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iTunes 4.9 To Support Podcasting

Hemos posted more than 9 years ago | from the well-of-course-it-will dept.

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WaRrK writes "O'Reilly Radar are reporting that in a demo at D: All Things Digital Conference, Steve Jobs showed off iTunes 4.9, which has support for iPodder like functionality. Although, he was "slightly" dismissive of the phenomena, describing it as "Wayne's World for radio". Also, whilst currently only supporting free content, they are not ruling out paid for podcasting in the future. iTunes 4.9 should be available within 60 days." Yeah, Steve's kinda right on this - podcasting is neat & all, but the breathy overstatement of how it will change our lives is a wee bit overdone.

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What I'm looking for is (-1, Offtopic)

thundercatslair (809424) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611590)

Unix suport. I tried using gtkpod with my photo and it killed it.

well.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611599)

so what's left for itunes 5?

Re:well.. (0)

/ASCII (86998) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611612)

They've got a brand new major number, they don't really need new features.

Re:well.. (4, Interesting)

tbone1 (309237) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611676)

so what's left for itunes 5?

Video store. They've already got all the front-end functionality built into iTunes 4, so ...

Re:well.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611860)

And I recall, just recently, someone was joking about using the simplex method to find the best seat in a theater to see Star Wars.

Well, now we have a motive for the murder, at least.


Brain storm! (2, Interesting)

3770 (560838) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611685)

Brain storm.

Movies (not just videos).

Lyrics for songs.

Karaoke.

Mixing (be your own DJ with pitch control and sound effects).

Support for independent vendors (a band could bypass the labels and list their content directly on iTunes). It could be possible for any band to list their songs on iTunes at a price they choose. And it could be done from the iTunes client. It really doesn't have to be very complicated. ...aaaand that's where I ran out of creativity for today. Thanks very much buddy. Now I have to work rest of the day without doing anything creative! ;)

Re:Brain storm! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611843)

It's always sad when a great scientific mind dies. And I recall, just recently, someone was joking about using the simplex method to find the best seat in a theater to see Star Wars.

Re:well.. (3, Funny)

GaryPatterson (852699) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611720)

Ogg Vorbis support for the three people on the planet who use it.

Re:well.. (1)

halleluja (715870) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611770)

Ogg Vorbis support for the three people on the planet who use it. A lot of released games use ogg vorbis, e.g. FarCry, SWAT 4. So that's a hell of a lot more than 3 people.

Re:well.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611810)

As is the ABC [abc.net.au] .

Re:well.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611834)

Goodbye, dear friend.
We hardly knew ye.
And we certainly had no idea what you were talking about.

Re:well.. (1)

slimey_limey (655670) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611872)

I am going to switch in a few weekends. I just want that Rio Karma!

Why does /login.pl not work for me (503 Service Unavailable), but this post-comment-and-login thingy work?

Re:well.. (1)

slimey_limey (655670) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611904)

It also wants me to metamoderate, but I get a 503 for /metamod.pl as well. :(

Re:well.. (2, Interesting)

baryon351 (626717) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611733)

A rewrite to fix the numerous little annoying bugs that were introduced in versions after 2.0. Things like lag on 500mhz G3s when playing music and renaming tags, or sporadic pauses, dumping the clumsy parts of the old interface - just making the same old app work how they should have.

Apple seem to be pushing ahead so quickly (and well I might add) in advancing really useful features, that sometimes the old small bugs just get forgotten, and it's only when they've accumulated over several versions that together they make an app annoying.

(cue comments on the Finder now too)

Re:well.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611805)

CBC radio is without question the best radio station I've had the chance to listen to on a regular basis. Their programming is very diverse and there is a good representation of all points of view though they tend to lean slightly to the left.

Quirks and Quarks is excellent as is Northern Lights and Dispatches and Ideas and tons of other shows that are directed at an above average IQ listener. They are federally funded and unencumbered by the requirement to "have the numbers" and don't have to stoop to the lowest common denominator.

BBC is often hailed as the pinnacle of independent jounralism but I find their broadcasts have a very condescending patronizing bias when they report from "lesser" places such as Eastern Europe, Asia or Africa. Somehow, CBC manages to bring lots of news from all over the world while avoiding that annoying condescending tone that permeates the Beeb.

You can listen to CBC live. The links are on their website.


Re:well.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611921)

It's a well known fact that intelligence is inversely proportional to common sence.

first post... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611607)

podcasting sux

podcasting, bah! (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611609)

I want DAB in the iPod

Reality Check (5, Insightful)

LegendOfLink (574790) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611623)

Yeah, Steve's kinda right on this - podcasting is neat & all, but the breathy overstatement of how it will change out lives is a wee bit overdone.

Finally, somebody with a little common sense! Honestly, how many people out there actually use the internet to listen to people's podcasts? I surely don't. It's faster to skim through articles in a blog than to listen to some amateur whine about how he thinks Walmart is the ultimate evil in the world.

Re:Reality Check (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611666)

Everyone should read about apple's shitty customer service.

I just found this editorial link about what happens to apple's normal customers (ie, not the guys getting sent review machines at tom's hardware) http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=665 [sudhian.com]

It's shocking and I can't believe the apple fanboys put up with shit like this.

Re:Reality Check (2, Informative)

VxJasonxV (792809) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611680)

For those offering looking to continually offer new content, and that content that can go anywhere, podcasting is a big help.
A radio station that I help run (not on air, but the web side, backend, etc.) benefits a lot from podcasting, because not everyone can catch the live show.
So we have a 'wrap up podcast' with a few extra benefits.
So those who CAN catch the live show get it all and then some.

No, it's not as revolutionary as Internet Radio itself, but it is already quite popular and has several advantages.
A simple feature like being able to play more of your favorite media, easier is not a bad thing to implement.

Re:Reality Check (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611866)

If so, George has certainly earned a look at The Book. [c2.com] ^(1/2)

Re:Reality Check (4, Informative)

frantzdb (22281) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611729)

I don't know about individuals' podcasts, but real radiostations [kcrw.org] are doing it too. It's the easiest way I know of to get time- and space-shifted radio shows.

(You've got to love the nutral point of view of Slashdot articles.)

Re:Reality Check (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611811)

Australia's ABC radio national is currently testing podcasting as well, and should have it available to the public in the next week or so. There's a little fine tuning going on, and working out how to work around copyright restrictions - some radio shows have content they aren't licensed to allow downloads of, only to stream, so the podcasted shows are often edited.

Not a problem with their science & commentary ones, which are the most worth listening to IMHO.

Re:Reality Check (3, Interesting)

Bender0x7D1 (536254) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611742)

Podcasting is a fad. It is new (as in new buzzword), uses a cool technolgy (iPods) and gives people something to do. Remember (or have you heard of) the pet rock, the hula hoop, Beanie Babies and Tickle-me Elmo? People jumped on the bandwagon, spent a lot of money buying these items and then realized - "This isn't that fun, that great or that cool. Why did I think it was?"

Just put up with it for 6 more months and all the hype will die down. If it doesn't, then just make sure your own podcasts are about how podcasts are lame.

Re:Reality Check (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611807)

Add NPR [npr.org] , Legal too.

Re:Reality Check (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611932)

Kids in a second grade class in Brunswick, Germany were asked to sum all integers from 1 to 100. That should have kept them busy for a while but some 8-year old boy - son of a peasant gardener - said in bored voice: "the result is 5050 of course, 50 times 101 ". His name was Gauss.

Re:Reality Check (1)

Trix606 (324224) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611753)

Podcasting gives almost anyone with a little technical know-how the ability to create a broadcast for others to hear. Like any open forum it has both good and bad content. For some examples of the good stuff check out http://www.graperadio.com/ [graperadio.com] and http://www.reelreviewsradio.com/ [reelreviewsradio.com] .
These guys get podcasting right.

Re:Reality Check (5, Informative)

Jesse_132 (830242) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611779)

Just like blogs, there are gems. Plus existing programs work better as podcasts than broadcasts.

IT Conversations [itconversations.com] (Doug Kaye project), is a top notch Podcasting source. (ok, it was around before the rage about podcasting, but podcasting made it integrate with my life).

Public Radio Fan [publicradiofan.com] also has a list of many podcasts that were radio programs - enabling you to listen to your favorite programs on your own time.

I hope all of NPR's programs become available as podcasts as I enjoy listening but don't live on their schedule.

Re:Reality Check (2, Interesting)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611896)

And the best Gem ever!
http://www.cartalk.com/Radio/Show/ [cartalk.com]
Car Talk is available through podcast.. Fad?

Re:Reality Check (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611928)

Nevermind they want you to PAY for it. :P I might pay something, but they want 14.95 a month.

Re:Reality Check (5, Funny)

c (8461) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611791)

Finally, somebody with a little common sense!


Yeah, and I'm still in shock. I mean, a Slashdot editor with common sense? Isn't that one of the signs of the Apocalypse?


c.

Re:Reality Check (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611903)

Am I the onlyone who read this and initially thought something along the lines of "what does Glenn Danzig have to do with Pi"?

Re:Reality Check (3, Interesting)

Billy the Mountain (225541) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611865)

I'm not so dimissive. I think podcasting, even in it's current state, is cool. Just think how good it will be when some good content sources come on line. Personally, I find it a great antidote to a long commute. I've even considered developing my own podcasts teaching Perl, although I must admit it's pretty challenging thinking up useful content considering podcasts are all audio.

Re:Reality Check (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611877)

LP is commonly used in the design of electronic circuits and filters - so it affected the development of just about anything with a battery or a power cord.

second post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611628)

podcasting rools

That's all well and goo, but . . . (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611636)

When are Apple going to incorporate a decent updater to the iTunes database for its player?

How hard is it to write a process that looks for updates to the music collection on the hard drive?

Indeed, when will it provide a decent enqueue system?

There are so many things missing from iTunes to prevent me making the switch from Foobar/Winamp.

It's almost as if Apple only care about its iTunes music store rather than its player

Re:That's all well and goo, but . . . (1)

VxJasonxV (792809) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611654)

Yet another reason why iTunes is great and all, but I dislike it immensely as a player.
<3 Foobar (at work) and XMMS (at home).

Re:That's all well and goo, but . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611879)

Now this is why I read Slashdot - where else can you get such a diverse range of people, and pick up wonderful little tidbits like the true story behind that wonderful legend about solving unsolved problems? Sure, it's available on Snopes for you to find if you know what you're looking for, but asking the right question is often a lot harder than the answer, as best illustrated bythe Hitch Hiker's guide: Meaning of life=42, Question=???. (Hey, perhaps if they'd put that up on the board, he might have been able to solve that as well!)

Kinda stupid Ipod/Itunes question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611816)

If I got an ipod, would I need to use ITunes? Or can you simply plug in the ipod, and it works basically as another drive?

Thanks!

Re:Kinda stupid Ipod/Itunes question (2, Interesting)

Chicane-UK (455253) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611894)

There are other products which can support the iPod, depending on the OS you use. Not sure on the Mac but with regards Windows:

* With the normal iPods, there are various freeware apps including a good plugin for Winamp that let you control / update the iPod. Link for that here [winamp.com] .

* With the iPod shuffle, you can download a small freeware app which allows you to just drag and drop MP3 / AAC files onto the player and run the app to rebuild the database on it - nice and easy :) Link for that here [sourceforge.net] .

So no real need for iTunes unless you want to buy / convert music.

Re:That's all well and goo, but . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611821)

You mean copy music from the iPod to a computer? Not gonna happen for many many reasons. Don't Steal Music, remember?

How did new music get to your drive without a) ripping from CD or b) buying from the iTunes store? Limewire, you say? Hmmm. Or did you stea^H^H^H^Hcopy it directly off someone else's disk?

Party shuffle is the best enqueuer I've seen, do you know of a better one?

Re:That's all well and goo, but . . . (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611912)

What?!?

New music got to my hard drive via:-

1. As you say, ripping from a CD from my collection (but not using iTunes, its ripper is quite poor).

2. By using another legitimate music store i.e. Napster/Yahoo/etc.

3. By myself or a friend actually making some tracks

4. By downloading some perfectly legally free music tracks

And party shuffle, a decent enqueue system? Seriously?

The only thing I would call that heap of shit is a mess of a random playlist, NOT in any way, shape or form a vaguely useable enqueue system.

Maybe not. (5, Insightful)

broller (74249) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611638)

the breathy overstatement of how it will change out lives is a wee bit overdone

Sure. They said the same thing about the common users being able to create their own web sites. Yeah, there's a lot of noise, but the few quality content providers more than make up for it.

Re:Maybe not. (1)

shaitand (626655) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611683)

common users could always make webpages, html is extremely simple. Unless you mean visual editors, I don't believe I have ever seen worthwhile content produced in a visual editor.

Re:Maybe not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611743)

Really? How many choices of hosting did my grandma have 15 years ago? There was a point when the internet publishing was limited only to the elite in the universities, or major technology companies. Now, anyone with $5 can buy a year's worth of web hosting and publish whatever they want on their own site.

Re:Maybe not. (1)

outZider (165286) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611789)

You'd be surprised at how many places use products like Dreamweaver and GoLive on a daily basis as part of their workflow. At my last employer, us developers used our tools, and the front end people used Dreamweaver. It supported our templating systems, and they got their work done.

Re:Maybe not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611845)

Incidentally, the Simplex method -- unlike differential calculus-based methods for more general problems like the Kuhn-Tucker method -- is quite programmable on a computer, and quite efficient.

The Simplex method can be combined with Kuhn-Tucker conditions and a few small tweaks to solve quadratic problems. This is know as Quadratic Programming (QP).

Quadratic Programming is used in solving portfolio optimisation problems, a mathematical way to ensure a portfolio of risky assets are diversified.

Re:Maybe not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611873)

Since neither link indicated that Mr. Dantzig had actually died, here is a link to the San Jose Mercury News article [mercurynews.com] on him.

Four Apple Articles in a Row? (3, Funny)

ThatsNotFunny (775189) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611639)

Is that some sort of record, Slashdot editors?

Re:Four Apple Articles in a Row? (1)

ZephyrXero (750822) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611734)

Maybe they should give it its own section...waittt....

Re:Four Apple Articles in a Row? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611806)

Not if they use AAC/16kbit mono.

#1, that codec and that bit rate sound absolutely fantastic considering the available bandwidth.

#2, an hour long program is only about 8mb in size, so it will only take about 10 mins. to download on a dialup.

Of course, it would limit the audience to only those players that already supported the MP4-Audio/AAC OPEN format.

To get an equivalent sounding MP3 you'll need to encode at 32kbps which will more than double the file size.

But, since I already own an iPod, I guess it's not a problem for me. ;-)

Re:Four Apple Articles in a Row? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611871)

"who turned in solutions for what he had taken to be a homework assignment, only to find out they had been posted as examples of what were suspected to be unsolvable problems."

If he was so smart, why did he make the mistake of thinking it was homework?


Podcasting info (3, Informative)

crunk (844923) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611640)

Wikipedia article here [wikipedia.org]

Re:Podcasting info (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611663)

Everyone here knows how to look up shit on the internet you fucking dumbass.

Re:Podcasting info (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611677)

Could you tell me, how it is relevant to post to a wikipedia article on what podcasting is, in the sense that, this is Slashdot and an article about iTunes/iPod/mp3s and you wouldnt know what podcasting is? Whats the likelihood in that?

Re:Podcasting info (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611721)

> Could you tell me, how it is relevant to post to a wikipedia article on what podcasting is, in the sense that, this is Slashdot and an article about iTunes/iPod/mp3s and you wouldnt know what podcasting is? Whats the likelihood in that?

High: //apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=150416&cid=12 611699 [slashdot.org]

Re:Podcasting info (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611869)

"examples of what were suspected to be unsolvable problems" No big deal, I do unsolvable homework problems all the time.

Editor editorials (-1, Troll)

lambent (234167) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611645)

Are the editors supposed to editorialize in article write-ups? This seems to be a very recent phenomenon.

And no sir, I don't like it.

As for podcasting ... I'd've thought that Apple would be all over anything that could possibly increase the usefulness of your iPod and ITMS bundle.

iTMS 4.9: now YOU can podcast! and it washes your dog! and cleans your toilet! etc etc.

It's an enabler... (3, Interesting)

eyegor (148503) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611656)

Given that Rush Limbaugh (love him or loathe him) is going to be making his broadcast available via podcast, you could change iTunes to allow downloading DRMed podcasts on a pay-per-download or a subscription basis either through the iTunes store or a third-party source.

Re:It's an enabler... (0)

NardofDoom (821951) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611799)

For the Rush loathers out there, Air America [airamericaplace.com] has commercial-free podcasts available.

Re:It's an enabler... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611883)

There are way too many applications to list here. Ill give you an example though. Say you are a company that produces Chairs and Tables. You sell chairs for $10 and tables for $20. It costs you 5 units of wood to make a chair and 8 units of wood to make a table. It costs you 2 units of labour to make a chair and 3 units of labour to make a table.

Now say you have a certain amount of wood and labour to "spend", how much of each product should you produce to max yield, min waste, min cost, max profit...All different objectives give different answers.

This is a simple example that can be solved without simplex but if you were to scale it up to 1000 products with 3000 resources to be split, it can still be solved with the simplex algorithm.

I have written my own simplex solver and they are tricky but the basic algorithm is elegant.

Of course, the example I gave above is only one and there are many applications in the area of Operations Research (thats not my field btw).

Sure beats the dross on airwaves... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611661)

Sure Podcasting may not 'change the world', but after sampling shows for a few weeks I've come up with three or four regulars that beat the pants off any of the drivel that I can find on the airwaves. These shows keep me eagerly waiting for new installments every day.

The 'long tail' of shows almost ensures that there is something out there of interest to everyone. And if I wasn't rushing out to buy an mp3 player before, I sure am looking forward to getting one now so I can fill my hour and a half commute each day by programming my own 'radio station'... commercial-free and chock full of content that totally appeals to me.

Re:Sure beats the dross on airwaves... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611863)

I am actually doing part of my PhD on Linear Programming and the Simplex method. This guy was very smart to come up with what he did!

The real world application that the simplex method has is HUGE. I think he has made everyones life a little bit better although most people wouldnt realise it.

Change out lives? (1, Funny)

hussar (87373) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611695)

Change out lives?

I'm more worried about changing out the batteries.

Re:Change out lives? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611841)

Here's a FAQ: http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/otc/Guide/faq/linear-p rogramming-faq.html [anl.gov]

What is most interesting about LP is not that it is just a method of finding the solution to a problem, but that it extends in range over many diverse fields from (obviously) computer programming to fields such as economics and even business planning.

Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (0, Flamebait)

ZephyrXero (750822) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611697)

When I see a headline that reads "iTunes to use a DRM free, open format" then maybe I'll give half a sh*t :P

Re:Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611772)

When you write something other than yet another "I hates teh Apple" post maybe we'll give half a shit.

Re:Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611797)

iTunes DOES use a DRM free format; it's called MP3. Or perhaps you were thinking about iTMS instead...

Re:Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (5, Funny)

GaryPatterson (852699) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611836)

"iTunes to Drop DRM"

In related news, the entire music industry has dropped support for Apple's iTunes Music Store and is suing Apple for breach of contract, loss of revenue and numerous copyright violations.

Consumers wishing refunds on their now almost useless iPods were advised by Apple store and helpline staff "Shit no! We need every cent for the court battles now! If we win, you'll get you music back, but until then we need to push this case through and put the business on the line because it's a principle dear to a few hundred geeks on Slashdot!"

The popular Slashdot website commented cryptically today "Less space than a Nomad. No FM. Lame." A few posters on the website criticised Apple for not going far enough.

One poster commented: "They should storm the citadel of the star-star-AA. Maybe with leet swords of righteousness plus seventeen, you know, for EverQuest, or maybe with those cool guns you get on Halo-2, but not the original Halo because that was just crap. The ending was better though, so YMMV. That'd be so cool, and then they'd be teh godz. I still wouldn't buy their shit though. It's not free enough for me."

Business Analysts changed the rating of Apple's stock from "buy" to "get the hell out of there! Just run and don't look back for the love of God!" This move is expected to cause Apple stock to suffer.

Darl McBride, CEO of the foundering SCO corporation has offered to step in to Apple's CEO role and bring the company back to health. "I believe that Apple can still make a case that Microsoft stole their UI, and by charging every Windows owner on Earth a simple, one-off $299 fee, we'll recoup those losses."

Noted software tycoon Bill Gates was unavailable for comment, as he was admitted to hospital suffering convulsions caused by fits of continuous hysterical laughter.

Re:Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611893)

Linear programming was among the first "real" applications of digital computers. I saw Dantzig give a talk about it at an INFORMS conference back in the 1980s.

It seems that in a visit to Von Neumann in 1947 he described LP and the simplex method a bit. (See http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/chapters/i7802.ht ml [princeton.edu] .) It seems that Von Neumann understood everything pretty much immediately, and even derived the dual solution to LP in the first sitting.

I suppose we all know what Von Neumann did next ...

Re:Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611839)

"Linear programming" (as well as "mathematical programming", "convex programming", etc.) has little to do with computer programming. It's about finding the solution to problems like maximize f(x) subject to restrictions r1(x)=0 .. rn(x)=0, r1(x)>0... rn(x)>0.

Incidentally, the Simplex method -- unlike differential calculus-based methods for more general problems like the Kuhn-Tucker method -- is quite programmable on a computer, and quite efficient.


Re:Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (1)

chris234 (59958) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611851)

It uses mp3s, and you can also use other formats like Ogg Vorbis. http://www.illadvised.com/~jordy/ [illadvised.com] Open enough?

Re:Wish it read "iTunes to use open formats" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611888)

It's times like these we need a moderation option of "-1, crack baby".

This is huge (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611699)

Yep. This is huge. Or at least, I think so.

The only trouble is that I have NO idea what podcasting is. Reading the article didn''t clued me in. Googling got me to: http://www.podcast.net/ [podcast.net] , a very interesting web site, that does its best to NOT clue people in about podcasting. Of course wikipedia will tell me, but, hell, how difficult is it to put a single line in the /. post to clue readers in ?

Re:This is huge (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611740)

how hard is a google search for "What is podcasting" , which gives you the wikipedia entry as the second result.

Why I like PodCasting (3, Insightful)

Your_Mom (94238) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611702)

Podcasting makes my life easier. I listen to quite few [binrev.com] shows [260.com] , and like other geeks, the way my work hours are soemtimes I completely forget what day it is. I often used to miss a show for a few days before realzing "Hey, it's Friday, OTH came out a few days ago" Podcasting is good because it automagically updates my iPod when the new shows come out.

Although Steve is right in the fact that, for the most part, it's the "Wayne's World" of radio. There are some good shows out there and I do enjoy listening to them.

Re:Why I like PodCasting (1)

frankthechicken (607647) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611777)

In the UK we have to be thankful for the BBC [bbc.co.uk] . and their podcast experiment.

Just wish they would get over this pointless strike at the moment.

Re:Why I like PodCasting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611820)

Q & Q Archive [radio.cbc.ca] hours of interesting stuff.

Re:Why I like PodCasting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611907)

College Mathematics Journal, 1986, 16(4), 292-314

Re:Why I like PodCasting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611833)

At least his teachers knew he wasn't cheating.

R.I.P., Dude.

Re:Why I like PodCasting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611933)

Simplex is also known as Operational Research, as early versions were used during military conflicts as a way to produce the optimum use of planes/ships/men in a combat zone, allowing for time spent away from the front-line.


The military value of Simplex was simple. Resources cost money. Lots of money. You also, generally, don't have that many of them. You desperately need to get them to as many missions as possible in the shortest time (allowing for flight times to and from zones, refuelling, etc), allowing for repairs and replacements.


You've also got to find the optimum distribution of fuel, weapons, bases, etc. as the further these places are from where they need to be, the greater the risks (travel is dangerous) and the greater the delays.


Simplex is not "ideal" for a problem of this complexity, but it does a hell of a lot better than guesswork and pencil & paper solutions on the back of an envelope, which is what the British War Office was often reduced to in World War II. They had RADAR, which helped for defence, but offense was substantially more problematic.


technology changes lives .. (2, Insightful)

torpor (458) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611724)

but the breathy overstatement of how it will change out lives is a wee bit overdone./i.

i dunno, since the personal broadcast media revolution came along, i no longer feed off the general concencus being mass-produed for the hive-mind by "Big Media" .. in fact, i hardly pay much attention to "Big Media" and all their benevolent sponsors, at all, any more .. they're not making money off my time, which is being spent listening to and enjoying/paying-for content that has been made by people who are much, much, much closer to me and my mores, as a fan, than "Clear Channel" arer ...

laders like jobs ridiculing this movement through generalities and slures really only shows that yes, in fact, putting mass-media broadcast tools in the hands of The People, instead of it being the exclusive domain of the vested interest/vaulted few, is a good thing ..

Re:technology changes lives .. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611817)

Yet Another Waist of the Net

Personally I thought OSDN was the waist, and Slashdot was the anus. Google is, of course, the nipples.

Re:technology changes lives .. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611837)

While I'm sure these are terrific shows, it seems a shame that the for the pilot they chose "geek" shows. It's like the profiled the "kind of people who might manage this tricky technology", narrowly profiled their interests, and gave them something targeted to that stereotype.

I love the way the BBC's trial is wide-ranging in the scope of its programming: there's sport, film review, current affairs, history, documentary, as well as science and technology.

By podcasting "In Our Time" (sample topic: Imperialism and Archaeology), the BBC potentially brings tech geeks to history, and history geeks to technology, broadening everyone's horizons.

Re:technology changes lives .. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611930)

Well, he was married, so he must have solved that problem. Unfortunately he did not elect to share the proof publicly. :)

where did I read this story before? (1)

boomerny (670029) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611728)

Oh yeah, a few hours ago on engadget.com, along with the previous story about Apple and Intel. Looks like the submitter is just reposting headlines from other sites.

Re:where did I read this story before? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611802)

Incidentally CBC does not advertise itself or play adverts on their tv/radio channels. They are fully subsidised by the Canadian government and don't give a toss whether anyone listens to their broadcasts or not.

??? The CBC televsion channel that I receive (here in the outskirts of Outer Southern Ontario. Maybe some pirates are manipulating with the signal) is jam packed with as much advertising as any other channel. The CBC most certainly does give a toss whether they have viewers, as the government continually talks about kicking them off the teat.

The subsidization of the CBC isn't to provide a freebie channel, but to allow them to pursue risky and likely unprofitable exercises of Canadiana (e.g. historical shows), but overall the CBC does strive to be sustaining.

Re:where did I read this story before? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611831)

How much more mac does there need to be in the world?

Podcasting requires neither Mac, iTunes nor iPod.

Any MP3 player will do, and it's in the RSS that the magic lies.

There are key differences between podcasting and archival:

(1) A podcast is not necessarily kept available long term.
(2) A podcast is meant to "magically" appear on your portable MP3 player as part of your routine syncing/charging activity.

I don't like the name either -- it wrongly implies reliance on an iPod, and gives Apple free marketing -- but I think we're pretty much stuck with it now.

HOWTO: Neutral point of view (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611764)

NEWSFLASH (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611876)

Slashdot is NOT A JOURNALISTIC SITE!

This is a tech site, BY nerds FOR nerds. If you say that nerds should have a "neutral" point of view on a tech issue, then you're living in fantasyland. All nerds have a point of view, and the editors do too. This is a way that they can express that. We don't have to take what they say as the gospel truth. This is a discussion, not an effort to set the truth down in stone.

If you want journalism, go to nytimes or something (although it's rather hard to find good journalism _anywhere_ these days).

Re:HOWTO: Neutral point of view (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611915)

Well folks, I'm an accountant. You can have all the fun you want about having an accountant here, but that's the way it is. In Argentina, where I come from, that was the best way to land a management position in no time, which I'm still waiting for.

All that aside, I love technology in all its forms, just in case.

Studying my 4th year, we've been teached LP, as a way to solve transport route problems, and minimum stock estimates, optimizing resources and stuff, in an assignment called "Operations Research".

I hope one of my fellow students will read this, but I really doubt an graduate from Facultad de Ciencias Economicas - Universidad Nacional de Cordoba would read /.

We always dreamed about finding the damn mf that invented the simplex method, but the net was far from being an accesible thing those days, so now that I find out about Dantzig, I'm kinda sad. There was a time when I would have cursed his family and chased him if he was within reach, but now I pay him honors, as one of many bright minds that go by unnoticed for students and developing minds all over the world.

My respect


podcasting as timeshifting (5, Interesting)

ObjetDart (700355) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611768)

While I agree it's not going to fundamentally change our lives, podcasting *has* fundamentally changed the way I listen to radio. By which I mean, it allows me to timeshift internet radio (there's basically no good FM radio where I live.)

I get most of my new music by listening to KCRW (http://www.kcrw.org/online/ [kcrw.org] ). Since they are on the west coast and I'm on the east coast, a lot of their music shows are at inconvenient times for me. So, I wrote a little program that downloads the shows I like (they broadcast in MP3 format), and then I can copy them to my mp3 player and listen to the show whenever and wherever I like. This has allowed me to go from listening to KCRW only occasionally to catching every single one of my favorite programs.

Re:podcasting as timeshifting (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611914)

Actually, no, yours is not the only school. I ran up against that kind of mindset many times in England and eventually learned to "dumb down" my thinking for the benefit of the school/University.


I can remember all kinds of arguments and debates I did have, before then, over such things as NP-Complete problems (as related to network topologies), and the like. Although I did not prove NP-Complete (if I had, you'd be reading ABOUT be, not from me), I believe that this is a solvable problem and that I gained at least some insight into the perceptions that underly why it is such a difficult challenge.


The difference between me and George Dantzig? About the same as between be and Neanderthal Man. Neanderthals had the capacity to do a great deal of creative thought, lateral thinking, etc. They didn't, not because they couldn't, but because they never took the steps it would have required.


Likewise, I may very well have the mental capacity to solve all sorts of complex, abstract problems. I've an IQ of 148, my range of knowledge in science and technology is extensive, but I've never really put that intelligence to the kind of use that it is theoretically capable of.


George Dantzig did. THAT, and nothing else, is what makes him the genius and me the Slashdot reader. Which is all credit to him. It is very tough to overcome real or imagined social conditioning that says that we should all be dumb and unthinking, and whilst I don't easily give into that, the difference is that George Dantzig clearly did not give in at all, but rather ignored it completely.


Unsolvable? Hah, mere homework.


Y'know, it wouldn't surprise me if schools expected students to have that kind of attitude, rather than one of "if the examiner is in a bad mood, we'll fail anyway, so we might as well not put in any more effort than we need to, to scrape by", that schools would produce such minds as a matter of course.


"Genius" is not really that rare of a thing for biological reasons. It is rare because we tell the next generation that it is rare. The only two groups who really succeed in life are those who are damn certain they're geniuses and work damn hard to prove it, or who drop out enough not to be affected by such banality.


All it should really take, to produce an entire nation of Einsteins and Dantzigs is to encourage even the briefest glimmer or the slightest spark of thought.


To me, the greatest honor we can give the greatest minds of all time is to allow all the other great minds to be as great as they want to be, rather than trampling them down into the mud as though creative thought were somehow dirty and disgusting, if it isn't in a different century and preferably a different country as well.


Wayne's World for radio... (3, Funny)

chill (34294) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611773)

Steve has just never gotten over the Video Toaster being for the Amiga and not the Mac.

Wayne's World, Perhaps, But.. (4, Interesting)

Mean_Nishka (543399) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611798)

The easier it gets to download podcasting content, the more likely people will actually listen to it. Including this functionality in iTunes will expand the audience and make it easier for average Joe computer user to sample of the content.

It's only a matter of time before paid providers will see the value of this. Vidcasts (not podcasts) might be the killer app, but the media distribution has to begin somewhere :).

Re:Wayne's World, Perhaps, But.. (1)

GaryPatterson (852699) | more than 9 years ago | (#12611864)

Wayne's World, eh?

So, the iPod will 'suck' music from your computer, and now it can 'blow' music out to other users?

Just like the 'Suck Cut' (patent very pending), the iPod will soon be able to truly suck and blow.

Re:Wayne's World, Perhaps, But.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611899)

Translation for today's college students. :-)

Link [gizoogle.com]

podcasting = mp3 'name branding' imo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12611855)

People have been distributing mp3 files online for a looong time now, and just because there's a new client for downloading them into a relatively new type of player (hardware instead of the player in your computer) is not as revolutionary as all that.

I know this isn't the rail-against-podcasting thread, but I feel like so many people are buying into the hype. This process is basically giving a brand name to the creation of mp3 files.

I've subscribed to tons of feeds from different people, and the signal to noise ratio is about what you'd expect on most irc channels. People reading headlines from other sites, not offering anything new, being generally annoying and all that.

It's like reality radio for losers, but there are some great feeds, as was mentioned before (IT convo is #1 IMO).

Ok back to listening to DSC.

(Sorry for poisting anon, won't let me login.)
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