My guess is that it wouldn't in the real world (money vs. no-money), but the evidence seems to be pretty hard to sweep aside in this particular case.

Re:Hope this goes to court (4, Insightful)

phoenix.bam! (642635) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148449)

The nice thing about the GPL not holding up in court is that all code released under the GPL will not become part of the public domain. Therefore any company trying to profit from GPL code cannot claim the GPL is invalid and use the code. The GPL is the only thing that makes the code legal to distribute.

Re:Hope this goes to court (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148528)

Ehm, even if this case doesn't go to court, but cherry os complies with the GPL, wouldn't it be a strong indication, that the GPL is valid?

And though a lot of people still seem to think it, the GPL never having been tested in court doesn't show that it is invalid, on the contrary, there have been quite a few cases where companies didn't adhere to the GPL and then gave in when confronted.

They surely wouldn't have done that, had their lawyers thought the GPL wasn't valid.

Re:Hope this goes to court (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148613)

> Ehm, even if this case doesn't go to court, but cherry os complies with the GPL, wouldn't it be a strong indication, that the GPL is valid?

Not really. It's pretty clear copyright plagarism, regardless of the license. Probably a fair number of misleading claims to throw in, if not outright misrepresentation as well. The terms of the license don't even need to enter in to it, except to compound the charges, but even BSD-licensed code could make that claim. You just can't claim other peoples work as your own.

Re:Hope this goes to court (1)

Dhalka226 (559740) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148636)

Ehm, even if this case doesn't go to court, but cherry os complies with the GPL, wouldn't it be a strong indication, that the GPL is valid?

Logically? Yes. Legally? No. Legally, all it means is that they either think it is valid (as you state later) or think it a cheaper solution to simply adhere than fight a court battle even if they are likely to prevail in that fight.

That is why people want the GPL to actually go to court. Once a decision is issued about it in a court case, there is a binding legal precedent.

That said, however, aside from not being tested I'm not sure why anybody would think that the GPL would not stand up in court. If I require people to fly over here, meet me and do a gymnastics routine before using my code, so what? It's not likely to be done, but then they can just find some code with a less restrictive license if they are unhappy.

Re:Hope this goes to court (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148713)

In regards to copyright infringement, I don't think it matters whether or not the GPL is valid - if it's valid, they've violated it and they lose. If it's invalid then they don't have rights to the code anyway so they lose. IANAL but only thing they can defend themselves with is that the so-called "viral" (leaving code open etc) sections of the GPL are invalid but the license allowing them to distribute the code is valid, but like I said IANAL so don't know how that would work at all (is a license still valid if a part of it is invalid?).

However, if the GPL is found completely invalid, then presumably company "X" which has released code under the GPL could sue people using their code as with the GPL invalid would mean that they are guilty of copyright infringement, as they don't have a valid license to distribute the code.

Copyright more relevant than the GPL (1)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148653)

In this instance, I think copyright violation would take precedence over the GPL, and since it's a clear violation of copyright... that the GPL aspect of things wouldn't even come into play in court.

Off-topic curiosity... (1)

aztektum (170569) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148427)

And since we know CherryOS is crap, I thought I'd ask a question related to emulation as a whole. I'm not very "up" on PearPC or OS emulation at all...

At some stage would it be possible to run OS X through a Linux back end w/o having X or a Linux DE running at all?

What I'm saying is, could it evolve to where you boot right into OSX? Or does it have to run in a window (like the screenshots show)?

Re:Off-topic curiosity... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148450)

Yeah - I think there is an SDL layer for PearPC..and performance in latest CVS isn't that bad.

Re:Off-topic curiosity... (1)

springbox (853816) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148552)

It's an emulator much like QEMU is. PearPC emulates a PowerPC based machine including the processor and some of the important hardware.

There's no way to boot into another operating system from Linux like you are suggesting unless you play around with the kernel's source. And even so, if you don't want a virtual environment to play in, why not just go for the real thing?

So yes, you're "stuck" with having to run the application in X and emulating it on the host system.

Re:Off-topic curiosity... (1)

mlk (18543) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148669)

You could build a very small linux/X install (from memory the core OS + X is way under 50 Meg, and its boot time would be almost instant on modern hardware. Then have a full screen PearPC as your next line in your X config file.

However, in order to get reasonable spead, expect to pay a small fortune for a machine, thus negating the point of using it.

Re:Off-topic curiosity... (1)

adiposity (684943) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148702)

softpear [softpear.org]

why under an APPLE group/heading (3, Insightful)

pbjones (315127) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148453)

Why is this under a an APPLE heading? It's Window/Linux/Know your rights/GPL.

The issue in NOT with the emulation of a PPC systems that can run LINUX too, it is an issue about theft!

Re:why under an APPLE group/heading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148602)

welllllllllllll.... PearPC runs on G4/5 Apples too, you know....

Re:why under an APPLE group/heading (1)

Thijs van As (826224) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148665)

Why under an Apple heading?
CherryOS claims to be an OS X emulator for the PC platform.

Re:why under an APPLE group/heading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148700)

Don't you mean copyright infringement?

Mod up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148722)

PearPC is a POWERPC emulator, as opposed to a Mac OS (Apple) emulator. This is an important distinction: the Mac OS X license prohibits its installation on non-Apple hardware.

That said, this is akin to putting news about Kazaa under a "piracy" header: everyone knows that's all it's useful for in the real world.

Potentially pending? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148464)

Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?

Why do we care? (4, Insightful)

Jozer99 (693146) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148471)

Why does everyone still care? It became incredibly obvious about 2 weeks after the first beta came out that it was simply an alternative GUI for PearPC. Knowing that, people should have stopped paying attention to it except for noting that it is another instance of someone abusing open source code and EULAs. You don't think that they would/could ever release a full version of their product, sell it for money, and live up to the performace claims?

COCKS (1)

hardcorebuttsecks (871562) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148545)

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Can anyone help? (5, Funny)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148558)

I'm trying to run the mac port of Doom3 on OS 10.3.8 under CherryOS running on Virtual PC on OS 9.2.1 running on Pear PC using OS X 10.2.4 under Guest PC running BeOS on my G3 Beige Mac.

All I'm getting is a black screen. Is there something wrong, or am I playing the game already?

Re:Can anyone help? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148633)

on my G3 Beige Mac.
BS! Everyone knows Macs aren't beige!

Re:Can anyone help? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148643)

Leave a white one in sunlight long enough and it will be.

Legitimate question: what's the opposing argument? (2, Interesting)

Dejohn (164452) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148568)

There are two sides to every story. It's clear that the Slashdot crows believes the publisher of CherryOS should burn in hell, but what is his story/argument? Surely he didn't think that he could get away with a clear violation of the GPL, claim all ownership and intellectual property of CherryOS, sell it, make millions, and not get anyone suspicious. Is he thinking that he's doing an allowable fork and then selling some slightly modified version with support or something?

Please kill this story. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148666)

Does anyone care? I mean, honestly, does ANYONE care about this story? It's clearly, totally, completely, utterly, absolutely a scam we're talking about.

There is absolutely no technical angle to this story, and there are thousands of equally uninteresting scams being perpetrated every day.

How is this news? And I don't mean "CHERRYOS IS FAKE OMG I HOPE THEY GET BUSTED". This barely qualifies as IRC chat.

Cherry OS Press Contact (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12148688)

From a former press release: Jim Kartes, 866-661-5699 jim@vx30.com From VX30.com [vx30.com] : Maui X-Stream, Inc. 1068 Limahana Pl Suite #5 Lahaina Hi, USA 96761 Phone: 1 (808) 661-5699 Fax: 1 (808) 667-7002

what it might be... (2, Interesting)

rogabean (741411) | more than 9 years ago | (#12148706)

1. They realize now they are not going to get away with it.
or
2. They still think they can, but they need more time to hide code. Obviously they didn't do a good enough job. LOL
or
3. Lawyers scared them.

Then again I don't know. I've refocused myself on PearPC and helping with it. I could care less anymore what these monkeys do anymore. Let the lawyers sort this one out.
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