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10.4 on Display at FOSE

timothy posted about 9 years ago | from the slickery dept.

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CmdrStone writes "Just thought I'd post to let people know that while at FOSE today in the Washington, D.C. Convention center I lingered at the Apple pavilion / booth. To my surprise every machine had 10.4 running. The build number matches the build number found on the rumor sites; 8A428. Does this presage Tiger hitting the shelves soon? Personally, my main interest was how much iSync was expanded to support more devices, phones, etc. The Apple rep confirmed that the number of devices has expanded. He lamented that his Symbian phone, the Nokia 9500 Communicator, still was not included in the supported phones. He did tell me that he was able to tether his Powerbook and get online via his 9500's T-Mobile connection."

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Well... (3, Insightful)

thundercatslair (809424) | about 9 years ago | (#12149519)

It did go gold about a week ago, so yes you should see it on store shelves soon.

This is Not News(tm) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149568)

OMFG!!! Someone saw Mac OSX running on Apple hardware!!! OMFG I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149794)

It did go gold about a week ago

Yeah, and I believe everything the rumor sites say. They have an excellent track record.

</sarcasm>

Re:Well... (0, Flamebait)

NineNine (235196) | about 9 years ago | (#12150320)

...And doesn't anybody see the fact that Apple is releasign new OS's every 6 months-year as a problem? Jesus, if MS did that, we'd have 1000+ posts about how MS is evil and just after money. I don't know of any other software company that releases full versions so often. Seems that Apple is gouging their customers pretty good, and their customers like it. Personally, I don't get it.

Re:Well... (0, Troll)

Kraeloc (869412) | about 9 years ago | (#12150411)

They're not entirely new OSes, they're just 00.x updates. Comparable to a Windows service pack. And 00.0.x updates are comparable to major MS security updates.

Re:Well... (4, Insightful)

kcslash (796856) | about 9 years ago | (#12150486)

Been 18 months since Panther was released. Maybe in Longhorn months that would be 6 months.

Torrent, anybody? (4, Funny)

dirkdidit (550955) | about 9 years ago | (#12149521)

Anybody manage to make off with a hard drive from one of those Macs, image it and make a .torrent of it?

Re:Torrent, anybody? (4, Informative)

binder520 (767223) | about 9 years ago | (#12149564)

This article [macnet2.com] points out that most of the Torrent sites are shying away from hosting a copy of Tiger in fear of lawsuits from Apple.

Re:Torrent, anybody? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149645)

some sites such as macpirate.org are hosting a 8A425 torrent, which strikes me as a risky proposition

but you really should pre-order at amazon for $95 after rebate instead. that's $35 off. i'd prefer to wait for the final pressed cd

ac

Re:Torrent, anybody? (1)

GizmoToy (450886) | about 9 years ago | (#12150331)

Well, 8A425 isn't even the GM release, so it might not be as risky as hosting, say, 8A428.

Re:Torrent, anybody? (1)

rsmith-mac (639075) | about 9 years ago | (#12150480)

Risk, what risk? What the hell is Apple going to do that the MPAA, RIAA, and BSA haven't already tried to do?

Re:Torrent, anybody? (2, Insightful)

macslut (724441) | about 9 years ago | (#12150566)

"Well, 8A425 isn't even the GM release, so it might not be as risky as hosting, say, 8A428." IANAL but, I think that's just the opposite way of thinking. Apple can go after who leaked 8A425 because someone violated an NDA/Developer contract. In doing so they can get the log files and see who downloaded it. With the GM release they would just be going after the "pirates". In the past, they've never chased after "pirates", but they have successfully gone after the person(s?) that leaked a pre-release and got access to the logs showing who downloaded it. Either way of course it's a risk, and people are far more nervous about torrenting Apple software than they were before. Me? $95 on Amazon...is TOTALLY worth it!

Torrent Roar! (2, Funny)

Altima(BoB) (602987) | about 9 years ago | (#12149585)

Bah, who needs a torrent?? What this report is missing is the big-cat codename. What could it be? Puma's been done (back in beta) so no Red vs Blue jokes there... Lynx probably won't happen. Perhaps 10.4 Ocelot could glean some Metal Gear Solid humor but it's a bit too niche, even for Slashdot ("Damn!") plus not very catchy, it being more than two syllables.

Ultimately they'll probably go for Leopard or Cheetah, the former offers Jaguar's pimp visual stylings to the (quartz) extreme while the latter would seem to indicate... uhh... Well that one stumped me.

But were I given my choice, I'd probably go for Lyger, the illegitimate bastard child of two different species, unable to further propagate itself, but still something you don't want to get angry.

To any who might think this is flamebait, Nah, I've been using Macs since I was 2. Bring on the jokes.

Lame reply to own post (1)

Altima(BoB) (602987) | about 9 years ago | (#12149612)

Gee, and here I was mixing up Tiger with 10.3... Ugh I feel SO stupid. Please feel free to transplant my post to the future, when identical speculation on OS X 10.5 arises...

I need a drink.

Re:Lame reply to own post (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149817)

Let me pummel your tiny ego some more. You got lots of stuff wrong:

- Cheetah has already been used: 10.0.
- Puma was not a beta: 10.1.

I hear Panther is still available, though...

Re:Lame reply to own post (1)

buckhead_buddy (186384) | about 9 years ago | (#12150080)

Supposedly, the codenames of 10.0 (Cheetah) and 10.1 (Puma) were internally decided upon by the OS team. Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger have had some influence by marketing once the big-cat theme was embraced by the public to distinguish the releases.

Apple will probably stick with the big cat names but if they start to get repetitive they'll probably move on to another carnivorous predator name as long as Microsoft continues with the delicious herbivore name for their next OS. What might be some ideas?

  • Lion - new networking and chat features, easy to integrate into cluster, regal and beautiful.
  • Sabertooth - promotes backward compatability (updated Classic? Apple // or Newton layers?)
  • Tabby - heavy user interface refinements (Tablet input, dock redesign, aqua theme change)
  • Wolverine - heavy windows compatability and ideas that seem blatantly lifted from Microsoft (wolverine = carnivorous weasel known for habits of stealing food. Popular X-men member and football mascot, but not a cat.)

Wolverine is a Linux distro (2, Informative)

mamladm (867366) | about 9 years ago | (#12150225)

Wolverine is already in use for an embedded Linux distro customised for Firewall and VPN server use.

http://www.coyotelinux.com/products.php?Product=wo lverine [coyotelinux.com]

Apple would not be able to use Wolverine for any software product unless they buy out Vortech who have a common law trademark on the name, etablished by many years of marketing their Firewall/VPN Linux distro.

Re:Lame reply to own post (1)

Anarchitect_in_oz (771448) | about 9 years ago | (#12150493)

Lets not forget.

Moggy -the media edition or embeded systems , after they buy out TiVo and release a set top box. No doudt it will have a really quiet fan control system that means the fans sound like purring when it gets to warm, and they kick into high gear.

Re:Torrent Roar! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149804)

10.0 was codenamed Cheetah

Re:Torrent Roar! (5, Funny)

fuct_onion (870134) | about 9 years ago | (#12150096)

++ vote for 'Liger'!...

Deb: "What are you drawing?"
Napoleon: "A Liger"
Deb: "What's a Liger?"
Napoleon: "It's probably my favorite animal. It's a cross between a lion and tiger. It's bred for its skills in magic."

Re:Torrent Roar! (1)

PedanticSpellingTrol (746300) | about 9 years ago | (#12150127)

Goddammit, why can't slashdot pull together and condemn that piece of shit movie for the geek bashing tripe that it is? It contains no plot or character development whatsoever (and even 2Fast2Furious managed to pull that off).

I might be interested... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149523)

... but I don't think anyone gives a crap about Apple.

Re:I might be interested... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149551)

agreed.. This is me, not caring

Any Comment on Release Date (-1, Redundant)

binder520 (767223) | about 9 years ago | (#12149531)

Did the Apple Rep. comment on the release date? Did he confirm that version was the release version?

Re:Any Comment on Release Date (4, Informative)

CmdrStone (717243) | about 9 years ago | (#12149726)

The rep is the one that showed me the build number. In the classic, wink - wink, nudge - nudge, say no more - say no more, type fashion.

He was standing beside me when I clicked on the "About this Mac" option which showed the 10.4. I said out loud, "Cool it has Tiger!" He then took the mouse and did something to have the About This Mac box show the build number.

I'm sure someone out there knows how to show the build number with / instead of the version number. I don't remember if the version number was displaying at the same time as the build number after the rep. I just distinctly remember the build number and the big smile on his face.

Re:Any Comment on Release Date (4, Informative)

clarkcox3 (194009) | about 9 years ago | (#12149782)

I'm sure someone out there knows how to show the build number with / instead of the version number. I don't remember if the version number was displaying at the same time as the build number after the rep. I just distinctly remember the build number and the big smile on his face.

Just click on the version number in the About box, and it will switch to the build number; click again, and it'll display the serial number.

Re:Any Comment on Release Date (1)

CoolMoDee (683437) | about 9 years ago | (#12149905)

click on the release text. It first shows the build number, then your machine's serial number. Quite handy when calling apple so you don't have to bend around the machine / lift the keyboard etc.

Tiger (4, Funny)

hunterx11 (778171) | about 9 years ago | (#12149533)

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright In the forests of the night. What immortal hand or eye Could frame thy fearful final build?

Re:Tiger (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149748)

I actually thought to myself the other day, "Hmm, I oughta sit down and write a parody of that poem now, so I can post it when Tiger drops..."

Oh well, too late now.

Okay I'm dumb-- what's the original? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150533)

TAI.

Well... (3, Interesting)

EvilStein (414640) | about 9 years ago | (#12149540)

The "rumour sites" have been saying that the recent build was going to be the GM... aaaaaand... WWDC *is* coming up. (June 6-10) AND Steve Jobs did say something about it being ready during the first half of 2005.

Coincidence? Maybe. :P Someone jumping the gun a bit and showing off 10.4 when they're probably not supposed to? Likely. ;)

Re:Well... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149761)

People at apple being as stupid as their users and not knowing what version is even installed on the machines? More likely.

Re:Well... (3, Interesting)

CmdrStone (717243) | about 9 years ago | (#12149762)

Actually, every rep I spoke with, freely answered questions, except for the release date. The openly stated that all the computers they had on display were running 10.4. It occurs to me now the I did not as specifically if that included the XServes they had on display.

No, jumping the gun, very UNLIKELY (2, Informative)

CatOne (655161) | about 9 years ago | (#12149876)

Apple images ALL the demo machines, and puts very SPECIFIC builds on them. If a machine is plugged into to the Union's power strip on the floor, you can rest assured that it was APPROVED to be shown on the floor.

I'm so cool...I've seen a Tiger... (-1, Flamebait)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | about 9 years ago | (#12149545)

But do I have any actual news to report...NO! Please, Slashdot editors, do some work, check to see if the submitted story actually has any content. (No offence intended to the author who I'm sure was very excited and obviously knows what type of story his editors will pick.)

connect via 9500's T-Mobile connection? (3, Funny)

sulli (195030) | about 9 years ago | (#12149548)

Let's hope he doesn't keep his contact list and amateur pr0n synced à la Paris Hilton.

FOSE is kind of like the GTC (4, Informative)

EvilStein (414640) | about 9 years ago | (#12149558)

GTC = Government Technology Conference, held around this time in Sacramento, CA.

Chances are, they're showcasing 10.4 to Government buyers. This is not uncommon, actually. I saw the iMac at the GTC expo months before the unit was available to the public. At that time, it was 1 of only 7 completed iMacs - Apple was more than happy to showcase it to the Government & Educational buyers.

Heck, Apple was showing 10.4 at booths at Macworld - why not? "Look what you can look forward to!" ;)

Re:FOSE is kind of like the GTC (1)

binder520 (767223) | about 9 years ago | (#12149577)

I am surprised you saw the iMac before it was announced to the public.

Re:FOSE is kind of like the GTC (1)

EvilStein (414640) | about 9 years ago | (#12149657)

I said before it was *available* to the public. They were demonstrating it to a Government audience.

Then again, I did work at Apple at the time, so I saw quite a few things that weren't announced yet. :)

Tiger timeline and iSync supported devices (4, Informative)

standards (461431) | about 9 years ago | (#12149582)

It isn't a surprise that Apple is now touting 10.4 (aka "Tiger") at the trade shows. It is very close to release - and although it has rumored to have "gone gold", its availability is still rumored to be several weeks away.

In terms of iSync, it has been rumored that it will be upgraded to support more devices, but the precise list has not been made available. Hopefully device manufacturers are smart enough to get their (favored) phones represented in the list of devices they sell... but clearly, some manufacturers are sunsetting a bunch of devices - and so the financial advantage of iSync support for end-of-life products is dubious.

Re:Tiger timeline and iSync supported devices (2, Informative)

As Seen On TV (857673) | about 9 years ago | (#12150312)

It's not "10.4 (aka 'Tiger')." Tiger isn't a nickname or a code name. The actual name of the product is "Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger."

It's a branding thing. People respond more and more quickly to names than they do to numbers.

Thus ends my utterly irrelevant trivia post for the day.

I was at FOSE too.... (4, Informative)

CajunArson (465943) | about 9 years ago | (#12149590)

And Tiger was on display. Although the Apple guys were tight lipped about whether it was official or not (don't fire anyone Steve they didn't spill the beans!)
Even more interesting from my perspective was that from the talks I had with them, their server line and the X-raid stuff is starting to garner a lot more interest in government areas that were previously closed to anything related to Apple. I'd seen their stuff online, but once you get to see it first-hand and see the prices it's difficult to see why this stuff is so freakin' cool.

Re:I was at FOSE too.... (4, Funny)

CajunArson (465943) | about 9 years ago | (#12149605)

AAAGGGH!!! Ok... last line....
it's not difficult to see why this stuff is so freakin' cool

Long day walking the floor at FOSE

Re:I was at FOSE too.... (2)

Hitchcock_Blonde (717330) | about 9 years ago | (#12149722)

I was there, too. It was the largest Apple booth that I can recall ever seeing at FOSE (this is my 12th show). Tiger looks fantastic. Dashboard blew me away. Awesome. Can't wait for Tiger to hit the shelves.

Re:I was at FOSE too.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150233)

Yes, fantastic: mostly technology copied from other companies and bundled into the OS. Give them that: Apple is consistent--that's the way the company was built.

List of devices that will work with iSync? (3, Interesting)

SteelV (839704) | about 9 years ago | (#12149604)

I want to get a power book as soon as tiger comes out on them (probably not for a few months, regardless). Is there some way to find out what devices are supported, so I can make sure to get a cellphone that is? Also, if i got a cell phone with a 128 meg card like this one (motorola E398 [myworldphone.com] ), will I be able to back up many of my text documents (as in almost all of them, up to the storage capacity) using iSync to the phone, or just contact info?

Thanks.

Re:List of devices that will work with iSync? (5, Informative)

Psychic Burrito (611532) | about 9 years ago | (#12149793)

List of compatible iSync devices [apple.com] . Currently addresses version 10.3, but wait until 10.4 is out and the list will prolly be updated immeditately.

Cheers!

Re:List of devices that will work with iSync? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150134)

the list will prolly be updated immeditately.

Prolly: What the hell is this? You see this everywhere on the internet, often in forums or chatrooms, used by people who are to lazy to type the "bab" in "probably" so just slap an extra "l" in there instead. Does anyone actually say this in person? If anyone said to me "I could prolly eat a Cessna light aircraft", I'd kick him in the nuts. Twice. Once for saying a stupid fucking nonexistent word, and twice for being a glutton. The word is PROBABLY. Is it really that hard to spell?

http://murkydepth.blogspot.com/2004_04_01_murkydep th_archive.html [blogspot.com]

Re:List of devices that will work with iSync? (1)

otis wildflower (4889) | about 9 years ago | (#12150264)

Lots of the MOT stuff currently will work with iSync if you buy software from mark/space (as indicated on Apple's isync compatibility charts). Dunno bout Tiger, though I've got a P800 which is already supported quite nicely ;)

Sharing internet to Bluetooth still does not work (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149624)

Apparently, Tiger still can't share [osnews.com] its internet connection to Bluetooth devices though. This is so bad for us with PDAs. :(

You can share your Bluetooth connection *to* wifi/eth0, but you can't share your wifi/modem/eth0 *to* Bluetooth devices. And all the third party hacks are just not reliable.

Apparently Linux can do it [osnews.com] reliably.

Re:Sharing internet to Bluetooth still does not wo (1)

hunterx11 (778171) | about 9 years ago | (#12149952)

You can setup a PPP server, though, and connect through that with most PDAs.

Re:Sharing internet to Bluetooth still does not wo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149981)

1. This is not wireless. If I had to do that via a usb/serial cable, I would just do it via MissingSync which does it automatically (at least for Palms/PocketPCs).
2. This is not Bluetooth to begin with. I like the freedom of moving around and still have a connected device.
3. I would never touch the command line and pppd on OSX for a feature that it should have been there in the first place in the pref panels.

The beauty of OS X (1)

AnEmbodiedMind (612071) | about 9 years ago | (#12150265)

3. I would never touch the command line and pppd on OSX for a feature that it should have been there in the first place in the pref panels.

That seems pretty weird to me. Isn't that half the beauty of OS X? You can use the standard UNIX command-line tools to customise the system in ways the apple designers didn't envision? Otherwise you may as well run XP.

You can always write your own PrefsPane (1)

mamladm (867366) | about 9 years ago | (#12150618)

"...a feature that it should have been there in the first place in the pref panels."

With all due respect, that is patent nonsense. Apple will have had a reason why they didn't make this built-in feature available in their preference pane. Perhaps there was a bug in their pane code that didn't get fixed in time and was thus removed, perhaps something else. In any event, the feature of routing packets between any given network interfaces is built-in to OSX.

There are tons of built-in features for which there are no preference panes and which are thus only accessible on the command line. In such a situation, you can always write your own preference pane to enable and disable those features.

Apple's developer documentation shows you how to write your own preference panes ...

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExper ience/Conceptual/PreferencePanes/Tasks/Creation.ht ml [apple.com]

Apple has even included a template in Xcode for creating preference panes to make this as easy as possible. They certainly wouldn't be doing this if non-Apple preference panes were discouraged.

The only convention on Apple vs. 3rd party preference panes is that Apple supplied panes live in /System/Library and third party panes live in /Library.

Besides, Apple are doing these things in exactly the same way. They use the built-in features of the BSD subsystem where available and write a preference pane to enable and configure those features which are already there.

OS X Liger (4, Funny)

Absentminded-Artist (560582) | about 9 years ago | (#12149641)

Rumor Site: What the next OS you're releasing? Apple: OS X Liger. Rumor Site: What's a liger? Apple: It's pretty much our favorite OS. It's like Panther and Tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic. Rumor Site: Oooooh

Re:OS X Liger (0)

Artega VH (739847) | about 9 years ago | (#12149742)

Actually a liger [sierrasafarizoo.com] is the result of the mating between a tiger and a lion. It actually exists and sadly doesn't display any magical properties. It is also the largest of all cats so thats gotta be pretty cool..

Foose Design (1)

green pizza (159161) | about 9 years ago | (#12149685)

Mac OS X?

I always thought Chip was a Linux user?

Re:Foose Design (1)

sweetaction (649666) | about 9 years ago | (#12150044)

ugh................ you decroted piece of crap!

its KIP.

yesss... i love technology... not as much as i love you... yesss... i love technology... always and forever.... alwayss (choke) and forever...

FACT! (2, Funny)

derniers (792431) | about 9 years ago | (#12149691)

FACT! Ligers actually exist (despite their whimsical use in Napoleon Dynamite): http://www.tigers-animal-actors.com/about/liger/li ger.html [tigers-animal-actors.com] FWIW: I'm also waiting on the release of 10.4 before ordering a powerbook

Re:FACT! (1, Interesting)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | about 9 years ago | (#12149921)

I know this is offtopic but I just wanted to second the motion that Ligers exist. The filmmakers (incl. writers and some of the main actors) of Napolean Dynamite went to BYU, where I am currently attending. Our natural science museum here on campus has a stuffed liger "Shasta". This liger used reside at Hogle Zoo (in SLC) before she died. Anyway, she is a bit of a cult classic animal (if there is such a thing) around here, which is why the term "liger" made it into Napolean Dynamite. Just my useless factoid for the day.

10.4 will be out within 10 days... (2, Interesting)

doormat (63648) | about 9 years ago | (#12149693)

Because Apple is introducing new versions of lots of software at NAB for video editing and whatnot (shake, etc). NAB starts next tuesday.

Re:10.4 will be out within 10 days... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150392)

A Tuesday? Hah! That will be the day we see the tigger released.

What I would like to see in iSync (5, Interesting)

RatBastard (949) | about 9 years ago | (#12149711)

You know what I'd like to see supported with iSync? Plain old USB thumb/jump/key/etc... drives.

Re:What I would like to see in iSync (3, Interesting)

As Seen On TV (857673) | about 9 years ago | (#12150470)

That's a good idea. You're basically asking for sync-to-file. You should submit it as a feature request. I'll check Radar in a couple of days (making myself an iCal to-do as we speak) and if it's not in there, I'll add it myself.

Acronyms by osmosis? (5, Informative)

michaeldot (751590) | about 9 years ago | (#12149763)

How are people supposed to "just know" the acronyms that pop up?

I didn't have a clue what FOSE stood for. I clicked the link to its home page, and not once is it defined there.

A quick Google search fixed this (FOSE - Federal Office Systems Exposition) but really: are things like this so commonly known that they don't need to be defined?

Re:Acronyms by osmosis? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149839)

Actually, FOSE isn't an acronym anymore; it doesn't stand for anything. It used to stand for "Federal Office Systems Exposition" but now FOSE is its official name. (Source: Washington Post [washingtonpost.com] , April 4.)

wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150544)

"At FOSE, which once stood for Federal Office Systems Expo but is now its formal name..."

It's still the name, it just doesn't fit what goes on there very well now.

Re:Acronyms by osmosis? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150083)

you must be new here

Re:Acronyms by osmosis? (1)

sunhou (238795) | about 9 years ago | (#12150142)

Agreed. I really hate it when I receive a conference announcement, and after reading it, have absolutely no idea what the conference is about. In those cases, I'd think the people publicizing the conference would want people to know just what is being advertised. This is a little different, being a story about the conference rather than an announcement trying to attract people to it, but it's still the same problem...

What's the Hold Up? (5, Informative)

buckhead_buddy (186384) | about 9 years ago | (#12149798)

If Apple's internal teams have gone final (and that's a big IF) it's not uncommon for a release to still be waiting on:
  • notification of changes in code licensed from a vendor or third-party
  • a multiple week soak time after the code freeze to discover bugs (eat your own dog food for a while)
  • exhaustive documentation of the final changes (both to users and developers)
Even if all of this has been finalized as the rumors indicate, there are still other reasons why a release would be delayed after going final, including:
  • Finding the best marketing opportunity to make the introduction (which I know little of).
  • Ensuring that one's unfinished hardware has only expected problems and incompatabilities (if any at all).
  • Letting the application teams (Final Cut, iWork, iLife, etc) get their work fully compliant before release (the market does have higher expectations for Apple authored apps).

While the Mac rumor sites have been speculating on an early release of Tiger since it was announced last June, I don't think that their rumor-mongering does anything to speed up its release and quite possibly:

  • delays distribution of the gold master to developers.
  • delays the public announcement until Apple is seen as the one setting the expectations rather than the rumor sites.
  • makes open discussion of releases beyond Tiger even more secretive.
Personally, I'm still running Panther. I've got a backup plan, blank media, and a time estimate of about 3 days downtime needed to transition to Tiger and test my setup once it comes out. Beyond that, I've made no plans that depend on an unreleased or rumored feature. I'm anxious for that release date to get here, but I'm prepared as well as I can whether that date is tomorrow or June 30th.

Re:What's the Hold Up? (1)

As Seen On TV (857673) | about 9 years ago | (#12150434)

A suggestion: Buy a second hard drive. Make it exactly the same as your main hard drive, if possible, or if not, make it bigger. Then buy a little program called Super Duper which exists solely for the purpose of creating incremental clones of your system disk. Run it every day or so.

That way you always have a working backup drive.

So OS updates are easy. Just blast one of the two drives and install the new release on it. Copy files from the old backup drive as necessary. Worst case, just reboot from the old disk.

And yes, to answer the unasked question, this is vastly superior to mirroring the drives at the OS level. Mirroring protects you only from hardware failures. It doesn't protect you from dragging an important folder to the trash and then going "oops."

Well, it would be nice if Apple fixed... (4, Informative)

meme_police (645420) | about 9 years ago | (#12149814)

...this [frsirt.com] before allowing their vendors to add more crappy conduits and then taking forever to fix their old root exploitable ones.

Re:Well, it would be nice if Apple fixed... (1)

confidential (23321) | about 9 years ago | (#12149915)

I haven't really looked into this much... but then again, I don't really think I have to:

* fm-iSink.c

* overflow in mRouter, suid binary used by iSync, on OSX <= 10.3.7


10.3.8 [apple.com] is the current version of the OS.

Re:Well, it would be nice if Apple fixed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150034)

It's vulnerable in 10.3.8 as well.

Re:Well, it would be nice if Apple fixed... (1)

nguyenhm (577058) | about 9 years ago | (#12149932)

Tiger is going to have an all new sync framework. Should be much easier to add conduits.

9500, connectivity, PuTTY (1)

landoltjp (676315) | about 9 years ago | (#12149821)

It's great that he could bridge to his 9500 and connect, but I guess one could also just run the Symbian version of PuTTY [sourceforge.net] as well. I use it and it works great on my 9500.

Tiger Nights by THE BONGOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12149978)

Tiger Nights

(words and music by Richard Barone and James Mastro)

tiger, tiger
there are some things
i dream about
in the bushes
hidden kisses
you turn around
and i see you
wearing something
striped in black...

we'll live
just like a tiger
and do what we want when we do
we'll love,
and then our dreams of the kill will come true

winds of passion
this is something
i've dreamed about
and tonight i'm
gonna tell you
what i've cried about --
deep inside me
there is something burning bright for you
tiger, tiger
in the bushes
gonna wait for you

and then we'll love
just like a tiger!
our friends they will call on the phone
and we'll long
for what the jungle has taken away

we'll love
just like a tiger
and do what we want when we do
we'll fight
and then our dreams of the kill will come true

©1983 Ackee Music, Inc./Miniature Music/Fire Red Music (ASCAP)
All rights reserved.

Improved Palm support would be nice (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150018)

It's great that the list of supported devices is expanded and everything, but do you suppose Apple could get their iSync Palm Conduit to work a little better? I wouldn't mind if they could get the devices they currently support to work better before they start adding support for every phone on the planet.

Tiger out on May 1st (1)

chrism238 (657741) | about 9 years ago | (#12150352)

Well, that's my best information, but if we each choose one day each, someone is bound to be correct.

Coming out at NAB for sure (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12150438)

From an inside source.

Symbian bringing pleasure to us all... (1)

OSXexpert (859428) | about 9 years ago | (#12150629)

I wonder if the Girls of OS X wanting to get their Symbian connectivity should in the meantime simply enjoy another kind of symbian satisfaction until OS X supports the phone kind. ;)
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