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Dissidents Seeking Anonymous Web Solutions?

Cliff posted more than 9 years ago | from the browsing-without-regard-for-politics dept.

The Internet 684

DocMurphy asks: "I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes. Many have in-home Internet access, but think it too risky to participate in pro-freedom activities on home PCs. Internet cafés are also available, but although fairly anonymous, every machine may be infected with keystroke loggers that give governments access to and knowledge of 'banned' sites. Dissidents not only want to remain anonymous themselves, but also wish to not compromise the sites they access. Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime run Internet access?"

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684 comments

Anything public is NOT safe... (4, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523116)

Internet cafés are also available, but although fairly anonymous, every machine may be infected with keystroke loggers that give governments access to and knowledge of 'banned' sites.

I would think that Internet Café "spies" would be more useful than keyloggers to the authorities looking for dissidents. Unless these connections are somehow routed through multiple anonymous/encrypted proxies and hopping through open WAPs I really don't believe that a public terminal is in any way "safe".

A stalker that I had earlier this year was easily located via tracking his IP and figuring out which coffee shops and libraries he was using. The libraries all went through a single county-wide proxy and narrowing his location down on a Sunday was easier than you could possibly imagine (all satellite locations in the county were closed except one).

If I could track someone down that easily imagine what the members of a Gestapo looking to do more than end some harassing emails could do, especially when they might have a network of spies watching public access locations in person.

Re:Anything public is NOT safe... (5, Funny)

blake213 (575924) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523221)

You know, that shirt you're wearing right now is kinda tacky.

wait. whoops.

Re:Anything public is NOT safe... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523236)

Hmm, kakhi t-shirt and jeans. Real tacky. Idiot.

And the entire internet is public.. (1)

HighOrbit (631451) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523248)

that's the point of the "internet". Tt is a public network. Traffic gets routed through other peoples routers. Almost any "interent" traffic can be subjected to man-in-the-middle attacks at the routers. Even if it is encrypted, they can go to one end (source or destination), break in, and install a keylogger or listener to capture the key and decode a message after the fact.

Re:And the entire internet is public.. (1)

Rei (128717) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523316)

1) Find a friend in America
2) Have them run a website that has plauslbly-reasonable ssl content (a fake store or whatnot).
3) Run an ssl over http tunnel to them.
4) Enjoy your uncensored ssl connection. ... oh, what the heck:

5) ?????
6) Profit!

MOD PARENT DOWN FOR BLATENT LYING! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523269)

A stalker that I had earlier this year was easily located via tracking his IP and figuring out which coffee shops and libraries he was using.

Bullshit. Nobody is going to believe that you had a stalker, garcia. You ain't anything special.

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN FOR BLATENT LYING! (-1, Offtopic)

Saxton (34078) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523323)

Nobody is going to believe that you had a stalker, garcia.

I helped garcia track the guy down. It's not bullshit.

-Aaron

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN FOR BLATENT LYING! (-1, Offtopic)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523348)

Bullshit. Nobody is going to believe that you had a stalker, garcia. You ain't anything special.

You apparently don't have to be:

Dear Mr. Roehl:

I have been enlisted as a vendor to do an active spot check of geocaching in the greater Twin Cities metro area. I will be conducting
spot checks for approximately the next 60 days. As part of my activity I will attempt to get a pulse on the attitude of MnGCA board members,
premium members and others regarding responsible geocaching. I would appreciate your cooperation in not locking threads that can provide
revealing information about the general attitude of your active members, board members and hopefully the Site Administrator.

For our purposes it would be most helpful if you to unlock the "Bad Old Putty Cat" thread so we can determine how many members, if any, think
this is NOT an appropriate cache container. I notice that you logged in this cache as a find on January 23rd. Being that you apparently
registered NO concerns for this wooden bird house cache (by one of your members) we assume that you think it meets MnGCA guidelines for an
acceptable cache placement. We are interested to know what eXactly is MnGCAs administrative policy for taking active measures to keep ~ as
Chad would say ~ "MN folks working to keep caching legal in the state...." For eXample how many geocaches in 2004 were recommended for
removal/archival by a MnGCA board member for being inactive, in poor shape, unsafe, etc, etc. etc.? Also, do you think it might be a good
idea for MnGCA members to inform other cachers if their cache is an all~seasons winter friendly cache or only a fair weather friendly
cache?

It is a little disconcerting that no apparent concern is voiced by the Site Administrator, yourself or a board member to the potential danger that a cache like "Barn Byewater" may pose. Perhaps there needs to be an oversite geocaching agency that has the final say on whether or not *removed* (Red Wing) is informed of the potential risk of the current geocache on Barn Bluff. Since that geocache was placed a small child fell to her death in the general area of "Barn Byewater." I would appreciate it very much if you cooperate by showing us your willingness to have an open forum of discussion. Afterall, I get the impression so
far that MnGCA has a rather hands off policy on policing geocaches yet you are quick to lock a thread. Are we to assume that MnGCA does not
welcome constructive criticism? Are we to assume that the most active geocacher in the greater metro area is a "maniacal genius" whos goal in
life is to monopolize location after location after location (700??? caches placed)? Perhaps, there are other members that would like an
opportunity to place a cache near their place of residence that isn't already taken by someone who lives miles away. What we'd really would like to know is if MnGCA is already out~of~control? What about giving everyone a fair chance by limiting a member to the number of caches they can place each year and the length of time any one cache can eXist?

Wouldn't this actually increase geocaching activity by creating more new sites to search every year instead of the same old cache at the same old location for several years? Or is one goal of Mngca a hands-off policy ~ with the fewer restrictions the better (e.g. bird house cache attached to tree with metal fastner)??? What eXactly, if anything, does the braintrust of MnGCA do to discourage and curtail such cute & clever caches as the "Bad Old Putty Cat?"

You indicate that you would like ~ "To obtain a challenging and demanding position in the Office of the Registrar ... ." Is *removed*
(952) *removed* aware of how much time you spend each day checking the discussion forums at MnGCA and thinking about geocaching at tax payer eXpense? Do you think, *removed*, Ed.D., and President of HTC~South would have any interest in www.lazylightning.org and likewise helping you further your career objectives???

Truly yours,

*removed*

Don't Tell Him! (0, Troll)

taskforce (866056) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523117)

With a name like Murphy he's clearly working for the IRA!

NOTICE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523119)

A wiener is different than a pooter!!!!

HAH (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523121)

First post.

Re:SUK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523160)

Rollofolloecopter .....FAILED!!

No. Nothing 100% (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523123)

No, Think about it this way. The Internet is made by humans, using human reasoning it has a method of communicating with your computer and an other computer at a different location. So if they really want to see where you came from they will follow your traffic. It might take time, money and legislation but it can be done, if they truly want to track you down. It is a question of are you worth the effort. The only good method is to take citizenship in a location which it is legal to say your point of view, if it is considered illegal around the world then you may have an other issue. While Free Speech is a human right it is by no means safe, to defend. And free speech is wrong when it is used to hurt people, or in danger other people. Such as Yelling fire in a crowded area, when there is no fire, because the riot could kill or injure people.

Lemme guess... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523126)

I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes.
Democrats?

Re:Lemme guess... (2, Funny)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523166)

I was going to say "Texans".

Re:Lemme guess... (4, Funny)

utexaspunk (527541) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523242)

Texas Democrats? Exiled in New Mexico? :)

Re:Lemme guess... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523330)

No,

Log Cabin Republicans

Dear submitter (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523127)

Your parents' basement is not an oppressive regime.

Love,
People suffering under the oppressive regimes of employers

Re:Dear submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523223)

Sounds like you speak from experience?

Just because you like being tied up in his parents basement doesn't mean he's into the same fetishes you are.

Re:Dear submitter (1)

El_Smack (267329) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523229)

Funniest. Post. Ever.

Mod. Parent. Up.

FP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523128)

First posting on a Friday evening. Sheesh, my life is dull :)

Do it in the open. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523131)

If you're not willing to go to jail for it, it's not civil disobedience. If you're not willing to die for freedom, you don't deserve freedom.

Cowardly dissidents do more harm than good.

Move? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523134)

Move?

wireless (1, Insightful)

Umbral Blot (737704) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523136)

Open wireless nerworks wouldn't work because?

Re:wireless (3, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523185)

Open wireless nerworks wouldn't work because?

Connected to what when the government tracks everything and owns/controls all of the nations connectivity?

You may as well have suggested FDDI or gigabit ethernet would solve the problem.

Once you're inside of a 'repressive regime', it's a lot more difficult to circumvent than just pick a new network layer.

Re:wireless (1)

pcmanjon (735165) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523326)

Since this is underground type shit you could easily tap in to someones phoneline, splice the cables at a trunk and use a laptop to dial up (use a dialup account from the US or something, where it'd be impossible to warrent information out) Use proxy servers (encrypted) to do your deeds, then sign off, and leave the area.

This sounds overly complicated and not worth the hassle, but then again, if you want to post shit that is illegal in your country anyways, what business do you have doing it? Go to www.thiscountrysucks.com and post MY COUNTRY SUCKS... well I mean what type of info are these people talking about in the 'underground'?

I'd move out of the country if I were them. Why live in private bashing them when you could leave the borders and bash them in public? Nothing will ever change if you talk bad about your gov't in private.

Re:wireless (1)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523187)

If you're in China and you want to access a blocked site by the chinese ISP, how does a wireless network help?

Re:wireless (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523230)

You are braudcasting your computer like a sore thumb to the spies. Hmm who is using wireless today. Well lets get out our pingle can and bingo!

Re:wireless (5, Insightful)

kouhoutek (836370) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523278)

Beacuse:
A. Repressive regimes may not have a lot of unsecured open hotspots.
B. Repressive regimes may not have an abundance of wireless enabled laptops, and possessing one would draw attention.
C. Going from "inside the internet cafe" to "within 150' of the internet cafe" doesn't get you that much. Repressive regimes are pretty good with triangulation.

This might just be an appropriate time (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523140)

for an anonymous f1rst p0st.

write in advance, encrypt and email it (4, Informative)

maharg (182366) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523141)

write it in advance, take it to the cybercafe on a floppy, pgp it, email it to someone you trust (or an automated publisher)

Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it (2, Informative)

maharg (182366) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523180)

oops, meant pgp, then put it on the floppy

Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it (3, Insightful)

tekiegreg (674773) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523343)

The only issue I see with that is that it is possible to detect (though not decode) encryption. If a repressive government sees a particular pattern coming from a particular cybercafe, they'll start watching more and someone could still be in trouble under the "well why would you encrypt it? You must be a dissident!" assumption. That could be just as bad as if they were leaving it unencrypted....

So basically (0, Flamebait)

dJCL (183345) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523142)

Your saying that some Americans want to get the word out?

Sorry, couldn't help myself...

Re:So basically (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523284)

Ya, we laugh now...

Onion Routing (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523144)

vpn (1)

calyptos (752073) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523151)

You could get a foreign vpn account.

Could this be mis-used? (1, Funny)

drsmack1 (698392) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523153)

I can see it now:

Chekov: Excuse me I'm looking for the nuclear wessels

Chekov: Nuclear wessels.

I do not know if this is valid... (1)

metlin (258108) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523156)

...but what about Metanet?

(I'm not even entirely sure if its for real, but hey!)

Freenet (2, Insightful)

TheRedHorse (559375) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523157)

Freenet is the only solution I can think of, although it seems much slower than the common internet, and I'm not up to date on what content's available, but this is what freenet was made for.

http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

Re:Freenet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523184)

The problem with current versions of freenet is that you have to be a 24/7 node to be able to publish anything reliably. In the "old days" you could be a transient node and publish with ease.

I hope I'm not the only one thinking it (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523158)

Sounds like child pornographers, to me.

MailBoxes Etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523164)

Use the MailBoxes Etc over by the Watergate. Tell'em George sent you.

Use the Circumventor. (4, Informative)

Silverlancer (786390) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523169)

PeaceFire [peacefire.org] distributes a free program called the Circumventor which can be used (by running it on a server in a free country) to safely and securely proxy out of a firewalled nation like China.

Re:Use the Circumventor. (3, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523247)

PeaceFire distributes a free program called the Circumventor which can be used (by running it on a server in a free country) to safely and securely proxy out of a firewalled nation like China.

I'm curious about this --- if in a nation like China all of the packets are routed through government owned machines, how would sending a proxy to a foreign machine circumvent them? All of your data still passes over the network in the country. The IPs of your foreign host could be blocked.

I'm not dissing you, I'm just not 100% sure of how easy it is to bypass that. On the surface, depending on how they implemented it, I should think that's kinda like bypassing the phone system in my country so I can use another --- I still need the phone system I'm wired into, no?

Tor (4, Informative)

Tack (4642) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523170)

Look at Tor [eff.org] . It works well.

Jason.

Re:Tor (3, Informative)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523252)

If it works at all.

Wholesale blocking of Tor nodes as they are identified has become popular because, like anything remotely useful, it's been abused by spammers, stalkers, and other general asshats.

Congratulations (1)

null etc. (524767) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523176)

I'm working with some dissidents

Congratulations, Carnivore just found a new snack.

Apparently you are in the US (0, Flamebait)

Colonel Panic (15235) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523178)

I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes

Sounds like you're in the US, correct?

Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523254)

Haha. All you complaining about the US, I'd bet have never actually lived under a repressive regime. Bet you don't know what real slavery feels like either. Or ethnic cleansing. Just sit home in front of the TV, and think you know what the real world is like.

Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523303)

And where are you from, that you suffer from all of these things, yet still manage to have access to the internet to post your enlightening thoughts to /.?

Re:Apparently you are in the US (0, Troll)

PaxTech (103481) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523328)

Sounds like you're in the US, correct?

Of course he is. Most of the rest of the civilized world doesn't care at all about people trapped in oppressive regimes. In fact, they'll stonewall you in the UN if you try to do anything about an oppresive regime, and don't mention the word genocide, they've never heard of it.

There is no anonymity on the internet (3, Informative)

HighOrbit (631451) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523186)

Between IP-Addresses, MAC addresses, and dial-in-numbers, there is no anonymity on the internet. Any feeling of anonymity is an illusion. Best not to risk your life if a regime is that oppressive. Not even encryption is safe, because as you mentioned, keyloggers and silent listeners can capture passcodes and keys. If you must pass information, try it the old fashioned way - person to person or with a trusted intermediary.

Re:There is no anonymity on the internet (4, Insightful)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523287)

"Best not to risk your life if a regime is that oppressive."

That's an excellent time to risk your life. Rolling over and "playing nice" is exactly what lets oppressive regimes exist.

I just bought shares of Alcoa... (4, Funny)

El_Smack (267329) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523188)

...cause there isn't enough tinfoil in the world for guys like this.

Ever hear of Carnivore? (1)

ianscot (591483) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523334)

Try reading the book "Persepolis." Easy graphic novel, about a young woman from Iran -- you'll finish it in a night. It's absurd, you're right, but not that funny.

Signpost ahead: You've entered The Dissident Zone. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523189)

"Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime run Internet access?""

Try fax nachines. It worked for the chinese.

Seriously any encrypted traffic will automatically make you suspect. Doesn't need to be decrypted or anything.

The bush regime... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523192)

The bush regime is bad, but I wouldn't say repressive. No wait, I just checked the dictionary and I would say repressive.

ssh (2, Informative)

delirium of disorder (701392) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523194)

Google for free ssh connections, and chain a few of them together just to be sure. I run a free shell service myself (but its currently down for upgrading).

EFF Tor (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523197)

https steganographic, encrypted proxies (5, Informative)

js7a (579872) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523198)

From http://doc.asf.ru/Tools%20&%20Utilities.htm [doc.asf.ru]
Corkscrew [agroman.net] (Unix, Windows) : Tunnel SSH connections through an HTTP proxy.

Curl [curl.haxx.se] (Unix, Windows) : Utility who permits to easily download and upload files by using different protocols: FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, Telnet, LDAP, ... Also supports proxies, cookies, authentification, resumes, ...

DesProxy [sourceforge.net] (Unix, Windows) : Tunnel TCP connections through an HTTP proxy, eventually by converting SOCKS requests.

FizzBounce [team-teso.net] (Unix) : TCP redirector through HTTP proxies.

HTTPort [htthost.com] (Windows) [Closed source]: Tunnel TCP connections through the HTTP protocol, by simulating a SOCKS server, and by eventually using an intermediate server.

HTTPTunnel [nocrew.org] (Unix, Windows) : Bidirectionnal tunnel through HTTP requests, eventually through an HTTP proxy.

LibCurl [curl.haxx.se] (Unix, Windows) : Library who permits to easily download and upload files by using different protocols: FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, Telnet, LDAP, ... Also supports proxies, cookies, authentification, resumes, and lots of languages: C, C++, Perl, ...

MultiProxy [multiproxy.org] (Windows) [Closed source]: HTTP proxies tester. MultiProxy can be used as a proxy server who use a different proxy for each request.

Numby [team-teso.net] (Unix) : Scanner for HTTP vulnerables proxies.

Proxomitron [proxomitron.org] (Windows) [Closed source]: Scanner and redirector through HTTP proxies, who can also delete or modify informations contained in HTML transferred pages. For example, this permits to easily filter automatic popups, DHTML or JavaScript.

ProxyTools [sourceforge.net] (Unix, Windows) : Set of Perl utilities, who permits to use, sort, test and search for HTTP proxies.

TransConnect [sourceforge.net] (Unix) : Transparently tunnel TCP connections through an HTTP proxy.

Zylyx [team-teso.net] (Unix) : permits to access to files through HTTP proxy caches.

Oh stop it (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523200)

Oh come on, honestly, this kind of story is pure theatrics and nonsense. John Ascroft left months ago! Poppycock.

MUTE type solutions.. (1)

Qybix (103935) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523201)

Has anyone considered something like a MUTE type of solution? If such a thing existed, I would allow a small percentage of my cpu time and network bandwidth to be used to route messages.

Easy solution (1)

Zone-MR (631588) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523202)

Get a server outside the regime. A dedicated linux or windows server is perfect for this.

Then simply connect to this server using an encrypted connection such as SSH, X over SSH, Windows Remote Desktop, or whatever.

Use the remote box for all your activities.

GNUnet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523205)

Try GNUnet. They claim to allow for the promulgation of files in an encrypyted, anonymous environment.

www.gnunet.org

Dissidence isn't supposed to be convenient. (5, Insightful)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523209)

If you've gotten to the point where you're really worried about being caught and persecuted, perhaps the internet is not your safest bet, due to every reason being posted here, ie: keyloggers, etc. As much as you'd like to change your world, the "system" isn't going to make things easy for you to overthrow it. And the internet is very much a part of the "system." Unless you're ready to string up your own network and create a rebellion intranet, you're out of luck.

Just do what they do on the Sopranos: keep it low tech, use payphones, meet in person. If your cause it that important and you need to spread information, may I suggest a major leaflet campaign?

Can't be too repressive... (1)

null etc. (524767) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523213)

I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes.

I'm surprised that repressive regimes allow Internet. Or wait, am I thinking of oppressive regimes. Or surpressive regimes... Damn I always get my regimes mixed up.

Anyways, tell them to play EverQuest - that will make them forget about the regimes. Although then they'll have to worry about repressive clans and PK'ers.

Welcome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523220)

On behalf of the Anonymous Coward community, allow me to welcome you here. You may indeed post anonymously here. Of course, it takes a while to post our messages. "Frist Psot" = A, "I for one welcome.." = B, and so on. You'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.

Impossible based on requirement (2, Insightful)

ebrandsberg (75344) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523232)

If you assume that any "public" PC is infected with a key logger, then you can NOT guarantee any level of protection, as they can always find the names of sites you type in, etc. You must have some level of trust on the PC before you can consider any solution. Beyond that, you would want to make use of an encrypted connection to a proxy or vpn outside the control of the regime, then access the content from there.

Screw using the internet... (4, Funny)

realmolo (574068) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523233)

If you want to communicate with your fellow dissidents in secret, just broadcast it through a UPN affiliate. I guarantee NO ONE will ever see what you're up to.

Mod parent up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523344)

Fscking hilarious.

Tor (1)

johnynek (36948) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523234)

I know they might feel uncomfortable running this software from home, but I feel like it should be mentioned:

http://tor.eff.org/ [eff.org]

It is free software from the EFF. It is an anonymous socks [faqs.org] proxy.

anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523237)

http://www.anonymizer.com/ [anonymizer.com] ?

Next Time (2, Insightful)

zepmaid (694112) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523238)

Dear DocMurphy, Next time, please submit stories as AC. Posting your email address on the front page of slashdot is a poor way of achieving anonymity.

Re:Next Time (2, Funny)

pocketfullofshells (722066) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523302)

Alright, the first idiot gave us his email address... now lets break him and get some more names, so we can find out how retarded these other dissidents are.

OPEN VPN (1)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523239)

http://openvpn.net/ [openvpn.net] It's an alternative. Difficult to get going but might help... It is like the Zion of the internet

doesn't seem possible... (1)

machinecraig (657304) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523243)

As other posters have pointed out, if you can't trust anything about the machine your using - then that settles the matter. Your number one goal if this is the case, should be to obtain trusted hardware and a method of getting it online. It goes without saying that everything depends on the level of hostility that you're up against. If getting caught means that you get imprisoned or executed, priority number 1 should be getting out of that country - not getting web pages uploaded.

Even the methods of using proxies to hide your IP only really works by trusting the party that's running the proxy.

Dear Slashdot, (0, Redundant)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523249)

I work for an oppressive government's ISP monitoring administration. Do you have any suggestions for proxy websites we should block? Any particular ports we should be examining, or traffic patterns?

Thanks in advance,
Elwood P Dowd

Two Words (1)

shaze (665876) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523250)

Anonymous PROXY!!! "Cunning Stunt"

AK-47 (1)

phoenix42 (263805) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523260)

I recommend the Ak-47 as the tool for people in oppressive regimes.

Igpay Atinlay (4, Funny)

nekoniku (183821) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523267)

Olvesay the oblempray.

location please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523272)

"I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes."

Where, in the U.S.A., exactly?

I ain't sayin' (0, Flamebait)

NoDough (15325) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523293)

I'm not sure that I want to share such information with someone who uses the Arabic spelling of Jehovah in their email address.

Under a repressive regime... (3, Funny)

Tenebrious1 (530949) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523294)

Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime...

Which oppressive regime, the RIAA or MPAA?

Steganography (1)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523295)



I'm surprised I haven't seen a mention of steganography yet in this discussion.

Properly implemented, stego can be used quite effectively to communicate secretly on the Internet.

Re:Steganography (1)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523337)



Here's another exanple of a secure communications channel on the Internet.

SpamMimic [spammimic.com]

m$ onscreen keyboard (1)

ITchix0r (883851) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523299)

they can't keylog clicks

great anonymity tools (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523300)

This are so far some of the best anonymity tools:

Tor: http://tor.freehaven.net/ [freehaven.net]
Freenet: http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

And, yes, we still need some smart guy/girl to come up with an even better anonymity software.

Live Linux Distro + Alt Key Mapping + VPN ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523301)

How about someone make a live linux distro that is specifically mean to assist people suffering from repression? A combination of RDP and VPN, encryption, wifi, wired, perhaps requiring an alternate key mapping, dhcp / configurable addressing, etc.

I must say I am amused by the leftist jokes about Americans being limited in speech when the leftists are the ones who have a history of promoting socialism + atheism which when mixed with a small dose of totalitarianism is about the same thing that the Chinese live under. 600 Million killed by Communism?

Keep the suggestions coming (1)

Kushy (225928) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523305)

At this rate with the yahoo's in office, we will be looking to do this exact same thing in the United States soon. This will be a police state with the secret MPAA and the RIAA double private secret police.

MetroPipe (1)

masukomi (229249) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523307)

http://www.metropipe.net/ [metropipe.net]

although as someone previously mentioned, any encrypted traffic will make you suspect

Couldn't this guy do what all of us do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12523311)

And just google his question?

Interweb... (1)

Robotron23 (832528) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523314)

In my opinion, the Internet is largely inclined towards Democracy and Democratic ideals, because it originated from the USA, and was invented by Al Gore!

Seriously though, the only real danger of having your identity exploited in a serious manner, coupled with a negative consequence, is when corporations get hold of your personal details...So ironically the finest place to have the internet identity protection wise is in China or another Communist regime - there are simply a lot less corporations checking up on you.

And the State? Well as we can deduce from the recent RealID scheme, are close to having all the information they'll ever need for us plebs.

Open wifi networks (1)

tripie (776833) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523317)

Just get a laptop and leech off other peoples internet connection, if its anything like the US you wont have to walk far to find an open linksys router. Or you could set up a remote system ONLY for your family and encrypt the traffic.

Key logging (1)

XPoHuK (765987) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523325)

Can they use their own computers in the inet Cafe?

Webbrowsing from anywhere... (1)

Ruede (824831) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523327)

something like a webbrowser in your webbrowser...
but there will be still the problem of banned ips etc...

maby p2p webbrowsing with dynamic ips (and dyndns)or so...

There is no point (2, Insightful)

ahdeoz (714773) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523333)

There is no point in being a dissident if you choose to remain anonymous. How is anyone supposed to know what your motives are if they don't know who you are. And if you really care about the things you say, then you should be willing to take a stand for it. Any anonymous "dissention" is on par with raving on usenet and somewhere beneath private grumblings. Anonymous action, yes, can produce results. But anonymous words aren't worth the electrons they're displayed with.

Hmmmmm.... (1)

MrRoarkeLovesTattoo (878817) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523347)

Are you in Detroit? Just curious

One Man's Villan is Another's Man's Hero (2, Insightful)

geoaxis (818564) | more than 9 years ago | (#12523349)

How can one make sure that a perfect system will not be used by terrorists and human smugglers, child pornographers to hide their activities. This may be classified as "choose between the two devils"
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