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NCSoft Launches New Game Sites

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the everything-old-is-new-again dept.

Role Playing (Games) 29

The font of information that is E3 has dredged up two new sites for NCSoft's upcoming mmogs. City of Villains and Tabula Rasa both have new sites up with extensive new pieces of information. Tabula Rasa, in particular, seems to have undergone some massive changes. Where once TR featured screenshots of light spaces and beautiful creatures, the game that the site appears to show off is a gritty hell. It will be interesting to see what other changes have found their way into Garriot's newest project.

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Pour me a tall FROSTY PISS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12563772)

Yes, Batman, I really enjoy my piss tall and frosty, much like they serve at the tavern in City of Villains. Why, a good tall Pint of Piss +30 does fine on a hot day.

I'm all about action MMOGS (1, Interesting)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 9 years ago | (#12563777)

I'll definately have to pick up Tabula Rasa. Action MMOGS are definately the wave of the future. I played Planetside. And while most RPG ethusiasts agree that the grind to get to maximum level should take several months to years, Planetside believed that the optimal play time should be one day. The funny thing about action MMOGS is that you can make the grind longer because people won't notice it because they'll be too busy playing a game.

The only fun thing about Planetside was I was playing it at the beginning when everyone was new. I found a killer strat early on and abused it. One of the funnest things to do in MMOGS is to abuse an overpowered strategy in PK before anyone finds out about it. Basically I'd have runs in a tank where I'd kill up to 50 people before I was killed. And when I wanted to get really cheap, I'd camp a respawn booth with a super shotgun. They respawn and boom they're dead. Pretty cheap stuff, but good for a few thrills.

That tank... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12563919)

THAT WAS YOU?!!!!!!!!

(j/k ;)

Re:I'm all about action MMOGS (1)

CrazyJim2 (857610) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570337)

I've been thinking about this very issue a lot. I quit my job this morning and have decided to become a game designer. I have complex theories on putting 3rd person-style action, like found in Tekken or Tekken 3, into a MMOG. I think that, in addition to my abilities to invent awesome stuff, I can bring a level of world classiness to the game design field. I also have lots of old school roleplaying books, so you can see how I've got pedigree. This is starting to sound like a resume! Ha ha ha! So in conclusion, I'm awesome and True A.I. in five easy steps!

I want to believe (2, Interesting)

incest (622529) | more than 9 years ago | (#12563782)

To this day, Ultima V is one of those games that I remember fondly, and would play again (if I could get the damn thing to run on modern hardware, that is)*. I have the cloth map filed away in my filing cabinet, and in theory, I still have the coin somewhere, I think (Ultima V came with a free coin; ostensibly because the player, the Avatar, was called to Brittania with it). Richard Garriot really had something with the Ultima series. It had some real class. You don't get cloth maps and crazy "magic" coins these days (Or cheesy, but thoughtful, pieces of obsidian--the transportation device of Ultima VI). Sigh. Now all the boxes are tiny and they just contain a game CD case, a manual, and a lot of promotional material.

Is Garriot gonna do a non-MMO game again someday? Does anyone know if that's in the works? Not to knock the whole 'Net thang, but MMO games just don't suit my fancy.

*Dear nerds: I'm too lazy to do this, not too stupid. And yes, I have a legal copy of the game.

Re:I want to believe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12563921)

your best bet to get that going again should you ever feel the need is dosbox [] take you about 30 seconds

Re:I want to believe (1)

MacroRex (548024) | more than 9 years ago | (#12564257)

It's sad but true that most games nowadays are packaged like you describe. However, not all of them. I'm a happy owner of the World of Warcraft Collector's Edition. It comes with a ton of extra stuff besides the game (too lazy to list them all, see for yourself [] ), and yes, it includes a cloth map :)

The absolutely amazing hard-cover art book was alone well worth the price difference.

Re:I want to believe (1)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 9 years ago | (#12569222)

Re: Ultima V: The DOS version works wonderfully in DOSBox [] . You just need to set "cycles" to low enough number since U5 doesn't have a frame limiter so you may want an artificially slow emulation speed - but the fact that you're in a slow emulator environment already might help.

And the project to watch for in the future is Neat Ultima V [] , which is what xu4 is for Ultima IV and exult is for Ultima VII - though unlike those projects nu5 doesn't even have any kind of release.

Tabula Rosa (1)

MrWa (144753) | more than 9 years ago | (#12563798)

From the sounds of it, someone in Korea decided to try making a game that appeals to everyone - in process, probably making a game that will appeal to no one.

Role-playing game fans will enjoy a game design that focuses more on depth than complexity, with an immersive story and rich character growth driven by player choices.
An RPG with minimal stats, leaving the post-EQ MMORPG fan out in the cold. "What?! You mean I have to roleplay a character?!"
First person shooter fans who crave a richer gaming experience will appreciate a massively multiplayer game that is reactive to player choices and allows for a broad range of character movement. They'll also find FPS standards including explosions, vehicles and big guns.
Explosions! Big guns! Reactive to player choices?! Huh? As opposed a game that simply ignores the players, which is what most people have grown to love.
Massively multiplayer online game fans will enjoy being able to garner rare collectibles and inventory, a large community to interact with, and frequently updated content to both the game and the storyline. we go. Phat loot! Massive online community of people you can whine with on our company message board! Frequently (by that we mean maybe once a year for free - paid expansions to contain any real content) updates!

From the initial hope of Garriot creating a company and starting Tabula Rosa - Blank Slate! A fresh start! - to the shock at NCSoft buying the nascent company, to this rethinking of the game entirely is almost as painful as the sudden cancellation of UO2.

Appeals to everyone/no one? (1)

spineboy (22918) | more than 9 years ago | (#12564039)

People have become bored with the existing types of games. Games like Save - a first person shooter, AND a CC variant, did remarkedly well. The servers are as crowded as they have ever been.

From what I've seen of the video footage - it looks fantastic. City of Heroes by NCSoft can get a little timely to progress, as do most MMORPGs, so I hope that they make leveling a little more speedy.

I give credit to NCSoft for trying to come up with a new genre, or at least variant , of the mostly similar games out there today.

Re:Tabula Rosa (1)

Synbiosis (726818) | more than 9 years ago | (#12564063)

NCsoft is a Korean *publisher*. The development teams for both City of Villians and Tabula Rasa are based in the US. Do your research.

Re:Tabula Rosa (1)

ultramk (470198) | more than 9 years ago | (#12566313)

The name of the game is "Tabula Rasa" i.e., "blank slate".

"Tabula Rosa" would mean "pink slate." I'm not sure what kind of game that would imply.


Re:Leveling Treadmill (1)

vertinox (846076) | more than 9 years ago | (#12568610)

An RPG with minimal stats, leaving the post-EQ MMORPG fan out in the cold.

You know what? After 100 single player and about 5 MMOGs games of nothing but leveling throughout my life it's safe to say...

I'm bloody kind of sick and tired of bloody leveling!

I think EQ burnt me out. Sure Marrowind Elder Scrolls for the Xbox was kind of fun to level... And Shadowbane was just easy so it wasn't a chore.

But out of all the MMOG games I would have to say Ultima Online had the best damned system for character development since you could just play the game without having to kill things over and over just to get stronger just to kill more things.

The urge to make another 60 level character for anyone on any game gets very low when you think about the tedious effort it takes when you start from scratch on a new game.

Seriously... Diku MUD leveling is a 20 year old (if not older system) we need to have more innovation that Kill, Kill, Heal Heal, Ding, Ding!

Kylie Minogue has breast cancer (0, Offtopic)

Justabit (651314) | more than 9 years ago | (#12563852)

4th post.

..don't forget Auto Assault. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12563878)

If the article is going to mention TR and City Of Villains, it should also mention NCSoft's other upcoming MMO - Auto Assault [] .

And since I couldn't find it on those game's official sites, here are the ship dates from EBGames (which I'm sure aren't accurate, but hey):

* City Of Villains - 08/15/2005 []
* Auto Assault - 09/01/2005 []
* TR - 02/15/2006 []

This could get expensive. :(

(Although for the moment I'm still quite enjoying Guild Wars [] )

Re:..don't forget Auto Assault. (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570974)

This could get expensive.

Not for me. Not cross-platform == not interested.

There are not many Mac gamers, but there are a few. I can play World of Warcraft on a PC side-by-side on the same server with my Mac-playing friends, and can use my iBook to play it when I'm away from home, therefore WoW wins until something better comes along which works on both PC's and Macs.

Too bad. There's a lot that I like about City of Heroes, but I'm only going to pay the monthly fee on one game at a time.

NCSoft does not appear to share Blizzard's enthusiasm for reaching the Mac market, and they won't see a dime from me until that changes.

A commonality... (2, Interesting)

syrion (744778) | more than 9 years ago | (#12563902)

It seems that all MMORPGs have a voluptuous woman who appears as the main character in all of their advertisements and posters. See: Everquest, Final Fantasy XI, PlanetSide, World of Warcraft, Lineage II, and now Tabula Rasa. Amazing.

I wonder if she'll dance like Alizée, too?

Re:A commonality... (2, Funny)

Synbiosis (726818) | more than 9 years ago | (#12564071)

"It seems that all MMORPGs have a voluptuous woman who appears as the main character in all of their advertisements and posters." Heh, my philosophy for MMOG's: If I'm going to stare at an ass for hundreds of hours, it better be a hot ass.

Re:A commonality... (4, Funny)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 9 years ago | (#12564188)

Agreed! And people think playing female in an MMO is a sign of repressed homosexual tendancies. Come on it's an obvious sign of lecherous heterosexual deviance.

Re:A commonality... (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570913)

Come on it's an obvious sign of lecherous heterosexual deviance.

Except for those who go out of their way to point out that they are "just doing it to look at the girl's butts" by posting stuff like that.

They are probably closet gays in most cases.

Just sayin' is all.

Re:A commonality... (1)

Quarters (18322) | more than 9 years ago | (#12564655)

So you're Scott Kurtz? 'Cause that's his joke [] .

Re:A commonality... (1)

Synbiosis (726818) | more than 9 years ago | (#12567478)

It is? I've never read PvP. =P

Re:A commonality... (1)

Issue9mm (97360) | more than 9 years ago | (#12567568)

I too have made the same statement (to my wife no less) before, and also do not read PvP. Perhaps it's not so much a joke as it is ... REAL LIFE?!?!? OMG.


Re:A commonality... (1)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570531)

This joke predates Scott Kurtz by YEARS. It's been bandied about the MMO world for a long time.

Re:A commonality... (1)

L7_ (645377) | more than 9 years ago | (#12568752)

While Shadowbane's was originally a grey muscled minotaur, they have since moved to vampiric seducresses with thier expansion packs.

(I know noone plays SB, but hey)

It's "Gritty", it's "Dark", it's "Fecking Clich (2, Funny)

iainl (136759) | more than 9 years ago | (#12564597)

"Where once TR featured screenshots of light spaces and beautiful creatures, the game that the site appears to show off is a gritty hell."

Oh Bloody Hell Not Again. What is it with every single producer of games, TV and film deciding that everything has to use the buzzwords Gritty, Dark, Sexy and Noir to pitch itself now. Ubisoft ruining Prince Of Persia is just one of many and varied examples. Even bloody Star Wars has to end on a downer just to keep the Fincher fanboys happy.

Re:It's "Gritty", it's "Dark", it's "Fecking Clich (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12566271)

Even bloody Star Wars has to end on a downer just to keep the Fincher fanboys happy.

Well in ROtS, you have the total subversion of a representative government, and destruction of a order of warrior-monks devoted to do-gooding. All of this is the culmination of one man's longterm plans to grab power and rule the galaxy with an iron fist. How exactly are you planning to portray this in a "happy" film?

Oh and it's not just a reaction to the times either, the first Star Wars had the subtitle "A New Hope". That and the allusions to the events before the what is pictured in the film indicate that the previous episodes (if they were made at all) would be somewhat bleak.

Technically, the Star Wars movies end with ROtJ. While ewoks might be a downer to some people, they certainly are not "Gritty" or "Noir".

Re:It's "Gritty", it's "Dark", it's "Fecking Clich (1)

ameoba (173803) | more than 9 years ago | (#12569019)

It's pretty amazing how much of a difference there is between the old TR and the new TR. The old TR seemed like it was going to be some sort of freeform RPG in a quasi-utopian world. The new one is going to be an FPS/RPG in a "IN THE GRIM FUTURE OF HELLO KITTY, THERE IS ONLY WAR" world.

Re:It's "Gritty", it's "Dark", it's "Fecking Clich (1)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570636)

I would argue that Star Wars doesn't really have any other way to "end" (well um in this case the end being a middle) since we already know Anakin turns into Darth Vader and have since 1980.
I defintately agree with you on the in terms of games. Despite good reviews, I just didn't want to touch the latest Prince of Persia because of the stupid visual style. What the hell is wrong with the Arabian nights look? Maybe selling an Arabian themed game is difficult in these times of turmoil in the middle east?
I won't even bring up the Shadow the hedgehog game Sega is working on (oops I just did).
Tabula Rasa looks like some Unreal/Starship Troopers sort of thing now. I guess they really didn't like the way the game was going, because it looks like they completely changed it.
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