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IBM Backs Firefox In-House

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the adopt-a-fox dept.

Mozilla 296

An anonymous reader wrote in with the link to a CNet story describing IBM's adoption of the Firefox browser for internal use. From the article: "Firefox is already used by about 10 percent of IBM's staff, or about 30,000 people. Starting this past Friday, IBM workers could download the browser from internal servers and get support from the company's help desk staff. IBM's commitment to Firefox is among its most prominent votes of confidence from a large corporation."

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FROSTY PISS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524105)



Pour me up a tall, foamy piss there Spock!

And (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524107)

It runs great on OS/2! I can format floppies and browse the web... AT THE SAME TIME!!!

Re:And (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524163)

most funny aspect of parent that is has been marked as both +1 Funny and +1 Troll. perfect :-)

Re:And (1)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524214)



'Troll' is a +1 mod now???

Uh oh...

More companies should follow suit ... (1, Interesting)

smoyer (108342) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524110)

my company has far too many "IE Only" applications. :(

Re:More companies should follow suit ... (1, Funny)

lord_rob the only on (859100) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524129)

Time to get a new job ehhh ;-)

Re:More companies should follow suit ... (2, Funny)

Keiyentai (842583) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524137)

Hm interesting, I wonder how IBM will effect FireFox.

Re:More companies should follow suit ... (4, Informative)

onkelonkel (560274) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524444)

TFA says IBM will effect FireFox by hosting it on internal servers and providing help desk support.

Oh...wait...did you mean to ask "I wonder how IBM will effect FireFox?" or did you mean to ask "I wonder how IBM will _affect_ FireFox?" Because those are two entirely different questions.

Re:More companies should follow suit ... (1)

th3space (531154) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524476)

You, sir, are my hero!

Re:More companies should follow suit ... (1)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524470)

IBM needs to bundle Firefox with their xSeries server lines. After that, port it to AIX, and bundle that instead of netscape on all pSeries boxes.

Every IBM customer I have seen, at least ask about Firefox once. IBM is notorious for OEMing every software to the point where all you see is IBM. People wonder if Firefox is hidden under some IBM product name.

Yeah, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524148)

You work at Microsoft.

Re:More companies should follow suit ... (2, Interesting)

no soup for you (607826) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524463)

my company has far too many "IE Only" applications. :(

I think this is THE defining problem of current Microsoft developement shops. For the last three's of years I've had to tell the manager's "Let me develop a cross-browser app, you'll see... you'll see". Which was followed by the response, "I could care less about cross-browser."

Flash forward to a month ago --- "I couldn't sell this if it was IE only on Windows!"....

... take a bow

Surprising no one... (3, Insightful)

Heliologue (883808) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524124)

...since IBM has tradition been a huge advocate of open source.

Re:Surprising no one... (1)

MikeCapone (693319) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524184)

Sometimes it's better to NOT be surprised...

Re:Surprising no one... (3, Interesting)

Spiked_Three (626260) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524227)

You obviously have not been around very long. 20 years ago IBM would gladly sit at the table and argue why proprietary systems were better. Sure, they are singing the 'open source' and 'open standards' line now, but it IS NOT tradition, nor should it be thought of as anything more than a phase they see as the way to make the most money at the moment.

Re:Surprising no one... (4, Insightful)

hbo (62590) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524453)

The truth is somewhere between "tradition" and "today's passing greed based fad." IBM believes that the basic technology underlying IT will increasingly become a commodity. They feel that Free/Libre and Open Source Software is a major driver of this trend. They made a huge bet 10 years ago that services layered on top of commodity software would be where the growth would be in IT spending. Because the facts have continued to show they were right about this, they have continued to commit the company to courses of action consistent with this direction in the years since. Support by IBM for F/L OSS is completely consistent with this strategic view. Although this is not the same thing as signing on, for example, to Richard Stallman's ethical code, it isn't a flash in the pan, and it won't go away overnight.

Re:Surprising no one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524257)

If by "tradition" you mean the last ten years or so, then yeah.

For the company which pissed away their IT monopoly to a small Washington software company, they sure have been making a lot of smart decisions over the last few years.

Between the smart ways in which they've positioned the Power line of processors and their ongoing support for Free (as in "fuck you Bill Gates") Software, they have really re-established themselves as a player in an industry which they were once on the verge of losing entirely.

Didn't they announce a transition to linux too? (3, Interesting)

nietsch (112711) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524415)

Wasn't it about a year ago that IBM top honcho declared that all of IBM would switch to using linux? Now that would be a impressive feat if they pulled that off.
10% of IBM employees pales in comparison to that. But the PR spinmeisters hoped you would have forgotten that already, i guess.

Good reference case (4, Insightful)

nokiator (781573) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524126)

This may be the best possible reference case for the average IT guy trying to convince his/her boss that FireFox is a good solution for a corporate environment.

Re:Good reference case (1)

Mudcathi (584851) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524191)

Unless the poor IT guy's boss used one of the bad Thinkpads in the mid-90's.

Re:Good reference case (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524266)

Assuming one doesn't use GPOs associated with IE.

Of course if one does, then one would just be advertising the fact that one is a retard, and should have a Post-It "future layoff" tag affixed to one's personnel file.

Re:Good reference case (1)

blogeasy (674237) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524382)

This is also very good news for the FireFox browser if it eventually rolls out to all of their employees. If 30,000 (10%) are using it already, FireFox has very good potential to increase by another 270,000 (90% more) users and the full backing of a large corporation. This is very good news all around.

Re:Good reference case (4, Funny)

Glowing Fish (155236) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524388)

No one ever got fired for imitating IBM.

Good example? (4, Insightful)

Sv-Manowar (772313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524130)

Having IBM as a good example to use when pushing for corporate adoption of Firefox is a great thing for people working in this area. Although, it must be said that IBM are less likely to have troublesome components (IE specific webpages, ActiveX components) within any intranet pages than other companies due to their own products in that area (I'm thinking Lotus..).

Re:Good example? (5, Interesting)

Zlorfik (199901) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524274)

As an IBM employee, I was shocked how virtually every internal app worked with Firefox right from the get go.

That's when I knew this browser was for real in terms of being an IE replacement.

Re:Good example? (2, Funny)

kagemaru (881295) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524298)

you: hey boss let's adopt firefox instead of IE
boss: fire.. what?
you: firefox... IBM supports it.
boss: says who?
you: uuuh... there is this crappy CNET story...
etc

Re:Good example?......but how (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524438)

as one of those unfortunate corporate slaves, I have been used to being able to set group policies and using deployment tools for IE for use in the coporate environment (for forcing proxy settings as one of many possible examples), how do I do this with firefox?

Dependence on rival's product? (0, Redundant)

rovingeyes (575063) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524135)

From the article: "For IBM, the move is a significant step in lessening dependence on a product from rival Microsoft"

Right, and by changing browser they lessen the dependence, woohoo!

Re:Dependence on rival's product? (1)

pizzaman100 (588500) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524244)

yeah baby! Firefox shags IE again! [geocities.com]

Re:Dependence on rival's product? (4, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524324)

How.
1. Buy using Firefox IBM will require all web based apps the company develops or uses to be browser neutral. These means that Microsoft's IE only solutions are not an option.
2. Firefox runs on Linux and Mac as well as Windows. Since all web based apps can now run on Firefox they can also run on Linux and Mac.

Download count (3, Funny)

JoaoPinheiro (749991) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524138)

Meaning 20,000 more downloads not counting on the Official Firefox Download Counter.

Re:Download count (1, Redundant)

MikeCapone (693319) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524218)

I doubt that they'll download it 20,000 times. They will probably install them all from the same download, which is something that the people who complain about the representativeness of the download counter always forget. Sure one person might download it more than once, but what about those who download it once and install it many times?

Re:Download count (1)

JoaoPinheiro (749991) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524333)

Yeah, exactly.
IBM simply has the file on their servers and people will install it from there.

Re:Download count (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524336)

-1, Misunderstood the parent

Re:Download count (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524352)

That was the parent's point...

Re:Download count (1)

M3rk1n_Muffl3y (833866) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524235)

Is there an official download counter? What's the URL?

Re:Download count (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524356)

Like Linux as well, IBM doesn't use external sources for downloading Firefox. Instead, it is installed via internal mirrors.

Re:Download count (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524395)

So using RIAA math, there are at least 800 million Firefox users since every copy of the 80 million downloaded files is illegaly copied by ten people. Opera Software could make a claim that it's lost 31.2 billion dollars in revenues due to Firefox. I heard rumors that Darl McBride have shown interest of becoming the CEO of Opera Software...

Great Reference (3, Interesting)

boeserjavamann (655642) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524158)

What could be better than Big Blue backing up Firefox? And why not? OS is already a Thing for IBM. Just look at the IBM-sponsored Eclipse Foundation. Congrats Firefox!

Re:Great Reference (1)

gelwood (852074) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524182)

thank god for eclipse.

Re:Great Reference (1)

boeserjavamann (655642) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524219)

i do :-)

Microsoft Counter (5, Funny)

xCepheus (687775) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524172)

In other news Microsoft countered by saying that after conducting an extensive poll of it's thousands of employees that "tabbed browsing" was not something that internet users wanted.

They also added that most Softies said that 1 "tab" would be enough for anyone.

Re:Microsoft Counter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524304)

Remember if Microsoft starts adding reasonable features they can get sued. It's not Microsoft holding back innovation, it's lawyers.

Re:Microsoft Counter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524326)

Yeah, it sucks when someone else patents something cool, doesn't it?

Re:Microsoft Counter (1)

NatteringNabob (829042) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524472)

Bill Gates announced today that IE will now be the only browser officially supported at Microsoft. He explained that since CSS2 is a flawed standard, and Firefox more closely conforms to CSS2 than IE, it therefore follows that Firefox is more flawed than IE. Gates further stated that thousands of good paying systems administration jobs depended on giving virus writers and malware vendors access to personal computers so changing to a browser which did not support ActiveX would cripple the US economy. Finally Gates noted that without a significant threat of virus exposure, software vendors would have no incentive to develop and market innovative new anti-virus products such as Microsoft's recent entry into the market. "The fact is that the US economy depends on customers using defective products from Microsoft and anybody that uses some other product is simply embracing Communism which we all know doesn't work" Gates said.

Support? (2, Insightful)

Telastyn (206146) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524173)

I know the whole "officially supported" practice, but really, it's a damned web browser. Certainly the biggest software services company can find a few people that know how that works...

Probably a greater effect than at work (3, Interesting)

SteelV (839704) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524180)

Once these employees are using FireFox at work, there is a good chance that they'll start to use it as home, as well (once they get used to it, and if they like it more than IE which usually seems to be the case). Then they can tell family and friends (I've personally only convinced a few people to switch, but those ten or so have told others, and it spreads).

Personally, I prefer Safari over FireFox (I don't need too many extensions, just a simple browsing experience) but when I'm on a windows machine I only use FireFox.

Re:Probably a greater effect than at work (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524396)

Once these employees are using FireFox at work, there is a good chance that they'll start to use it as home

who cares ? What is the promised land here ? Everyone lets switch to Firefox and teach Microsoft a lesson ?

Personally, I prefer Safari over FireFox

Yeah Safari rocks. No ad filtering, no configurability. Brushed metal. Hardwired Google search. Built on stolen KHTML webcore that Apple pilfered from KDE.

But I don't blame you, Firefox is a pile of shit on the Mac.

About time (5, Interesting)

M3rk1n_Muffl3y (833866) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524185)

I work at a major investment bank and just yesterday they decided to send a memo around saying that Firefox is not to be used. I wonder why that was? No, really does anyone have any suggestions.

Re:About time (1)

gordlea (258731) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524288)

Is the intranet done in asp or something perhaps?

Re:About time (1)

M3rk1n_Muffl3y (833866) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524354)

Not sure. But ASP being server side, I don't see what difference it makes. Also, very few people use browser based internal apps on a regular basis. The reason I grumble about it is the great on-page search tool Firefox has, with which you sift through a 50 page report in no-time, which is what I do most of the day.

Re:About time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524432)

"with which you sift through a 50 page report in no-time, which is what I do most of the day."

Man, that doesn't leave much time for just staring out into space each day...

Re:About time (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524323)

CSFB is it? Don't worry, we, your support people have cheerfully ignored this, so we're happy.

Re:About time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524378)

Fear of being sued for using Open Source, perhaps?

Re:About time (1)

hab136 (30884) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524420)

Fear of being sued for using Open Source, perhaps?

That makes no sense. Who would sue them? And why?

Policy forbids Firefox? (1)

200_success (623160) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524448)

Simple workaround: use Mozilla!

Re:Policy forbids Firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524491)

Do you put 'cunning' in the skills list of your resume?

Re:About time (1)

TerminaMorte (729622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524450)

Probally because the new exploit out for Firefox that came out recently, as mentioned on Slashdot and many other news sites.

Managers hear about it, and don't want it on their computers.

And yes, I'm well aware that it's been fixed, but not many news sites have mentioned it.

Re:About time (2, Insightful)

hab136 (30884) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524455)

I work at a major investment bank and just yesterday they decided to send a memo around saying that Firefox is not to be used. I wonder why that was? No, really does anyone have any suggestions.

Support is usually the reason cited. "We support this product, don't use any other ones because our help desk isn't trained on it."

When the proxy team at the bank I used to work for wanted to use Linux boxes instead of Solaris (self-supporting team) for 2x the speed and 1/3 the cost, we were told no. The decision maker was very pro-MS, had quite a lot of MSFT stock, and had recently been pitched by MS about anti-Linux. But we weren't allowed to use it for technical reasons. Really.

Get Use To It Microsoft (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524193)

No matter what one thinks of IBM and its products, they are creating the blueprints companies around the world are using to get themselves out from mess they've all put themselves into with costly Microsoft products.

The headline isn't IBM back Firebox, but IBM shows the commercial world the way out of the quagmire of Microsoft dependance.

Fuck IBM (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524197)

If IBM took a steaming shit would it get on crapdots frontpage?

I think so.

But the thanks for reminding me about the shit that matters!

Fuckholes.

Re:Fuck IBM (-1, Troll)

Kingofearth (845396) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524307)

If IBM took a steaming shit would it get on crapdots frontpage?

I think so.

You must have IBM confused with Google.

Re:Fuck IBM (-1, Offtopic)

grub (11606) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524329)


Fuckholes

In Canada we call them "cunts".

University of Nebraska Already There (5, Informative)

elecngnr (843285) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524200)

After this past fall semester, the Department of Electrical Engineering at the University of Nebraska begin setting Firefox as the default browsers in all the teaching labs due to problems with IE. Previously, at the end of each semester, the techs responsible for these labs would spend a lot of time cleaning up the malware coming in via IE. Now that this semester is over, the word is that the switch proved successful in terms of not having much to clean up.

Google article withdrawl (3, Funny)

panaceaa (205396) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524206)

Where are today's articles about Google!? There's 4 articles about Firefox and nothing, NOTHING, about Google!!

Re:Google article withdrawl (4, Funny)

M3rk1n_Muffl3y (833866) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524260)

It's Friday and the Google crew is out playing Volleyball.

Re:Google article withdrawl (4, Funny)

rjelks (635588) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524325)

"It's Friday and the Google crew is out playing Volleyball."

I think you mean Dodgeball. [geekinformed.com]

Re:Google article withdrawl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524375)

u r so teh funny!

Its only natural (4, Insightful)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524211)

With IBMs large scale support for OSS , and its moves to replace the windows desktops with linux not to mention its sale of the PC business , Its only natural that they would move people on to an open browser.
What will be intresting to see is if this has a knock on effect to other large corperation as IBM is still very very influential.

This more than anything could be the break firefox needs toward wide scale acceptance beyond the 10% .Acceptance in the corperate market would mean a great deal of people will be using firefox at work , which would perhaps have the knock on effect of them using it at home .

When firefox has more than 30% of the market perhaps then we could relax in the knowlidge that most sites would then see fit to not specialise their code for IE .

Tech Support / Costs (4, Interesting)

RailGunner (554645) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524224)

I'd personally like to see an estimate on the costs savings of switching to Firefox from IE. It costs IT departments a lot of (wasted) money cleaning up desktops that have been compromised by a malicious ActiveX control.

Since I'm sure some bean counter had to approve the switching, it seems to me that some cost analysis had to be done, and they realized Firefox would have a lower "TCO".

I'm sure getting away from being dependent on a rival's product factored into the decision, but I'm pretty sure cost factored as well.

Blue Apps Still Use IE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524233)

.. far too much. But they've been working at stamping out the M$ dependencies. This announcement is further proof that effort is progressing.

After we get rid of all the intranet apps that rely on ActiveX, we can resume the push for Linux on the desktop!

Avant!

Re:Blue Apps Still Use IE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524464)

"After we get rid of all the intranet apps that rely on ActiveX, we can resume the push for Linux on the desktop!"

Isn't the problem less any specific technology use inside IBM, and more the fact that IBM has a large number of employees who are actually more loyal to Microsoft than IBM itself?

The sales of the desktop computer division probably did a good job of purging a good many of those type of employees.

Where did they get... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524238)

Where did they get the .msi to be able to roll it out on that many Windows XP workstations?

Re:Where did they get... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524301)

We don't use msi directly to do mass installs. We have an in-house technology that goes under the name "IBM Standard Software Installer" (ISSI). It does both push and pull, and uses multiple installer technologies on the client side.

Re:Where did they get... (0, Offtopic)

quantum bit (225091) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524387)

I've got one of 1.0.4 if you want it.

Message me if you're interested.

Wonder if Bill G regrets his OS/2 actions yet? (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524240)

Payback's a fox on fire ...

Oh, well, at least now he'll have the "freedom to innovate". About time ...

Oracle there for some time already... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524246)

Oracle has Firefox in the base image for over six months. That means its comming on all newly installed and reinstalled machines. In addition to that anybody can install firefox through standard application installer as any other application. Mozilla has been there for almost two years now. You get support for all applications in the base image through the IT support staff.

Woohoo (1)

certel (849946) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524247)

Great job FireFox. I've had all of the employees in our office use FireFox. I'm sick of fixing spyware infested machines - Why they should be on spyware sites is beyond me, but it sure helps.

Firefox on eComStation (2, Interesting)

user_ecs (878826) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524248)

I use Firefox on the eComStation operating system. Best browser on the best OS. www.ecomstation.com

Thinkpads (1)

Reducer2001 (197985) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524263)

We can only hope they'll begin pre-installing it on their Thinkpad products.

Re:Thinkpads (1)

jfengel (409917) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524299)

Except that IBM doesn't make Thinkpads any more. They sold that business to Lenovo [eweek.com] last week.

Will Firefox make it to the systems as default? (4, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524267)

Will Firefox make it to the computer systems IBM ships as the default browser? That will even be better. Can IBM flex muscles here? I doubt. The surest way of denting IE's share is by governments ordering PCs specifying that the browser installed should meet all W3C standards that the browser supports 100%. I understand that in procurement, specifying a product name is not allowed, so mentioning Firefox as the browser is a non-starter.

Re:Will Firefox make it to the systems as default? (1)

Rasta Prefect (250915) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524374)

Will Firefox make it to the computer systems IBM ships as the default browser? That will even be better.

On what? AS/400's? IBM just sold off its thinkpad line and I'm not sure they still ship desktops anymore either.

Re:Will Firefox make it to the systems as default? (2, Informative)

Slack3r78 (596506) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524400)

I love Firefox, but this approach will get you nowhere.

*NO* web browser in existence is 100% compatible W3C standards. Some are more compliant than others, but none of them are fully compliant, and Firefox has its quirks just like any other.

Re:Will Firefox make it to the systems as default? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524477)

I guess you get what the parent meant.

In that case, the system/browser that closest meets the most important features to the purchasing institution gets the deal. How about that? I am sure Firefox outperforms IE in this regard.

Re:Will Firefox make it to the systems as default? (1)

Suppafly (179830) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524427)

browser installed should meet all W3C standards that the browser supports 100%

Once you find a browser that meets that criteria, let us know, firefox certainly doesn't meet all w3c standards

Re:Will Firefox make it to the systems as default? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524468)

The surest way of denting IE's share is by governments ordering PCs specifying that the browser installed should meet all W3C standards that the browser supports 100%.

Actually, that won't dent Internet Explorer's share at all. No browser correctly implements HTML or CSS, for example. This means this requirement would be ignored and everybody would carry on using Internet Explorer.

For all the fanboys who want to point out that their browser correctly implements HTML: what does it do with this?

This is a <b/test/.

There are two browsers out there that render this properly. You probably haven't heard of either of them.

Re:Will Firefox make it to the systems as default? (1)

youknowmewell (754551) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524469)

Then there would be no browser installed, since not even Firefox or Safari or Opera support all the standards. What do you think the ACID2 test was all about?

IBMer here... (2, Informative)

Thaidog (235587) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524303)

Firefox now comes with the workstation build for all the L1 monitoring workstaions in ebiz ops. I used Firefox to monitor the NYSE website we host. I get my work done much faster than with IE ;)

Re:IBMer here... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524411)

Thanks for the information. Now people know what browser to target if they want to try to find a way to hack the NYSE. Does your manager know you post this kind of information to the net?

Think of all those firefox blue coders ... (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524310)

that's a lot of new code when you add it all up.

It's been available longer than that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524317)

its been available on the official repository for a couple months now. The first version I noticed there was 1.01, though, while I was already using 1.02 at the time.

And IBM used to have a number of internal IE-only sites, FYI.

They have a massive Linux migration underway (2, Interesting)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524342)

They've publicly announced they want to put Linux on every desktop. What browser do you think they're going to use? lynx?

how about having external support (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524371)

Try to apply for a job with IBM using anything other than IE. It doesn't work. IBM + Firefox will be news when they support it externally.

Firefox Updates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12524372)

I'm not sure if this feature is already implemented or is open on bugzilla, but something that would help out Firefox in the corporate setting would be a way to adjust the update downloads. Kind of like SUS Server for Windows which will pull updates for Windows and IE, somehow just download one copy of Firefox to the network, have the Firefox updater point to that location to check if an update is available.

It may save on bandwith going out from the company and coming in to the Mozilla mirrors. I'm not sure if its feasible, its just a thought.

IBM formalizing Firefox? (1)

linebackn (131821) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524404)

I don't know if this means that IBM is going to be involved in the direction that Firefox feature development might take, but if they are hopefully it might formalize Firefox more perhaps addressing some of the concerns of Mozilla Suite users (meaning more Firefox users! Yay!).

Interesting sequence of stories... (2, Funny)

lazlo (15906) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524441)

first there's "Internet Explorer's Share Dips Below 90%", and now we learn that "Firefox is already used by about 10 percent of IBM's staff". So, it seems that IBM's employees are a lot like the rest of the internet.

Nice remote managament (3, Insightful)

Tyrell Hawthorne (13562) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524458)

Hopefully, this might lead to IBM helping with developing good tools for remote management of Firefox. It would be very helpful for all the people having big deployments. If Firefox is to be ubiquitous, this is needed.

Next annoucement will be (1)

jlebrech (810586) | more than 9 years ago | (#12524475)

that IBM will start selling desktop computers again but with only linux installed. and rebadge them cost they sold their own name :D
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