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Mac OS X Tiger Accidentally Shipped Early

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the ooops-hey-this-is-shiny dept.

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boarder8925 writes "Engadget reports: 'In many places around the world, Mac fans and Apple distributors received a shipment they weren't quite expecting: Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger arrived at the door a full eight days ahead of schedule for some lucky folks who pre-ordered. Vendors PCMall/MacMall and ClubMac gave pre-order customers a treat by unleashing the OS ahead of schedule, quickly followed up by a 'recall' of the copies from PCMall.'"

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Oh come on... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12330971)

They're telling customers the Tiger copies that shipped out early will not be supported by Apple, and that users will have to return the boxes and get new copies shipped next week
What a bunch of jerks, they should just suck it up and admit they dropped the ball. There is no way that this boxed up and shipped version is going to be any different then the one they send a few days from now.

ebay... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331002)

why do you care if its supported by apple? just sell your version on ebay and have enough money to buy hundreds of new versions in a week...

Re:Oh come on... (5, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331035)

Hey this is Apple, clearly this is a new and innovative shipping concept, designed to be aesthetically plesing to the user.

Re:Oh come on... (4, Interesting)

Michalson (638911) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331152)

Don't joke about that. I've seen a review of Office for Mac where the guy used most of the time to go on and on about how the cardboard box the product came in wasn't as good as the previous versions packaging.

Re:Oh come on... (5, Insightful)

TWX (665546) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331036)

I've got one better...

If I were a customer, I'd insist that they ship me the supposedly legitimate one and pay for my return postage before they get the other one back, seeing as how it was their mistake, not mine, and that I should not be liable for their cockup. If they want it right, they have to do the work to make it right, not me. If they won't support the product then the credit card company gets called and the charge is revoked, as I as a consumer haven't been given what I've paid for.

Re:Oh come on... (2, Interesting)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331089)

If I were a customer, I'd insist that they ship me the supposedly legitimate one and pay for my return postage before they get the other one back, seeing as how it was their mistake, not mine, and that I should not be liable for their cockup. If they want it right, they have to do the work to make it right, not me. If they won't support the product then the credit card company gets called and the charge is revoked, as I as a consumer haven't been given what I've paid for.

I'd have to imagine Apple's arranging for pickups. Otherwise, I'd tell them they can take my word for it that I destroyed the disc. I don't think they have any legal recourse anyway (as you point out).

Although as a prior poster pointed out...EBAY! Though I bet that auction gets cancelled.

Re:Oh come on... (4, Informative)

NormalVisual (565491) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331248)

I wouldn't even worry about it. If you're shipped an illegitimate version, then that's not the item you ordered. Under Federal law you have no duty to return an item you didn't order, and the supplier is still on the hook to deliver the merchandise you've already paid for.

If they want to be jerks about it, then do as you mentioned and dispute the charge. If Apple does in fact figure out some way to identify and exclude the early users from the support they're owed, they'd best make sure those people get a totally legitimate copy. Otherwise, they just grabbed the biggest shovel in the shed to dig a very public hole around themselves.

Re:Oh come on... (1)

realitybath1 (837263) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331144)

company statements like that make me want to start a site called PRassoftheday.com

It really boggles the mind that somebody at a company can release statements like that and actually think that it doesn't make their company look like total fucktards.

Anyways, I wonder what pr speak for 'whiney-sucky-fit' is?

Better yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331165)

Keep it, install it, wait a few days after launch and say it hasn't come. Then when the next one comes give it to a friend. F**k you Apple!!

Re:Oh come on... (1)

DenDave (700621) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331195)

you've got to be kidding... someone inside is fucking them up.. haven't checked my mail but the status of my order is still not sent..

201 new features (5, Funny)

ehack (115197) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330973)

Feature 201: It's early !

Re:201 new features (1)

Janitha (817744) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331056)

Ha, at least its not late.

Re:201 new features (1)

Gertlex (722812) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331162)

And just like real Tigers, the owners could be in trouble if it escapes early...

who would return it? (5, Funny)

jshaw001 (857478) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330975)

I just want to know who were the people that returned the copies, so I can laugh at them. somethign like that.

Re:who would return it? (2, Insightful)

CSMastermind (847625) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330985)

Do they get them back a week if they return them? Really I mean it's a week. Good for them. How much damage can a week early release do?

Re:who would return it? (2, Insightful)

CarlinWithers (861335) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331203)

If anything, this just adds to the hype. Which is good for Apple.

(See the guy down below who got a copy and is posting how great it is)

Re:who would return it? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331004)

Forgive them, they are mac users.

Amazing true fact (5, Funny)

SYFer (617415) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330977)

If you are located within 50 miles of Cupertino and listen very carefully (I actually had to turn off my computer to cut the fan noise), you can actually hear Steve Jobs yelling!

Re:Amazing true fact (2, Funny)

Tellarin (444097) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331009)

Yes, just like Morgoth, the scream will be heard forever in the area. :)

I call shenanigans (3, Funny)

StarManta.Mini (860897) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331082)

No /. reader would turn their computer off longer than it takes to reboot.

Re:Amazing true fact (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331098)

I have a G5, I didnt need to turn off my computer

Re:Amazing true fact (4, Funny)

UWC (664779) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331136)

I have a G5, I didnt need to turn off my computer

Does it make the screaming noise for you or something?

Re:Amazing true fact (2, Funny)

TuringTest (533084) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331188)

Does it make the screaming noise for you or something?

Only after you upgrade it with Tiger

And there's another surprise... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12330979)

...no one's going to listen to the "recall."

Of all the times to live in (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12330981)

The US..
Oh-and Frist Psot!

But Longhorn will average it out (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12330982)

But Microsoft will ship Longhorn...oh...just a wee bit late, so on average...the world is OK

Re:But Longhorn will average it out (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331001)

Well if Longhorn shipped 8 days early I would live in fear for those 8 days. With no autoupdate who knows what terrible exploits would surface in 8 days...

Old News? (1)

NoodleSlayer (603762) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330983)

Isn't this old news... Like happened at least three or so days ago.

Either way, I'm sure they're going to get one of Steve's Armani boots lodged up their ass.

Re:Old News? (4, Informative)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331024)

Three days old is now "old news"? I'm not sure you understand how Slashdot works. The editors don't break stories, they repost stories and the users comment on it.

Oh, and Steve wears New Balance shoes.

Old News?-Breakup. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331081)

"The editors don't break stories, they repost stories and the users comment on it. "

Oh they break them. Sometimes into little pieces.

Re:Old News? (2, Insightful)

ShyGuy91284 (701108) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331202)

True we don't do breaking news. I recall a story in the past year about a "computer/cat maintenence guide" that linked to a page that hadn't been modified since 02. Some commented how old it was, but was new to me, and a lot of the other readers.

I wonder... (0, Redundant)

0x461FAB0BD7D2 (812236) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330984)

while they sue themselves for leaking Tiger? Sunny must be pissed as hell right now.

My mac is fanless (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12330987)

you insensitive PC power drainer.

Torrent (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12330989)

Torrent please

here it is: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331163)

http://www.thepiratebay.org/download.php/3319455/0 4.17.05.Mac.OS.X.10.4.Tiger-XiSO.torrent

Apple cut piracy on Tiger (1)

Espectr0 (577637) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331236)

Apple only will sell Tiger on DVD. If you want it on CD, you have to send your dvd copy and pay an extra 10$ for them to send you cd's.

The torrent copy can't be burned on toaster, you need to use Disk Utility and have a DVD burner, so this means most people with only 1 mac machine and no dvd burner can't install tiger.

So this cuts piracy, i don't know how much, but maybe over half of the potencial user base.

Other early resellers... (5, Informative)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330991)

At least one [thepiratebay.com] other "reseller" has received legal threats [thepiratebay.org] , but apparently they think they are immune [thepiratebay.org] .

Re:Other early resellers... (4, Funny)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331059)

Whats amusing about this legal threat is at the bottom it states
This message and any attached documents contain information from the law firm of OMelveny & Myers LLP that may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute, or use this information.
Now for the love of god ... Who puts a warning about not being aloud to read something at the bottom .. you know the bit you um read last .

Re:Other early resellers... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331074)

Eeek , TypO .. Aloud should be allowed.. Sorry bout that I was typing this whilst thinking about something else
Fcat

Re:Other early resellers... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331232)

Aloud should be allowed.. Sorry bout that I was typing this whilst thinking about something else

Just thinking about it or saying it allowed?

Re:Other early resellers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331237)

Actually, this is very common and an accepted practice in the legal community. There's been an ongoing debate concerning the legitimacy of the notice and where it's placed in the email.

Many law firms have a standard, i.e. written in the employee manual, that a paragraph of text such as this be placed on every email ... worse yet, there are many firms that place the text on the bottom of the email for you.

Re:Other early resellers... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331069)

Reseller? The Apple letter was asking them to take down a BitTorrent tracker. And you are talking about a site called "The Pirate Bay".

This is not reselling, this is copyright infringement.

Re:Other early resellers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331110)

it's a bird! it's a plane!

no!

it's a joke! flying far far above your head.

Re:Other early resellers... (1, Troll)

Microlith (54737) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331086)

I really would like to see the guys behind thepiratebay get taken to court and lose. Someone needs to hurry up and do it.

They're truly assholes like no other. Arrogant to no end, they think they're untouchable or something special that they can assist in copyright violation without getting in trouble.

It's called hubris, people. And it's likely they won't see the edge before the fall.

Re:Other early resellers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331121)

Somebody just told everyone they use Windows...

cause I sense no Linux-vibes (you know, "rtfm n00b") in the parent post.

Re:Other early resellers... (3, Insightful)

rylin (688457) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331138)

It's perfectly legal (currently) to download music etc.
While it isn't legal to distribute copyrighted material without a license to do so, I'm not sure that "bits and pieces" of protected work are protected.

What you're actually saying is that people who do not spread copyrighted material, do not do anything illegal - should be convicted of crime.

You're the real asshole in this story.
Arrogant to no end, you seem to think that your "moral high-ground" allows you to slander the laws of a country currently being supportive of the digital lifestyle.

I eagerly await your response, along with a -1 moderation.

Re:Other early resellers... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331143)

"Arrogant to no end"

It is arrogant for some American companies trying to enfore American laws in foreign countries... .

Re:Other early resellers... (1)

realitybath1 (837263) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331210)

Even if what they are doing is illegal, unethical, etcetc, I'd like to see them given a special license allowing them to break specific laws just so that I can read the gem letters and emails that they send to lawyers.

The only time I've been to the piratebay is when people post their responses to legal letters, but that alone justifies their presence to me.

Re:Other early resellers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331253)

Microslith sigged:

(\_/)
(O.o) (> <)

You bastard, WHAT have you done to that bunny????

Re:Other early resellers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331127)

You forgot to quote the best part :

We demand that you provide us with entertainment by sending more legal threats. Please?

and

Instead of simply recommending that you sodomize yourself with a retractable baton, let me recommend a specific model - the ASP 21". The previous lawyers tried to use a cheaper brand, but it broke during the action.

Re:Other early resellers... (3, Insightful)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331132)

Ok responding to the same thing twice , bad show i know but i had another thought .
first off I do not support what Thepiratebay is doing , but i have a problem with apples lawyer.
First off you do not send a legal threat to a sweedish site citing US law.
Second if your going to send a legal threat for the love of god do it in the right language , as sending it in english can cause problems .

Apple need to have a word with their lawyer about this as it is bad practice .
Other than that , apple do have good cause to be angry at this site ..

However i do not yet know if bittorent sites can in all sanity be proesecuted for any breach , as First they are only holding information pertaining to the download IE: the torrent(not any copyright material) and in civil cases i don't think you can be prosecuted for such things(obviously very difrent in criminal law) in most european countrys.

Re:Other early resellers... (1)

Khuffie (818093) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331192)

hmm. what's interesting is the wording of that threat pretty much seems to legitimize trading of officially released Apple products. They keep on mensioning that Apple protects its trade secrets and unreleased software, and I haven't heard em suing people for hosting torrents of Panther...

It's ok (4, Funny)

Realistic_Dragon (655151) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330993)

It turns out that ut's not an 8 day early copy of OS X, it's a 1 year 8 day early copy of Longhorn.

1 year, 8 weeks and 8 days early copy (1)

phsdv (596873) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331238)

And you think Longhorn will by on time???? It will be (at least) 8 weeks late. So: 1 year, 8 weeks and 8 days early copy!

Apple Beat Microsoft to to the 64 bit desktop! (3, Informative)

Your Average Joe (303066) | more than 9 years ago | (#12330998)

What a shame, with all that money and R&D and little old Apple beat MS to the punchline. Now Windows is the last desktop OS that is 64 bit...

Our 64 bit Windows OS Just Works, barely

Makes me want to cry...

Unfortunately... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331102)

Unfortunately Apple OS X doesn't support 587 different system types. It only supports... 4.
So yea, wow.

Re:Apple Beat Microsoft to to the 64 bit desktop! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331112)


Microsoft is always last. Just look at their history.

Re:Apple Beat Microsoft to to the 64 bit desktop! (3, Informative)

nxtw (866177) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331131)

Tiger is not completely 64-bit.

Also, Windows was 64-bit before Apple ever was -- remember Itanium?

Re:Apple Beat Microsoft to to the 64 bit desktop! (3, Insightful)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331198)

I think this was gone over in the "It Just Works" story.

Microsoft R&D may be great stuff, but it doesn't make it into the products, because the suits are afraid of not making money.

So... (1)

netsphinx (619340) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331000)

The cat is out of the bag? And if you are so anxious to open your copy and install it, your curiousity will have killed it? Sheesh.

Does this mean... (2, Funny)

ArAgost (853804) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331005)

...that Longhorn will be out earlier than expected? Cool!

Re:Does this mean... (1)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331029)

Yes , ETA has been pushed forward till when the cows come home.

No idea how it works in that industry, but... (5, Interesting)

LewsTherinKinslayer (817418) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331012)

I used to work at a video game retailing store, and we used to get shipments of products in well before their offical release date. They would be in plain brown unmarked boxes that would have red tape on them with the offical release date on it. Anyone who even openned the boxes early could be fired. We had Halo 2 the day before the release, and believe me, it would have been nice to start calling up the preorder people and telling them to come get it.

Anyways, my point is, doesn't Apple (or other software companies,) have a similar policy regarding the release of their product and preorders? If not, perhaps they should.

Re:No idea how it works in that industry, but... (4, Funny)

hazem (472289) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331142)

Anyways, my point is, doesn't Apple (or other software companies,) have a similar policy regarding the release of their product and preorders? If not, perhaps they should.

I think the issue is that no OS companies are USED to shipping early. It's a contingency they're not prepared to deal with!

Re:No idea how it works in that industry, but... (4, Interesting)

pla (258480) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331150)

Anyone who even openned the boxes early could be fired.

Perhaps only tangentially related, but I've found that some stores very regularly start selling products before their official release. One that immediately comes to mind, Blockbuster usually starts renting movies about a week before the actual release on DVD.

I wonder, do these "release dates" actually have any legal teeth behind them? Obviously a distributor could refuse to sell anything to those stores that don't cooperate, but such a threat against companies like Blockbuster or WallyWorld amount to cutting off their nose to spite their face - WallyWorld might just respond with "okay, bye", instantly halving the available market for that product.

Re:No idea how it works in that industry, but... (1)

salimma (115327) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331178)

You could rent from Blockbuster before the DVD is officially released, but could you actually buy the DVD?

Re:No idea how it works in that industry, but... (2, Interesting)

LewsTherinKinslayer (817418) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331241)

I wonder, do these "release dates" actually have any legal teeth behind them?

I'm not sure as far as Blockbuster and Hollywood Video and the like. I'd say there's a good chance agreements were made with the producer for allowing to be rented earlier than bought.

However, I do know that in the game industry, they do indeed have teeth. Bungie made all the companies that were going to sell Halo 2 agree to the offical release date. (Known as Street Dating; you can't even display the product until the Street Date.) If you failed to follow the instructions, they reserved the right to sue your company for each copy sold early. I believe a game store somewhere in the Mid-West was sued thirty thousand dollars PER copy.

Marketing (2, Insightful)

Johnboi Waltune (462501) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331013)

Eh, they release Tiger to a few Mac zealots who early-ordered it, they tell their friends, it gets into the news, creating a marketing buzz... nothing to see here.

build number (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331016)

anyone here got a official copy? i've been wondering for ages what the final build would be?

Re:build number (0)

ehack (115197) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331075)

425

Re:build number (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331133)

Actually, it's 8008135

Re:build number (4, Informative)

outZider (165286) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331173)

8a428.

Maybe... (5, Funny)

SnowCrashed (778322) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331026)

Maybe Microsoft could have something that closely resembles this feature in Longhorn =)

Re:Maybe... (1)

ShyGuy91284 (701108) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331222)

Already been partially implemented w/ the various Longhorn alpha leaks on the net.

How Startling! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331031)

A Mac fucked up! How unique? That *never* has happened before....

Amazon's not incompetent (1)

Rick Zeman (15628) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331033)

Too bad Amazon's not incompetent like the *.Malls were and they'd shipped my family pack ($150 after rebate). Did full backups this weekend in anticipation, though I've never (knock on Titanium) had an Apple upgrade go badly (NT4->Win2k a whole 'nother story.)

Well, that spoiled the buildup. (5, Funny)

zapfie (560589) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331034)

So.. this must be how my girlfriend feels when I.. uh.. arrive ahead of schedule. :|

Re:Well, that spoiled the buildup. (4, Funny)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331184)

Hey , for a simmilar reason the ladies call me Longhorn ,First time ever that I don't mind being compared to an MS product.

YES!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331037)

It's THAT fast !

This was a mistake?! (5, Interesting)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331054)

I'm one of those lucky persons who received Tiger early. Actually, I didn't know that I wasn't supposed to receive it. Heck, I pre-ordered, so I thought the April 28 date was just the final date, when it was guaranteed to be available at any location.

Anyway, I installed it already, and oh man, it is everything I thought it was going to be. Actually, those ten improvements (Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator, etc.) that everyone's talking about are all pretty cool, but the OS really is significantly faster and smoother than 10.3.x. And a lot cool stuff is changed under the surface. Check the man page for cp, etc., and you'll see what I mean.

I have to say, I really am impressed with this release. Every previous upgrade has been a big surprise and a big improvement, and I was skeptical that Tiger would be anything to jump up and down over, but I really have to say that I've been pleasantly surprised with this one.

And no, I'm not sending it back!

Re:This was a mistake?! (2, Funny)

python_kiss (876709) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331068)

QUICK! Sell it on E-BAY!

Re:This was a mistake?! (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331200)

And don't let the auction timeout after 10 days!

Re:This was a mistake?! (1)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331088)

Since many of us don't own Macs could you explain what the difference in the cp man page is?

Re:This was a mistake?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331231)

He's probably referring to the fact that the Unix utilities that deal with files (cp, ditto, rsync, etc.) now transparently handle files with resource forks.

Previously, you needed a separate program CpMac, RsyncX) to do that, or had to specify that you wanted it done in the apps that supported it ("ditto -rsrcFork").

Re:This was a mistake?! (3, Funny)

MasonMcD (104041) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331168)

Anyway, I installed it already, and oh man, it is everything I thought it was going to be. Actually, those ten improvements (Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator, etc.) that everyone's talking about are all pretty cool, but the OS really is significantly faster and smoother than 10.3.x. And a lot cool stuff is changed under the surface. Check the man page for cp, etc., and you'll see what I mean.

Don't forget the levitation thing tha... oops. Nevermind. Just got my C&D letter.

Re:This was a mistake?! (1)

UWC (664779) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331194)

Out of curiosity, what kind of Mac do you have? You mention the speed increase, and I was just wondering if I should add that into my considerations for buying it for my Mac mini (G4, of course, with 32MB Radeon 9000 Mobility, and recently stuck in 512MB of PC3200 RAM).

Re:This was a mistake?! (1)

Deanasc (201050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331217)

Could you elaborate a little more? What system are you running it on? Memory size? Processor? Has anything slowed down, ie boot time, startup for individual titles etc.?

Maybe? (2, Informative)

CypherXero (798440) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331066)

Maybe they shipped it out early, so that the store shelves would all be stocked by the time the release date came. I don't think they were supposed to open the box, and start selling the copies as soon as they recieved it.

We've had Tiger for months (4, Interesting)

Lapsed Catholic (875641) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331085)

...where I work. We get prerelease CDs from Apple regularly and we send back bug reports regarding their JVM. We always make sure to destroy the CDs by the proper dates. I suppose we should be more careful with them to avoid turning into a Slashdot story like this one.

Most of the stupid JVM bugs specific to OSX that we run into aren't reproducible on the machine running Tiger. Java seems to be really improved in this release.

mod u4 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331099)

corpse turned 0ver

Some vendors were in a hurry ? (2, Informative)

skahshah (603640) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331100)

When they annouced the release for the end of the month I called my retailer to secure a copy. He told me he would have it the following week, and that I could come and see a demonstration, but that he wouldn't sell any copy before the 29, having signed an embargo contract with Apple. I will have mine in 5 days.

Inside 10.4 (2, Interesting)

Uneasysilence (784183) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331111)

LINK [uneasysilence.com] to welcome video. LINK [uneasysilence.com] to RSS screensaver in OSX

Re:Inside 10.4 (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331182)

Allow me to be the first to say "HOLY FLYING SHIT THAT SCREENSAVER LOOKS COOL". That will be all. Scheduled programming will now resume...

Question (4, Interesting)

thesupermikey (220055) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331155)

Does anyone know if computers order from apple before next firday come with 10.4 installed?

or does one have to wait to the release date for new macs do have 10.4?

Re:Question (1)

yroJJory (559141) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331199)

I would doubt that it'll be pre-installed. It is likely that any computer shipping from the 29th and on will come with a Tiger DVD for install. It'll probably be several weeks before you see Tiger pre-installed.

No worries... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12331158)

Duke Nukem Forever will average everything out when it finally goes gold.

So sick of release dates (3, Insightful)

Mean_Nishka (543399) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331201)

What's the point of release dates anyhow?
With digital distribution now finally catching on, it would be in the best interest of most companies to release when it's done.. I'd much prefer to download a (legal) burnable disc image than have to wait for a box to show up.
IMHO much piracy is due to impatient souls who simply can't wait for the release. Music is a great exmaple of this. I say when it goes gold, release it. Many of these downloaders would probably pay for it.

So does that mean (1)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331207)

I can finally run Software Update?

:P

CATastrophe (1)

dotslashdot (694478) | more than 9 years ago | (#12331251)

Cat's out of the bag. I wouldn't return MEOW copy. I had a FELINE this was going to happen. I bet Apple is CATegorically CATatonic with this CATaclysmic CATastrophe.
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