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Kevin Smith Previews Revenge of the Sith

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the do-or-do-not-there-is-no-try dept.

Star Wars Prequels 621

Eugenia writes "Kevin Smith, the well-known actor/director, was invited by George Lucas to a special advanced screening of the upcoming 'Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith' film and he wrote down his take on the movie. There are some serious spoilers in his article but it's interesting to see his reaction, as a director and Star Wars fan."

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His biggest problem with the film (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374248)

Is that Lucas serves his popcorn without butter. I mean... what the hell?

Re:His biggest problem with the film (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374477)

Yeah, but at least you can put nutritional yeast on it...

READ IT!!! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374252)

If you didn't want to read the review..

I would. It starts:

"Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome."

Re:READ IT!!! (2, Funny)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374391)

You are the C.L.I.T. commander!

Re:READ IT!!! (1, Interesting)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374406)

I've expected this movie to be pretty good. Lucas knew what stories he wanted to tell when he first wrote Star Wars, and he started with what he thought was the most exciting one. It was clear, since he started on this trilogy, that the real story he wanted to tell was Anakin going over to the dark side. The other two films were really just setting us up for this one -- he told them because they filled in the background for this movie, the one he wanted to make.

So it seemed to me this is the only one in the prequal trilogy he really wanted to make, and he's been working up to it. When he's excited about a story, Lucas does great. When he's just creating fillter (or, as in Return of the Jedi, tying up loose ends) -- that's when he's weak.

Re:READ IT!!! (0, Offtopic)

dfn5 (524972) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374421)

"Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome."

Thank you for spoiling it for me. I guess I don't need to give my money to Lucas now.

Re:READ IT!!! (2, Informative)

s20451 (410424) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374490)

And it ends with "Look, this is a movie I was genetically predisposed to love." Not really an objective review. But worth reading nonetheless.

Spoiler (4, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374254)

Anakin becomes Darth Vader! (GASP)

Re:Spoiler (1)

chucks86 (799149) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374319)

Damn, now I don't have a movie to go to tomorrow night.

Re:Spoiler (2, Informative)

thatnerdguy (551590) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374375)

Where exactly were you going to see it tomorrow night? tomorrow's h2g2 night anyways

Re:Spoiler (1)

chucks86 (799149) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374464)

Word was that the movie was going to be at my favorite theater either this or next week. I guess I was misinformed, though because I don't even see notice of "online release".

H2G2? Is that some sort of new SUV or something?

Re:Spoiler (3, Funny)

JWW (79176) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374496)

Yeah, its not coming out tommorow, so Don't Panic.

Re:Spoiler (2, Funny)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374438)

Wow, what an ending! Who would have thought Han Solo was Luke Skywalker's half-brother.

Re:Spoiler (4, Funny)

keraneuology (760918) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374501)

Alternate ending: Luke's brother is Chewbacca...

Re:Spoiler (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374480)

Another spoiler:

Anakin Force-chokes [photobucket.com] Padme to death [photobucket.com] before his lightsaber duel with Obi-Wan.

Reading the book... (1)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374525)

The other day I saw someone reading the book of Revenge Of The Sith. If you're that much a fan of the Star Wars universe that you'll buy a hardback copy of a movie story why would you spoil the movie for yourself by reading about every single thing that happens in it?

I mean, if it was originally a book and then a movie then, of course, read the book first then go see the movie (although in the case of The Bourne Identity and The Bourne Supremacy, not having read the books before hand makes your enjoyment of the movies that much better - read the books first and the movies will only frustrate you) but when it's a movie first then a book go see the movie first. Enjoy the story in its original media first, then (try to) enjoy the adaptations that follow.

Re:Spoiler - Han Shoots First explained. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374556)

They also revealed that Luke and Leia's kid (remember their kiss), turned into a bad guy in a similar way that Anakin did; and this kid decided to whitewash history; and had all the records changed that reflected poorly on his daddy's friends. In that editing of history, Han's history was changed.

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374257)

FP

Re:FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374443)

It's a 20 second delay, not a 200 second delay.

Duh!

First Jedi mind trick (3, Funny)

worst_name_ever (633374) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374258)

This is not the story you're looking for. Move along.

Didn't we see this already (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374259)

Didn't we see this astroturfing "reviews" when the latest episode came out? It was supposed to the best episode ever and when I went to see it, it was fucking crap aimed at 13-year old.

Re:Didn't we see this already (2, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374540)

Didn't we see this astroturfing "reviews" when the latest episode came out? It was supposed to the best episode ever and when I went to see it, it was fucking crap aimed at 13-year old.

Well, based upon what you're likely to see if you go to this film, you'll see what depths Anakin and Palpatine sink for evil. I mean, this isn't rub your hands and cackle maniacally evil, this is turn on anyone and everyone to settle your scores, while having your strings pulled by a Mighty Evil Master(TM) evil. Darth Vader is supposed to be sinister and all we've really seen up to this point is a kid with some promise, growing up and getting angrier and angrier, sort of like the dark clouds gathering before a good old fashion midwestern thunderstorm which will probably be proceded by some devastating tornadoes. Revenge of the Sith will probably make some people very uneasy and produce some raving reviews 'won't someone please think of the children (yeah, get them GTA:SA instead.)

Sounds like Lucas did a fine job and I'm looking forward to my artery-clogging bucket of popcorn and half gallon of carbonated sugar water while gazing at the screen in total fascination.

Spoiler on the article! (1, Redundant)

Reignking (832642) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374262)

Spoiler! Kevin Smith loved it.

Who is Kevin Smith (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374474)

Is he someone who'se opinion we trust.

In particular, I'm curious what his opinions were about the JarJar episodes.

I don't trust him (5, Funny)

slungsolow (722380) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374266)

I can't trust a review from someone who constantly casts Ben Affleck.

Re:I don't trust him (3, Funny)

mcg1969 (237263) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374288)

Nor one who constantly casts Hayden Christiansen.

Re:I don't trust him (2, Funny)

MooseByte (751829) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374419)

Seriously though, even if RotS is every bit as dark and well-written (and freakin' well-acted please!) as one could hope, am I the only one who is beyond giving a damn?

Looking at the last 2 from Lucas, it would be like having a 3-course meal where the final dish was fantastic but the first 2 gave you projectile-vomiting food poisoning. No real way to salvage the meal.

If I do see it, it'll be the DVD rental. A $5 rental for the entire family is all I'm willing to risk.

Re:I don't trust him (2, Funny)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374460)

He was the bomb in Phantoms.

Re:I don't trust him (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374504)

Werd, Phantoms like a motha fucka

Re:I don't trust him (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374544)

I can't trust someone who liked DareDevil. I mean, come on!

Phantom Edit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374267)

Anyone feel like posting a Spoiler-Free edit?

I just can't bring myself to read it...

Here you go (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374299)

"SITH" SPOILERS

You've been warned...

- "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome.

[Spoilers removed]

"Sith" doesn't happen; "Sith" rules.

Re:Phantom Edit (0, Offtopic)

Trigun (685027) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374304)

Don't worry, Slashdot's taken care of that for you.

Spoiler Free summary? (1)

(54)T-Dub (642521) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374271)

Since I don't like spoilers would someone be interested in reading the article and give me a basic summary (here come the spoilers). It would have been nice if the summary did as much.

Re:Spoiler Free summary? (3, Informative)

mobiux (118006) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374367)

Um, he said it was dark, dark, dark.
1000x darker than Empire.
Way dark.

He also said this is the movie the haters have been waiting for since Phantom.

Re:Spoiler Free summary? (4, Funny)

metlin (258108) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374471)


Somebody should turn up the gamma, then.

Re:Spoiler Free summary? (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374486)

Um, he said it was dark, dark, dark.
1000x darker than Empire.
Way dark.


Is it.... Doom 3 dark?

Sounds like Quake 1... (1)

Richard Steiner (1585) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374510)

Oh wait! That was brown, brown, brown...

Ob. Southpark quote (1)

Swamii (594522) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374543)

Oh wait! That was brown, brown, brown...

Noise, noise, noise...

Re:Spoiler Free summary? (1)

JWW (79176) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374524)

It's like more black than black its so dark.

Sorry....

hard to summerize (1)

eshefer (12336) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374461)

most of the article is spoilers.

basicly: it's very dark. not much fluff - a lot of evil - kevin loved it.

Kevin says..over and over (3, Funny)

cOdEgUru (181536) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374278)

That the movie is dark, Dark, darK, DARK..DARK..DARK!!

I hope it aint so dark as not to see its flaws!

*ducks*

Re:Kevin says..over and over (1)

jmcneill (256391) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374330)

I hope it aint so dark as not to see its flaws!

It must have been based off Doom 3.

Re:Kevin says..over and over (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374332)

I knew the Doom movie wasn't going to have anything to do with...well...Doom, but having to do with Jedi. That's just strange....

What? There's a new Star Wars coming out?? (1)

filesiteguy (695431) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374281)

I thought that the movie was just released.

I hear there are rumors that Anakin turns to the dark side.

Seriously, I think I've been anticipating this one more than I did TPM.


Awesome Review! (1)

Uptown Joe (819388) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374283)

I can't wait to see III.
- Did anyone else instantly think of the "Empire" scene in Clerks when you heard that Kevin Smith wrote the review?

Re:Awesome Review! (1)

Total_Wimp (564548) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374503)

Did anyone else instantly think of the "Empire" scene in Clerks when you heard that Kevin Smith wrote the review?

I pictured Silent Bob doing the Jedi mind trick to get the video tape in Mall Rats. There were others too, but that's the one that flashed through my mind.

TW

Revenge of the Shill! (0)

ABCC (861543) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374290)

this had better not be a rent-a-quote!

Re:Revenge of the Shill! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374408)

Yeah, dude. Kevin Smith needed to make a few bucks and had nothing better to do.

WTF? (1)

AresTheImpaler (570208) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374293)

How hard was to include a sentence saying if it was good or not, so that we dont have to read over the spoilers?

Re:WTF? (4, Insightful)

kettleoffish (822090) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374315)

"Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome." Is the first line of the review really that hard to read?

Slashdotting Clerks-style (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374301)

The poor View Askew web server. I bet it's probably thinking to itself, "I'm not even supposed to be here today."

Re:Slashdotting Clerks-style (1)

Trimbo2 (661670) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374456)

What smells like shoe polish?

Re:Slashdotting Clerks-style (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374475)

But without reading the article, I can tell you Kevin Smith's favorite character:
Chewbacca! Chewie! Oooooooohhhh, what a Wookie!

Re:Slashdotting Clerks-style (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374565)

Slashdotter: Cute server, whats its name?
Site: Annoying geek
Slashdotter: fuckin' jerk

Passion of the Clerks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374312)

Hopefully he drops another reference to the Death Star contractors in his next movie. :)

Spoilers? (1, Informative)

digidave (259925) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374324)

The book the movie is based on was written in the 70's.

Kevin Sith? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374326)

C'mon, someone had to say it...

Biased review (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374331)

I get the gist that kevin loved ROTS...

Isn't he slated in a production role for the upcoming TV series?

I would take the review with a few grains...

Re:Biased review (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374357)

I would take the review with a few grains...

My thoughts exactly. I'd treat this review with as much credit as if Lucas had written it himself.

Hey, I got an idea! Let's get the director of The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy to write a review of his movie! I wonder what he'd think of it?

Kevin Smith is invited by Lucas... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374334)

...and gets the positive review he (Lucas) paid for. Sorry, but I don't take fanboys reviews seriously.

Spoiler that eases the mind... (5, Interesting)

riptide_dot (759229) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374349)

Warning - this is a spoiler. Don't read the italics if you really don't want to know what happens:

At flick's end, Threepio and Artoo are given to Captain Antilles (with the caveat that the Protocol's memory be wiped).

Count me as one fan that's really glad that this little detail was included - I was wondering how they were going to deal with Threepio and R2D2 not recognizing Obi-Wan and others they had met in the prequels. Kind of makes Obi's reaction to seeing the droids in EP4 seem a little more mysterious too, even though that probably wasn't the intention when EP4 was shot ("I don't recall owning any droids").

Re:Spoiler that eases the mind... (1)

Vaevictis666 (680137) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374371)

Well, it was almost 20 years since he'd seen the droids or something?

Re:Spoiler that eases the mind... (5, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374427)

So do they remove R2D2's thrusters that allow him to fly around too?

Re:Spoiler that eases the mind... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374458)

Well, it seems to me Obi-Wan didn't actually *own* any droids. They travelled with him, sure, but he didn't *own* them.

That's just my interpretation there.

Re:Spoiler that eases the mind... (1)

devoss (717340) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374528)

That doesn't answer the bigger question: When does Threepio come out of the robot closet?

Don't care about spoilers, I need to know... (0, Redundant)

DA_MAN_DA_MYTH (182037) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374352)

I thought, so I read one line... All I needed:

- "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome.

I closed the page, that's all I needed to know.

Few words... (0, Redundant)

zixor (869704) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374359)

You want a non-spoiler summary of the review? The fist sentence: "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome Nuff said.

spoilers (3, Insightful)

illtron (722358) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374364)

Sometimes I wish I hadn't read every spoiler on millenniumfalcon.com. I know way more about this one going in than any of the previous prequels, but I'm still excited.

Personally, I think most of the hate directed at the previous two, Jar-Jar comments aside, was a media invention. Things get repeated enough and people start to believe it. I'm sure the same thing will happen this time around to some degree, but this is seriously the movie that fans have been waiting for. The previous two were sort of procedural. Sure, it's great to see where Anakin comes from, but admit it -- what you really want is to see him kill children.

hate of eps I and II was quite genuine (4, Insightful)

gevmage (213603) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374533)

Personally, I think most of the hate directed at the previous two, Jar-Jar comments aside, was a media invention. Things get repeated enough and people start to believe it.

True in general, but in this case, it's because those films kind of stank.

I'll list a few specifics

  • The podrace sequence that took up the middle half of the first movie. That should have been about 15 minutes.
  • Amidahla, who in Ep 1 was "queen", talking in Ep 2 about how wonderful democracy is
  • The "evil trade empire" made up of aliens with pronounced asian accents
  • The Jedi, who are supposed to be very very smart, attacking into what is completely obviously a trap
  • The dialog between Annakin and Amidalhla that left me wanting to puke.

I'm sorry, the Geoge Lucas of the 70's knew about pacing. Episodes IV, V, and VI were very fast and snappy. Episodes I and II just dragged terribly. I'm hoping that III picks up the pace a bit.

Re:spoilers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374546)

i agree that the hatred for the first movie was mostly contrived and snowballed, but the second one really did blow. hard.

mirror and comment (2, Informative)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374365)

The article is loaded with spoilers, but nice to hear that the reviewer is positive about the movie.

The mirror is here [networkmirror.com] .

Spoilers? (1)

notherenow (860367) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374374)

Isn't this the middle of the movie that we've already seen? How can you spoil that?

TFA text (spoilers and all) (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374379)

"SITH" SPOILERS

You've been warned...

- "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome. This is the "Star Wars" prequel the haters have been bitching for since "Menace" came out, and if they don't cop to that when they finally see it, they're lying. As dark as "Empire" was, this movie goes a thousand times darker - from the triggering of Order 66 (which has all the Shock Troopers turning on the Jedi Knights they've been fighting beside throughout the Clone Wars and gunning them down), to the jaw-dropping Anakin/Obi Wan fight on Mustafar (where - after cutting his legs and arm off, Ben leaves Skywalker burning alive on the shores of a lava river, with Anakin spitting venomous sentiments at his departing mentor), this flick is so satisfyingly tragic, you'll think you're watching "Othello" or "Hamlet".

I saw a gorgeous digitally projected version of the flick, and lemme tell ya': this is a beautiful looking film. The opening space battle sequence is the best in any of the six "Star Wars" movies. Grievous and Kenobi's lightsaber duel is bad-ass, with Grievous rocking four sabers. The Clone Wars end rather early in the flick (about the halfway point), leaving the rest of the film to concentrate on Anakin's turn to the Dark Side, and the resulting slaughter of the Jedi.

Perfect example of how dark shit gets: remember the Younglings - the kid Jedis in training from "Clones"? As a result of Order 66, when Anakin invades the Jedi Temple with an army of Clone Troopers, he enters the Council room to find a gaggle of said younglings hiding behind the seats. They see Anakin and emerge, asking "What should we do, Master Anakin?" The query's met with a stone-cold Anakin firing up his lightsaber. The next time you see the kids, Yoda's sifting through their corpses on the floor.

Yes, it's just that dark - and rightfully so. This is the birth of Darth Vader we're talking about. The only comic moments in the flick are given to R2D2, and while good, they're all pretty few and far between; the order of the day is dark, dark, dark.

Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor steal the show, but Hayden Christensen silences any naysayers who wrote him off as too whiney in "Clones". This is the flick that feels closest to Episodes 4, 5, and 6, because - for the first time since "Return of the Jedi" - there is a clear villain. And for all the shadow-play Palpatine has been upto in the last two flicks, his treachery is about as subtle as John Williams' score in "Sith." Whether he's slowly drawing Anakin toward the Dark Side during an opera/performance art piece with his promise of the Sith's power of life over death, or he's engaged in a balls-to-the-wall lightsaber duel in the Senate with Yoda, his "Little, green friend" (his words, not mine - which I kinda dug, because, interestingly, I think it's the first time anyone's acknowledged that Yoda is green in any of the "Star Wars" flicks), this is the Emperor's movie.

The last fifteen minutes dovetail nicely into Episode 4 (or just plain "Star Wars" for you non-geeks), and the movie is full of link-up moments as well.

- At flick's end, Threepio and Artoo are given to Captain Antilles (with the caveat that the Protocol's memory be wiped).

- The twins, natch, are split up. Leia heads to Alderann with Bail Organa, and Obi Wan hands Luke over to Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru (indeed, the closing shot is Owen holding Luke while looking out over the setting suns of Tatooine - mimicking the shot of the adult Luke doing the same in "Star Wars", complete with callback cue from Williams).

- After he succumbs to the Dark Side, Anakin tries to convine Padme that he can overthrow Palpatine, and together, he and Padme can rule the galaxy as husband and wife.

- Vader and the Emperor stand beside a younger Grand Moff Tarkin on the bridge of a Star Destroyer, overlooking the earliest construction stage of the Death Star.

- Yoda telling Obi Wan that, as he heads to Tatooine to hand over Luke and go into exile, that he should spend his time learning to commune with those who've crossed over to the next stage of life, as Yoda maintains he's been doing with Qui Gon (and Ben will later do with both Luke and Yoda, in "Empire" and "Jedi").

- And, hands-down, the best link-up to "Star Wars" moment that I enjoyed the most: Bail Organa and Yoda stepping into the hallway of the Rebel Blockade Runner that opened "Star Wars". Unlike all the high-tech CGI wizardry of the rest of the prequel Trilogy, this is a low-tech looking set, right out of circa '77, and for some reason, it really captured my imagination. I mean, this is the same exact hallway in which we got our first look at Vader, oh so many years ago, and I appreciated the hell out of Mr. Lucas including it - because it really felt like a nod to the hardcores.

Look, this is a movie I was genetically predisposed to love. I remember being eight years old, and reading in "Starlog" that Darth Vader became the half-man/half-machine he was following a duel with Ben Kenobi that climaxed with Vader falling into molten lava. Now, twenty six years later, I finally got to see that long-promised battled - and it lived up to any expectation I still held. I was sad to see the flick end, but happy to know it's not the end of the "Star Wars" universe entirely (I've read stuff about a TV show...).

"Sith" doesn't happen; "Sith" rules.

Re:TFA text (spoilers and all) (0, Troll)

Khomar (529552) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374547)

Well, I was already debating skipping out on this film, and now I have absolutely no reason to see it. This isn't a review. This isn't a review with "a few spoilers". This is a book report that summarizes how the story ends. Quite honestly, I think this is the worst "review" I have ever laid eyes on. It completely gives away all of the powerful scenes in the movie without really talking about the quality of the movie. Kevin Smith certainly should stick to his day job (even that is debatable) and leave the commentary to the professionals.

Stupid firewall at work has it blockled off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374382)

Bleh can anyone cut and paste it here?

Part of the article (2, Informative)

Ezel (249772) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374387)

Since the real article is slashdotted I went out looking on google for a mirror.

Well, this is what I found.
It's just the beginning of the full article but atleast it confirms wether Kevin likes or dislikes the movie.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20046 [aintitcool.com]

Hopefully someone will have a real mirror up soon.

Mvh: Ezel ... Malmoe, Sweden

Summary without Spoiler (5, Informative)

Jaguar777 (189036) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374392)

This is for those of you that want to know what Kevin said, but don't want to read the spoilers. Here is a brief and concise quote from the beginning.

"Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome. This is the "Star Wars" prequel the haters have been bitching for since "Menace" came out, and if they don't cop to that when they finally see it, they're lying. As dark as "Empire" was, this movie goes a thousand times darker...

article text (-1, Redundant)

y2dt (184562) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374395)

"SITH" SPOILERS

You've been warned...

- "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome. This is the "Star Wars" prequel the haters have been bitching for since "Menace" came out, and if they don't cop to that when they finally see it, they're lying. As dark as "Empire" was, this movie goes a thousand times darker - from the triggering of Order 66 (which has all the Shock Troopers turning on the Jedi Knights they've been fighting beside throughout the Clone Wars and gunning them down), to the jaw-dropping Anakin/Obi Wan fight on Mustafar (where - after cutting his legs and arm off, Ben leaves Skywalker burning alive on the shores of a lava river, with Anakin spitting venomous sentiments at his departing mentor), this flick is so satisfyingly tragic, you'll think you're watching "Othello" or "Hamlet".

I saw a gorgeous digitally projected version of the flick, and lemme tell ya': this is a beautiful looking film. The opening space battle sequence is the best in any of the six "Star Wars" movies. Grievous and Kenobi's lightsaber duel is bad-ass, with Grievous rocking four sabers. The Clone Wars end rather early in the flick (about the halfway point), leaving the rest of the film to concentrate on Anakin's turn to the Dark Side, and the resulting slaughter of the Jedi.

Perfect example of how dark shit gets: remember the Younglings - the kid Jedis in training from "Clones"? As a result of Order 66, when Anakin invades the Jedi Temple with an army of Clone Troopers, he enters the Council room to find a gaggle of said younglings hiding behind the seats. They see Anakin and emerge, asking "What should we do, Master Anakin?" The query's met with a stone-cold Anakin firing up his lightsaber. The next time you see the kids, Yoda's sifting through their corpses on the floor.

Yes, it's just that dark - and rightfully so. This is the birth of Darth Vader we're talking about. The only comic moments in the flick are given to R2D2, and while good, they're all pretty few and far between; the order of the day is dark, dark, dark.

Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor steal the show, but Hayden Christensen silences any naysayers who wrote him off as too whiney in "Clones". This is the flick that feels closest to Episodes 4, 5, and 6, because - for the first time since "Return of the Jedi" - there is a clear villain. And for all the shadow-play Palpatine has been upto in the last two flicks, his treachery is about as subtle as John Williams' score in "Sith." Whether he's slowly drawing Anakin toward the Dark Side during an opera/performance art piece with his promise of the Sith's power of life over death, or he's engaged in a balls-to-the-wall lightsaber duel in the Senate with Yoda, his "Little, green friend" (his words, not mine - which I kinda dug, because, interestingly, I think it's the first time anyone's acknowledged that Yoda is green in any of the "Star Wars" flicks), this is the Emperor's movie.

The last fifteen minutes dovetail nicely into Episode 4 (or just plain "Star Wars" for you non-geeks), and the movie is full of link-up moments as well.

- At flick's end, Threepio and Artoo are given to Captain Antilles (with the caveat that the Protocol's memory be wiped).

- The twins, natch, are split up. Leia heads to Alderann with Bail Organa, and Obi Wan hands Luke over to Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru (indeed, the closing shot is Owen holding Luke while looking out over the setting suns of Tatooine - mimicking the shot of the adult Luke doing the same in "Star Wars", complete with callback cue from Williams).

- After he succumbs to the Dark Side, Anakin tries to convine Padme that he can overthrow Palpatine, and together, he and Padme can rule the galaxy as husband and wife.

- Vader and the Emperor stand beside a younger Grand Moff Tarkin on the bridge of a Star Destroyer, overlooking the earliest construction stage of the Death Star.

- Yoda telling Obi Wan that, as he heads to Tatooine to hand over Luke and go into exile, that he should spend his time learning to commune with those who've crossed over to the next stage of life, as Yoda maintains he's been doing with Qui Gon (and Ben will later do with both Luke and Yoda, in "Empire" and "Jedi").

- And, hands-down, the best link-up to "Star Wars" moment that I enjoyed the most: Bail Organa and Yoda stepping into the hallway of the Rebel Blockade Runner that opened "Star Wars". Unlike all the high-tech CGI wizardry of the rest of the prequel Trilogy, this is a low-tech looking set, right out of circa '77, and for some reason, it really captured my imagination. I mean, this is the same exact hallway in which we got our first look at Vader, oh so many years ago, and I appreciated the hell out of Mr. Lucas including it - because it really felt like a nod to the hardcores.

Look, this is a movie I was genetically predisposed to love. I remember being eight years old, and reading in "Starlog" that Darth Vader became the half-man/half-machine he was following a duel with Ben Kenobi that climaxed with Vader falling into molten lava. Now, twenty six years later, I finally got to see that long-promised battled - and it lived up to any expectation I still held. I was sad to see the flick end, but happy to know it's not the end of the "Star Wars" universe entirely (I've read stuff about a TV show...).

"Sith" doesn't happen; "Sith" rules.

Re:article text (3, Informative)

uujjj (752925) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374459)

Mod parent down! Way down! Fast!

For those who don't want spoilers... (4, Informative)

Paradox (13555) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374397)

Kevin Smith liked it. He said he really liked it.

Not only is the production quality really high, but apparently they also go retro in a few scenes so as to provide a tie in to Episode 4.

Evidently the action and dialog run much less awkwardly than in previous movies, and the plot is extremely dark. There is less comedy and more drama. They deal with some pretty heavy subject matter.

But let me reiterate. Kevin Smith is raving and drooling about this movie. My hopes have been suitably elevated. Now, I'm off to preorder a ticket.

Spoiler Free Version . . . (3, Informative)

Goobermunch (771199) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374430)

"SITH" SPOILERS
You've been warned...
- "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome. This is the "Star Wars" prequel the haters have been bitching for since "Menace" came out, and if they don't cop to that when they finally see it, they're lying. As dark as "Empire" was, this movie goes a thousand times darker (spoilers removed), this flick is so satisfyingly tragic, you'll think you're watching "Othello" or "Hamlet".

I saw a gorgeous digitally projected version of the flick, and lemme tell ya': this is a beautiful looking film. The opening space battle sequence is the best in any of the six "Star Wars" movies. (General Spoilers Removed)

Perfect example of how dark shit gets: (very cool, very dark spoiler removed).

Yes, it's just that dark - and rightfully so. This is the birth of Darth Vader we're talking about. The only comic moments in the flick are given to R2D2, and while good, they're all pretty few and far between; the order of the day is dark, dark, dark.

Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor steal the show, but Hayden Christensen silences any naysayers who wrote him off as too whiney in "Clones". This is the flick that feels closest to Episodes 4, 5, and 6, because - for the first time since "Return of the Jedi" - there is a clear villain. And for all the shadow-play Palpatine has been upto in the last two flicks, his treachery is about as subtle as John Williams' score in "Sith." (Spoilers Removed)

The last fifteen minutes dovetail nicely into Episode 4 (or just plain "Star Wars" for you non-geeks), and the movie is full of link-up moments as well.

(Spoilers Removed)

Look, this is a movie I was genetically predisposed to love. (spoiler removed). Now, twenty six years later, I finally got to see that long-promised battle - and it lived up to any expectation I still held. I was sad to see the flick end, but happy to know it's not the end of the "Star Wars" universe entirely (I've read stuff about a TV show...).

"Sith" doesn't happen; "Sith" rules.

Are they really spoilers? (1)

jfengel (409917) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374434)

Can you really spoil a movie when you can buy the book at Amazon? [amazon.com]

Yeah, I suppose that there will be many who want to go see the movie truly not knowing what happens until they see the "one true" version of it. To my tastes you really can't spoil a movie by telling me what happens; as Roger Ebert says a movie is never about what it's about but how it is about it.

Doesn't Smith have better things to do... (0, Troll)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374470)

Like finish the Green Hornet or apologize for Jersey Girl?!

Re:Doesn't Smith have better things to do... (1)

Reignking (832642) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374534)

Actually, I think he did apologize for Jersey Girl...

Kevin Smith. (0, Troll)

zymano (581466) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374479)

Why does he get so much airtime on the Tonight show ?

I don't care who is by the way.

Bah, Kevin Smith (2, Insightful)

realmolo (574068) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374482)

I like the guy, but everyone knows he's a raving Star Wars fan-boy.

Plus, Episode I and II were so bad, if this is even halfway-decent, it's going to seem like a fucking masterpiece.

I'm still expecting it to suck. I don't see how it can't.

Would he have said it sucked? (1, Interesting)

astrashe (7452) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374488)

Do we trust him? Would he have really said that it sucked?

I'm not going to this one. Lucas keeps putting crappy movies out there, and I keep going. If I go to this one, it's over, and Lucas wins every time. This is my last chance not to fall for the same old con.

The Baby might have to wait! (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374497)

My wife is due on the same day ROTS is released. Should I be in the delivery room, or should I partake of Star Wars? Boy I just don't know! :-)

Re:The Baby might have to wait! (3, Funny)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374567)

Tell her to give birth in the theatre and then she'll give birth to a jedi....

(mind you, the green skin coloring, pointy ears and dimunitive side will be rather permanent unlike most infants he shall not grow much taller)

GO WATCH THE FAG-MOVIE!!! (1)

Albert Pussyjuice (675113) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374570)

It's probably not even your kid based on who you are.

Go fuck yourself you worthless jackass. You are a piece of waste. The long and the short of it is that I'll be fucking your wife while you're dressed up as a wood-elf.

I AM INVINCIBLE! (5, Funny)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374502)

after cutting his legs and arm off, Ben leaves Skywalker burning alive on the shores of a lava river, with Anakin spitting venomous sentiments at his departing mentor

Anakin: None shall pass.
Obi Wan: What?
Anakin: None shall pass.
Obi Wan: I have no quarrel with you, young padiwan, but I must cross this bridge.
Anakin: Then you shall die.
Obi Wan: I command you as your teacher to stand aside!
Anakin: I move for no man.
Obi Wan: So be it!

Obi Wan cuts off Anakin's left arm.

Obi Wan: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
Anakin: 'Tis but a scratch.
Obi Wan: A scratch? Your arm's off!
Anakin: No, it isn't.
Obi Wan: Well, what's that then?
Anakin: I've had worse.
Obi Wan: You liar!
Anakin: Come on you pansy!

Obi Wan cuts off Anakin's right arm.

Obi Wan: Victory is mine! We thank thee Force, that in thy mercy...
Anakin: Come on then.
Obi Wan: What?
Anakin: Have at you!
Obi Wan: You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
Anakin: Oh, had enough, eh?
Obi Wan: Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left.
Anakin: Yes I have.
Obi Wan: Look!
Anakin: Just a flesh wound.
Obi Wan: Look, stop that.
Anakin: Chicken! Chicken!
Obi Wan: Look, I'll have your leg. Right!

Obi Wan cuts off Anakin's leg.

Anakin: Right, I'll do you for that!
Obi Wan: You'll what?
Anakin: Come 'ere!
Obi Wan: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
Anakin: I'm invincible!
Obi Wan: You're a loony.
Anakin: The Dark Side always triumphs! Have at you! Come on then.

Obi Wan cuts off Anakin's other leg.

Anakin: All right; we'll call it a draw.
Obi Wan: Come, Patsy.
Anakin: Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bastard! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!

server ends on a positive note (1)

swatthatfly (808033) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374518)

I liked the end of his commentary: >, followed by > . Yeah, /. happens too.

[SPAM] Tickets available for sneak preview (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374519)

Tickets [brownpapertickets.com] are still available for the sneak preview/premier in Seattle. You can see the film with George Lucas, along with cast and crew a week before its release.

Spoilers?! Who gives a shit? We all know the story (1)

wernst (536414) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374520)

Having read Smith's excellent collection of thoughts, I have to wonder what the deal is with worrying about "Spoiling" various plot elements.

We all know the following if we've seen Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi:

1. Anakin becomes Darth Vader and survives the movie.
2. Ben Kenobi survives the movie.
3. Anakin fathers twins who become Luke and Lea, who survive the movie.
4. The Emporer and Darth Vader exterminate almost all the Jedi save those who go into hiding on desert or jungle planets. The emporer survives the movie too.
5. Those clone warriors in the white armor will probably morph into what other white armor wearing group of warriors? Hmmm. I wonder.
6. And on and on..

All I'm saying here is that people are so used to worrying about spoilers in movies that they never stop and THINK about situations where it isn't called for...

Before we take his comments too seriously... (1)

dhris (731865) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374527)

Have a look at what he said about Phantom Menace:
http://viewaskew.com/press/menace.html [viewaskew.com]

A choice quote:
"I'd rank it right after 'Empire' in a list of fave 'Star Wars' flicks".

I wouldn't.

Not unbiased (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12374535)

What do you expect a working director to say? He probably hopes to direct one of the TV spin-offs if he can. Those IN the industry can't afford to be critical if they ever want to work with someone powerful or any of his many friends.

People in Hollywood will gush over something they like, but you never see them saying ANYTHING about something they don't.

Sometimes I don't get George (1)

Sark666 (756464) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374541)

I was really excited when I saw the last trailer for ROTS and still am, but George mentioned in an interview:
"Obviously, fans would love to see a movie about Darth Vader running
around killing people. I'm not telling that story, and I'm not interested
in that. That's not what the movie is."

Now, I didn't necessarily expect to see Darth going around killing everybody, but the original said vader hunted down and killed the jedi. I don't know about you, but I've always wanted to see that, not anakin do this (as is implied in the trailer), but vader.

Imagine the last trailer the exact same way, but when anakin is walking with the army and where you see him attack a few people, replace that with vader. That would kick ass!

What I don't get about George is he knows lots of fans want this, but says 'naaah, screw it'. Imagine writing a play and you come to a scene that you know will having people on their feet cheering and you say naw screw that scene. I know I know, George has his grand vision and all, even though he struggled to write this. He had to force himself to stay at his desk or he said otherwise he'd only get a page done a day, so this definately doesn't 'flow' from him.

I dunno, to not see vader throw it down one more time is just wrong.

Spoilers? (4, Insightful)

PeterChenoweth (603694) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374542)

Why is everyone so worried about spoilers? What spoilers? Is there someone here who *hasn't* seen Episodes 4-6? Everyone knows what is supposed to happen in Episode 3.

Let's see, what do we know from 4-6. Darth Vader is Luke's father, and Leia is his sister. Obi Wan took Luke to Tatooine to live with Uncle Owen after Darth Vader took out the Jedi. The Emperor is bad, and he's the one who turns Anakin into Darth Vader via the Dark Side.

So that means in Episode 3, that there's going to be a pair of twins born, Obi Wan's going to take one of them to Tatooine, lots of Jedi will be killed, and Anakin's going to be put back together to become Darth Vader by the Emperor.

And that pretty much sums up exactly what the review says. Basically, it would appear to completely connect what has happened in 1 and 2 with 4-6. The review does point out a couple of plot elements to show just how dark Ep3 is going to be, and how much he liked it, but I don't think they'd ruin it for anyone.

Re:Spoilers? (1)

PeterChenoweth (603694) | more than 9 years ago | (#12374569)

{Let's see, what do we know from 4-6. Darth Vader is Luke's father, and Leia is his sister} Yes, yes, I know that Luke and Leia are the siblings. Sounds like I said that Leia is Anakin's sister. Of course she isn't.
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