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Apollo 13 Engineers to be Honored

samzenpus posted more than 9 years ago | from the duct-tape-to-the-rescue dept.

Space 183

sconeu writes "Yahoo! News is carrying a story that the engineers who helped save the crew of Apollo 13 will be honored by GlobalSpec. The article mentions the jury rigged air scrubbers, and gives duct tape its due." Here is our coverage of the 35th anniversary.

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fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301345)

#buttes sucks a huge cock. fact.

props to gnaa (-1, Troll)

Opportunist Troll (873090) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301346)

buttes sucks cock lol hy.

GNAA = DEAD OMGLOL!!!11 GREASED UP YODA DOLL!!11 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301374)

GO RUNIX!!1

Hello, I am new to the Muslim religeon. (0, Troll)

The_Fire_Horse (552422) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301347)

Sorry to post this here, but I know many slashdotters are Mulsim and I was wondering if you could help me answer a couple of quick questions.

1. I understand that it says I have to kill others who dont praise allah, but what if I dont hear them praising allah - do I still have to kill them?

2. Why am I allowed to kill people at all, but I CANT eat a bacon sandwich. Do I only kill people who eat bacon, or doesnt that matter?

Thanks for your time.

damned grammar. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301350)

the phrase is "jimmy rigged" not "jury rigged"

Re:damned grammar. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301367)

No it isn't.

See? [google.com]

Re:damned grammar. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301377)

Actually, its "Jerry Rigged", and its not a gramatical mistake either.

tut...

Wow... did you take the time to look that up first (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301449)

Because a quick search of bartelby.com would let you know that "jerry-rig" and "jury-rig" are valid terms, with "jerry-rig" implying shoddier work. Make sure you're right before you flame next time.

Re:damned grammar. (4, Informative)

Bush Pig (175019) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301529)

No. It's "jury rigged" and "jerry built".

"Jury rigged" implies a kludge that allows you to survive (say, if your ship got dismasted, or something). "Jerry built" applies mostly to extremely poorly built houses (the kind that has mortar made of flour paste).

Re:damned grammar. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301534)

Sorry, but I was responding to another post which seemed to have disappeared. Didn't mean to *flame*

The real hero was of course (5, Funny)

beders (245558) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301351)

An inanimate carbon rod

Re:The real hero was of course (0)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301384)

No the real hero was human ingenuity, even if I sound like an alien extra from Star Trek when I say that.

Obligatory duct tape joke (5, Funny)

gowen (141411) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301352)

Duct tape is like The Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it's used to bind the universe together.

Re:Obligatory duct tape joke (2, Insightful)

telecsan (170227) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301439)

At least with Duct Tape, the light side and dark side are always in equal proportion.

Re:Obligatory duct tape joke (2, Funny)

TheHawke (237817) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301911)

Until you mangle a strip by jamming the sticky sides together, then it's all DARK!

I hate when that happens...

Re:Obligatory duct tape joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301709)

And I say KUDOS to the Red Green's of their day!

The first men to demonstrate that you can fix ANYthing, even a rocket ship, with a little duct tape and a little ingenuity.

Re:Obligatory duct tape joke (1)

davidmcw (97565) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302048)

http://www.cbc.ca/redgreen/ - Bloody great show

Who? (5, Insightful)

FTL (112112) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301364)

Who the heck are GlobalSpec [globalspec.com] ? Is it news when some random company decides to award someone famous? Can I get also get front-page Slashdot story if my company gives "a crystal globe" to Linus Torvalds and/or Bill Gates?

No criticism to the Apollo 13 engineers. What they did was amazing. But what's this story got to do with them?

Re:Who? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301431)

Who the heck are GlobalSpec [globalspec.com]?
They are, according to themselves "The Engineering Search Engine".
Is it news when some random company decides to award someone famous? Can I get also get front-page Slashdot story if my company gives "a crystal globe" to Linus Torvalds and/or Bill Gates?
No you probably wont get front page Slashdot publicity if you try and do something similar to what Globalspec has done. If only because they thought of it before you did. Unfortunately, for your company, this is how the world works.

Re:Who? (0)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301446)

*No you probably wont get front page Slashdot publicity if you try and do something similar to what Globalspec has done. If only because they thought of it before you did. Unfortunately, for your company, this is how the world works.*

ever heard of dupes? damn straight he could get anything he wanted on the frontpage of slashdot if he gave it, say, 8 hours of work(2 hours of submitting with aliases, 4 hours for googling for someone to honor, 2 hours for writing the story).

frontpage of slashdot.. anything can get there. really.

Re:Who? (2, Interesting)

gowen (141411) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301443)

Who the heck are GlobalSpec?
They're an engineering company. [globalspec.com] They make motors, bearing, compressors and the like. This is simultaneously
i) a publicity stunt for themselves
ii) an attempt to improve the standing of engineering (and engineers) as a profession.
Is it news when some random company decides to award someone famous?
Apparently so.

Re:Who? (3, Informative)

artifex2004 (766107) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301537)

They're an engineering company.


Actually,

"GlobalSpec is a rapidly growing B-to-B, Internet-based, 'media-model' business linking buyers and sellers in the $500 billion electrical, mechanical and optical products markets." [globalspec.com]

You must have mistaken their front page search links to mean they actually had something to do with those things?

They do seem to be good at generating hot air and pageviews with press releases, anyway.

Re:Who? (5, Funny)

houghi (78078) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301573)

Can I get also get front-page Slashdot story if my company gives "a crystal globe" to Linus Torvalds and/or Bill Gates?

No, but give either/both an enema and it will be frontpage news.

Re:Who? (1)

cmowire (254489) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301856)

They are primarily google spammers. So if I want to get needle valves or any other mechanical part, I'll always see their little site and one of their competitors, before I see any actual useful Google search results.

Duct tape.. (0)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301370)

It's odd how everyone seems to think duct tape is some universal god send. Why has no one imformed blue peter that duct table can be used for anything? Surely they could make a small tank or a space ship without toilet rolls if it's THAT good.

Re:Duct tape.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301400)

hehehehehehehe... he/she said "blue peter"... *snicker*

Re:Duct tape.. (1)

Silver Sloth (770927) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301406)

Duct Tape == Sticky backed plastic

Val Singleton - you shaped my childhood!

Some posters need an editor... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301438)

It's not "jury rigged," it's "jury-rigged." Also, it's not "god send," it's "godsend." Try hitting up webster's or bartleby.com before you hit "submit"

Re:Duct tape.. (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301467)

Are you insane? The little bastards are destructive enough without Blue Peter equipping them with duct tape tanks and other military goodies.

Re:Duct tape.. (3, Interesting)

thevoice (54067) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301485)

For that kind of industrial strength goodness you need gaffer tape.

I've seen doors hinged on that stuff alone, it leaves duct tape for dead.

Re:Duct tape.. (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301851)

so have I.. I live in that kinda house.. quite funny really..

Duct tape saves the day (5, Funny)

kiljin (780496) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301376)

Now we just have to figure out how to use duct tape to convert from english to metric units.

Re:Duct tape saves the day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301535)

Imperial to metric.

Thing I'd like to know is... (5, Interesting)

Smiffa2001 (823436) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301382)

...why the air scrubbers were different shapes in the first place? Was it because of an engineering reason (room/volume to fit into) or because two different teams were working on the designs of the two modules? Seems daft that on essentially the same spacecraft, there are two devices that do the same job with different designs. It's always bothered me...

That aside, it is good to see these guys being recognised.

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301422)

The reason: it was a government operation. Usually the stupidity and wastefulness of any public project is beyond comprehension.

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (4, Informative)

jonwil (467024) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301424)

The command module was build by North American Aviation and the Lunar Module was built by Grumman Aerospace.
So it could well be the case that since 2 different companies built the 2 different air systems, they used 2 different shapes of CO2 filters because no-one bothered to make them the same (after all, it didnt matter much at the time)

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (4, Informative)

macpeep (36699) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301427)

Because the command module was made by a different company than the lunar module and nobody thought about coordinating / unifying components between the two since nobody ever envisioned that there would actually be any need to use parts from one as spare parts for the other.

Contrary to popular belief, NASA does very little itself. Pretty much everything is done by subcontractors.

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (4, Funny)

CausticPuppy (82139) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301480)

done by subcontractors

And not just any subcontractors, mind you... but the lowest bidders. :-)

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (4, Insightful)

Steven Edwards (677151) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301540)

Yes I laugh whenever I hear/read someone bitch about lowest bidders on a contract. The most impressive enginering feats were done with slave labor. Throwing money at a problem solves nothing.

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301564)

The most impressive enginering feats were done with slave labor.

Yup, it's truly amazing what can be accomplished when your workers fear for their lives.

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (1)

blueturffan (867705) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302250)

Throwing money at a problem solves nothing.

You're forgetting the NASA mantra during the Apollo era -- Waste anything but time They threw a lot of money at the problem of putting a man on the moon.

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (2, Informative)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302255)

The most impressive enginering feats were done with slave labor.

Please name some of these feats. If you're thinking of the Pyramids, BTW, you're wrong. [harvard-magazine.com]

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302119)

Which in gov't contract speak, still means "a price far heavier then if you were a private consumer....CHUMP!"

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (4, Funny)

Illserve (56215) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301541)

The obvious answer is because the entire thing was a hoax. Ron Howard was contacted at the time (he was already 15 and NASA computers predicted he would be a great film director) and asked what would make his movie (already planned for production in 1995 back in the 70's) dramatic, and he came up with this idea.

It should also be pointed out that Tom Hanks is a robot specifically made to star in Apollo 13, which explains his meteoric rise to acting stardom. In fact, Bosom Buddies was created to serve as his vehicle by NASA.

NASA has more plans in place for both Ron and Tom in further upcoming movies about the "moon landings". Just you wait.

Re:Thing I'd like to know is... (1)

macrom (537566) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301998)

Hence the snide comment from Ed Harris' character, Gene Krantz, that it must be a government operation if one craft had square canisters and the other had round ones.

You also have to think, it's not like these 2 engineering teams e-mailed each other daily and sat in on video conferences and such. Phone calls probably could have been made, but I doubt that they did much more than discuss the manner in which the 2 craft would be docked together. And I seriously doubt that either company flew their engineers out to the other's site to view what was going on. All of these things take place in our world, but back then they probably operated mostly in their own vacuums.

Damn it (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301394)

"the jury rigged air scrubbers"

I knew they didn't get a fair trial...

Good training and preparedness (5, Interesting)

GomezAdams (679726) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301402)

One of the processes of setting up any critical mission whether for space or here below is doing the 'what if' drills. As a former submariner we trained to do our jobs under normal circumstances, then drilled even more for doing that job and several others under duress. Same with the space program. They have procedures for every almost every contingency and drill the crew and staff untl they could handle stress and deliver.

Bravo to them and the Apollo 13 crew. Well done!

Re:Good training and preparedness (2, Interesting)

sgant (178166) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301588)

What's even more impressive is that the problems with Apollo 13 weren't even simulated...hell, they weren't even thought about. It's amazing that they all got together and actually solved the problem by winging most of it.

All with computer systems with less power than the C64 and slide-rules...and yes, duct-tape!

I'm in awe of these guys.

Re:Good training and preparedness (2, Informative)

peshewa (830734) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302029)

Actually, they did simulate almost this exact scenario. In fact, as a simulator exercise for Apollo 10 they "failed" the fuel cells at almost exactly the same point in the flight where they failed on Apollo 13.


The "LEM as a lifeboat" scenario was pretty thoroughly considered a few times. While they did have some "real-time problems" to solve, the general approach had been worked out ahead of time.

Dupe from just 2 days ago (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301421)

snore.

What about Ed Harris (0, Offtopic)

Silver Sloth (770927) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301423)

And Tom Hanks, and ...

Re:What about Ed Harris (1)

calculadoru (760076) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301829)

Ed Harris, and Tom Hanks, and ...

It's Kevin Bacon, goddamnit. The poor bastard never gets any respect. Come on now, try to remember his name.
Oh, and don't mention that other guy. He sucks.

Engineering 101 (5, Funny)

jag2k (862535) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301426)

No engineering project is complete unless it's held together by copious amounts of duct tape. No exceptions.

Dammit, they misspelled jerry-rigging (1, Funny)

Nintenfreak (831523) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301441)

Okay jery-rigging I can understand, but jury-rigging? That sounds like something a tobacco company would do.

Re:Dammit, they misspelled jerry-rigging (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12302309)

Check it out, jury-rigging [answers.com] is a correct spelling. The jerry-rigging [answers.com] definition just refers back to jury-rigging, so I guess the original is jury-rig.

Good Idea (4, Funny)

lbmouse (473316) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301444)

Congratulations to the Apollo 13 engineers.

They should do something like this every year. They have the Grammies, Emmys, etc., why not the Nerdies? They could use Slashdot sections as the categories.

Great quote about duct tape... (4, Funny)

tyroneking (258793) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301470)

"One thing a Southern boy will never say is, 'I don't think duct tape will fix it.'"
That's so cool, but obviously means I'll never want to visit the South without my own personal surgeon.

Re:Great quote about duct tape... (1)

plaiddragon (20154) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301871)

I'll never want to visit the South without my own personal surgeon.

Don't worry. From what I've seen in Atlanta, we seem to be importing them. I don't think I've had a doctor with a Southern accent since the Reagan administration.

Redundancy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301510)

Given the cost of failure, you take more stuff than you absolutely need. The trick is then to be able to reconfigure the stuff in ways that weren't originally intended. I think it was the Voyager that had its spare parts reconfigured after it had been in space a long time. The result was that its computers became much more powerful than when it was launched.

Strangely, the masters of this seem to be the Russians. When Russian space crews work with American space crews, they complain that the Americans have poor bailing wire skills. The Russians are always working with broken down junk and have become adept at it. The Americans tend to be more helpless when something goes wrong. I think it shows something bad that has happened to the space program. In the beginning, the space program was quite primitive but it became more and more sophisticated. The result is actually less robust.

Re:Redundancy (1, Funny)

Phidoux (705500) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301595)

Mod +1 Redundant?

Re:Redundancy (1)

mikael (484) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302219)

No, Mod +1 Interesting.

I've seen this situation in the regular office world as well. It's amazing the amount of stuff that gets junked simply because one part has broken, and it's quicker to go across the street to buy a new item at the computer store, or to open a web-browser and make an online purchase, than it is too open the machine up and replace the broken component.

The most obvious example - my cousin had a portable CD-player that had crackly audio (the headphone socket had worn away). So she decided to throw out both the headphones and the player...

Or the computer with a broken video card - the maintenance company send a technician to replace the entire computer: desktop, keyboard, mouse and monitor.

My personal gripe is with headphones - usually it's the wire that goes first, while the speakers are working perfectly. Unfortunately, because it's a once piece component, I have to throw everything out. However, if the headphones had a socket for the wire (and the wire then became a patch cable), then I could just replace the wire.

News? (0)

dcw3 (649211) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301515)

Come on, it's a couple days old already. Ok, I'm expecting to the the obligatory "you're new here, aren't you" response.

Re:News? (3, Funny)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302142)

When I first read this article on /. I was about to make a post "uhm hasn't this already been posted on /. before?" Then I realized I had read it on CNN one or two days ago...

I'd have to say... (1)

whitetiger0990 (852580) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301523)

Congratulations!

"plastic bags, cardboard and duct tape"
I shall go nowhere without them.

Re:I'd have to say... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301575)

No need to wonder why you never get laid.

A couple days late? (1)

hydroxy (863799) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301538)

This was on cnn.com for a while http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/04/19/apollo13. engineers.ap/index.html That aside - they did do a damn nice job bringing Apollo 13 back to earth.

do they deserve it? (1)

spectrokid (660550) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301539)

sure they did a brilliant job duct-tapeing the pieces, but a really brilliant engineer would have a.o. forced all subcontractors to use the same type of scrubber....

The 13th hour of the 13th day of the 13th mission? (-1, Troll)

Truth_Quark (219407) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301544)

Come on people, no one believes that!

The whole thing was clearly faked for the publicity and for NASA to con a few extra bazillion dallars out of the Federal Government, by hiring script writers, faking some photographs, making some beeping noises and some flashing led effects, then whipping off to the pub with the difference.

See this link and scroll down to the Apollo 13 section http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html [ufos-aliens.co.uk]

Honouring these con men at this time, when China is planning the world's first manned mission to the moon is pure sour grapes.
GlobalSpec: you should be ashamed of yourselves!

Re:The 13th hour of the 13th day of the 13th missi (1)

Redrover5545 (795810) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301759)

In times like these, where we, the public, have lost faith in our news institutions after RatherGate and Fox News, I'm thankfull that we can still trust respected and sensible journalism sites like http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/ [ufos-aliens.co.uk] www.ufos-aliens.co.uk for our news and information.

35 years to honour people who saved others (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301546)

2 years to honour the people who bungled the iraq planning.No wonder the US is a joke nation now.

Wrong people awarded (0)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301551)

This award should be given to MacGuyver - we know it was really him who did this.

IN all honesty, this is geekdom at it's finest!

Re:Wrong people awarded (-1, Offtopic)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302153)

Whats with all the Overrated mods I get? It's like almost every post I make that gets a positive mod is countered by someone with an Overrated...is this like the new hip mod? Sheesh - just cause you don't think my shit's funny doesn't mean its overrated when someone else does.

The term is jerry rig (1, Interesting)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301553)

Jury rig is something a mafia don on trial gets away with.

Jerry rig comes to us from World War II. The Germans were known amongst the allies, ever quick and able with a good racial nickname, as "Jerry". Toward the end of the war, with German industrial productivity crushed and little supplies available, the Germans had to improvise with scraps of whatever they could scrounge. Somehow, mostly by sheer guts, they managed to keep on fighting with their jerry-rigged junk.

Re:The term is jerry rig (2, Informative)

Silver Sloth (770927) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301578)

From dictionary.com (and my childhood)

jury-rig (jr-rg) tr.v. jury-rigged, jury-rigging, jury-rigs

To rig or assemble for temporary emergency use; improvise: The survivors of the wreck jury-rigged some fishing gear.

Re:The term is jerry rig (2, Informative)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301619)

It's a common corruption of the term. GIs weren't always known for their spelling prowess.

Incidently, Google returns 173,000 hits for "jerry rig", while coming up with only 109,000 for "jury rig".

Re:The term is jerry rig (2, Informative)

Silver Sloth (770927) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301692)

But the term is far older than WWII. It was in common usage in the British navy in the 1700s. One posible origin is the old Frence 'ajurie' - to help.

Sorry - you're WWII origin is an urban myth.

Re:The term is jerry rig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12302150)

I think you mean urban legend.

no, it's "jury rig" check wikipedia (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12302321)

When in doubt, check wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rigged [slashdot.org]
On sailing ships, the jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of loss of the original mast. The term "jury" is believed (Skeat) to have its source in a Latin and Old French root meaning "aid" or "succour".

Although ships were observed to perform reasonably well under jury rig, the rig was quite a bit weaker than the original, and the ship's first priority was normally to steer for the nearest friendly port and acquire replacement masts. The term "jury-rigged" has since passed into general usage, denoting some improvised substitute was employed temporarily or in an emergency.

All I can say is: - (0)

Phidoux (705500) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301582)

Thank God I'm not an astronaut.

Houston We('ve) ha(d/ve) a problem? (5, Interesting)

McFadden (809368) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301596)

What I found most interesting from the Yahoo! article was the "Houston we've had a problem" quote. Assuming the journalist has done his homework (and a quick Google search would indicate that he probably has), it's interesting that the phrase "Houston we have a problem" seems to be the one that has entered the public consciousness (or at least amongst the crowd that I hang out with).

As for which was uttered on Apollo 13, I think the latter phrase is the one that accompanied the eponymous movie about the troubled flight (IMDB confirms this) and so has become more well known amongst a certain generation than the original.

As someone who used to teach English, hats off to Swigert, who in his moment of crisis used the more appropriate present perfect tense (have + past participle) to suggest an incident that happened in the (recent) past but is still (extremely) relevant now.

Sorry.... I really should get out more.

McF

Re:Houston We('ve) ha(d/ve) a problem? (5, Informative)

peshewa (830734) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302240)

From the actual air-to-ground transcript: [nasa.gov]

02 07 53 12 CMP Okay. Stand by.
02 07 55 19 LMP Okay, Houston - -
02 07 55 20 CDR I believe we've had a problem here.
02 07 55 28 CC This is Houston. Say again, please.
02 07 55 35 CDR Houston, we've had a problem. We've had a MAIN B BUS UNDERVOLT.
02 07 55 42 CC Roger. MAIN B UNDERVOLT.

Remember! (1)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301601)

Duct Tape for an Engineer is like the Dark Side for a Jedi Knight!

Re:Remember! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301711)

It's a lot of fun to use it, but not always the most elegant solution.

Ob. QDB ref (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301626)

<zx64> ducktape is merely a physical manifestation of regexps

http://www.bash.org/?11397 [bash.org]

Re:Ob. QDB ref (2, Insightful)

telecsan (170227) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302022)

Duct Tape can be used for all sorts of neat things... duck tape, otoh, should only be used on Ducks. Well, I guess I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader.

How about we honor them... (2, Funny)

DaGoodBoy (8080) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301651)

...by putting the engineering plans and documentation [space.com] on the Internet! Then we can build some and make a Beowulf cluster... oh wait.

DaGoodBoy

What about the engineer... (2, Funny)

ch-chuck (9622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301656)

who put the 12 volt oxygen tank heater in a 72 volt circuit? I'd like to know what happened to that guy ;)

Re:What about the engineer... (1)

Mercano (826132) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302107)

The problem is the oxygen tank was made by a sub-subcontractor. NASA's original CSM specs called for 12 volt electrics. They latter changed the specs to a higher voltage, and informed North American. The problem is North American never told the folks making the O2 tanks, so they only built with 12 volts in mind.

I was the film but can't remember (3, Interesting)

jago25_98 (566531) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301717)

Guess it was a while ago but I can't remember how they did it. That's Tom Hanks for you.

As a result here's my executive summary:

- oxygen tank exploded
- 2 of 3 fuel cells lost
"Houston, we've had a problem."

- Ed Smylie, engineer at home watching TV disaster rushes into the centre
- O2 buildup fixable with lithium hydroxide canisters to help CO2 buildup...
but some of the backup square canisters were not compatible with the round openings in the lunar module

"If you saw the movie (`Apollo 13'), it wasn't like that," Smylie said, adding there wasn't any hollering and screaming. "Everything is pretty calm, cool and collected in our business."

- used duck-tape to convert the backup square canisters to fit the round lunar module fittings

- this allowed the astronauts to breath just that little bit longer

Long Overdue... (3, Interesting)

IdJit (78604) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301778)

These guys deserved special recognition decades ago. What they did for those guys up there was nothing short of remarkable, especially in a highly dangerous environment such as space, and most remarkably with the fledgling technology they had available.

Kudos to the often-uncelebrated ground crew and their determination to get Lovell and crew back safely.

once again.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12301843)

slashdot editors are posting cutting edge 0 day stories.

way to go guys. read this on cnn LAST WEEK

coverage of something? you guys don't cover anything! when are you going to get it thru your thick heads you are not editors, you are regurgitators? you need REPORTERS actually COVERING stories to be editors!

It was a saint (2, Funny)

notherenow (860367) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301845)

A saint in India saved these guys. Without Him, there would have been no return. Ask them, they will tell you that at their worst moment, they suddenly saw things clearer, and were able to work without illusion... ask them

Re:It was a saint (1)

gaylenek (456348) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302262)

I don't have mod points our I'd give you -1, a saint indeed.

The fumes are getting to you.

What about the... (2, Interesting)

dayid (802168) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301957)

Ahem, what about the Central Floridian Middle-School Teacher who took out his astronomy class to chart stars, and found out that if NASA had "fired the thrusters" at the time they had planned to - because they had charted the moon's alignment improperly - would've completely missed the mood and sent these guys spinning out into the middle of no where?

I mean, I figured when the movie came out that no one was going to mention that little "goof up" that NASA had - you know, it's not all good having your measurements and projections corrected by some teacher and his students from a junior high school while they're out stargazing with whatever telescopes their money could buy them - but I would love to see this at least mentioned somewhere.

They each got a certificate and I think even perhaps a hand-shake.

Ah, the little forgotten unsung heros of history.

P.S. Yes, I do rant about this everytime anything with Apollo 13 comes up in conversation.

Re:What about the... (1)

Bucky_the_AV_Guy (806881) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302100)

There were quite a few of these unsung heros. I remember another story about a group of researchers at the University of Toronto who were contacted by Grumman to determine the conditions needed to allow for the explosives to be set in order to separate the lunar module and the command module. The funny part about this story is that the team at UofT simply thought they were one of several teams working on this problem and that NASA was looking for consensus on the parameters. It turns out they were the only ones working on the problem and their recommendations were what was going to be used.....

http://www.news.utoronto.ca/bin/gopher/Aug21-95/ne ws.htm [utoronto.ca]

Its obvious... (3, Funny)

DeathByDuke (823199) | more than 9 years ago | (#12301977)

...the Apollo engineers had been watching too much MacGyver.

A Top Ten Geek Movie (4, Interesting)

theonetruekeebler (60888) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302051)

Apollo 13 [imdb.com] is easily one of the ten best geek movies out there. I really and truly admired the engineers the film portrayed---they were clever and resourceful, kluging up a solution to a life-threatening problem tens of thousands of miles away.

The reason this is such a wonderful geek film is that there is no bad guy. No evil to overcome. It's not even man versus nature. It's man versus The Problem, and man, brandishing a slide rule and some duct tape, triumphs.

Trajectory calculations (1)

Lucas Membrane (524640) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302103)

They should honor the guy who did those. He did not work at NASA when Apollo 13 happened. He had worked for them about five years previous as some kind of student intern or something. He figured out stuff like that and put it in the file. When they had a sudden need, they pulled the plan out, and it was good to go.

Lesson learned here... (1)

It doesn't come easy (695416) | more than 9 years ago | (#12302244)

Duct Tape -- never leave home without it.
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