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Hoary Hedgehog Ubuntu 5.04 Released

Zonk posted about 9 years ago | from the best-release-name-evar dept.

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Simon (S2) writes "Ubuntu Linux 5.04, code name 'Hoary Hedgehog', is now available. It offers the following new features: Simple and fast Installation, live CD's for Intel x86, AMD64 and PPC, GNOME 2.10.1, Firefox 1.0.2, first class productivity software, and X.org 6.8.2. Read the announcement and the complete release notes. Quick download links for the i386 architecture: ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent (587MB) and ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent (625MB). Install CD and live CD images for AMD64 and PowerPC computers are also available." Kubuntu is out in a new release as well. Screenshots available of the Kubuntu release. Update: 04/08 14:21 GMT by Z : Made the direct ISO links torrents.

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Torrents man (5, Informative)

ShepyNCL (740977) | about 9 years ago | (#12175263)

Put a link to the torrents as well.

Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.

And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth

http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]

Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]


Re:Torrents man (3, Insightful)

Slack3r78 (596506) | about 9 years ago | (#12175304)

You beat me to it. Direct linking to *two* 600+ MB isos on the front page of Slashdot? That's asking for disaster.

That said, I've got the torrent for both i386 and PPC going, can't wait to finally get this installed. I've run the dev builds of this on and off at different points, and it had definitely been shaping up to be a great, useful distribution.

$699 plus fines (2, Funny)

tepples (727027) | about 9 years ago | (#12175465)

It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.

Only SCO would sue it for that :-)

Ubuntu rocks (5, Informative)

koody (575863) | about 9 years ago | (#12175264)

Download the torrent [ubuntu.com]

New stuff include

  • Gnome 2.10.1, which makes the desktop a lot faster than before
  • X.org
  • Simplified update- and package management
  • Much faster boot process
  • Better laptop support (ie suspending, hibernating, processor frequency scaling)
  • Kickstart support for automated largescale installations
  • Live CD and Install CD both use the new debian installer infrastructure
  • UTF-8 by default
  • A program for collecting information about what hardware works and what doesn't
  • Kubuntu [kubuntu.org] - complete KDE 3.4 based version of Ubuntu

Stuff people are going to bitch about

  • No graphical installer. The current installer is extremely simple and has been streamlined even further in this release. A graphical installer is planned for the next version (Breezy Badger).
  • No menu editor installed. One can always edit the files by hand, or install kmenu or something similar for gnome. The official gnome menu editor just didn't finish in time.
  • No DivX or MP3 support. These are simple to add though and anyone coming from debian will probably already know of the Marillat repositories. Just look at the instructions in the wiki [ubuntulinux.org] or use Hoary After-Install helper [ubuntuforums.org] or another script [ubuntuforums.org] to do the dirty work for you.

OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu [osdir.com].

Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support [ubuntulinux.org]-page

Primary mirrors

Other mirrors

Australia [planetmirror.com] Canada [usherbrooke.ca] Croatia [carnet.hr] Czech Republic [ubuntu.cz] France [ovh.net] Germany [rfc822.org] Germany [kgt.org] Ireland [heanet.ie] Italy [mirror.garr.it] Lithuania [litnet.lt] Namibia [polytechnic.edu.na] Netherlands [stuwww.uvt.nl] Norway [uninett.no] Portugal [glua.ua.pt] Portugal [fe.up.pt] South Africa [is.co.za] Spain [aditel.org] Switzerland [switch.ch] United Kingdom [ubuntu.com] United Kingdom [mirrorservice.org] United Kingdom [hands.com] United States [tds.net] United States [umn.edu] United States [opensourcemirrors.org]

Re:Ubuntu rocks (4, Informative)

idn (873607) | about 9 years ago | (#12175475)

About the media support you can just get VLC from the Ubuntu repositories and that plays pretty much everything.

Graphical installer has been moved to the next release as has some other nice hci improvments like a boot splash

what? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175265)

Is this like OSS for tracking down nigerian bestiality?

Whacked names (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175274)

"Hoary Hedgehog Ubuntu"

And people wonder why the corporate world is leery of linux.

Re:Whacked names (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175361)

Hoary Hedgehogs are common in South Africa and businesspeople relate very well to them. As well as the elephants and lions on the street corners and the aardvarks and jakkalse. Of course, if it was called Sprinkbok, life would be much better....

Re:Whacked names (2, Interesting)

Reignking (832642) | about 9 years ago | (#12175565)

I've got to agree. I've got no idea what it is, and with a name like that, I'm not inclined to investigate.

OTOH, we were all making fun of Mandriva yesterday. It isn't easy to create a good, strong, sensible product or brand name.

Yes, Mr. CEO, we're going with Hoary Hedgehog (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175280)

to base all your company's infrastructure on. Doesn't that just give you the warm fuzzies?

Debian fizzles, Ubuntu shines (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175281)

Debian should be a giant repository and leave the releases to Ubuntu and Kubuntu. It's been a month and Debian shows little sign of getting the latest Gnome into Experimental much less anywhere else despite the fact Ubuntu packages have been ready for ages.

If I didn't have 4 machines with Debian, I'd be using Ubuntu.

Remember guys... (5, Insightful)

_Hellfire_ (170113) | about 9 years ago | (#12175299)

Leave your torrent clients open after you're finished.

Let's not reduce Canonical's servers to smoldering piles of silicon over the next few days :)

Re:Remember guys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175391)

But after I burn the iso's to a disc, how am i supposed to reboot and install ubuntu over windows?

Re:Remember guys... (1, Insightful)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | about 9 years ago | (#12175511)

Leave your torrent clients open after you're finished.

What if your ISP prohibits you from acting as a server? Many ISPs have that in their terms of service. Using Bittorrent opens you up as a public server basically. Better be safe than sorry and just use HTTP or FTP to download the ISOs if your ISP has this in their TOS.

Annonce de la sortie de Ubuntu en français (3, Informative)

millette (56354) | about 9 years ago | (#12175300)

With a few friends, I restarted Nattor, the little CD vendor. We're not ready ready yet, but I had to translate de Ubuntu announcement in french [nattor.org], so there you go :)

Re:Annonce de la sortie de Ubuntu en français (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175404)

I believe that should be "translate ze Ubuntu announcement". Can't you speak French?

BTW, are there downloadable MP3s or samples on your band's site? I'm a reggae fan and would love to check them out, but can't find them.

Please install! (5, Interesting)

Alibloke (838866) | about 9 years ago | (#12175303)

Ubuntu Linux is the best distribution I have ever installed. The guy behind this (I forget his name) has invested a small fortune, and I am sure it will become one of the top distributions very soon.

I emplore all Slashdotters to at least have a brief look at Hoary. It really is the "Mutts nuts"!

Distrowatch (5, Informative)

grokster (557481) | about 9 years ago | (#12175393)

I am sure it will become one of the top distributions very soon.

Seen the Distrowatch [distrowatch.com] ranking?

Re:Distrowatch (4, Interesting)

Slack3r78 (596506) | about 9 years ago | (#12175440)

Not only that, but try changing the dataset to the past 3 months or past month, and you'll see that Ubuntu has been averaging nearly 30% more hits per day than the next closest distribution.

It'd make sense that the 6 month number would be a bit off as Ubuntu is on a twice-a-year release schedule, with the first release having been 6 months ago now. (The version numbering scheme is Ubuntu Year.Month, hence Ubuntu 5.04).

So while Distrowatch may not be the best indicator of a distribution's popularity, it certainly seems to indicate that Canonical and crew are onto to something here.

Re:Distrowatch (1)

Alibloke (838866) | about 9 years ago | (#12175536)

I see, it may be the top of distrowatch but as to installed versions being used in the real world I'm sure it pails in comparison to the likes of Mandrake, SuSE, RH, etc. Cheers for the link tho, it's bookmarked.

Re:Please install! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175535)

I wish I could - I've heard such great things about it. Unfortunately, it's Gnome only. I've tried to like Gnome. Really, I have. Every six months or so I go back to it (yes, an updated version) and try it out for a couple of days. And each time I go back to KDE. The last couple of times, with the dumbed-down interface, it's been unbearable. I can't even stand using GIMP these days with its brain dead file open/save dialogs.

I'm not trying to bash Gnome. I know lots of people seem to love it. I just can't use it. It's friggin horrible.

(No, I'm not a recent Windows or Mac convert. I've been using Linux since '95 or '96 - fvwm was my first window manager.

Re:Please install! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175556)

You sound like you might be interested in Kubuntu [kubuntu.org] - it's Ubuntu, but using KDE instead of Gnome. Damn silly idea if you ask me, but it takes all sorts ;)

I wish debian was as cool as ubunto (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175311)

if only debian would use x.org's X11 server instead of this POS XFree86 :(

My attempt (-1, Redundant)

DogDude (805747) | about 9 years ago | (#12175320)

I downloaded it about a week ago. Tried to install it on a generic PC. For some reason, the whole XWindows thing failed, so all I got after install was a command prompt. I wasn't too impressed.

Re:My attempt (1)

ChaosCube (862389) | about 9 years ago | (#12175481)

Generic PC...?

I downloaded the live cd a couple of weeks ago for ubuntu, and it was great. No problems here, and I have a "generic" pc. By that I mean custom made, and not a Dell or HPiece of junk. Yesterday, I downloaded the torrent for the release candidate and will install it tomorrow. It's wonderful!

Perhaps your "generic" pc skillz are not 1337?

Re:My attempt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175583)

But that was a development version.

You should have filed bugs to try and sort the problem out. That way, others won't have the same expreience.

Make stuff better, don't just complain.

How is... (1)

merpal (873013) | about 9 years ago | (#12175322)

Firefox 1.02 a feature? It takes me 10 seconds to download and about a minute to install.

Re:How is... (1)

xcfx (844022) | about 9 years ago | (#12175446)

Know you can save 10 seconds of bandwidth and one minute of your life installing it :)

Re:How is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175496)

Because it means total noobs don't have to figure out how to install it themselves. It makes life just a little bit easier for those who aren't as smart as you. The feature is that you get one of the best browsers in its current version with no work on your part.

hoary hedgehog: not cute, not clever. just stupid (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175331)

fucking dumb name.

KDE and Gnome (4, Interesting)

gr8_phk (621180) | about 9 years ago | (#12175345)

I like that the distribution originally picked one desktop (gnome) rather than burden the install media with duplicate packages for both. It's nice that they also now support the other (KDE) with a different CD. Me? I'm a gnome fan and don't want all that extra stuff to download, but it's nice that they support the KDE folks the same way now.

Re:KDE and Gnome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175456)

What about the people that don't like GNOME or KDE?

Re:KDE and Gnome (1)

Jagasian (129329) | about 9 years ago | (#12175485)

The problem with this is that it prevents BitTorrent from sharing server load between hosting Ubuntu ISOs and Kubuntu ISOs. However, since the differences are all due to a few key packages, the core of (K)Ubuntu can be shared, which is a good thing.

Re:KDE and Gnome (4, Informative)

digidave (259925) | about 9 years ago | (#12175550)

Or just download Ubuntu and 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and you now have a system running KDE identical to the Kubuntu CD. Or install the Kubuntu CD and 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and you get the same results.

the ubuntu and kubuntu packages are meta-packages that install whichever desktop you want.

My attempt (-1, Redundant)

DogDude (805747) | about 9 years ago | (#12175347)

I downloaded it about a week ago. Tried to install it on a generic PC. For some reason, the whole XWindows thing failed (a few esoteric error messages during install), so all I got after install was a command prompt. I wasn't too impressed.

Re:My attempt (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175417)

This happened twice? :)

Re:My attempt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175563)

it would seem that way.. never mind.. with a third attempt you may get it to work.. in which case you will score higher than -1 redundant!... better luck next time...

Re:My attempt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175587)

it would seem that way.. never mind.. with a third attempt you may get it to work.. in which case you will score higher than -1 redundant!... better luck next time...

ooh the irony...

Gnome 2.10? (5, Interesting)

Futaba-chan (541818) | about 9 years ago | (#12175357)

It's interesting that Ubuntu, a binary distro based on slow old Debian, has Gnome stable on 2.10.1, while we bleeding-edge Gentoo users are still on 2.8....

Re:Gnome 2.10? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175394)

No, stable Gentoo users are on 2.8. "Bleeding edge" Gentoo users can install the packages that are still considered "unstable" before they're moved in, if they want, but they risk encountering problems that have yet to be found in the testing process.

Poor attempt at a troll, try a little harder next time.

Re:Gnome 2.10? (2, Interesting)

Illissius (694708) | about 9 years ago | (#12175433)

If you don't have it then you are not, in fact, bleeding edge. It's in portage, just not yet marked as stable. (Last I checked it was hardmasked, don't know whether it's moved to plain ~unstable yet -- don't use it myself.)

Re:Gnome 2.10? (4, Insightful)

Drooling Iguana (61479) | about 9 years ago | (#12175531)

It's harder to make sure that a package is stable when everyone's compiling it from source with different compiler settings.

Real question (2, Interesting)

Frogbert (589961) | about 9 years ago | (#12175359)

How do I upgrade my current warty install?

Re:Real question (2, Informative)

Bleeblah (602029) | about 9 years ago | (#12175392)

1. Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and replace all instances of "warty" with "hoary". 2. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

my two cents (2, Informative)

outcast36 (696132) | about 9 years ago | (#12175523)

The other posters are correct in changing the apt sources. There are a few post-install steps http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504 [ubuntulinux.org]

My upgrade didn't include ubuntu-desktop, so I had to add it via apt manually (synaptic was acting weird). When I was done with that, I rebooted & nautilus wouldn't show me my homedir, and I lost all my icons (1 document) on the desktop. One more reboot and everything looks good.

If anyone wants to tell me that best python IDE in GNOME I'd be grateful.

Re:Real question (4, Informative)

_Hellfire_ (170113) | about 9 years ago | (#12175576)

It's fairly straightforward:

1) Grab a root console (Applications->System Tools->Root Console) and type the password for the first unprivilidged account on your system.

2) vi /etc/apt/sources.list

3) Replace the lines that are marked thusly:

deb http://ubuntu.../ [ubuntu...] warty main

and type this instead:

deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [ubuntu.com] hoary main restricted
deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [ubuntu.com] hoary main restricted

deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [ubuntu.com] hoary-updates main restricted
deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [ubuntu.com] hoary-updates main restricted

(ignore Slashdot's anti-goatse domain display feature)

Note: this may be as simple as replacing every instance of warty with hoary - but I'm not sure.

3) Save the file (ie esc :wq [enter])

4) type apt-get update

5) type apt-get dist-upgrade

6) Wait for everything to download, cross your fingers nothing breaks and enjoy.

disclaimer: it's late at night. I may have missed something...

Damn you! (2)

elasticwings (758452) | about 9 years ago | (#12175368)

Thanks alot whoever posted this article. Now the ubuntu website is being slashdotted. I'm now declaring you responsible for my apt-get update moving slow as molasses. Thanks alot buddy. I really appreciate it... NOT!

WTF? (2, Interesting)

FreeLinux (555387) | about 9 years ago | (#12175372)

OK, I'm not trying to troll here but, can someone please explain to me what the sudden infatuation with Ubuntu is? I tried Ubuntu. It was OK. Nothing stupendous but OK. It wasn't so good as to make me want to switch from any other distro.

Why the hell is everyone so totally infatuated with Ubuntu. It seems to have eclipsed Gentoo, so far as fan boys and that just seems ridiculous.

Re:WTF? (5, Informative)

speel3k (793160) | about 9 years ago | (#12175449)

beacause it just works simple as that .. you plug in a thumb drive it mounts you put in a music cd it works yea i know this is probably easy to set up your self and also no more dependency hell lol and as i said again it just works

Re:WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175570)

so how is this different from Mandrake 10.1??

I do all those same things. Hell my Fiancee likes mandrake over windows XP now.

ubuntu does nothing that Mandrake already did. and if you actually BUY mandrake it does more like installing the nvidia binary drivers for you.

the big deal is (4, Insightful)

jbellis (142590) | about 9 years ago | (#12175452)

it's an open (as opposed to several commercial debian derivatives) debian-based distro that isn't 3 years out of date.

lots of people love debian but wish stable weren't so old and testing were more... stable. :)

Re:the big deal is (1)

Jugalator (259273) | about 9 years ago | (#12175580)

it's an open (as opposed to several commercial debian derivatives) debian-based distro that isn't 3 years out of date.

You mean like MEPIS, also very high on Distrowatch and overtaking e.g. SUSE, and now at 4th place?
I also have to say it's a bit strange...

Re:WTF? (1)

Jagasian (129329) | about 9 years ago | (#12175459)

Fedora and (K)Ubuntu are two free community based desktop oriented distros that actually do a good job of being desktop operating systems. Everybody is all excited about (K)Ubuntu because it is based on Debian, yet includes very recent packages, which means that you get all of the Debian goodness along with cutting edge packages, an easy install, and a userfriendly desktop.

I have been on Fedora for a few years now, but I am planning on switching to Kubuntu... mainly because Gnome has been driving me crazy. It used to be slow and buggy, but now it is just plain buggy.

Re:WTF? (5, Funny)

dont_think_twice (731805) | about 9 years ago | (#12175477)

Actually, Ubuntu was actually a scheme by the Gentoo user community to get rid of the fanboys. We figured that if we could create a distro that had an even more obscure name than Gentoo, all of the fanboys would flock to it so that they could stay l33t. It seems to have worked perfectly.

Re:WTF? (1)

jrcamp (150032) | about 9 years ago | (#12175508)

Because it's taken the best base distribution (Debian unstable), stabalized the packages and made a stable release from it while putting its own polish on everything. Debian has the biggest package repository, which is my personal selling point. It's also completely free, in every sense of the word.

People wanted something simple yet functional where they don't have to go RPM hunting all the time. Ubuntu delivered.

Re:WTF? (4, Informative)

finkployd (12902) | about 9 years ago | (#12175522)

I figured it was all total hype until I started installing it to see what it was like. When I found that it kicked the collective asses of every other distribution I have ever tried (Redhat, Slackware, Debian, Mandrake, SuSE, Turbo, Storm, Gentoo, and others) in terms of hardware detection and configuration, I figured out what the fuss was about. Otherwise it is ok, nothing particularly special, but damn can it detect and correctly configure some obscure hardware.

For that reason alone, I recommend it to newbies.


Re:WTF? (1)

xcfx (844022) | about 9 years ago | (#12175538)

People just need the anual 'one' big hit. Slackware used to have that effect, later Debian, and then Gentoo... Now, it's an Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) fever. Stay tuned, next year you will be seing basically the same phenomenon within the Slashdot community. Now, IMHO, I think Ubuntu has been a success because it's an up2date distribution (considering Debian), it's pretty much Debian based (but better and up2date), it has been ported to most common architectures (X86, PPC, X86_64, etc) and above all, it has a really nice and strong community.

Please Answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175539)

Someone please answer this question. I've read and read all sort of webpages on Ubuntu and don't understand what the fuss is about. All I can see is it is some kind of New Age Debian.

x.org vs XFree86 (1)

Brummund (447393) | about 9 years ago | (#12175383)

How's the performance of X.org compared to XFree86?

I don't care much about eyecandy or 3D, but if X.org is faster on 2D, I might consider switching. (I use XFre86 with 1920x1200/24b res and on my P4 3.2Ghz with a 128MB card NVidia card, the windows still flicker when moved.)

Re:x.org vs XFree86 (2, Insightful)

Jagasian (129329) | about 9 years ago | (#12175419)

I have been using X.org on Fedora for what seems like half a year now. I haven't noticed any difference in performance. The only thing that i have noticed is that it is less buggy, has a few more features, and the names of various configuration files and directories are different, though the formats of these files and directories are the same.

Considering that it started out as a simple fork of XFree86, you shouldn't expect a big difference between the two.

Re:x.org vs XFree86 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175458)

The biggest speed bump comes from jettisoning David Dawes, his revised license, and his stagnated development model.

A desktop candidate? (2, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | about 9 years ago | (#12175390)

I wonder whether we could finally finally have a Linux desktop candidate in Ubuntu/Kubuntu. The reviews so far and the fact that folks at Distrowatch ahref=http://www.distrowatch.com/ [slashdot.org]http://www.distro watch.com/> have Ubuntu at #1 says a lot about that potential fact. I also understand that it is quite fast.

I will be doing my eveluation too, but I will go with a somewhat biased mind I have to admit. If the Kubuntu folks have not trimmed down: for KDE - sane defaults and for GNOME - making it easier to do common desktop stuff, this will be just another distro.

I wonder whether they will be considering autopackage ahref=http://www.autopackage.org/ [slashdot.org]http://www.autopa ckage.org/>. Anyone know about this?

Ubuntu on Distrowatch Hit List (1)

prairiedock (626753) | about 9 years ago | (#12175408)

For some time, Ubuntu has been number 1 on Distrowatch's hit list (a good, not perfect measure of popularity.) It seems to be growing exponentially: it now has twice as many page hits per day (2970) as the next most popular distro (Mandriva, aka Mandrake, with 1471). And Kubuntu has come out of nowhere in a short time to reach number 11. This situation is unprecedented in the time I've been watching Distrowatch.

Can someone explain this? Why Ubuntu rather than Fedora, or for that matter Mepis or Kanotix, both fine user-oriented Debian-based distros?

Re:Ubuntu on Distrowatch Hit List (5, Informative)

elasticwings (758452) | about 9 years ago | (#12175480)

I switched to Ubuntu from Fedora Core 3 a few weeks ago. To be honest, as a desktop, Ubuntu has Fedora beat hands down for me. It runs hella faster on newer hardware. It's setup to work with Apt/Synaptic by default. The Gnome desktop is much newer than the one they're using with Fedora Core 3. I know they have the new version of Gnome in FC4 Test 1, but it has lots of problems. Ubuntu works and works well. Oh and the apt servers are alot faster than the ones for Fedora. In general, I've had alot of good luck with this distro. As a matter of fact, I installed it on a newly aquired laptop last night. Once again, it works beautifully.

Re:Ubuntu on Distrowatch Hit List (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175584)

I installed ubuntu but during install one of the prompts (that installs most of the apps including X) defaults to N (i.e no).

This may cause what another poster experienced, i.e being left with a console and no gui.

Can anyone advise how to install user mode linux on hoary because I couldnt get that to install, its not even in the repositories?

Re:Ubuntu on Distrowatch Hit List (1)

Illissius (694708) | about 9 years ago | (#12175578)

Multiple factors.
- One of the two main desktop environments, tweaked and customized to make it even better.
- Comes on a single CD.
- Sane package management.

All the other 'major, user friendly' distros flunk the second two, vary on the first (from what I've heard SuSE is quite good in that respect, dunno about Fedora and Mandrak^H^Hiva).
As for why it's better than MEPIS/Kanotix/etc., haven't looked into it enough to know, but I suspect up-to-dateness with the latest cool stuff may be one of the reasons.

Kuntu torrents too! (2, Informative)

MastaStealth (874445) | about 9 years ago | (#12175409)

Hey, here are 2 Kubuntu torrents too... Kubuntu-i386 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5 .04-install-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] Kubuntu-Amd64 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5 .04-install-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]

Re:Kuntu torrents too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175561)

Nothing says stability and usability like a distro created out of spite.

Hoary Hedgewhat Ubun-who? (2, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | about 9 years ago | (#12175411)

I'm getting to old for all this. I can even grok the names anymore. What happened to the days of "Visi-Calc" (a visual calculator) or "Draw" or "Write" or... I'm sorry. I'm approaching 40. :(

Re:Hoary Hedgewhat Ubun-who? (4, Funny)

iGN97 (83927) | about 9 years ago | (#12175547)

It's amazing that your post even ended up on slashdot.org and not website.com.

Does the LiveCD write anything to the hard disk ? (1, Interesting)

yusufg (3239) | about 9 years ago | (#12175418)

According to this blog entry [glazman.org] by Daniel Glazman of Nvu fame, the ubuntu LiveCD destroyed his MBR Can anybody confirm/deny such behaviour by Ubuntu's LiveCD or LiveCD's in general (don't they mount hard disks read-only)

Re:Does the LiveCD write anything to the hard disk (1)

calc (1463) | about 9 years ago | (#12175552)

That post was from back when Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty) was released. I have used the Wary LiveCD many times without any problems, and this is the first time I have heard of it eating partitions so it is not likely to be reproducible.

The Reverend Cleo Says.... (5, Funny)

mehaiku (754091) | about 9 years ago | (#12175426)

To create the best Linux brew
We must join the very top two
To prevent any illusion
Of brand name confusion
Call it MandrivaGNU/KUbuntu

Instructions to upgrade warty to hoary (5, Informative)

jhdevos (56359) | about 9 years ago | (#12175427)

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes [ubuntulinux.org]

If this goes as easily as most of my past debian upgrades, I will be running Hoary in about 30 minutes :-)


Re:Instructions to upgrade warty to hoary (1)

RichDice (7079) | about 9 years ago | (#12175588)

Here's to hoping.

Last autumn, I wanted to give Ubuntu a try. So I bought myself an external USB hard drive on which to install it. (No sense in messing up a known working current install on my internal hard drive.)

The install wasn't difficult... until the time came to write the grub record. It asked me if I wanted to write a grub record, and I said yes. Being one of those "easy installer", it didn't bother asking me any more questions after that. It simply over-wrote my existing grub record on my internal hard drive. Umm... thanks, guys.

I haven't given Ubuntu another try since then. I don't have time to risk on this kind of funny business.


Ubuntu Love (1)

ThomS (866280) | about 9 years ago | (#12175437)

I've been using Ubuntu for a couple of years now and it was the first distro that I'd tried (and I'd tried a fair few) that made me seriously consider deleting my windows partition. Far less bloated than most of it's competitors, easy yet not patronising install, fantastic stable repository and most of all, they really encompass the friendly, open spirit of Linux, as evident on the forums and mailing lists.

Re:Ubuntu Love (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175512)

>> I've been using Ubuntu for a couple of years now>>

Didn't it come out in the fall of 2004???

Re:Ubuntu Love (1)

Zemplar (764598) | about 9 years ago | (#12175567)

Last August, Ubuntu was THE reason I dumped my Windows partition and destroyed every CD I had with the word "Microsoft" on it. I'm much happier now.

Only one slight problem, in Hoary, DHCP is not working properly for me. I have to deactivate then reactivate my NIC, of which, only one NIC can work. Otherwise, it just ROCKS!

Ubuntu on X40 (1)

pawal (6862) | about 9 years ago | (#12175453)

I installed it a couple of hours ago, without even realizing it was a new release. I have been playing around with both fedora core 3 and Debian unstable on this Thinkpad X40 just before, and I am deeply impressed with the work they have put into this Ubuntu-release.

The only things remaining is getting some sort of wifi roaming-stuff working, and the dualhead. The X40 link on the documentation wiki is broken.

not to bitch but... (1)

spectrokid (660550) | about 9 years ago | (#12175469)

Is there a point in compiling desktop-aimed distros to 386? I mean, it's not like you can actually run KDE + OO on a 386? Wouldn't 586 or even 686 be a little more realistic?

Re:not to bitch but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175581)

Well, 386 is just the assembly compatibility, they are optimised for 686.

You can't optimise for 586 assembly because it runs terribly on any non-pentium computer and you can't optimise for 686 because it won't even run on some processors such as the Via ones.

Ubuntu == Support (1)

mathmatt (851301) | about 9 years ago | (#12175494)

To Do list for anyone who has tried linux unsuccesfully in the past

1. Install Hoary
2(a). Everything works fine.
2(b). Join the IRC support channel #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
and ask questions.
3. ?
4. World domination!

Nice name (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12175498)

In other news : Ron "Hedgehog" Jeremy gives his nickname to a Linux build.

their codenames are the best! (2, Funny)

drunken dash (804404) | about 9 years ago | (#12175579)

Don't you just *love* Ubuntu's codenames?

Last release: Warty Warthog
This release: Hoary Hedgehog
Next release: Breezy Badger

hahaha, they're just so... different!
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