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Give Your DVD Player The Finger

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the hilarious-double-entendre dept.

Security 620

sebFlyte writes "Wired is reporting on some scary new DRM tech being developed. From the article: 'At the store, someone buying a new DVD would have to provide a password or some kind of biometric data, like a fingerprint or iris scan, which would be added to the DVD's RFID tag. Then, when the DVD was popped into a specially equipped DVD player, the viewer would be required to re-enter the data.'"

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Authenticate This! (4, Funny)

A Boy and His Blob (772370) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577962)

I like my idea for a bimodal hand geometry/voice recognition system better, me giving the MPAA the finger while telling them to "bite my shiny metal ass."

Re:Authenticate This! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578048)

I am happy I still have my VCR

Zonk Gives You The Finger (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12577963)

Zonk,

We all know you don't read Slashdot, but we assumed you were at least reading the stories you approved. I guess we were wrong!

RFID Tags for Digital Rights Management [slashdot.org] Posted by Zonk

Anyone who read Sunday's RFID Journal story [rfidjournal.com] and today's Wired story [wired.com] would realize they're about the exact same thing.

If you really did read the two stories, and your memory is this bad, maybe you should see a doctor?

Flamebait? Zonk duped HIMSELF! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578058)

I call Zonk's actions as an editor Flamebait. It's bad enough when editors don't read the site and post dupes, but it's a whole new level of ineptitude when editors can't be bothered to read the stories they approve.

Gifts? Online purchases? (5, Interesting)

lecithin (745575) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577965)

"biometric data, like a fingerprint or iris scan, which would be added to the DVD's RFID tag."

Can I just use the finger that I found at Wendy's?

Seriously though, what if you wanted to buy a gift for somebody? This isn't going to work all that well.

How about on-line purchases? Would they take a 'sample' and keep it on file to encode something at a later time. Who is going to trust the security of that?

I don't see it happening.

Re:Gifts? Online purchases? (1)

jsheedy (772604) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578177)

Mommy, Mommy, can I borrow your finger tonight, I want to watch all my new movies.

Re:Gifts? Online purchases? (1)

lecithin (745575) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578197)

Well, it could be worse.

It could be an iris scan!!!

Re:Gifts? Online purchases? (5, Insightful)

0x461FAB0BD7D2 (812236) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578199)

I doubt it will be used for retail DVDs as it wouldn't be cost-effective.

However, it may yet be useful in securing workprints and pre-release copies. That would decrease bootlegging. A workprint of Star Wars III hit the BitTorrent networks yesterday. You can be sure George is looking to employ this technology when he makes his next Indiana Jones.

fP? (2, Funny)

c0ldfusi0n (736058) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577970)

I, for one, welcome our new finger-reading DVD-playing overlords.

Re:fP? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578072)

Oh god enough with the stupid cliches! I don't believe anyone finds these funny anymore, well maybe the pre-pubescent portion of slashdot.. But no one else!

user friendly (4, Funny)

jmke (776334) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577973)

that seems like a very user friendly system; way to go!

Re:user friendly (2, Insightful)

bombadillo (706765) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578095)

Exactly. Am I supposed to walk up to my DVD and authenticate every time I play a movie? Even if they get this thing on a remote (Which opens up exploits) it's still a pain. I say let them try and impliment this. No one will use their product.

This is a non-starter (5, Insightful)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577974)


Couple quotes from TFA:


Ed Felten, a computer science professor at Princeton University, called the proposal the "limit of restrictiveness."
"I think people would find it creepy to give their fingerprint every time they wanted to play a DVD," Felten said. "It's hard to think that would be acceptable to customers."

Seth Schoen, staff technologist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said it's unlikely this DRM plan will be any more effective than others preceding it.
"It only requires one person to break it," Schoen said.
Schoen said this is the "smart cow problem": Once one of the cows opens the gate, the others will follow.


Unfavorable bovine comparisons notwithstanding, these two statements sum up nicely why this will never happen:

  • The tech-savvy will easily find a way around this protection...it's only a matter of time.
  • The tech-non-savvy will be so inconvinenced and put off by this incredibly restrictive protection that the public outcry will be deafening.
  • The tech-somewhat-savvy, who previously couldn't be bothered to break other, less restrictive protections like region codes, will have vastly increased incentive to seek out the cracks produced by the aformentioned tech-savvy group, thus effectively compounding the problem.

    Add to all this the increased costs of manufacturing the 'specially equipped DVD players' mentioned in the article, and it's easy to see why this idea is a non-starter.

Re:This is a non-starter (4, Informative)

blowdart (31458) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578220)

The tech-savvy will easily find a way around this protection...it's only a matter of time.

Already done [interesting-people.org] . Finegrprints are easily fakeable, another reason to reject biometrics. If someone else uses your fingerprints how can you recall it, change it?

Invasive technologies... (5, Insightful)

ylikone (589264) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577975)

such as this will never work. Because people will not buy products with this stuff on it.

I hope.

wow..just wow (2, Insightful)

Rackemup (160230) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577977)

And this is going to "save" how much money at the sake of convenience?

Brave New First Post (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12577982)

Looks like my collection of severed fingers FINALLY has a use!

Re:Brave New First Post (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578078)

Oh my. That was funny.

Yehaa (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12577983)

Yes, finally! I always wanted this!

This will never work (1)

youknowmewell (754551) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577984)

So much hassle just to play a DVD? It'll never work. People are already used to the ease of using DRM-less DVD players already, they'll never switch to that.

Re:This will never work (4, Insightful)

calibanDNS (32250) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578051)

FYI, current generation DVD players are not DRM-less, the DRM is just transparent to most users so they can ignore it. With a system like this, the DRM just becomes obvious to the average Joe. Of course, maybe this is what we finally need to happen to give the average Joe a kick in the ass to be opposed to DRM.

Re:This will never work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578228)

perhaps yours is not DRM-less.... but there are hacks out there for a lot of them that not only play the CSS encrypted DVD, but remove the macrovision so that they can then be copied to VHS bery nicely

Why would anyone buy this? (5, Insightful)

Stop Error (823742) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577985)

I for one would go back to a VCR before submitting to this. Simply insane to think that I need to be treated like a thief when BUYING something they think I may STEAL later. (making available)

This is nuts.

Let me be the first to say.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12577986)

WHAT?!

So, no movie for me (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12577987)

if a disgruntled Wendy's customer severs my finger on the way home from the DVD store?

Another doomed idea (2, Insightful)

khelms (772692) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577988)

I sometimes think most people are sheep, but still I doubt they will put up with this.

Re:Another doomed idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578195)

It is not doomed... all would it take is for Bush to appear and tell people some truths mingled with lies, name God and national security and all the herd will follow. Wacht it... happening as I type. FUD BUSH!

RFID National IDs (1)

vandon (233276) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577990)

Why not just use what they're already going to force on us. Make the DVD linked to your national ID.

"Please insert your ID card to play"

With a fingerprint... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12577992)

... you can't buy one as a present for someone.

So... (2, Insightful)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577995)

...what you are saying is you want to force another procedure on a wage slave who will, in all likelyhood mess it up royally ( because of being the affore mentioned wage slave ).

Right. You know, I'm all for worrying about my rights, but I think, at least in this, we are being far to paraniod for our own good. And in the process, giving your average walmart worker far too much credit.

In Soviet Russia... (-1)

SFA_AOK (752620) | more than 9 years ago | (#12577997)

... Nah, too obvious ;)

Re:In Soviet Russia... (0)

lb746 (721699) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578167)

..... your dvd player fingers you... hmm could be a great new idea actually... when does it release in america?

Will this technology be applied (1)

Zabu (589690) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578000)

to bootleg dvds?

it won't work (1)

kinsoa (550794) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578001)

how could this be implemented in Emule ?

Re:it won't work (1)

dgos78 (881140) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578146)

it's called a "camcorder"

I hope you don't have kids. (5, Insightful)

Gondola (189182) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578006)

You'd have to keep running back to the DVD player every time they wanted to watch one of the 10,000 Disney and other assorted DVDs that they like to watch endlessly.

This is crazy talk, really, and really prevents the fair use rights we have now (loaning to friends, etc.)

Why don't they just sell tickets every time we want to watch a DVD? "They're $2 cheaper per viewing than going to the theater!"

"Mommy, the movie broke again!" (5, Funny)

FunWithHeadlines (644929) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578114)

Ringing phone.

"Hello?"

"Mommy, movie broke again."

"Honey, I told you that when I'm at work I cannot authorize, er unlock the movie for you."

"Mommy, I wanna watch my movie!"

"I know, sweetheart, but I can't come home until later. Please play with your toys until then, or let your older brother play one of his movies for you instead."

"Yuck! Hate "Kill, Kick, & Maim!" I wanna watch "Honeydumpling Sweethearts" again."

"I understand, but you'll have to wait."

"WAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

(Silently cursing DRM)

they tried that (1)

Nf1nk (443791) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578173)

It was called DivX (not to be confused with the encoding scheme) circuit city was tried launching it at the same time as normal DVDs. In case you forgot, you paid around $10 for a DVD and old watch it for 2 days, if you wanted to watch it again you could pay $5 and watch it for 2 more days, o pay another $10 to unlock the video forever.
People hated it, the only remnent is a character on penny-arcade.

So much for the element of surprise (0, Redundant)

gotroot801 (7857) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578010)

So if I want to buy my cousin a DVD for her birthday, I'd either need to bring her with me or chop off her finger? Marvelous!

Re:So much for the element of surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578122)

No No No,
just chop off her finger before you go to buy
the DVD. I bet she has been downloading movies
anyway. Problem solved.

Regards, MPAA

No fair-use? No thanks! (5, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578016)

Then, when the DVD was popped into a specially equipped DVD player, the viewer would be required to re-enter his or her password or fingerprint. The system would require consumers to buy new DVD players with RFID readers.

The market has already proven this won't work.

Gadh said he could not reveal specifically how the system would work, as it is still in the research stage. A prototype will be available by the end of the summer, he said, and at that point, it will be shopped around to movie studios and technology companies.

Thanks for giving this company free advertising to the media conglomorates Wired/Slashdot, the market appreciates it!

When something strinkingly familiar was posted a couple of days ago here [slashdot.org] , I said almost exactly what I am going to say here: How does this product enable me to enact fair-use?

It doesn't.

Re:No fair-use? No thanks! (4, Informative)

applemasker (694059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578184)

Perhaps this is being nitpicky, but it's worth pointing outh that "Fair Use" (and parody for that matter) are not "rights," per se. Only authors/creators of the work (not the public) are granted rights under the Copyright Act.

As a dotrine, Fair Use is an affirmative defense to a claim of infringement. This means the person claiming Fair Use has the burden of proving that their actions did not constitute infringement.

The obvious problem, if you are defending an infringement claim is that it is extremely expensive to succssfully raise a Fair Use or Parody defense, which, if it fails, causes the heavy hammer of infringement and all its penalties falls down upon you. Because of this, it's common to hear, "Yes, it's probably fair use. You will spend a billion dollars to get a chance to prove that." Just ask these guys [wired.com] .

This would kill the industry (5, Insightful)

mbrinkm (699240) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578018)

I, for one, would never purchase a product that required this level of security for my home entertainment. The only time I would consider giving my fingerprint or some other biometric data would be for a HIGH security job.

I don't trust any person at electronics stores with my SS#, why would I trust them with more personal information?

What happens when you loose your finger? (3, Funny)

Hulkster (722642) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578024)

Or optionally, if you happen to come across a finger in your Wendy's Chili, can you use that to watch their DVD collection?

Re:What happens when you loose your finger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578133)

That was my first thought. If you want to give a DVD for a gift, you have to give a finger too.

"Thanks! You gave me a DVD and the Finger"

Re:What happens when you loose your finger? (1)

DeepDarkSky (111382) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578165)

On the other hand (or finger), now your fingers CAN be used to pay off your debt.

Not even an option (0, Redundant)

raider_red (156642) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578026)

I think I'd just give up watching movies completely, and read more. There's no way I'm providing biometric data for something I should have fair use rights to in the first place.

I wouldn't worry about this (2, Insightful)

artifex2004 (766107) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578027)

This will be about as desired in the market as the DVDs designed to cloud over in 24 hours after being unsealed, or DIVX.
There's no compelling reason for consumers to agree to even more useless encumberance than we already face with CSS, Macrovision and region coding.

What fingerprint would they need? (5, Funny)

jocknerd (29758) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578029)

My kids have put about a million fingerprints on all my dvds.

Old DVDs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578035)

Does it mean I would have to buy RFID tags for my old DVDs before I can watch them in this "new" player?

No matter the case. I wouldn't be buying DVDs or DVD players anymore.

Not gonna work. (1)

Pants75 (708191) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578036)

I doubt it'll even get to market.
If I buy a teletubbies DVD for my kids I'll be damned if I have to demean myself to actually playing it for them!
I'd rather not be in the house at all when that sh*t is happening.

Pete

DIVX (1)

tscheez (71929) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578037)

Won't they learn? people don't want players that have all this extra stuff on them.

Sure divx was a way to "rent" dvd's but it amounts to the same thing. People want to feel like they actually own a movie. Asking permission to watch a movie is not what the public wants.

Outrageous! (5, Funny)

bigtallmofo (695287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578040)

I'm used to being able to do whatever I want with my current DVDs. I can take them to any region of the world and play them with no problem. If I want to fast-forward through the several minutes of commercials at the beginning of a DVD, no problem. If I want to make a backup copy in case the original gets destroyed, the movie companies have bent over backwards to make this easy.

DVDs have never been horribly crippled in any way in the past, so they shouldn't be in the future.

Re:Outrageous! (1)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578224)

What are you smoking?

DVDs are region locked, designed to operate in one region.

DVDs are encrypted, designed to prevent ripping.

Certain scenes are locked and must be played through. designed to prevent skipping.

It is only because of hackers and the DVD Player manufacturers that you can do all these wonderful things you think come build in.

Hear that? (1)

jpmorgan (517966) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578042)

It's the sound of me not buying one of those DVD players. Woosh.

How long (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578045)

... until DVD Jon cracks this?

Dupe? (1)

Lifewish (724999) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578046)

This would seem to be the same story covered here [slashdot.org] . It's been repackaged a lot in its passage round the news outlets, so I'm not surprised Zonk didn't spot it.

hmmm (5, Funny)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578052)

So, after dad dies, I'm gonna hafta keep his finger around to view his pr0n collection? That's doubly creepy...

password (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578057)

i think using biometrics would be a little extreme, but if youre required to use a password, dont you think that the average use would just write it on the disc to remember it?
whats the point of this anyway?

If it can be seen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578061)

it can be ripped. Give it up, people.

Wow. (1)

labratuk (204918) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578063)

Talk about ways to make me want to buy a pirated disc.

Libraries (3, Insightful)

aarku (151823) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578066)

This would screw over libraries. How sick.

intrusiveness (1)

GameSlave (870135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578067)

this is getting ridiculous, what's next ? "ok sir, your credit card has been approved now please turn around, bend over and spread 'em" "Please press the 'play' button on your remote, then insert into rectum ... Id accepted, please enjoy your movie."

So much for borrows a friends... (1)

Waken66 (885236) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578073)

It seems like there are too many situations where it wouldnt work to actually be a positive thing. And what happens with blockbuster and netflix?

DIVX (2, Insightful)

Captain_Chaos (103843) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578074)

Sounds good. Should be at least as popular as DIVX.

Genious (1)

dnoyeb (547705) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578076)

The more steps you add to a intuitively simply process as popping in a CD and pushing play, the more annoyed end users will be. And the less likely they are to use your tedious product, on a subconcious level.

This will make the negative feelings surrounding systems like pay-per-view seem less so.

Yeah right... (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578079)

If they asked me to do that at the store, I can assure everyone its not my finger that would be brought out to be scanned...

Pull my finger (1)

kyoko21 (198413) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578081)

I would think that would give a whole new definition to the phrase "pull my finger" when you want to lend the DVD to a friend to borrow. Ouch!

This isn't a problem (2, Insightful)

TLouden (677335) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578085)

It's not a practical technology. If the father purchases a dvd player for the family you can't reasonably expect that he'll be in the house every time somebody want's to play the dvd. I'm sure it's fun to work on such devices but it won't replace the existing systems in any major way.

chances are (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578092)

the chance of this happening are about as good as the ipod and google disappearing in 5 years,

The finger is nice but (1)

BaCkBuRn (621588) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578103)

How about I give them a stool sample.

But seriously, how does this physical DRM safeguard actually do anything?
This only hurts the consumer by making the hardware and media more expensive. The common person that purchases DVDs isnt going to be the one that that copys them.
Just like CSS this new form of DRM will be cracked.

This will ENCOURAGE piracy (5, Insightful)

sunderland56 (621843) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578105)

So, if this comes to pass, huge numbers of people will buy the DVD, take it home, enter their fingerprint ONCE, and rip it to a non-protected copy. Then, they'll just use the much-more convenient copy.

In other words, everyone will have and regularly use a DVD copier. And, once you're copying it for yourself, what's the difference if you make a few extra copies? Hey, while I'm sitting here, Aunt Martha might enjoy this movie too.....

so... (1)

zxnos (813588) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578119)

...would this be the end of movie rentals? no more late fees to be sure.

i really dont think this would fly. people arent going to want to buy a new player, plus what if you are going to a friends house for movie night? bring your player? yeah right.

fingerprints on DVDs? (1)

Baorc (794142) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578124)

It's funny how corporations have better security or power than government agencies. Like why not just hook up everyone with a unique ID so we can all be tracked everywhere we go?

On a somewhat relative note, this will obviously be tracked to a centralized database and just think about the next time you have to get your security checked (for government workers) or background checked.

Employer : "I see you bought a porn last year, and you've been watching it everynight since the purchase date..."

nice, just nice.

Horrible... (1)

Transcendent (204992) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578130)

This is horrible for sales. Mainly because giving a DVD for a gift is going to be a pain in the ass. Either you'd have to be there for them to watch it all the time, or somehow have THEM buy it... for their own gift...

"Honey, can I get your finger print before I go to the store?

My FINGER PRINT? ...are you buying me another DVD?

Uhh.... nooooo.... just uh...."

Evil Researchers (2, Insightful)

adavies42 (746183) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578141)

Ordinarily, I'm all for free scientific inquiry, but people like this really make me wonder sometimes. Does this kind of guy even think of the consequences to society before he starts assembling a new freedom-defeating device? I worry sometimes that RFID, biometrics, etc. researchers are going to usher in the true Big Brother era mostly through their own shortsightedness in only looking ahead to the next grant or journal article.

Market for rubber fingers (1)

G4from128k (686170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578150)

Just buy a 6-pack of fake fingers with identical prints. Leave one next to each player, give them to your friends, etc. Time to trademark and register phakephinger.com

Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578152)

The requirement for fingerprints means that I no longer travel to the US, and they think they can require it in order to watch "Friends"? Barking mad!

Which finger ? (1)

alexhs (877055) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578154)

Give Your DVD Player The Finger

Can I choose the middle one ?

Netflix/Blockbuster? (1)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578155)

How would this reasonably work for DVD rentals? I sense we have another divx (the bad kind of the later 1990s) here and customers will tell them which finger they can have: ..|..

Heh (1)

future assassin (639396) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578159)

Screw this, Im going back to using a VCR and Beta tapes.

Buy the DVD, hook it up to a VHS machine and hit record. Then transfer the movie from the VCR using a computer and burn your pirated DVD.





http://www.evolver.ca/ [evolver.ca]

DRM DVD doa (1)

harvey the nerd (582806) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578161)

drm is dos = DOA my money, my way, or the highway - just ask my former cable company

who would buy that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578169)

That would be the last thing I'd waste my hard earned money on. I'd rather buy a DVD player/burner combo that supports multiple formats, is faster, DRM free, and based on open standards.

"Specially equiped dvd player" (1)

Emetophobe (878584) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578171)

This would've been a great idea (for the MPAA) if they thought of this BEFORE everyone already owned a dvd player or two.

the enemies of freedom (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12578176)


are not in the middle east, they are in the universities and companies of USA who think of fasicst schemes like that are acceptable

Remember DIVX? (1)

lildogie (54998) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578179)

No, not that DIVX, the old Rent-a-DVD-that-phones-home DIVX.

That was less intrusive, and it flopped because people didn't buy it.

I'll bet this new technology doesn't get even as far as DIVX did.

Military Secrets , (1)

Zapdos (70654) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578180)

Trade Secrets, and screener movies possibly, but NOT comercial DVD movies.

Maybe comercial software activation.

Now that's smart... (2, Interesting)

budhaboy (717823) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578183)

Make it impossible to give DVDs/CDs as gifts.

I'm sure the MPIA/RIAA are going to be all over this.

ya, sure (1)

jesusfingchrist (853886) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578187)

this will never happen. it's not illegal to let someone borrow your dvd without you being there.

ill believe this a little more when we get iris scans in airports for HOMELAND security.

poor poor big companies need better security technology than airports.

Gifting (1)

Moby Cock (771358) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578198)

The idea is insane. It will never work. Among all the other reasons, is that they would hamstring their own industry. I believe that a significant margin of DVD sales are for gifts. I have only ever bought a DVD as a gift and all of my DVDs (all 4 of them) were gifts. If you need biometrics to play them then the gift system breaks down.

The notion will never gain traction. It's quite stupid.

With a system this secure..... (1)

Volvogga (867092) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578201)

....there will be no way for anyone to pirate the DVDs, right?
So then the price of DVDs should drop to $5-$10 a pop, RIGHT MPAA?
YOUR NOT LOSING YOUR MONEY ANYMORE RIGHT? SO THE PRICE WILL BE REASONABLE, RIGHT YOU PRICKS?

Where's the Tylenol?

What about porn DVDs? (1)

ccr (168366) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578204)

Maybe there should be a .. erhm .. different biometric sampler for those.

Different comments (1)

jurt1235 (834677) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578206)

A. When I provide this data, do I get a complimentary gun with each purchase, I provided enough data.

B. People leave their fingerprints all over the DVD's I rent, rendering them pretty unusable until you clean them, so they do not have problems with leaving their prints I would say.

C. Does this player also play my old DVD's or do I have to buy the DVD's I already have again just to be able to play them (paying double, or since I live in the Neterlands: Triple, they also charge me an amount on empty datacarriers just in case I might copy something, hum, does that not make it legal to copy, I already paid for it anyway.)

Handicapp Accessable? (2, Insightful)

uniqueUser (879166) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578210)

Me not having hands, will I be able to buy DVDs in the future?

This has already been cracked... (1)

Westech (710854) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578212)

This has already been cracked... With gelatin! [com.com]

I can see it now: Street corner DVD pirates will be providing gelatin finger-keys with each DVD they sell.

Obviously a stupid concept (1)

Vengeance (46019) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578215)

Why is it though, that organizations made up of seemingly intelligent people will spend so much time and money coming up with crap noone will want?

Who in the hell is going to be willing to go through a fingerprint scan or whatnot in order to purchase a DVD? How about anal probes for people buying books while we're at it?

This won't work: (2, Insightful)

brontus3927 (865730) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578216)

  • For gift purchases - I've bought as many DVD's as gifts as I have for myself.
  • For online pruchases - I've bought more DVD's online through eBay and Columbia House, than I have in a store
  • For reselling old DVDs - I don't care what the
  • MPAA wants, I don't need to copies of Shawshank Redemption. When I got the Collector's Edition, I sold the original on eBay.
  • For DVD rentals - rentals are a big part of the DVD space. You think Blockbuster is going to go for this?
  • For small resellers - Is the MPAA going to stock every mom&pop cd shack that also sells DVDs with biometric devices for this? Small time operations certainly can't afford to buy this stuff themselves.
  • For households where there is more than one person and the buyer actually has a life (i.e. isn't available to biometrically okay the playing 24/7
  • For fair use applications (not that the MPAA cares about that)
  • For disabled persons - what if they don't have that finger anymore for some reason, or its covered with a bandage temporaily?

On second thought, I hope the MPAA does this, so a huge class-action lawsuit against the MPAA is filed on behalf of all the people who can't use it. And another class-action suit for all the sellers who loose business because of it. And another by the EFF or whoever on behalf of consumers in general. We could be looking at several billion dollars here, all told.

Sure (1)

Infestivus (883584) | more than 9 years ago | (#12578223)

All that just to buy and watch a DVD? Certainly not. I'd sooner switch back to VHS than go with a system like that. It won't work, hopefully. I'll be damned if it does.
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