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LPIC 1 Exam Cram 2

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the yes-that's-a-title dept.

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rednuhter writes "LPIC 1 Exam Cram 2 is the authoritative tree-based text to aid and abet interested parties accomplishing a LPI LPIC level 1 certification, Which (roughly translated) is the first (not quite open source) Linux exam for junior (intermediate) sysadmins; more information is available at Linux Professional Institute. It is (currently) the only (up to date) printed guide for the Linux Professional Institute Certification (LPIC) Level 1 exam." Read on for the rest of rednuhter's review.The LPI is a non-profit organization bringing high-quality Linux certification to the masses, including multilingual exams across continents. LPIC Level 1 is designed to certify a junior sysadmin in Linux and is composed of two exams. This first level (101) has an optional (minor) 'branch' of either RPM or DEB package management, with RPM being used on predominately Red Hat-based systems and DEB being the preferred method for Debian based systems. The second level (102) is much more 'on the job' administration duties (see LPIC objectives).

I purchased the book last year after deciding I had no reason to try and keep my windows 95 MCP up to date and wishing to (formally) extend my Linux knowledge. I hit a wrong turn after spending quality time with Que's "General Linux 1" [ISBN]0-78972292-5] to find (as I went to book the exam) the format and topics had changed a fair amount in four years (LPI is constantly evolving...).

It was fine book with some good Lab sections, however it was not preparing me for the onslaught that is the seriously tough LPIC Level 1 exam. After a quick rant in the LPI mailing lists, a friendly poster [ross@brunson.org] noted that a book did exist (recently printed) that accumulated one of the premier LPI Linux trainers knowledge and experience, and by no coincidence he was the author.

My previous guide had been only 340 pages long so I was concerned to find this was closer to 600! Luckily the author wastes nothing, with a considerably helpful introduction, followed by details of the LPIC 101 (both flavors) and the 102 exam culminating in the full LPIC Level 1.

The first half of the book is dedicated to the 101 exam, which is the first part of the LPIC level 1 certifications. This included a lot of trouble-shooting steps for basic booting of Linux with hardware configuration and included vi usage (key strokes, buffers, regular expressions), XFree86 (config and understanding) to text processing with tee, tac, sed etc. The detail involved also dipped into modems, CHAP scripts, hardware identification, jobs, processes, chmod, grep, exit statuses and much much more. This also where the RPM/DEB specifics some in; although I have used Debian for many years I opted to take the RPM exam simply because I believe RPM is more widely commercially used, not that I think it is a better packaging system. These skills are an excellent grounding for basic Linux use and understanding, giving rounded knowledge of all the key areas a Linux user should be aware of.

Each chapter has an example exam and the author often makes use of these to introduce new ideas and concepts to encourage the user to research further. These answers are accompanied by explanations of not only why the right answers were correct, but why the wrong answers were incorrect.

The second half of the book (after a quick 66-question 101 test exam) is much more geared to a junior sysadmin and I found it quite hard going. Topics range from runlevels, daemons, users/groups, kernel compilation, modules, shells, scripting, networking, services, printing and security. As you may imagine, some of these topics are quite extensive and I personally found this half much more difficult to absorb. Note there is only one 102 LPIC exam, there is no RPM/DEB choice. This list does not really do the subject matter justice, as it goes into such things as custom subnet masks, network time utilities, Apache, sendmail, crontabs and even more.

This was followed by a set of 77 test 102 questions with both a quick answer key and a complete set of explanations.

The book includes a pull-out Cram Sheet which can help you memorize things such as the IRQ/IO address for serial ports, the different man page sections and common printer commands.

The author also notes how best to prepare for taking and even resitting the exam (the LPI has a concise retake policy).

The actual exam questions and areas are weighted, and you should ensure you review for the heavily weighted sections at least as much if not more that the lower-weighted ones.

The key 'trick' to passing the exams is to have tried the commands yourself and seen the results, I cannot emphasize this enough! The LPI 'seems' to favor (currently) 2.4.x kernels in the FHS File Hierarchy Standard RPM and DEB varieties, I did most of my investigation either with Knoppix via qemu(in windows) or Debian sid running the 2.6.x kernel. (However, most topics are vendor/distribution neutral and kernel and other obvious differences are noted.)

Although this book contains a lot of examples, it is not for beginners, unless you want to base your Linux learning on it. Sysadmins will find it too simple in places, but should not be complacent as they will find some knowledge nuggets buried that will ultimately help them pass the exams.

The book is easy to read, with some real-world examples that are ideal to reinforce the information presented. (It has been noted that practice lab sections could have been included; see author reply here)

Unfortunately, there are a fair number of misprints, technical inaccuracies and spelling mistakes current errata but a quick session with man will set you straight and very few directly spoil the otherwise accuracy of the book (the author notes that a second reprint is addressing these).

The CD comes with the obligatory PDF version of the book and a test program, this has caused some problems for some Linux users although fixes are now available. The test program tries to recreate the testing environment, with optional timer and instant result features. I personally found it very useful to identify areas I was weak in and required further investigation.

The book does a good job not to stray off into GPL licensing or any other non (LPIC Level 1) related topic, leaving further investigation up to the reader offering links where relevant.

It took me about 15-20 hours to revise for the 101 RPM exam and I passed with (apx) 96% where as the revision for the 102 exam was over a much longer period (and a more turbulent part of my life) taking about 40-50 hours which gave me a (apx) pass of 86% (remember the questions are weighted, my percentage scores are simply against the number of questions I got right and makes me feel good).

Preparing you for the LPI LPIC level 1 exams (part 1(RPM/DEB) and part 2)

Not only did I find the book easy to get on with and an indispensable asset for passing the exam but it has had pride of place on my desktop and makes an excellent reference tome.

The LPI website does now list Ross's book and there are various other resources available for a quick google, or just wait for the Slashdot crowd to fill up the comments below.


You can purchase LPIC 1 Exam Cram 2 from bn.com. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.

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Hmmmm (question and thought) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570003)

Is this associated with Phoenix University (the online university) that offers worthless degrees (not worth the paper they are printed on)? Is linux certification even worth it (think MCSE)? Thanks (in advanced)

AC (anonymous coward)

Re:Hmmmm (question and thought) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570026)

For someone who can't even say "thanks in advance" without making a mistake, I'd say you're pretty cocky with regards to other people's education... (you're stupid)

Re:Hmmmm (question and thought) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570097)

you are (obviously) the submiter of this (shitty) review. You got all pissy with the the next post [slashdot.org] (that made fun of your use of ()). So fuck off (and die) (thx).

ps How does it feel to have your review crap flooded (with Nazi symbols no less), dick?

Re:Hmmmm (question and thought) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570157)

You got pissy (again) here [slashdot.org] (asswipe)

(parens) (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570017)

Someone needs (their) parentheses taken (away) from them.

Re:(parens) (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570031)

fuck off asswipe

Re:(parens) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570523)

Someone needs (their) parentheses taken (away) from them.

No, somebody needs to read articles for their content instead of looking only at their form.

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Wed May 18 21:39:30 CEST 2005 [4294]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570020)

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Wed May 18 21:39:31 CEST 2005 [202]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570023)

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Wed May 18 21:39:37 CEST 2005 [9106]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570024)

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Wed May 18 21:39:37 CEST 2005 [7721]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570035)

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Wed May 18 21:39:41 CEST 2005 [820]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570054)

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Wed May 18 21:42:04 CEST 2005 [8002]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570057)

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Wed May 18 21:42:12 CEST 2005 [6562]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570058)

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Wed May 18 21:42:11 CEST 2005 [3195]

argh (0, Offtopic)

BenByer (59573) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570061)

What (the fuck) is with this (horrible) writing?

Re:argh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570114)

shut up

Re:argh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570170)

Right back at ya, faggot.

-Ben Bryer (posting anonymously so my karma isn't affected)

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570063)

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Wed May 18 21:42:35 CEST 2005 [2192]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570066)

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Wed May 18 21:43:01 CEST 2005 [2701]

(Parentheses) (3, Funny)

kevin_conaway (585204) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570075)

Is it (really) necessary to (nearly) parenthesize the (almost) entire summary? It (really) reads like that (ta ta today Junior!) kid from (the movie) Billy Madison.

Re:(Parentheses) (1)

m50d (797211) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570192)

I take it submitter is a lisp fanatic?

Re:(Parentheses) (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570207)

I figured the review was written in Lisp...

Re:(Parentheses) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570800)

No! Lisp makes sense :)

So what? Parentheses made it well structured. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570484)

English is a damn crappy language for subphrase grouping, unlike languages with latin roots for example.

A lot of technical people use what might be considered "excessive" parenthesizing in English, purely to make the logical structure of sentences stand out more.

If you can't handle it, tough. And don't bother attempting LISP then or your little brain will explode.

(lisp) (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570078)

(It looks like (the review) was written (in lisp)).

Brain Dump? (1)

BrainSurgeon (875819) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570083)

Just curious...How does this differ?

FYI (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570085)

The Gay Nigger Association of America, also known as the GNAA, is a self-aggrandizing Internet troll organization that primarily targets Internet communities in an effort to disrupt their normal activities and annoy their users. Members have flooded weblogs, produced shock sites, prank-called technical support telephone lines, and flooded, mass-invited, and trolled IRC chat rooms. As a consequence, the communities that are attacked treat GNAA members as nuisances and frequently respond with technological and social anti-trolling measures (such as comment moderation) to limit future disruption caused by trolling.
Contents [showhide]
1 Background information
2 Membership
3 Activities
4 Trivia
5 See also
6 References
7 External links
[edit]

Background information

The group originated on the Slashdot website. It claims to consist of six leaders and approximately 30 to 40 other members. GNAA first appeared in January 2003, trolling Slashdot using ASCII art logos representing the organization and satirical news releases pertaining to the contents of Slashdot articles. They also have their own IRC server, which is connected to "NiggerNET" reachable by irc.gnaa.us. The main GNAA channel is #gnaa.

The GNAA website states: "We do not support and do not promote racism, homophobia, etc." [1] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )
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Membership

GNAA encourages people to join by watching the 1992 Danish low-budget movie Gayniggers From Outer Space, from which their name derives. The GNAA's entry requirements also include successfully achieving a "first post" on Slashdot consisting of GNAA Internet troll text, or registering support by upwardly moderating GNAA comments. A test on the subject matter in Gayniggers From Outer Space is then administered by an IRC bot.

The GNAA has a signature which their members use whenever they perform a crapflood or post a news release. The full "sig", which includes an embedded ASCII art picture of the letters "GNAA" on a wall, can be found on their website. It begins:

GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS
from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF
AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! [2] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )

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Activities

GNAA gained notoriety in the Slashdot community when they launched several flood attacks against the site. [3] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100374&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) [4] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100381&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) Slashdot subsequently implemented open proxy-banning measures in its posting system; GNAA members claim that their crapflooding campaign spurred this change. They registered thousands of usernames en masse to mark Slashdot editor "michael" as their foe. [5] (http://slashdot.org/~michael/freaks [slashdot.org] )

During May 2004, GNAA members flooded the popular image board 4chan, contributing to the fourth non-permanent shutdown of the site shortly thereafter. In the list of reasons why it closed down, the administrator wrote: "Flooding. GNAA put the final nail in the coffin, however I am thankful that they willingly ceased the flood after finding out it was costing me money." [6] (http://www.4chan.org/index3.php [4chan.org] ) However, a poster on the Something Awful Forums later stated that this was only one of several factors that caused them to be shut down: "It was not the GNAA who killed 4chan (I quite like them actually), or really the moronic users, it was a man named Chris, who goes by the name TheRowan and runs a business that shuts you down if you fail to play along." [7] (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s =&threadid=724028 [somethingawful.com] )

In July 2004, GNAA member JesuitX submitted leaked screenshots of the then-forthcoming operating system Mac OS X v10.4 to popular Apple Macintosh news website MacRumors (http://www.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com] ). [8] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062604 1303.shtml [macrumors.com] ) [9] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062720 2026.shtml [macrumors.com] ) A report on the site reads "With WWDC just days away, the first Tiger information and screenshots appears to have been leaked. According to sources, Apple will reportedly provide developers with a Mac OS X 10.4 Preview copy at WWDC on Monday. The screenshots provided reportedly come from this upcoming developer preview." [10] (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-7 7079 [macrumors.com] ) When the source was found to be from the GNAA, many declared the screenshots to be fake, based on the organization's apparent disreputability. The GNAA released a press release which claimed that the screenshots [11] (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=520 [appleinsider.com] ) were genuine (cf. official Apple screenshots (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html) [apple.com] ), and that the Apple community had been trolled. [12] (http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-apple [www.gnaa.us] )

GNAA members have created the shock site Last Measure, which often factors into their crapfloods as the destination of links or redirects, and made its source code available under the revised BSD license. [13] (http://lastmeasure.com/ [lastmeasure.com]

GNAA also runs a conference call system, which they use to troll various companies and people, including AOL. They have produced an MP3 which combines samples from their prank AOL calls with the "Hey, everybody! I'm looking at gay porno!" voice from Last Measure.

In late 2004, the GNAA discovered vulnerabilities in weblogging service Xanga. [14] (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure /2005-January/030506.html [netsys.com] )
[edit]

Trivia

* GNAA member rolloffle (also known as James A. C. Joyce) wrote the article "Why your Movable Type blog must die (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/2/171117/882 3 [kuro5hin.org] )", which then made it to the front page of the community-moderated site kuro5hin, despite the fact that its author was a notorious troll.
* The GNAA has created many scripts to carry out its activities, including specialized scripts for crapflooding sites.
* On Freenode's IRC server, the #GNAA channel redirects to #you_have_got_to_be_kidding with a warning message indicating that the network might be inappropriate. This is standard Freenode behavior for juped channels. Other IRC networks similarly jupe #GNAA.
* In contrast to their lo-fi ASCII text sigs, the GNAA website appears to parody the slick design of many corporate websites. It features pictures of African American athletes and professionals, apparently taken from stock image archives.

[edit]

See also

* Slashdot trolling phenomena
* Internet troll
* Trolltalk

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1)

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Wed May 18 21:44:46 CEST 2005 [4477]

Definition of LPIC (4, Funny)

Mindwarp (15738) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570095)

Lots of Parentheses In Commentary

Re:Definition of LPIC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570363)

Caveats, anyone?

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Wed May 18 21:45:29 CEST 2005 [6495]

Did you pass the test? Did you make more money? (2, Interesting)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570102)

Let's cut to the chase.

(run that by me again...) (0, Redundant)

It doesn't come easy (695416) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570118)

You have to (seriously) wonder if this (admittedly eccentric) typing style has (even) a (remote) chance of (universal) acceptance in (virtual or otherwise) literary circles...

HA HA Slashdot is getting OWNED!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570403)

HA HA Slashdot is getting OWNED!!!
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REPENT! The END of /. is Nigh! (1)

Asshat Canada (804093) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570125)

The Proof IS HERE! [slashdot.org]

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Wed May 18 21:48:01 CEST 2005 [8965]

FYI 2 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570150)

The Gay Nigger Association of America, also known as the GNAA, is a self-aggrandizing Internet troll organization that primarily targets Internet communities in an effort to disrupt their normal activities and annoy their users. Members have flooded weblogs, produced shock sites, prank-called technical support telephone lines, and flooded, mass-invited, and trolled IRC chat rooms. As a consequence, the communities that are attacked treat GNAA members as nuisances and frequently respond with technological and social anti-trolling measures (such as comment moderation) to limit future disruption caused by trolling.
Contents [showhide]
1 Background information
2 Membership
3 Activities
4 Trivia
5 See also
6 References
7 External links
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Background information

The group originated on the Slashdot website. It claims to consist of six leaders and approximately 30 to 40 other members. GNAA first appeared in January 2003, trolling Slashdot using ASCII art logos representing the organization and satirical news releases pertaining to the contents of Slashdot articles. They also have their own IRC server, which is connected to "NiggerNET" reachable by irc.gnaa.us. The main GNAA channel is #gnaa.

The GNAA website states: "We do not support and do not promote racism, homophobia, etc." [1] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )
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Membership

GNAA encourages people to join by watching the 1992 Danish low-budget movie Gayniggers From Outer Space, from which their name derives. The GNAA's entry requirements also include successfully achieving a "first post" on Slashdot consisting of GNAA Internet troll text, or registering support by upwardly moderating GNAA comments. A test on the subject matter in Gayniggers From Outer Space is then administered by an IRC bot.

The GNAA has a signature which their members use whenever they perform a crapflood or post a news release. The full "sig", which includes an embedded ASCII art picture of the letters "GNAA" on a wall, can be found on their website. It begins:

GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS
from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF
AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! [2] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )

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Activities

GNAA gained notoriety in the Slashdot community when they launched several flood attacks against the site. [3] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100374&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) [4] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100381&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) Slashdot subsequently implemented open proxy-banning measures in its posting system; GNAA members claim that their crapflooding campaign spurred this change. They registered thousands of usernames en masse to mark Slashdot editor "michael" as their foe. [5] (http://slashdot.org/~michael/freaks [slashdot.org] )

During May 2004, GNAA members flooded the popular image board 4chan, contributing to the fourth non-permanent shutdown of the site shortly thereafter. In the list of reasons why it closed down, the administrator wrote: "Flooding. GNAA put the final nail in the coffin, however I am thankful that they willingly ceased the flood after finding out it was costing me money." [6] (http://www.4chan.org/index3.php [4chan.org] ) However, a poster on the Something Awful Forums later stated that this was only one of several factors that caused them to be shut down: "It was not the GNAA who killed 4chan (I quite like them actually), or really the moronic users, it was a man named Chris, who goes by the name TheRowan and runs a business that shuts you down if you fail to play along." [7] (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s =&threadid=724028 [somethingawful.com] )

In July 2004, GNAA member JesuitX submitted leaked screenshots of the then-forthcoming operating system Mac OS X v10.4 to popular Apple Macintosh news website MacRumors (http://www.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com] ). [8] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062604 1303.shtml [macrumors.com] ) [9] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062720 2026.shtml [macrumors.com] ) A report on the site reads "With WWDC just days away, the first Tiger information and screenshots appears to have been leaked. According to sources, Apple will reportedly provide developers with a Mac OS X 10.4 Preview copy at WWDC on Monday. The screenshots provided reportedly come from this upcoming developer preview." [10] (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-7 7079 [macrumors.com] ) When the source was found to be from the GNAA, many declared the screenshots to be fake, based on the organization's apparent disreputability. The GNAA released a press release which claimed that the screenshots [11] (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=520 [appleinsider.com] ) were genuine (cf. official Apple screenshots (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html) [apple.com] ), and that the Apple community had been trolled. [12] (http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-apple [www.gnaa.us] )

GNAA members have created the shock site Last Measure, which often factors into their crapfloods as the destination of links or redirects, and made its source code available under the revised BSD license. [13] (http://lastmeasure.com/ [lastmeasure.com]

GNAA also runs a conference call system, which they use to troll various companies and people, including AOL. They have produced an MP3 which combines samples from their prank AOL calls with the "Hey, everybody! I'm looking at gay porno!" voice from Last Measure.

In late 2004, the GNAA discovered vulnerabilities in weblogging service Xanga. [14] (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure /2005-January/030506.html [netsys.com] )
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Trivia

* GNAA member rolloffle (also known as James A. C. Joyce) wrote the article "Why your Movable Type blog must die (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/2/171117/882 3 [kuro5hin.org] )", which then made it to the front page of the community-moderated site kuro5hin, despite the fact that its author was a notorious troll.
* The GNAA has created many scripts to carry out its activities, including specialized scripts for crapflooding sites.
* On Freenode's IRC server, the #GNAA channel redirects to #you_have_got_to_be_kidding with a warning message indicating that the network might be inappropriate. This is standard Freenode behavior for juped channels. Other IRC networks similarly jupe #GNAA.
* In contrast to their lo-fi ASCII text sigs, the GNAA website appears to parody the slick design of many corporate websites. It features pictures of African American athletes and professionals, apparently taken from stock image archives.

[edit]

See also

* Slashdot trolling phenomena
* Internet troll
* Trolltalk

"The Trick" (4, Insightful)

duffbeer703 (177751) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570153)

The key 'trick' to passing the exams is to have tried the commands yourself and seen the results

The real trick is actually knowing wtf you are doing, instead of flailing around like a tipped turtle.

Re:"The Trick" (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570850)

The real trick is actually knowing wtf you are doing

Ya think? Out of the whole review this is the one sentence that jumped out of the parenthesis at me.

It does not merely concern me, it scares the bejeezus out of me.

And just what is a guy like this going to do when he brings his newly minted certification to me, looking for a job, with no relevant work experience, and my first response is. . .

"Well, that's ok, it doesn't necessarily shut you out, just describe to me, in detail, how you set up and administer your home network." ?

I know, I know, in today's world I'm a "weirdo," but I don't want to see your cert, I want to see what you can do before I hire you, so yes, you might want to have "tried the commands yourself" before you actually come to me for a job based on skill with those commands.

Now if you lack those skills that doesn't even mean I won't hire you, but you might have to be willing to spend some time mopping floors before I let you near a live terminal, and I assume I'm even going to have to teach you how to do that properly, which costs me time and money that comes out of what I can afford to pay you.

So why don't you just learn your shit before you show up at my door, k?

I've posted "read a book" any number of times in this very forum. I guess I'll have to start appending what I thought was the obvious corollary: Now do something.

KFG

The proof reader of the above. . . (2, Funny)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570879)

. . .has been sacked. Suggestive poses for the moose suggested by. . .

Need more coffee. A brain wouldn't hurt either.

KFG

Re:"The Trick" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570878)

Tipped turtles somehow manage to get back on their feet and outlive us.

Any point other than passing an exam? (4, Interesting)

moz25 (262020) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570158)

What I'm not getting exactly is: is this book useful mainly to people trying to pass a particular exam or is it useful to those interested in actually learning something and getting knowledge? This is a sort of common problem in academics where students study for the exam, rather than for the actual knowledge. I'm not sure I like a book promoting that (if it does).

Re:Any point other than passing an exam? (1)

budword (680846) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570326)

Most of the exam cram books are geared towards passing the test. Not that they can't be decent reference material, but I'd look elsewhere for an introduction to linux.

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Wed May 18 21:50:29 CEST 2005 [8997]

Review of the review (1)

RealProgrammer (723725) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570189)

  • Way too verbose
  • Where were the bullet points?
  • Now I have to read the book, instead of the review teaching me everything I needed

Just kidding. I'm a fan of the "Exam Cram" series, since I think that if the industry is going to judge me on my credentials, instead of my ability, then I should be allowed to get my credentials based on my test-taking savvy instead of relying on my actual (awesome) skill.

But the real benefit of the Exam Cram format is that by asking me questions, they show me the areas in which I'm less versed. Hitting those areas leads to others and by the time I get back to the questions they're easily answered.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570195)

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Wed May 18 21:52:14 CEST 2005 [2644]

GNAA PWNS (-1, Troll)

GNAAWARRIOR (885050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570196)

The Gay Nigger Association of America, also known as the GNAA, is a self-aggrandizing Internet troll organization that primarily targets Internet communities in an effort to disrupt their normal activities and annoy their users. Members have flooded weblogs, produced shock sites, prank-called technical support telephone lines, and flooded, mass-invited, and trolled IRC chat rooms. As a consequence, the communities that are attacked treat GNAA members as nuisances and frequently respond with technological and social anti-trolling measures (such as comment moderation) to limit future disruption caused by trolling. Contents [showhide] 1 Background information 2 Membership 3 Activities 4 Trivia 5 See also 6 References 7 External links [edit] Background information The group originated on the Slashdot website. It claims to consist of six leaders and approximately 30 to 40 other members. GNAA first appeared in January 2003, trolling Slashdot using ASCII art logos representing the organization and satirical news releases pertaining to the contents of Slashdot articles. They also have their own IRC server, which is connected to "NiggerNET" reachable by irc.gnaa.us. The main GNAA channel is #gnaa. The GNAA website states: "We do not support and do not promote racism, homophobia, etc." [1] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] ) [edit] Membership GNAA encourages people to join by watching the 1992 Danish low-budget movie Gayniggers From Outer Space, from which their name derives. The GNAA's entry requirements also include successfully achieving a "first post" on Slashdot consisting of GNAA Internet troll text, or registering support by upwardly moderating GNAA comments. A test on the subject matter in Gayniggers From Outer Space is then administered by an IRC bot. The GNAA has a signature which their members use whenever they perform a crapflood or post a news release. The full "sig", which includes an embedded ASCII art picture of the letters "GNAA" on a wall, can be found on their website. It begins: GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! [2] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] ) [edit] Activities GNAA gained notoriety in the Slashdot community when they launched several flood attacks against the site. [3] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100374&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) [4] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100381&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) Slashdot subsequently implemented open proxy-banning measures in its posting system; GNAA members claim that their crapflooding campaign spurred this change. They registered thousands of usernames en masse to mark Slashdot editor "michael" as their foe. [5] (http://slashdot.org/~michael/freaks [slashdot.org] ) During May 2004, GNAA members flooded the popular image board 4chan, contributing to the fourth non-permanent shutdown of the site shortly thereafter. In the list of reasons why it closed down, the administrator wrote: "Flooding. GNAA put the final nail in the coffin, however I am thankful that they willingly ceased the flood after finding out it was costing me money." [6] (http://www.4chan.org/index3.php [4chan.org] ) However, a poster on the Something Awful Forums later stated that this was only one of several factors that caused them to be shut down: "It was not the GNAA who killed 4chan (I quite like them actually), or really the moronic users, it was a man named Chris, who goes by the name TheRowan and runs a business that shuts you down if you fail to play along." [7] (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s =&threadid=724028 [somethingawful.com] ) In July 2004, GNAA member JesuitX submitted leaked screenshots of the then-forthcoming operating system Mac OS X v10.4 to popular Apple Macintosh news website MacRumors (http://www.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com] ). [8] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062604 1303.shtml [macrumors.com] ) [9] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062720 2026.shtml [macrumors.com] ) A report on the site reads "With WWDC just days away, the first Tiger information and screenshots appears to have been leaked. According to sources, Apple will reportedly provide developers with a Mac OS X 10.4 Preview copy at WWDC on Monday. The screenshots provided reportedly come from this upcoming developer preview." [10] (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-7 7079 [macrumors.com] ) When the source was found to be from the GNAA, many declared the screenshots to be fake, based on the organization's apparent disreputability. The GNAA released a press release which claimed that the screenshots [11] (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=520 [appleinsider.com] ) were genuine (cf. official Apple screenshots (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html) [apple.com] ), and that the Apple community had been trolled. [12] (http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-apple [www.gnaa.us] ) GNAA members have created the shock site Last Measure, which often factors into their crapfloods as the destination of links or redirects, and made its source code available under the revised BSD license. [13] (http://lastmeasure.com/ [lastmeasure.com] GNAA also runs a conference call system, which they use to troll various companies and people, including AOL. They have produced an MP3 which combines samples from their prank AOL calls with the "Hey, everybody! I'm looking at gay porno!" voice from Last Measure. In late 2004, the GNAA discovered vulnerabilities in weblogging service Xanga. [14] (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure /2005-January/030506.html [netsys.com] ) [edit] Trivia * GNAA member rolloffle (also known as James A. C. Joyce) wrote the article "Why your Movable Type blog must die (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/2/171117/882 3 [kuro5hin.org] )", which then made it to the front page of the community-moderated site kuro5hin, despite the fact that its author was a notorious troll. * The GNAA has created many scripts to carry out its activities, including specialized scripts for crapflooding sites. * On Freenode's IRC server, the #GNAA channel redirects to #you_have_got_to_be_kidding with a warning message indicating that the network might be inappropriate. This is standard Freenode behavior for juped channels. Other IRC networks similarly jupe #GNAA. * In contrast to their lo-fi ASCII text sigs, the GNAA website appears to parody the slick design of many corporate websites. It features pictures of African American athletes and professionals, apparently taken from stock image archives. [edit] See also * Slashdot trolling phenomena * Internet troll * Trolltalk

but seriously, who cares (3, Insightful)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570198)

Everyone knows that Linux certs (or almost all certs for that matter) are useless, so how is this News? My last job interview:

Interviewer: tell me about your Unix experience
Me: well, I've adminned about 50 Solaris boxes all over the country, and I've been running my own domain on 2 Linux machines since 1997, and never been hacked. [insert lengthy discussion of the coolness of nscd here]
Interviewer: You're hired.

Certs are an extension of the Microsoft mentality - if you keep repeating something, eventually people believe it (Developers! Developers! Developers!). The more people who buy into the cert racket, the more PHBs are going to (mistakenly) base critical decisions on what certified people say, often to their detriment.

Re:but seriously, who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570260)

It all depends on who is doing the decision making in the hiring process. I don't think you can make a blanket statement like that with all of the job ads out there asking for certs as a requirement.

Re:but seriously, who cares (1)

VAXcat (674775) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570809)

I agree. At one time, at a large company I was working at, when we went looking for admins, if an applicant had an MCSE, well, that was weighted very heavily against them (none of the existing admins had one, and we were very skeptical of anyone who thought it was a good idea to get one).

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570203)

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Wed May 18 21:52:57 CEST 2005 [9355]

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570205)

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Wed May 18 21:52:56 CEST 2005 [6462]

LPI's policy page (as referenced in the review) (1)

farker haiku (883529) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570217)

Since it was already (very) slow... 1: PC Architecture (8-Feb-1999) The LPI program will attempt to be architecture-neutral when possible. When architecture-specific knowledge is deemed important for the purposes of the program, Intel "PC" architectures will be used for reference. Other architectures may be optionally included for testing as demand warrants. 2: Start with exam 1 (8-Feb-1999) We require the candidates to pass all exams from #1 up to the required level. Motivation: At the higher levels, we can only guarantee the necessary background and a complete and consistent program if the candidates actually pass the initial exams. 3: Bounding the Certification Program (8-Feb-1999) The Linux Certification Program will test technical skills and knowledge of Linux system administration. The emphasis will be on understanding rather than memorization. We will not test other requisites for successful system administration like general intelligence, social and managerial skills, knowledge of legislation, financial awareness etc. 4: Jargon (7-Jul-1999) The Linux Professional Institute will not explicitly test on knowledge of jargon or acronyms. The examinees are expected to be familiar with concepts that have a commonly used acronym for a name (e.g. TCP/IP). However, we will not require knowledge of the actual meaning of the letters. There will be a list of preferred terms and deprecated synonyms. Acronyms which are not explicitly listed as "preferred", should not be used. This list will also contain definitions of the terms within a certain context where this appears necessary. The list will be updated while successive tests are being developed by LPI, and the tests will be made consistent with this list. Note: The list is currently available on LPI's Glossary Page. 5: Exam Renewal (4-Oct-1999) LPI will review the contents of its test objectives and exams and revise them as deemed necessary in order to provide for new material, test validity, security, and to incorporate feedback. Test objectives and exams will be reviewed at least once in two years. 6: Recertification (Revised 19-Apr-2004) LPI strongly encourages certificate holders to recertify minimally within a ten-year period from the date the first exam of the level was passed. Ten years from the date the first exam of the level was passed, a designation's status will change from "ACTIVE" to "INACTIVE" in the LPI database, unless the certificate holder recertifies. LPI will provide to third parties, at the certificate holder's request, information pertaining to the history of certifications(s) passed, the date the certification(s) were passed, the revision date/level(s) of the completed certification(s), as well as the designation status (ACTIVE or INACTIVE). In providing this information, LPI reserves the right to indicate the current revision level of any or all of the certification(s) passed by the certificate holder and to issue public advisories concerning changes in the content or objectives of the certification(s). It is LPI's position that the purpose of recertification is to measure continued competence. Currently, the methods of recertification include: Retaking and passing all current form examinations required for initial certification. After successfully passing all the required up-to-date examinations, the designation status will be updated to ACTIVE for a period of ten years from the date the first exam of the level was passed. Earning a higher-level LPI certification designation. When a higher level certification designation is earned, the status of all lower level designations are considered ACTIVE for ten years from the date the first exam of the higher level was passed. LPI is currently considering the development of a single "refresher" recertification exam that encompasses the content of all examinations for a particular designation, with a focus on newer developments in the field. Although LPI strongly encourages certificate holders to recertify minimally within a ten-year period, possible major revisions of Linux or recommendations driven by the Linux community may lead LPI to consider shortening the recertification period. The addition of the designation status of ACTIVE or INACTIVE into the LPI database will begin on September 1, 2004. Certification designations (LPIC-1, LPIC-2, etc.) earned before that date will NOT be subject to these recertification stipulations. All certification designations earned before September 1, 2004 will be considered ifetimedesignations and will be maintained as having an ACTIVE status in the database, regardless of recertification activities. 7: Re-taking exams (Revised 19-Apr-2004) The LPI Board voted on a policy regarding the delay required between re-taking exams: Anyone who takes an LPI exam once must wait one week before re-taking. Anyone who takes an LPI exam a second (and subsequent) time must wait 90 days before re-taking. Anyone who passes an LPI exam may not retake that exam for at least two years. 8: Disciplinary Procedure The disciplinary procedures of LPI are intended to assist and inform certificants and candidates for certification of LPI standards relative to professional conduct and discipline. A certificant or candidate for certification agrees to comply at all times to the standards found here. 9: Candidate Grievances, Complaints and Appeals (19-Apr-2004) Grievances that question the examination content, passing standard or specific items will be accepted by LPI and reviewed as part of its quality control processes, but no further action will be taken on the grievance. Complaints concerning application, testing procedures or retesting procedures must be made in writing to LPI. Grievances concerning a specific exam administration must be submitted in writing with a signature to LPI within 30 days of the exam administration. LPI staff will contact the candidate with its decision within 60 days of receipt of the grievance. Should the candidate desire to appeal the decision, the candidate must submit a written appeal request within 15 days of receipt of LPI's decision. Within 60 days, LPI shall schedule a hearing (likely by conference call). During the appeal, the Board will only review whether a decision made by LPI was inappropriate if: (1) the decision was based on material errors of fact, or (2) LPI failed to follow published criteria, policies, and procedures. Only facts and conditions up to and including the time of LPI decision will be considered during the appeal. LPI and the applicant or certificant may make opening statements, present documents and testimony, examine and cross-examine witnesses under oath, make closing statements, and present briefs as scheduled by the Board. Formal rules of evidence shall apply. Relevant evidence may be submitted electronically. Disputed questions shall be determined by majority vote of the Board and shall be final and binding. The decision of the LPI Board shall be rendered in writing and transmitted to the applicant or certificant by certified mail whenever possible, within 30 days of the appeal. Requests for Manual Re-Scoring of Exams: Although it is extremely unlikely that manual re-scoring will result in a change in examination results, candidates who receive a failing score may request a manual re-scoring of paper-and-pencil administered exams or computer administered exams. Requests should be submitted in writing and mailed to LPI with a US$50.00 fee (money order or certified check) made payable to LPI. Upon receipt of a written request and appropriate fee, the candidate exam will be manually re-scored. Requests for manual scoring must be received in the LPI central office no later than 30 days following receipt of the pass/fail decision. Requests received later than that will not be honored. Request for manual scoring will be processed within 30 days after receipt of request and submission of the appropriate fee. 10: Nondiscrimination Policy (19-Apr-2004) LPI does not discriminate for the purposes of Board membership or office, application, examination, recertification or any other activity of the Board on the basis of age, gender, race, sexual preference, color, religion, marital status, national origin or disability. Furthermore, LPI is committed to ensuring that no individual is deprived of the opportunity to take an examination solely by reason of a disability. In the United States, our testing vendor examination facilities meet ADA standards and are accessible by those in wheelchairs or with other mobility impairments. In other countries around the world, facilities are dependent on local norms and efforts will be extended to provide accommodations whenever possible. Special accommodations also may be provided for individuals with documented disabilities. For individuals requesting special provisions for computer administered exams, the individual must state their needs to the particular testing vendor before scheduling an exam and the testing vendor will consult with LPI regarding the provision of an accommodation. For paper-and-pencil testing, the individual should apply directly to the LPI central office at least 14 days before the testing date. LPI will determine applicant eligibility for special accommodations and applicants should provide LPI at least 14 days to review the request, and if warranted, make provisions to provide an accommodation for a specific date at a testing site. Requests for accommodations for either a computer administered or paper-and-pencil examination should include: documentation of the disability accommodations requested for the examination descriptions of past accommodations provided for in other educational or testing situations a current letter from a physician or other appropriate diagnostic authority confirming the diagnosis of the disability and a prescription for specific accommodations. 11: Record Retention Policy (19-Apr-2004) Record Retention Policy This policy covers all records and documents, regardless of physical form or characteristics, both paper and electronic, which have been made or received by LPI in connection with the transaction of public business. A. RETENTION POLICY LPI shall retain records for the period of their immediate or current use, unless longer retention is necessary for historical reference, research, or to comply with contractual or legal requirements. The records of the LPI shall be classified for purposes of retention as follows: Class 1: Permanent Retention. Records that are permanent or essential shall be retained and preserved indefinitely. Examples of permanent records include official minutes of LPI board actions, LPI policies, annual reports, as well as records of candidate identification information with their certification status and date of examination. Class 2: Current Records. Current records are records that for convenience, ready reference or other reasons are retained by LPI. Current records will be retained for three years. Examples of current records include general correspondence, financial records and records and payment regarding employee or consultant agreements. Research reports (including general statistical reports, item analysis, equating, job analysis and standard setting reports), forms of the exams, candidate application information and the full record of candidate exam responses also are classified as current records. Class 3: No Retention Required. Documents and other materials that are not "records" need not be retained. Documents and other materials (including originals and duplicates) that are not otherwise required to be retained, are not necessary to the functioning or continuity of LPI and which have no legal significance may be destroyed when no longer needed. Examples include materials and documents generated for the convenience of the person generating them, draft documents (other than some contracts) and duplicate copies of records that are no longer needed. Specific examples include reminder messages, miscellaneous correspondence not requiring follow-up or action, e-mails that do not need to be retained under this policy as well as chronological files. With limited exceptions, no specific retention requirements are assigned to documents in this category. Instead, it is up to the originator or recipient to determine when the document's business utility has ended. B. RECORDS NOT ADDRESSED IN THE RECORD RETENTION SCHEDULE Records and other documents or materials that are not expressly addressed may be destroyed at any time provided that they have been retained for the periods prescribed for substantially similar records. C. STORAGE AND SECURITY OF RECORDS Records may be stored in the LPI central office space or externally in LPI maintained servers if the records are in active use or are maintained in the office for convenience or ready reference. Examples of active files appropriately maintained in the LPI central office include active chronological files, research and reference files, pending files, administrative files or personnel files. Inactive records, for which use or reference has diminished sufficiently to permit removal from LPI office space or equipment, may be sent to an off-site storage facility. Certain records require additional security measures to maintain the integrity of the examination process. These records include: Candidate information (certification status, exam date, identifying and application data, full record of candidate exam responses) Item analysis with answer key Forms of the exams Records related to the content of specific items (item bank) For selected candidate information, an individual candidate can make his/her certification status and exam date available to employers (or others) by providing to that person a username and password using secure http processes. No other candidate information is accessible through this process. For the remaining more detailed candidate information, as well as the above items two through four, security must be maintained at the highest level. In electronic formats, access to individual candidate information records are encrypted and/or password protected on the server and is accessible by the server administrator, the database administrator and the Vice President of Operations. Additionally, records pertaining to item analyses, exam forms and the content of the specific items and the item bank are on the LPI server and accessible by the Director of Exam Development, the Director of Certification and other LPI staff specifically designated by them. In a physical format, these records are maintained onsite in locked cabinets in a secure office. When transported to exam sites, paper exam booklets are maintained in the possession of LPI staff or the approved, designated proctor or may be mailed to the proctor using a delivery service requiring signature. After the paper exams are administered, the used exam booklets are destroyed. Should a breach of security be discovered, it is incumbent upon staff to act to minimize the effects of the breach. The course of action for the server and database administrators would be to change all passwords, make sure all software is current, identify how the exploit occurred and make the necessary changes to prevent it from happening again. Data would be compared to known secure backups and with the vendor data to verify any tampering and fix any inconsistencies found.

Re:LPI's policy page (as referenced in the review) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570236)

Mod -20 !!!

Re:LPI's policy page (as referenced in the review) (1)

farker haiku (883529) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570247)

Oh dear god, I did it again. Why does slashdot require breaks in order to insert a carriage return?

And, uh, I'll try and start using the preview button :)

Re:LPI's policy page (as referenced in the review) (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570417)

Try posting as plain old text next time. Despite the name, plain old text actually accepts HTML formatting - in fact I guess the only difference between plain old text and HTML is that the former converts your regular line breaks into HTML br-tags.

Re:LPI's policy page (as referenced in the review) (1)

farker haiku (883529) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570518)

Thanks :)
I'm a little too used to fark.

People who pass LPIC like parenthesis? (1, Interesting)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570817)

Bad formatting aside, it's interesting that this company policy page has almost as many nonsensical parenthesis in it as the original review. How coincidental that two entirely different writers would have the same style. Isn't it?

I recommend "Parenthisizers Anonymous" (1, Funny)

Samrobb (12731) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570218)

Yes, you can get help (from others). You don't have to face this by yourself (alone). You can learn to use your favorite language (lisp) without feeling the desire (that burning need) to litter your entire conversation (or posts) with an amazing (literally amazing) amount of parenthetical notes (or notations, if you prefer).

You may want to start with using footnotes instead of parenthetical asides. This will allow you to gradually wean yourself off of your dependence on parenthesis. Note that some experts recoomend using braces instead of parenthesis. This won't do at all! You will still be dealing with your, ahem, addiction. Your readers will just think that you have gone completely nutso-wheelies and are trying to communicate in bash shell script.

Once you have managed to replace your use of parenthesis with footnotes, you can gradually and carefully eliminate the use of footnotes. In no time at all you will be writing clear, easily understood sentences. You readers will love you. Your parents, spouse, or SO will be proud of you. Your descendents will no longer have to avoid embarassing questions about your parenthetical love affair by telling stangers that they are RMS' illegitimate love children. World peace will become a reality.

The fate of future generations rests in your capable hands. Think of the children, man!

MOD PARENT (UP), MOD REVIEW (DOWN) (1)

SirJaxalot (715418) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570267)

MOD CRAPFLOOD (UP), MOD CRAPFLOOD CONTENT (DOWN)

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
abcdefghijklmnopqrst uvwxyz

And for you, Relevance for Newbies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570698)

Slashdot's really going down the pan, when even posters with low IDs don't have anything but crap to post.

Certification versus Actual Job Experience (4, Insightful)

prakslash (681585) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570223)

Before the inevitable torrent of posts on this subject, here is how it works:

Assume there are 2 people up for a job:

(1) If neither has the experience and one has the certification, the one with the certification wins.
(2) If one has the experience and no certification and other has no experience but a certification, the person with experience wins.
(3) If both have the same experience and only one has the extra certification, the one with the certification wins.
(4) If both have the same certifications and the same experience, the one who is cheaper wins.
(5) If both have certifications and neither has any experience, the one who talks better wins.
(5) If neither has any certifications or experience, the one who looks better wins.

Re:Certification versus Actual Job Experience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570376)

Considering you can't count, I'm pretty glad I don't have to work for someone like you!

Re:Certification versus Actual Job Experience (1)

republican gourd (879711) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570385)

Re: Your second (5). Better looks (with certain female exceptions) are not a guarantuer of succes (partially) because (it is human nature for) the boss to not want to feel ugly, bald (or stupid. This also largely rules out the hiring of people obviously smarter (than than the boss)). It is more use to work on your parenthetical references, as they will almost certainly be contacted.

Re:Certification versus Actual Job Experience (5, Funny)

The Bungi (221687) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570405)

What about the candidate that can count to six without repeating a number even once? Does he get the job?

Re:Certification versus Actual Job Experience (1)

limabone (174795) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570890)

I would say that the person who smells better wins since IT people are often quite stinky!

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570225)

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I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570241)

This message is posted from an open proxy. Open proxies are used to crapflood sites like Slashdot. Please mod this comment down so the proxy gets banned. If you don't care about open proxies, please mod this comment down because it's offensive to NIGGERS and KIKES. [img284.echo.cx]
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GNAA (-1, Troll)

GNAAWARRIOR (885050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570248)

The Gay Nigger Association of America, also known as the GNAA, is a self-aggrandizing Internet troll organization that primarily targets Internet communities in an effort to disrupt their normal activities and annoy their users. Members have flooded weblogs, produced shock sites, prank-called technical support telephone lines, and flooded, mass-invited, and trolled IRC chat rooms. As a consequence, the communities that are attacked treat GNAA members as nuisances and frequently respond with technological and social anti-trolling measures (such as comment moderation) to limit future disruption caused by trolling.
Contents [showhide]
1 Background information
2 Membership
3 Activities
4 Trivia
5 See also
6 References
7 External links
[edit]

Background information

The group originated on the Slashdot website. It claims to consist of six leaders and approximately 30 to 40 other members. GNAA first appeared in January 2003, trolling Slashdot using ASCII art logos representing the organization and satirical news releases pertaining to the contents of Slashdot articles. They also have their own IRC server, which is connected to "NiggerNET" reachable by irc.gnaa.us. The main GNAA channel is #gnaa.

The GNAA website states: "We do not support and do not promote racism, homophobia, etc." [1] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )
[edit]

Membership

GNAA encourages people to join by watching the 1992 Danish low-budget movie Gayniggers From Outer Space, from which their name derives. The GNAA's entry requirements also include successfully achieving a "first post" on Slashdot consisting of GNAA Internet troll text, or registering support by upwardly moderating GNAA comments. A test on the subject matter in Gayniggers From Outer Space is then administered by an IRC bot.

The GNAA has a signature which their members use whenever they perform a crapflood or post a news release. The full "sig", which includes an embedded ASCII art picture of the letters "GNAA" on a wall, can be found on their website. It begins:

GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS
from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF
AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! [2] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )

[edit]

Activities

GNAA gained notoriety in the Slashdot community when they launched several flood attacks against the site. [3] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100374&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) [4] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100381&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) Slashdot subsequently implemented open proxy-banning measures in its posting system; GNAA members claim that their crapflooding campaign spurred this change. They registered thousands of usernames en masse to mark Slashdot editor "michael" as their foe. [5] (http://slashdot.org/~michael/freaks [slashdot.org] )

During May 2004, GNAA members flooded the popular image board 4chan, contributing to the fourth non-permanent shutdown of the site shortly thereafter. In the list of reasons why it closed down, the administrator wrote: "Flooding. GNAA put the final nail in the coffin, however I am thankful that they willingly ceased the flood after finding out it was costing me money." [6] (http://www.4chan.org/index3.php [4chan.org] ) However, a poster on the Something Awful Forums later stated that this was only one of several factors that caused them to be shut down: "It was not the GNAA who killed 4chan (I quite like them actually), or really the moronic users, it was a man named Chris, who goes by the name TheRowan and runs a business that shuts you down if you fail to play along." [7] (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s =&threadid=724028 [somethingawful.com] )

In July 2004, GNAA member JesuitX submitted leaked screenshots of the then-forthcoming operating system Mac OS X v10.4 to popular Apple Macintosh news website MacRumors (http://www.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com] ). [8] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062604 1303.shtml [macrumors.com] ) [9] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062720 2026.shtml [macrumors.com] ) A report on the site reads "With WWDC just days away, the first Tiger information and screenshots appears to have been leaked. According to sources, Apple will reportedly provide developers with a Mac OS X 10.4 Preview copy at WWDC on Monday. The screenshots provided reportedly come from this upcoming developer preview." [10] (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-7 7079 [macrumors.com] ) When the source was found to be from the GNAA, many declared the screenshots to be fake, based on the organization's apparent disreputability. The GNAA released a press release which claimed that the screenshots [11] (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=520 [appleinsider.com] ) were genuine (cf. official Apple screenshots (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html) [apple.com] ), and that the Apple community had been trolled. [12] (http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-apple [www.gnaa.us] )

GNAA members have created the shock site Last Measure, which often factors into their crapfloods as the destination of links or redirects, and made its source code available under the revised BSD license. [13] (http://lastmeasure.com/ [lastmeasure.com]

GNAA also runs a conference call system, which they use to troll various companies and people, including AOL. They have produced an MP3 which combines samples from their prank AOL calls with the "Hey, everybody! I'm looking at gay porno!" voice from Last Measure.

In late 2004, the GNAA discovered vulnerabilities in weblogging service Xanga. [14] (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure /2005-January/030506.html [netsys.com] )
[edit]

Trivia

* GNAA member rolloffle (also known as James A. C. Joyce) wrote the article "Why your Movable Type blog must die (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/2/171117/882 3 [kuro5hin.org] )", which then made it to the front page of the community-moderated site kuro5hin, despite the fact that its author was a notorious troll.
* The GNAA has created many scripts to carry out its activities, including specialized scripts for crapflooding sites.
* On Freenode's IRC server, the #GNAA channel redirects to #you_have_got_to_be_kidding with a warning message indicating that the network might be inappropriate. This is standard Freenode behavior for juped channels. Other IRC networks similarly jupe #GNAA.
* In contrast to their lo-fi ASCII text sigs, the GNAA website appears to parody the slick design of many corporate websites. It features pictures of African American athletes and professionals, apparently taken from stock image archives.

[edit]

See also

* Slashdot trolling phenomena
* Internet troll
* Trolltalk

GNAA j00 (0, Troll)

GNAAWARRIOR (885050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570276)

The Gay Nigger Association of America, also known as the GNAA, is a self-aggrandizing Internet troll organization that primarily targets Internet communities in an effort to disrupt their normal activities and annoy their users. Members have flooded weblogs, produced shock sites, prank-called technical support telephone lines, and flooded, mass-invited, and trolled IRC chat rooms. As a consequence, the communities that are attacked treat GNAA members as nuisances and frequently respond with technological and social anti-trolling measures (such as comment moderation) to limit future disruption caused by trolling.
Contents [showhide]
1 Background information
2 Membership
3 Activities
4 Trivia
5 See also
6 References
7 External links
[edit]

Background information

The group originated on the Slashdot website. It claims to consist of six leaders and approximately 30 to 40 other members. GNAA first appeared in January 2003, trolling Slashdot using ASCII art logos representing the organization and satirical news releases pertaining to the contents of Slashdot articles. They also have their own IRC server, which is connected to "NiggerNET" reachable by irc.gnaa.us. The main GNAA channel is #gnaa.

The GNAA website states: "We do not support and do not promote racism, homophobia, etc." [1] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )
[edit]

Membership

GNAA encourages people to join by watching the 1992 Danish low-budget movie Gayniggers From Outer Space, from which their name derives. The GNAA's entry requirements also include successfully achieving a "first post" on Slashdot consisting of GNAA Internet troll text, or registering support by upwardly moderating GNAA comments. A test on the subject matter in Gayniggers From Outer Space is then administered by an IRC bot.

The GNAA has a signature which their members use whenever they perform a crapflood or post a news release. The full "sig", which includes an embedded ASCII art picture of the letters "GNAA" on a wall, can be found on their website. It begins:

GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS
from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF
AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! [2] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] )

[edit]

Activities

GNAA gained notoriety in the Slashdot community when they launched several flood attacks against the site. [3] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100374&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) [4] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100381&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) Slashdot subsequently implemented open proxy-banning measures in its posting system; GNAA members claim that their crapflooding campaign spurred this change. They registered thousands of usernames en masse to mark Slashdot editor "michael" as their foe. [5] (http://slashdot.org/~michael/freaks [slashdot.org] )

During May 2004, GNAA members flooded the popular image board 4chan, contributing to the fourth non-permanent shutdown of the site shortly thereafter. In the list of reasons why it closed down, the administrator wrote: "Flooding. GNAA put the final nail in the coffin, however I am thankful that they willingly ceased the flood after finding out it was costing me money." [6] (http://www.4chan.org/index3.php [4chan.org] ) However, a poster on the Something Awful Forums later stated that this was only one of several factors that caused them to be shut down: "It was not the GNAA who killed 4chan (I quite like them actually), or really the moronic users, it was a man named Chris, who goes by the name TheRowan and runs a business that shuts you down if you fail to play along." [7] (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s =&threadid=724028 [somethingawful.com] )

In July 2004, GNAA member JesuitX submitted leaked screenshots of the then-forthcoming operating system Mac OS X v10.4 to popular Apple Macintosh news website MacRumors (http://www.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com] ). [8] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062604 1303.shtml [macrumors.com] ) [9] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062720 2026.shtml [macrumors.com] ) A report on the site reads "With WWDC just days away, the first Tiger information and screenshots appears to have been leaked. According to sources, Apple will reportedly provide developers with a Mac OS X 10.4 Preview copy at WWDC on Monday. The screenshots provided reportedly come from this upcoming developer preview." [10] (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-7 7079 [macrumors.com] ) When the source was found to be from the GNAA, many declared the screenshots to be fake, based on the organization's apparent disreputability. The GNAA released a press release which claimed that the screenshots [11] (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=520 [appleinsider.com] ) were genuine (cf. official Apple screenshots (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html) [apple.com] ), and that the Apple community had been trolled. [12] (http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-apple [www.gnaa.us] )

GNAA members have created the shock site Last Measure, which often factors into their crapfloods as the destination of links or redirects, and made its source code available under the revised BSD license. [13] (http://lastmeasure.com/ [lastmeasure.com]

GNAA also runs a conference call system, which they use to troll various companies and people, including AOL. They have produced an MP3 which combines samples from their prank AOL calls with the "Hey, everybody! I'm looking at gay porno!" voice from Last Measure.

In late 2004, the GNAA discovered vulnerabilities in weblogging service Xanga. [14] (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure /2005-January/030506.html [netsys.com] )
[edit]

Trivia

* GNAA member rolloffle (also known as James A. C. Joyce) wrote the article "Why your Movable Type blog must die (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/2/171117/882 3 [kuro5hin.org] )", which then made it to the front page of the community-moderated site kuro5hin, despite the fact that its author was a notorious troll.
* The GNAA has created many scripts to carry out its activities, including specialized scripts for crapflooding sites.
* On Freenode's IRC server, the #GNAA channel redirects to #you_have_got_to_be_kidding with a warning message indicating that the network might be inappropriate. This is standard Freenode behavior for juped channels. Other IRC networks similarly jupe #GNAA.
* In contrast to their lo-fi ASCII text sigs, the GNAA website appears to parody the slick design of many corporate websites. It features pictures of African American athletes and professionals, apparently taken from stock image archives.

[edit]

See also

* Slashdot trolling phenomena
* Internet troll
* Trolltalk

I'M AN OPEN PROXY, BAN ME! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570285)

This message is posted from an open proxy. Open proxies are used to crapflood sites like Slashdot. Please mod this comment down so the proxy gets banned. If you don't care about open proxies, please mod this comment down because it's offensive to NIGGERS and KIKES. [img284.echo.cx]
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GNAA INFO (-1, Troll)

GNAAWARRIOR (885050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570302)

The Gay Nigger Association of America, also known as the GNAA, is a self-aggrandizing Internet troll organization that primarily targets Internet communities in an effort to disrupt their normal activities and annoy their users. Members have flooded weblogs, produced shock sites, prank-called technical support telephone lines, and flooded, mass-invited, and trolled IRC chat rooms. As a consequence, the communities that are attacked treat GNAA members as nuisances and frequently respond with technological and social anti-trolling measures (such as comment moderation) to limit future disruption caused by trolling. Contents [showhide] 1 Background information 2 Membership 3 Activities 4 Trivia 5 See also 6 References 7 External links [edit] Background information The group originated on the Slashdot website. It claims to consist of six leaders and approximately 30 to 40 other members. GNAA first appeared in January 2003, trolling Slashdot using ASCII art logos representing the organization and satirical news releases pertaining to the contents of Slashdot articles. They also have their own IRC server, which is connected to "NiggerNET" reachable by irc.gnaa.us. The main GNAA channel is #gnaa. The GNAA website states: "We do not support and do not promote racism, homophobia, etc." [1] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] ) [edit] Membership GNAA encourages people to join by watching the 1992 Danish low-budget movie Gayniggers From Outer Space, from which their name derives. The GNAA's entry requirements also include successfully achieving a "first post" on Slashdot consisting of GNAA Internet troll text, or registering support by upwardly moderating GNAA comments. A test on the subject matter in Gayniggers From Outer Space is then administered by an IRC bot. The GNAA has a signature which their members use whenever they perform a crapflood or post a news release. The full "sig", which includes an embedded ASCII art picture of the letters "GNAA" on a wall, can be found on their website. It begins: GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS. Are you GAY? Are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for! [2] (http://www.gnaa.us/about.phtml [www.gnaa.us] ) [edit] Activities GNAA gained notoriety in the Slashdot community when they launched several flood attacks against the site. [3] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100374&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) [4] (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100381&thresh old=-1 [slashdot.org] ) Slashdot subsequently implemented open proxy-banning measures in its posting system; GNAA members claim that their crapflooding campaign spurred this change. They registered thousands of usernames en masse to mark Slashdot editor "michael" as their foe. [5] (http://slashdot.org/~michael/freaks [slashdot.org] ) During May 2004, GNAA members flooded the popular image board 4chan, contributing to the fourth non-permanent shutdown of the site shortly thereafter. In the list of reasons why it closed down, the administrator wrote: "Flooding. GNAA put the final nail in the coffin, however I am thankful that they willingly ceased the flood after finding out it was costing me money." [6] (http://www.4chan.org/index3.php [4chan.org] ) However, a poster on the Something Awful Forums later stated that this was only one of several factors that caused them to be shut down: "It was not the GNAA who killed 4chan (I quite like them actually), or really the moronic users, it was a man named Chris, who goes by the name TheRowan and runs a business that shuts you down if you fail to play along." [7] (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s =&threadid=724028 [somethingawful.com] ) In July 2004, GNAA member JesuitX submitted leaked screenshots of the then-forthcoming operating system Mac OS X v10.4 to popular Apple Macintosh news website MacRumors (http://www.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com] ). [8] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062604 1303.shtml [macrumors.com] ) [9] (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/2004062720 2026.shtml [macrumors.com] ) A report on the site reads "With WWDC just days away, the first Tiger information and screenshots appears to have been leaked. According to sources, Apple will reportedly provide developers with a Mac OS X 10.4 Preview copy at WWDC on Monday. The screenshots provided reportedly come from this upcoming developer preview." [10] (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-7 7079 [macrumors.com] ) When the source was found to be from the GNAA, many declared the screenshots to be fake, based on the organization's apparent disreputability. The GNAA released a press release which claimed that the screenshots [11] (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=520 [appleinsider.com] ) were genuine (cf. official Apple screenshots (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html) [apple.com] ), and that the Apple community had been trolled. [12] (http://www.gnaa.us/pr.phtml?troll=gnaa-apple [www.gnaa.us] ) GNAA members have created the shock site Last Measure, which often factors into their crapfloods as the destination of links or redirects, and made its source code available under the revised BSD license. [13] (http://lastmeasure.com/ [lastmeasure.com] GNAA also runs a conference call system, which they use to troll various companies and people, including AOL. They have produced an MP3 which combines samples from their prank AOL calls with the "Hey, everybody! I'm looking at gay porno!" voice from Last Measure. In late 2004, the GNAA discovered vulnerabilities in weblogging service Xanga. [14] (http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure /2005-January/030506.html [netsys.com] ) [edit] Trivia * GNAA member rolloffle (also known as James A. C. Joyce) wrote the article "Why your Movable Type blog must die (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/2/171117/882 3 [kuro5hin.org] )", which then made it to the front page of the community-moderated site kuro5hin, despite the fact that its author was a notorious troll. * The GNAA has created many scripts to carry out its activities, including specialized scripts for crapflooding sites. * On Freenode's IRC server, the #GNAA channel redirects to #you_have_got_to_be_kidding with a warning message indicating that the network might be inappropriate. This is standard Freenode behavior for juped channels. Other IRC networks similarly jupe #GNAA. * In contrast to their lo-fi ASCII text sigs, the GNAA website appears to parody the slick design of many corporate websites. It features pictures of African American athletes and professionals, apparently taken from stock image archives. [edit] See also * Slashdot trolling phenomena * Internet troll * Trolltalk

LPI must run their servers... (1)

guitaristx (791223) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570306)

... on a Windows box. Their site is already getting slow. Makes me pretty uninterested in getting a certification from them.

Re:LPI must run their servers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570492)

It's Apache/1.3.26 on Debian with PHP4 and mod_perl.

On a cable modem connection.

Attacking the messenger's horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570725)

And in what way is the capacity of a website relevant to the quality of educational course material?

What does (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570349)

LPI stand for? And what the fuck is wrong with you... there's no reason to say "LPI LPIC" when the LPI in LPIC stands for the same fucking thing.

'is the authoritative tree-based text to aid and abet interested parties accomplishing a LPI LPIC level 1 certification'

What the fuck is this... who the fuck talks like this. It's a god damn book for the LPIC 1. That's all you gotta say. Adding all the other shit may make it sound like it's really hard to get the certification and that you aren't just an IT dickhead who dropped out of CS.

Re:What does (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570635)

You just made us read several lines of crap complaining about 3 characters. You also seem very angry. You may want to seek a doctors prescription for happy pills.

You might be a good sysadmin (0, Offtopic)

The Bungi (221687) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570457)

But you FLUNK teh LISP. You didn't close all your parenthesis.

What the fuck (is wrong with) you? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570843)

Stop typing (like this). Motherfucker. It (is very) annoying and (hard to) read.

Rather SuSE than RH (1)

DexterF (862428) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570848)

Just FYI, LPI is rather SuSE orientated, as seen in the 2-years-due Level 3 for which you have to know Yast inside out. Apart from that - the real problem with LPI is no their hardware but acceptance. Usually the answers to the current set of questions start filing into to the net after a while and the test comes down to "find and learn answers by heart" - and companies know that, at least those aware of LPI. Those who are not don't care anyway.

The Software Doesn't Work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12570859)

I bought this book mostly for the practice exam engine included on the CD. Too bad it doesn't work! I tried both the original version and the "fixed" version linked above on 2 different machines (one Slackware Current, one Hoary Ubuntu) and it fails giving a "no exam files found" error every time. I'm not a linux noob, and the exam files _are_ there, so I concluded that the software is hosed. My emails to the publisher and author went unanswered, so I sold my book to Half-Price for ~ $2. Caveat Emptor!

Re:The Software Doesn't Work (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570957)

I'm not a linux noob, and the exam files _are_ there, so I concluded that the software is hosed.

Maybe that was the troubleshooting section of the exam and you failed it? Being able to get something to work is always important if you want to get certified. ;)

LPIC vs RHCE .. (1)

bzImage8 (676865) | more than 9 years ago | (#12570886)

How the LPIC compares against the RHCE ?

What is the best ? (yea i know experience is the best, i know, but just compare this 2 certs).

But, what proves to be better for the companies and individuals ?

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