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378 comments

apple sucks (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528842)

and tiger is shitty -MikeTROLL

Does that mean... (4, Funny)

pmazer (813537) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528844)

I can say "Tiger" again?

Re:Does that mean... (5, Funny)

DoraLives (622001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528893)

I can say "Tiger" again?

Only if you say it indirectly.

Re:Does that mean... (5, Funny)

gvc (167165) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528920)

Yes, but you still don't have enough free vocabulary to relate the opening scene from The Flintstones. As you may recall, Fred puts the tiger out but it re-enters the house, not through the door but through the winspire.

Re:Does that mean... (1)

arodland (127775) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529113)

I thought it was the Winstone. You'll be hearing from Ziff-Davis.

Re:Does that mean... (1)

jlebrech (810586) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529140)

And linspire will also for having a similar sounding name.

Re:Does that mean... (4, Funny)

macthulhu (603399) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528924)

I don't know... The 80 year old man that lived next to me as a child used to call me "Tiger"... That was 1974. You'll be hearing from my lawyers.

Re:Does that mean... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528937)

Your girlfriend calls me "Tiger"--more prior art :).

Re:Does that mean... (5, Funny)

antic (29198) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528957)


My neighbor used to call me the same thing, until I stopped leaping out of the bushes in his front yard and scratching at his face.

Even the judiciary loves Apple. (-1, Troll)

Ph33r th3 g(O)at (592622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528845)

If Microsoft trampled over a business' IP rights like this, they'd be hammered in the press, in blogs like this one, and harassed by the courts. But Apple can do it, and since they're all sweetness and light, they also get a pass on advocating DRM, making DMCA threats, and maintaining an OS monopoly. Go figure.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (0)

oberondarksoul (723118) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528869)

Maintaining an OS monopoly? Heh, yes, of course, because we all know there aren't other [yellowdoglinux.com] operating [bebits.com] systems [lowendmac.com] available for the Mac...

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (2, Insightful)

Ph33r th3 g(O)at (592622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528878)

So you concede then, that Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, because Linux is available for the PC. Fair enough.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1, Interesting)

oberondarksoul (723118) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528901)

When Apple deliberately prevent competing operating systems from working, I'll have my doubts. Microsoft, on the other hand, have been less than welcoming to competition in the past - remember the DR-DOS and Windows 3.1 incompatibility?

Apple make their own computers and are well within their rights to ship their own OS. Microsoft, on the other hand, forces OEMs to ship Windows, and uses decidedly underhand techniques to ensure their OS prevails.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1)

Ph33r th3 g(O)at (592622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528919)

I do remember the DR-DOS and Windows 3.1 issue. There was a version check in a *beta* of Windows 3.1 to ensure Windows 3.1 wasn't running on an unsupported OS. Of course, the fact that they encrypted the code didn't make them look so good, but lots of software checks the platform on which it's running and refuses to run on unsupported ones--while we may not like that, it doesn't lend itself to accusations of monopolistic practice.

With respect to OEMs, where can I buy my iMac at a discount if I don't want Mac OS X? They force me to buy OS X with the hardware, which is no different that what Microsoft is doing.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1)

cowscows (103644) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528963)

Yes, but MS was forcing that through another company. They were using their market share an importance in a market to set the business plans of companies that they had no direct ownership in. And they directed those companies not to even offer competing OS's. That's not cool. It's certainly anti-competitive.

No one is saying MS should be forced to offer X-box'es with linux preinstalled. They can ship them with whatever they like, they're manufacturing them and selling them. But when they tell Dell that every person who orders a computer there has to also buy a copy of windows, that's pretty crappy.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1)

Ph33r th3 g(O)at (592622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529010)

So if Microsoft buys Dell, then everything is cool. So the issue is that Microsoft "forced" a multi-billion dollar company to bundle its operating system. More likely, Microsoft offered Dell a deal, and Dell willingly took it. They probably pay $10 a box for Windows instead of $200, and pass that on whether the customer wants it or not (marked up a bit, of course). So again, it's pretty much the same thing as Apple's doing, without the technicality of Microsoft owning Dell.

(I wouldn't be surprised to see Microsoft buy a large PC manufacturer to get TCPA/NGCSB/Palladium off the ground, but that's neither here nor there. And mark my words, Apple will produce "trusted computers" once they've let Microsoft, Intel, and all take the PR flak.)

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (2, Informative)

oberondarksoul (723118) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529052)

You might want to have a look at this. A quote: [infoanarchy.org]

"It is technically possible for a manufacturer to install any number of operating systems on a computer. The user then has to choose which operating system to use during the boot process (after switching on the machine). However, Microsoft OEMs are only allowed to install Windows. No machines with both Windows and, for example, the free (!) operating system Linux, can legally be sold by OEMs."

Doesn't sound especially fair to anyone but Microsoft, that. Remember who the convicted monopolist is?

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1)

Ph33r th3 g(O)at (592622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529076)

So Apple's selling dual boot Linux systems now? If not, I still don't see a difference, other than that Microsoft was prosecuted and Apple wasn't.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (4, Informative)

oberondarksoul (723118) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529089)

Apple aren't, but you can buy a Mac running Linux from here. [terrasoftsolutions.com] They're an authorised Apple OEM. There you go.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1)

Ph33r th3 g(O)at (592622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529105)

But I still have to pay for OS X. It's not as if they allowed the dealer to unbundle it. So the effect is the same, except that with a Microsoft OEM, I might have to buy a CD from Cheapbytes if I want to install Linux.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (2, Insightful)

oberondarksoul (723118) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529141)

You asked for a dual-booting machine. Don't move the goalposts.

In any case, it is not the same. When you buy a computer from Apple, you are getting just that - an Apple. Apple have the right to ship whatever they want with their own computers. If Microsoft made a PC, they'd be allowed to ship Windows with it no matter what.

The problem is that other companies, building their own computers, are being forced to ship nothing but Windows - or they get no Windows at all. Now, if Apple forced other companies who made PPC board to ship the Mac OS, then maybe it would be similar.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528978)

Win 3.1 was prevented from running on DR-DOS, sounds much like the recent Real and Ipod saga. Microsoft prevented OEMs from distributing Windows AND other OSes at the same time, Apple does just the same - in both cases the after sales market isnt prevented from doing anything. Apple doesnt like competition any more than Microsoft.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (5, Insightful)

skingers6894 (816110) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528880)

IP rights? To the name "Tiger"?

Right.

Pardon? What intellectual property? (5, Insightful)

dscho (819239) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528881)

How could a term like "Tiger" in any non-judicial sense (such as common sense) ever be accused of being an intellectual property?

Re:Pardon? What intellectual property? (2, Funny)

jimicus (737525) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528982)

If you're a great big stripy cat with the power to rip out someones' guts with one swipe of razor-sharp claws, your name is damn well protected.

Not that sort of tiger?

Re:Pardon? What intellectual property? (1)

UrgleHoth (50415) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529049)

How could a term like "Tiger" in any non-judicial sense (such as common sense) ever be accused of being an intellectual property?

You mean common words like apple and windows?

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528892)

How is this anything but TigerDirect attempting to use a frivolous lawsuit to gain some free advertising? If you do a little bit of digging you will find the use of Tiger goes back farther than either of these two companies.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (1, Redundant)

Clanner (24684) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528915)

I don't see how naming an operating system after after an animal is trampling anybody's IP rights. Last time I checked, the word "tiger" was a common english word- it's not Apple's problem that TigerDirect choose that word to be part of their name. Besides, do you really think anyone was confused about Mac OS X Tiger and TigerDirect?

And as far as being hammered, Apple does get hammered, and rightly so, when it comes to DMCA threats, etc. Apple certainly is far from perfect or an ideal corporate citizen. But all-in-all, I think they are better than Microsoft when it comes to their corporate citizenship.

Re:Even the judiciary loves Apple. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528999)

-1, Flamebait (dares to criticize Apple)

both people (-1, Redundant)

forceflow501 (810122) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528846)

lol both people who held repect for tigerdirect.

So... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528847)

So it looks like TigerDirect's injuction was nothing but a paper tiger.

You Mean 2 (-1, Flamebait)

wanebo (779278) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528848)

People still had respect for TigerDirect? With the crap they sell?

They still have a shot. (5, Funny)

wls (95790) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528853)

Next up, TigerDirect sues Microsoft for using the word Direct in DirectX.

Nope, they are being sued themselves by T-Com ... (3, Funny)

dscho (819239) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528894)

... for their use of the letter "T"

Re:They still have a shot. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528960)

Apple have been dying ever since Steve 'rim' Jobs founded it. Although it may have a fancy GUI, OSX is not any more functional than Windows 3.x and is on average 5 times less than reliable. This is mainly due to poorly written proprietry code hashed onto a stolen communist operating system - linux. To complement the inferior software, Apple sells hardware which is generations behind its equivilant PC counterparts - albeit disguised in white enclosures which it markets as 'trendy'. Unfortunately they can at best be described as gay. One can only hope that Apple throw in the towel soon and recall their entire product range before there are any more victims of fires caused by their inferior products. APPLE IS TEH SUXXORS

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Re:They still have a shot. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529043)

Don't feed the trolls.

This is not personal. They have to protect it. (5, Insightful)

tempshill (413165) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529051)

On trademark infringement, companies don't sue other companies to try to cash in. They do it because if they don't attempt to protect their trademark, courts will rule that it isn't a trademark anymore and isn't protectible. Aspirin, Zipper.

Slashdot Denies Request For Less Pro-Apple Bias (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528855)

I heard that both people who still held respect for Slashdot no longer do.

Re:Slashdot Denies Request For Less Pro-Apple Bias (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528875)

Apple biased news, Microsoft ads, and linux-zealotry readership. This site really adds up well.

Watch Out... (5, Funny)

MarkMcLeod (759072) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528857)

Tony the Tiger, you're next!

Re:Watch Out... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528873)

Grrrrreeeaaat!

Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528863)

Good way to ruin one's business name.

Unnecessary comments (0, Troll)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528867)

"I heard that both people who still held respect for TigerDirect no longer do."

While i agree with what you're saying, but don't you expect us to be able figure this obvious fact out for ourselves?

If it's news for nerds, keep this kind of commentary out of it please.

Re:Unnecessary comments (0, Offtopic)

0x461FAB0BD7D2 (812236) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528896)

First, let us both agree that killing two birds with one stone is a good thing. Second, let us recognize that "News for nerds" and "Stuff that matters" are two things.

Then logically, putting that kind of commentary in article summaries is clearly killing both "birds", "News of nerds" and "Stuff that matters", which we agreed was a good thing.

Re:Unnecessary comments (5, Insightful)

cowscows (103644) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528908)

I generally think the editor's comments are annoying attempts by them to try and sound funnier and smarter than they really are.

But this one at least made me smile. Lighten up. It's their website, not yours. They've been adding commentary like this for years, most of it's dumb, sure, but that's how the world works.

Re:Unnecessary comments (-1, Offtopic)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528987)

It's their website, thats true. They can disable the ability of mine to post comments if they don't like what i'm saying, that would be well within their rights.

What i'm saying is that they are running the site, but slashdot is above all, a community. If they decide to close it, they are free to do but until that moment it doesn't cease to be one, with the good and bad parts alltogether.

Re:Unnecessary comments (3, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528928)

Are you insane! How will the slashbots know what the current group think is without the asinine comments!

Re:Unnecessary comments (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528977)

hey.. man this is an edgy news source.. get used to it. it's how you know you're getting real news.

Re:Unnecessary comments (4, Insightful)

mattdm (1931) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529009)

If it's news for nerds, keep this kind of commentary out of it please.

*Man* do we need a "Haha you're new here" moderation for these kinda comments. This isn't a journalism site -- it's an entertainment and discussion site. I damn well *expect* there to be snide partisan commentary from the editors (a poorly-chosen job title, but oh well -- deal with it).

Telling the difference between the two (4, Funny)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528872)

Judge Lenard said "any given customer who cross-shops TigerDirect and Apple, whether over the internet or in person at their retail local stores, will be able to distinguish their respective retail outlets due to the distinctive differences in their marketplaces' appearance and messages."

Need proof? Look at the shiny polished Slashdot logo at the top. When was the last time you looked at that and thought "Oh, I'm in the TigerDirect section of Slashdot!"

Re:Telling the difference between the two (1)

rpozz (249652) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528905)

Yes, TigerDirect are being absolute dicks about it. Even a complete idiot could tell the difference.

Anyway, use the usual way to deal with people like that. If enough slashdot users don't ever do business with them, then hopefully they'll learn, and maybe it'll set an example.

Re:Telling the difference between the two (1)

slantyyz (196624) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529120)

While I never thought TigerDirect had much of a case, their attempt did bring a smile to my face.

They have also been known to use their legal eagles as bullies.

It's good to see that what comes around, goes around.

Re:Telling the difference between the two (1)

pmazer (813537) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529117)

Also, TigerDirect is a store, OSX Tiger is a product sold at a store...

This is dumb. (5, Insightful)

Entropius (188861) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528879)

The number of trademarkable things is increasing daily, as more people go into business making more products.

The number of words in the English language, however, remains the same.

Just a namespace collision isn't evidence of trademark infringement. That requires (or should require -- I gave up on learning the details of IP law once I realized that it made no sense) one company to choose their name specifically to leech off another successful name.

Tigerdirect has been around since before Apple picked the name Tiger.

Apple wouldn't want anything to be named after such a shitty company.

So what's the deal?

Re:This is dumb. (4, Interesting)

cowscows (103644) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528933)

The deal is that TigerDirect saw the possibility of some easy money, hoping that just the threat of an injunction so close to Tiger's release would scare Apple into sending them some cash just to forget about the whole thing. Apple didn't bite. And a judge didn't fall for it either.

So TigerDirect revealed themselves as a bunch of jackasses, and the courts worked as they're supposed to. Yay!

Re:This is dumb. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529107)

No, they saw an opportunity to protect their trademark, so they don't lose it. And the people that lose respect for them are simpletons that deserve Apple, in all its one button glory.

What brand of kleenex do you buy?

Re:This is dumb. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529112)

finally...someone reasonable. Tough to find in the comments, these days...

Re:This is dumb. (5, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528947)

Bullshimble!
The English language is evolving.com all the time, and new words are addendumated every year into the lexicolon.

Re:This is dumb. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529132)

Though I doubt anyone will want to call their company Bullshimble.

Re:This is dumb. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528948)

Tigerdirect obviously felt it had nothing to lose in trying. Even if they didn't get the injunction, they got some free publicity. Why else would they sue Apple only one day before Apple released "Tiger?"

Re:This is dumb. (1)

damsa (840364) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529019)

The second test for infringement is likelihood of confusion. How likely are people going to get confused between TigerDirect and Tiger. The judge said, not that many. So Apple wins.

hah (0, Redundant)

Gillious (723833) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528883)

There were people who still respected Tiger Direct?

Tiger Direct owns errno.h (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528885)

Pay up, freeloaders.

-AC

respect (0, Flamebait)

sanosuke001 (640243) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528887)

shit... TigerDirect EARNED my respect for suing Apple

we need article moderation (-1, Troll)

Xarius (691264) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528898)

Mod the post -1: flamebait

Marketing budget (0, Flamebait)

Marcion (876801) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528902)

"According to court documents, over the last year Apple has spent over $50 million to orchestrate a carefully planned marketing campaign and product launch of Mac OS X 10.4."

Considering how much FOSS there is in OS X, surely more has been spent on advertising OS X than has been directly spent on developing OS X between .3 and .4.

I have mod points (4, Insightful)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528907)

So where can I moderate Cowboyneals comments on this story?

Re:I have mod points (5, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528981)

So where can I moderate Cowboyneals comments on this story?

In your hosts file.

Something like this should suit you nicely :)

64.236.24.28 slashdot.org

Re:I have mod points (5, Funny)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528996)

And now Im in a wierd position, I would *love* to moderate you for that comment (up incase youi were wondering) but I cant because Ive commented, but you wouldnt have made that comment if I hadnt commented, so I couldnt have moderated you if I hadnt commented. Oh well :)

Re:I have mod points (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529047)

Let's make it a bit more twisted with some time travel, it is all too simple at the moment.

Re:I have mod points (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529027)

As funny?

But seriously, can anyone deny the asshattery of TigerDirect's lawsuit?

Re:I have mod points (1)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529060)

I think you just did .
personly it gave me a good chuckle (+3 funny) .
The nature of slashdot really allows us to put our views down on the story in words as opposed to numbers .
I found the story intresting as its good to see that atleast some trivial time-wasting lawsuits go down the pan.
Though your post raised an intresting point on should slashdot storys be subject to moderation.
It would be great if they were , it would allow us to filter storys even further.

I wouldn't take Cowboyneils comments to heart though ,i think it was a just a quip .

Theft of shell's marketing ip!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528913)

Put a tiger in your tank!

What the future holds (2, Insightful)

LP_Tux (845172) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528929)

Will companies and products have to have numbers in place of names? After all just about everything is trademarked these days until you decide to invent words... Right now I'm off to buy a 5759852850 by 1284257630530. See you later...

TigerDirect ads (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528934)

As I type this there is a TigerDirect banner ad at the top of my Slashdot page...

I'm sure there's some witty comment I could be making here, but I have no idea what it is.

How about a TigersDirect.Com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12528951)

A dot-com site selling live tigers, tiger statues, etc, online.

Re:How about a TigersDirect.Com (1)

dhandler (577511) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529114)

Well - you are close: www.5tigers.org www.tiger.to www.tigers.co.uk Lawyers - sharpen up your pencils!

I never bough from TigerDirect, and now.... (1, Insightful)

borgheron (172546) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528953)

I never will.

In a society run by lawyers, no one seems to get along.

GJC

Re:I never bough from TigerDirect, and now.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529092)

I'd rather a society run by lawyers than one run by generals.

No respect (0, Troll)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528966)

I heard that both people who still held respect for TigerDirect no longer do.

Well, with snipeing like this right the news portion of a Slashdot "news" story, I certainly hold no respect for CowboyNeal and have nothing but disgust for wallykeyster. There are two side to this issue. No matter what you believe the proper outcome should be, one has to admit that Tiger did get a trademark on the name for software use well before Apple used it for exactly that. And the above quoted statement is simply a lie. Although I doubt that Tiger would ever have any good software sold under the Tiger trademark, I certainly respect their right to trademark the name and to try to protect that trademark.

Re:No respect (2)

almostmanda (774265) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529031)

Right, except Apple was also granted a trademark in 2003 for the use of "tiger" in reference to an operating system. Why didn't Tiger Direct take action then? Oh, I know, because this is a blatant PR grab.

Yeah, and... (4, Insightful)

interactive_civilian (205158) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529062)

Apple had long been calling the things that opened in their Operating Systems "Windows" long before Microsoft ventured away from the DOS prompt.

What exactly is your point?

AFAICT, Tiger Direct does not market an operating system under their name, and it seems quite obvious that Apple is not using the word "Direct" in any of their marketing or naming strategies.

Again I ask, what exactly is your point?

Trademarks only reach so far, and Tiger Direct's does not (rightly IMHO) reach far enough. Next thing you know, African tour operators will be trying to sue Apple over the name of their browser, the French will be trying to sue Apple over their chosen name for autoconfig, mathemeticians and philosophers the world over will be trying to sue Apple over the name of their (bought out) music software, auto makers will be suing them over the use of the term "dashboard", etc. etc. etc.

Trademarks only go so far.

I look forward to the day... (0, Redundant)

LP_Tux (845172) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528973)

When they try to sue the oxford dictionary for including the word tiger...

Re:I look forward to the day... (4, Funny)

cpghost (719344) | more than 9 years ago | (#12528995)

Yeah: imagine a dictionary full of (C)s and (R)s:

Tigers(C) (Panthera tigris(R)) are mammals of the Felidae(TM) family, one of four "big cats"(R)(C) that belong to the Panthera(R) genus. Tigers(R) are "predatory carnivores"(TM)

Re:I look forward to the day... (1)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529012)

Imagine if someone would register (TM), (R) and (C)! Recursive endless loop!

Re:I look forward to the day... (0)

arodland (127775) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529137)

Except that there's no requirement to print(C) on anything, anywhere, and the only uses of (TM) and (R) are for a business to protect its own trademarks (on the grounds that if you don't label your trademarks prominently as such, then you're not doing enough to prevent them from becoming common words).

Tiger.. (1)

wzeallor (837325) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529001)

missed another cut :-(

Funny (5, Insightful)

Zebra_X (13249) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529042)

If the tables were turned, I'm sure apple would do the same thing to tiger direct. Apple has quite a colorful litigeous history.

MOD THIS UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529136)

The comment is so simple, yet so elequently points out the facts of corporate America.

blah blah blah... (4, Insightful)

east coast (590680) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529044)

From the blurb: "I heard that both people who still held respect for TigerDirect no longer do.

From my dealing of people who put TigerDirect first on their lists I doubt that many of the TigerDirect customer base give a damn about either Apple or Geek politics. Let's not take ourselves too seriously here.

TigerDirect in the Wrong? (0)

saterdaies (842986) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529055)

TigerDiret is a company that I would never do business with, but do you really think their case has no basis in this case? I mean, when Apple came out with Jaguar, they weren't allowed to market it as Jaguar in Brittain because of Jaguar cars. Now that case had no basis and yet Jaguar cars got their way. Here, TigerDirect uses the name "Tiger" for computer stuff. Apple is also trying to use it for computer stuff. The founder of RedHat said he'd license the trademark to Apple for free, but his trademark comes from sports, not computing.

TigerDirect has a pretty good case here. Apple is using a name they used before Apple in the same industry. Could I come out with an operating system called OS X? Apple doesn't have anything called OS X, but they do have a Mac OS X. By the same token, TigerDirect doesn't have anything named Tiger, but they do have TigerDirect. While this case might not have been good enough for an injunction, that is a far cry from saying that the case is baseless.

As a lifelong Mac user (until this Linux box which will be replaced by another Mac soon), this is one of those cases where Apple just didn't do their research. Apple didn't mean to do anything bad, but they picked a name that was already being used in their industry. It was a mistake. Apple doesn't want to fix it because they have put a lot of money into the Tiger name. It's a crappy situation for all.

Can we combine SCO and Tiger... (1)

OSXexpert (859428) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529058)

Scigger?

Re:Can we combine SCO and Tiger... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12529073)

Nah, nigger is better, from "naughty tiger".


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Testing the tolerance of americans since 1998.

Wonder what would happen if I created AppleDirect? (4, Insightful)

PocketPick (798123) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529083)

Oh, I'm sure Apple wouldn't have a problem that.

Way to put salt in my wounds. (1)

fr2asbury (462941) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529087)

I'm still pissed about going all the way down to Comerica Park last night just to have the Tiger's (Detroit Baseball) game rained out.
Now here comes Slashdot yelling "Tiger Tiger Tiger" at me.

Re:Way to put salt in my wounds. (1)

JenovaSynthesis (528503) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529146)

Did you enjoy the cocktail onion sized hail at least?

Beware TigerDirect (0, Troll)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529094)


If you buy something from TigerDirect online, you will be asked, in the very last field of the last window, for the last four digits of your social security number. At that point, you either have to abandon the results of your shopping efforts, or provide private information that could be used for identity theft.

Orders can be canceled only by calling TigerDirect, and they are reluctant to cancel.

That is my experience. I ordered something from the company, but then decided to cancel, because the length of the warranty was very unclear. I finally decided that the company does not seem reputable enough for me to feel comfortable buying from them.

they got two things out of this (4, Interesting)

SideshowBob (82333) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529116)

1) Assloads of publicity from suing Apple. Suing the fruity one always gets you some attention no matter how frivolous.

2) The precedent of defending their trademark. So if another catalog retailer ever comes along with a name that really does infringe, they can't say that TigerDirect failed to protect their TM.

Bye Bye (0, Troll)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529131)

Screw them.

This little publicity stunt already backfired with bad press, rather than free brand exposure.

Lets all boycott them a bit. See if the slashdot community is strong enough to put them out of business.

IMHO any company who goes to this length to get their name in the news has no place in business.

Nobody needs this level of stupidity. It's a waste of court time, and money (which us consumers eventually end up paying for).

Tiger -- (come on sue me)

Editorial (2, Interesting)

northcat (827059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12529139)

I heard that both people who still held respect for TigerDirect no longer do.

That's right, CowboyNeal, say what everyone wants to hear. It'll drive up the ad revenue.
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