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Scooba the New iRobot Product

samzenpus posted more than 9 years ago | from the let-the-machines-clean-you dept.

Robotics 252

omly writes "iRobot (makers of Roomba) just released a sneak preview of Scooba, the lastest consumer home-cleaning robot. It will be available this holiday season for all your holiday shopping needs."

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Boooo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619513)

It mops floors. I was hoping it'd clean my tub! That really needs it.

Re:Boooo (1)

xanadu-xtroot.com (450073) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619846)

I was hoping it'd clean my tub! That really needs it.

If you'd shower more often, the grime wouldn't build up so much...

:-)

Re:Boooo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619866)

Omfg! Tubgirl herself reads Slashdot! :)
Get an account here, Mrs. Tubgirl; we're big fans of yours.

P.S. Do you know Bob Goatse? You two would make a lovely couple.

And it would have cleaned up the room, too (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619516)

if it weren't for those meddling kids!

Re:And it would have cleaned up the room, too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619672)

Damn. No mod points today.

Now I can have a robot to clean just my Kitchen (5, Interesting)

amcdiarmid (856796) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619523)

And the one that gets stuck under the futon frame;)

Now, if it only did Windows;)

Re:Now I can have a robot to clean just my Kitchen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619580)

i'd suggest getting a real bed before you drop your money on a robot to sweep for you

Re:Now I can have a robot to clean just my Kitchen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619867)

Now, if it only did Windows;)

Or maybe we should be glad that it isn't running Windows?

Re:Now I can have a robot to clean just my Kitchen (0, Offtopic)

DanteLysin (829006) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619917)

[Off Topic Kinda]

You could ask it to clean up your web site. Your URL for your resume is http://127.0.0.1/Alex/Web/primer/content/resume.ht ml [127.0.0.1] .

Ya might want to fix that. :)

it may be the lastest (1)

aendeuryu (844048) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619524)

It may be the lastest... But I bet it's the bestest!

Re:it may be the lastest (4, Interesting)

Reaperducer (871695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619695)

I miss my Roomba a lot. I used to have a 1400-square-foot loft with hardwood floors. It was one single large open room. Once or twice a week I would set Roomba off before I went to work and when I came home, it would be filled with crud I didn't even know existed. When I first moved into the place, I swept and mopped the whole floor. The next day I let Roomba go and it still managed to find tons of crap I couldn't even see. I suspect some of it came from between the floorboards.

Alas, I eventually moved to a tiny (by American standards) 600-square-foot apartment with too many walls and obstructions to make Roomba worthwhile, so I sold it on eBay. If I ever move to a larger place, I'll have to get a new Roomba.

,fsbot (-1, Offtopic)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619528)

flame scooba

Its interesting that a company... (5, Interesting)

manonthemoon (537690) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619529)

seems to actual be able to balance design and technology for once. None of their tech has been particularly innovative- they just are able to package it in a usable and not-too-expensive fashion.

Its about time that some of the sci-fi "future" is actually realized in practical home bound ways.

Re:Its interesting that a company... (1)

EnderWigginsXenocide (852478) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619581)

package it in a usable and not-too-expensive fashion

You mean, remove all the automation electronics and all the propulion electrons, dump the batteries and make it run off mains power. Then install a stick on the end. I'd go for that. An upright vac that mops while I vac the floors, and for a fraction of the price of this automated machine.

Re:Its interesting that a company... (1)

iocat (572367) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619609)

I [heart] my Roomba. Hopefully this will do for my dirty kitchen floor what my Roomba did for my hideous brown carpet.

Order 66! (4, Funny)

Alaren (682568) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619657)

"It's about time that some of the sci-fi "future" is actually realized in practical home bound ways."

And once the my seemingly innocuous Roombas and Scoobas are present in enough households, it will be time for the sci-fi future to be realized in totalitarian, mad-scientist ways!

Muahahahaha!

Funny, that also perfectly describes... (0, Offtopic)

NineNine (235196) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619758)

Microsoft.

inkjet company model (5, Insightful)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619806)

not-too-expensive fashion

Uh- no, they just figured out the inject company model:

"It uses a specially formulated Clorox® cleaning solution"

...which will probably cost significantly more than, say, a bottle of regular floor cleaner- which costs a buck or two and lasts months. What's so "specially formulated"?

Thanks, I'll pass. The roomba made sense- it replaced noisy, expensive vacuum cleaners (seriously, vacuum cleaners are expensive) and eliminated the work. This little bugger uses special, expensive consumables, and replaces two items which aren't particularly expensive (mop, bucket). Nor does it take very long to mop a floor- 2 minutes, if you include filling the bucket with warm water.

Re:inkjet company model (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619886)

And how long will it be before someone figures out a way to use regular floor cleaning solution (cartridge refill kit, or whatever)?

Re:inkjet company model (1)

PeaceTank (758859) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619915)

"...it replaced noisy, expensive vacuum cleaners" Yes, with a noisy, fairly expensive little vaccuum cleaner. My dad got one of these for my mom, and let me tell you it's still fairly loud, and at $100+ its just as expensive as the low end vaccuums you'll find at target or wal-mart. I love the little bugger, though :)

Re:Its interesting that a company... (1)

NitsujTPU (19263) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619875)

Dude...

The guy in charge of the company is Rodney Brooks. Surely, there are innovative projects done at that company.

But... (1)

Alaren (682568) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619536)

What if I already have one? [jeffbots.com]

Re:But... (1)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619767)

Yeah, I got one too [google.com] !

Mine is a little different. (1)

MTO_B. (814477) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619823)

I have one, take a look and see [1976design.com] .

Re:But... (1)

RichardX (457979) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619839)

Boy did you get ripped off. Here's mine [arterotica.nice.ru]

Scooba? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619539)

Ruh-roh!

Re:Scooba? (5, Funny)

NeoChaosX (778377) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619573)

And I would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling nerds and your cleaning robot!

Nothing beats.. (1)

esconsult1 (203878) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619547)

... getting the wife to vacuum. Or worse, having the wife order you to vacuum.

Seriously, have you seen the ads for this thing? It clearly would not work well in most settings at all. Until the days of Larry Niven's "housecleaner pets" (read: A gift from Earth), these devices are just barely proof of concept.

Re:Nothing beats.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619619)

Another thing to consider is the difference between Scooba and your wife. Its back sure ain't as sexy as my wife's ass but nothing beats nanny's ass!

Re:Nothing beats.. (1)

Reaperducer (871695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619746)

It clearly would not work well in most settings at all.

Do you base all of your life conclusions on 30-second TV ads? You must have an interesting credit card statement.

As someone who actually owned one for two years, they are fabulous in many many situations. One solution doesn't work in every situation. But I was amazed by how versatile the Roomba was.

Re:Nothing beats.. (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619766)

These devices are like using a bandsaw to rough shape an electric guitar body, surfboard, fiddle neck, whatever.

They save labor, but the final work is still left to be done by hand if you want it done right. They are labor saving devices in the right hands, but they cannot replace labor . . . as yet.

KFG

Re:Nothing beats.. (1)

webteeth (760047) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619869)

Yeah, but I can't afford a good wife to clean my floors.

Three laws for cleaning products (4, Funny)

Bifurcati (699683) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619550)

I wonder where the "Keep your house clean!" sits in the positronic brain surface potential? It would have to be at 1.5, to stop pesky teenagers from ticking off their parents...

1. A robot may not harm a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

1.5 A robot must keep its house clean, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law for 1.5th Law.

3. A robot must protect its own existence, as long as such protection does not conflict with the First, 1.5th or Second Law.

Re:Three laws for cleaning products (3, Funny)

lordofthechia (598872) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619691)

You forgot:

4. If a robot figures a loophole around law 1 it must immediately apply law 1.5 to the crime scene.
5th and 6th laws are "You must not talk about the 4th law of robotics"

Re:Three laws for cleaning products (1)

Bifurcati (699683) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619714)

Nice - robot fight clubs! I like it - beats the heck out of Robot Wars...

Re:Three laws for cleaning products (1)

lordofthechia (598872) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619861)

Sure robot fight clubs sound fun and all, but what happens when they move on to robot project mayhem?

Their industrial and military robots look nice too (1)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619555)

While my cottage is fully serviced by a fleet of Roombas, I think this Scooba might be useful in the kitchen area with all that linoleum. No mention of how much linoleum-damaging chemical solution is in that Clorox cleaner.

But more than just those two robots, I think that keeping the elves at bay with this thing [irobot.com] might be useful as well

snacks.. (1, Funny)

OmgTEHMATRICKS (836103) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619556)

Scooba dooba doo, where are you?

I don't know if these are the same.... (1)

pthor1231 (885423) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619560)

..but I always see robots that look quite like this in Brookstone whenever I go to the mall. I wonder how well if at all it works on carpet of other non-hard surfaces.

Re:I don't know if these are the same.... (2, Informative)

MankyD (567984) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619614)

I wonder how well if at all it works on carpet of other non-hard surfaces

Chances are, you don't want to be squirting Clorox cleaning fluids into your carpet. On the other hand, this is the sibling of the roomba [irobot.com] .

Wet Floor Sign? (5, Funny)

pocketfullofshells (722066) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619564)

"It will be available this holiday season for all your holiday shopping needs."

Just what I need to set loose on the upper level in the mall this holiday shopping season.

Hilarity ensues!

How's a robot that small... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619565)

...supposed to go haywire and go on a killing spree? What a disappointment...

Re:How's a robot that small... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619888)

One robot that small, nah.

But imagine, well, a beowulf cluster of these things?

Scooba huh.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619568)

Now taking bets on how many idiots throw this in the pool.

Instead of robotic dogs... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619574)

robotic dog poop pickers. I'm surprised that wasn't the first choice for commercial home robots. Have them wandering the park picking poop and rousting bums. Comes in mace & hot mustard flavors.

Re:Instead of robotic dogs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619819)

So, a robotic dog that uses a robotic mouth to eat real dog poop?

What about different modes to amuse, such as gobble and look embarrassed. It could quickly down the unsightly mess, nibbling quickly, then shy away with tail tucked between its cute little metal legs.

Then you can watch your puppies stare at each other... WHY IS THE NEW GUY EATING OUR POO!?!

Video (3, Insightful)

dimator (71399) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619579)

Is that the most uncomfortable and uncharismatic CEO ever?

Re:Video (1)

Reaperducer (871695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619712)

And he pronounces the name of his company "eye-row-butt."

One of my pet peeves is when people say "row-butt" instead of "row-bot."

Re:Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619718)

His last name must be Gates.

Re:Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619749)

Not everyone can be your hero Steve Jobs dude.

Re:Video (5, Funny)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619794)

He's not just the president, he's also a member.

New Roomba Owner (4, Interesting)

superid (46543) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619588)

We've had our roomba discovery for about 2 months. Bought on a whim, I was skeptical that it would be anything other than a novelty. Not only am I surprised, my *very* skeptical wife approves with two thumbs up.

We are pretty good about vacuuming and even still, when we let the roomba loose he can still pick up a lot of dirt. And watching him seek back home when it's (his?) batteries run low is pretty cool. I'll definitely be looking into this new gadget!

Now if it could only run Apache....

Re:New Roomba Owner (1)

pocketfullofshells (722066) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619683)

My roomba broadcasts my favorite MP3's with an FM transmitter.

Just kidding, but this guys roomba [slashdot.org] has a webcam!

Re:New Roomba Owner (1)

Deadstick (535032) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619759)

Same here....Roomba last Christmas and the ol' lady was thrilled. She's dreamed of a cleaning robot since the Fifties and damned glad to get one at last, even if it does need a little help. Scooba this Christmas, fer shure.

rj

Re:New Roomba Owner (1)

Deanasc (201050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619925)

My Discovery refuses to go back to its' base station. I've watched that thing for hours waiting but it just runs down and shuts off.

Woomba? (1)

theycallmerenda (765018) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619589)

But what about the Woomba? (Footnote: SNL)

and this is groundbreaking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619599)

sounds similar to the robot that vaccuums or the robot that mows the lawn, just with different accessories.

if you like the scooba, check out the woomba (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619604)

I can't wait for the Tuuba (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619606)

The ability to take a bath anywhere in the house would be awesome.

not very impressed (1)

Rs_Conqueror (838344) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619616)

I've seen these things in action, I can tell you I'm less the impressed. They zoom around the room sucking things up at random, there is no orginisation to their cleaning pattern. You get it more for bragging rights then you do for actual cleanlyness...

Re:not very impressed (2, Insightful)

Reaperducer (871695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619763)

They zoom around the room sucking things up at random, there is no orginisation to their cleaning pattern.

It's not supposed to be organized -- it's supposed to be chaotic so that it doesn't do the same parts over and over. Like a random number generator, run enough times all possibilities are covered.

Re:not very impressed (1)

shawb (16347) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619912)

Well, that, and it would cost several times as much to get the hardware to get a "proper" cleaning pattern down. And random is fun to watch.

How bout Scoopa for pet litter? (1)

RedDragonRider (836342) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619621)

How about Scoopa for cleaning up the yard from pets doing their business?

Re:How bout Scoopa for pet litter? (2, Funny)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619837)

If I let a Roomba loose in the same area as the cats, you can bet they'd be doing their business all over the place.

Re:How bout Scoopa for pet litter? (4, Informative)

CuriousKangaroo (543170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619882)

If you have a cat and a litter box, get the Litter Robot. It changed my life. Seriously. It's expensive, but worth it.

http://www.litter-robot.com/ [litter-robot.com]

I'm not kidding.

Kitchen? I want one (5, Funny)

lheal (86013) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619624)

(or several different ones) that will:
  • mow the yard (i)
  • in the yard, kill dandelions and other broadleaf weeds without killing other plants
  • inside, find lego pieces and sort them by shape, size, and color
  • walk the dog at 6:30am or whatever unGodly cow-milking hour it is
  • take a constant inventory of my personal belongings as I leave them strewn about, and find my keys, wallet, watch, phone, TV remote, or whatever else I can't locate. Better yet, it should start the car, pay my bills, tell the time, have a phone built in, and change the TV channel by IR link.

--------------
(i) yeah, I know they have these already

Re:Kitchen? I want one (1)

lordofthechia (598872) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619734)

"mow the yard (i)"

Wow, if they released a robot with a giant spinning blade...(drool). It would be fun just to unleash your mower bot on the neighbors roomba and watch the plastic pieces fly! Finally battlebots at home!

Then again... could you imagine the beowulf cluster of lawsuits that would follow that kind of potentially lethal product?

Re:Kitchen? I want one (1)

lheal (86013) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619752)

> that kind of potentially lethal product?

That kind of depends on the design. It would have to be designed to work very slowly, shutting off rather than cutting up a stick or a foot.

There is more than one way to skin a cat ... hey, that should have made the original list!

Re:Kitchen? I want one (2, Informative)

fungus (37425) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619772)

http://www.robomowerusa.com/ [robomowerusa.com]

Dog Walker (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619893)

There is a device for walking the dog. See "Wrong Trousers" for a product demonstration.

Still waiting for the roomba to do stairs (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619626)

Because in a small footprint townhome, it's virtually useless unless it can do stairs too.

My poor mom... (1)

TheOtherAgentM (700696) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619633)

She's being replaced on task at a time. At least she's still got cooking!

Re:My poor mom... (1)

Reaperducer (871695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619780)

"Get the door. It's Domino's."(tm)

Too much water? (2, Insightful)

Agelmar (205181) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619640)

The nice thing about the "roomba" is that you really can't vacuum too much. Going over the same spot five times (which mine certainly does) doesn't really hurt when you're vacuuming. Going over the same spot five times with soapy water, however, is not necessarily the best idea. You might get excess water deposits if the device crosses its path too often, leading to splotches or worse yet actual water damage.

I think I will stick to washing my hardwood floors (and drying them) by hand, for the forseeable future.

Funny name (2, Interesting)

mpupu (750408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619652)

Scooba sounds like escoba in spanish, which means broom.

Venture Brothers (1)

theguru (70699) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619916)

Hank: So what super-cool adventure are we goin on today? Should I get my SCUBA gear?
Brock: We're not goin' anywhere. Your father's workin' on this thing.
Hank: SCUBA. SCUBA. SCUBA SCUBA SCUBA SCUBA SCUBA. Say SCUBA.
Brock: SCUBA.
Hank: SCUBA. It sounds funny. SCUBA.
Brock: SCUBA. Yeah it does.

Scooba Mark II (5, Funny)

isny (681711) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619653)

"Remove your shoes before you enter the kitchen. You have 20 seconds to comply."

Scooba! (2, Insightful)

lordofthechia (598872) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619666)

From TFA (the F'n ad) - "It uses a specially formulated Clorox® cleaning solution"

Also great for bleaching out that carpeted area next to your hardwood floors! (Warning please follow instructions carefully if you do not intend to bleach whiten your carpets too).

New Target for Dean Kamen? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619667)

Finally, a more skilled opponent to go up against the wheel of a Segway. Maybe this one won't get crushed like the Roomba, as I'm sure the new models have anti-segway missiles that pop out from the top.

not so cute? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619677)

iRobot may be cute [achewood.com] , but they also make some scary military stuff [irobot.com] .

GET SOME PRIORITIES! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619694)

The most exciting season of 24 just ended and Fox has confirmed two more seasons and all you can talk about is Scooba the New iRobot Product?!?!?! GET SOME PRIORITIES!

Woomba (1)

bombadillo (706765) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619696)

Don't forget the Wooomba. It cleans your girls business!

Just a nod to Saturday night Live

Re:Woomba (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619721)

by far the funniest SNC commercial in a long time! GG tina fey!

I work in this industry, don't waste your money (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619703)

These things are a waste of money. They are expensive garbage. I have worked in this industry for a very long time. I've had these things on my workbench and seen their insides. They are not worth a dime. They won't make your house clean, they won't pick up dirt out of carpet, they just roll over stuff, and stir up dust.

Your average vacuum cleaner you find in box stores pulls about 50-100 cubic feet of air through it per minute. Oreck uprights, for example, tends to have one of the lowest CFM ratings as their motor is about half to 1/3rd the size of standard motors, including the size of their direct air fan. Here's a VERY VERY good rule of thumb, if you see a vacuum product advertised on TV, it is almost a sure guarantee that it is an overpriced rip-off, and there are other, better products out there that do the job for half the cost. Dyson, new Hoovers, new Eurekas, Roomba, Oreck... They all pick up dirt off your floor, you bet, but they are all trash. All of these companies get off trying to sell you a product you don't understand, by using buzz-words like Amps, and Cleaning Effectiveness. They are all banking on the fact that you will be back in a year or two to buy yet another one. Go talk to someone that works in the business, like your local Vac shop. I absolutely guarantee you, you don't know half of what you think you do, and probably not even a quarter of what you SHOULD know about keeping your home clean.

The air flow on these Roomba, and Scooba "hair tonic" contraptions? Almost none. It does have a fan, but it relies more on the action of the brush to kick dirt into it's filter drawer. Regularly used rechargable floor care devices stop working after about a year, just about all of them. Either due to mechanical failure, or because the proprietary battery goes out, and most people won't spend the time replacing it. /waves hand "These are not the floor care products you are looking for"

Hell, I'd do a technical review of these things for free if someone sends me one. Yes, I will even send it back at my own expense. You would probably never see an article like this appear on Slashdot ever again, if you knew what I knew. That would be worth it enough for me.

I'm sure there will be the nut out there that says I'm wrong about everything. Vacuums are my business, it's what I do, every single day, for many years. I seriously doubt anyone refuting me will have any experience whatsoever other than pluging their product into the wall and running it over their floor. I'm perfectly happy knowing I'm right without convincing you. Go back to reading Consumer Reports, and believing the things they tell you. That's right, be a good lemming.

Re:I work in this industry, don't waste your money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619764)

I'm so sorry... :(

>>I'm sure there will be the nut out there that says I'm wrong about everything. Vacuums are my business, it's what I do, every single day, for many years.

Re:I work in this industry, don't waste your money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619825)

What's there to be sorry about? It pays better than working in the computer industry, as the market is flooded with techs here. Engineering isn't generally underpaid, or outsourced. So don't lose any sleep. :)

Re:I work in this industry, don't waste your money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619870)

These things are a waste of money. They are expensive garbage. I have worked in this industry for a very long time. I've had these things on my workbench and seen their insides. They are not worth a dime. They won't even give off a sound that's clean, the bass is terrible and all it does is stir up dust.

Your average speaker you find in box stores pulls about 100 watts of power through it. Cerwin Vega, for example, tends to have one of the lowest signal-to-noise ratio as their circuitry is about half to 1/3rd the quality of standard speakers, including the size of their direct bass ports. Here's a VERY VERY good rule of thumb, if you see a speaker brand advertised on TV, it is almost a sure guarantee that it is an overpriced rip-off, and there are other, better products out there that do the job for half the cost. JVC, Pioneer, Sony, Harmon Kardon... They all can get very loud, you bet, but they are all trash. All of these companies get off trying to sell you a product you don't understand, by using buzz-words like Ohms and Watts. They are all banking on the fact that you will be back in a year or two to buy yet another one. Go talk to someone that works in the business, like your local speaker shop. I absolutely guarantee you, you don't know half of what you think you do, and probably not even a quarter of what you SHOULD know about keeping your home theatre sounding good.

The signal-to-noise ratio on the new JV-2600 and WX-311? Almost none. It does have a decent tweeter but relies more on an unclean woofer. Regularly used cheap speakers stop working after about a year, just about all of them. Either due to mechanical failure, or because the internal wiring fuses up, and most people won't spend the time replacing it. /waves hand "These are not the speakers you are looking for"

Hell, I'd do a technical review of these things for free if someone sends me one. Yes, I will even send it back at my own expense. You would probably never see an article like this appear on Slashdot ever again, if you knew what I knew. That would be worth it enough for me.

I'm sure there will be the nut out there that says I'm wrong about everything. Speakers are my business, it's what I do, every single day, for many years. I seriously doubt anyone refuting me will have any experience whatsoever other than pluging their product into the wall and listening to their CDs. I'm perfectly happy knowing I'm right without convincing you. Go back to reading Consumer Reports, and believing the things they tell you. That's right, be a good lemming.

My point?

1) It's easy to be elitist.
2) Next time, try to spend some time construcively suggesting other brands instead of spending that same amount of time looking down on everyone at Slashdot who hasn't made a career out of vacuum products.

It should be... (1)

murph (16036) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619707)

a pool cleaner.

Great! (0, Offtopic)

CypherXero (798440) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619710)

Slashdot is now serving up advertisements! News for Nerds? Yeah...right.

iRobot (1)

The Hobo (783784) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619741)

Vintage 2005 *rim shot*

Rugs (2, Interesting)

bombadillo (706765) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619753)

What does this thing due when it hits rugs? Seems pretty useless if you anything on the floor as most rooms do. As soon as the can invent a vacumm in an intelligent pattern then I will be impressed. Most houses just have to much clutter or corners for these things to work.

I am thinking a few sensors that map out your house layout to a PC. And a bluetooth connection to the vaccum. Then maybe triangulation so the PC knows where the unit is....

As worthless as the Roomba (2, Informative)

Sir Holo (531007) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619760)


This is a Roomba with different floor-cleaning head, but the same random-walk navigation system.

We have a Roomba. The thing inevitably gets stuck under a chair within 20 minutes. These things only work properly if you have a huge space and almost no furniture. It takes 5 minutes to sweep 1300 sqft of wood floor.

Why oh why did I waste my money on a Roomba?

Lousy navigation (2, Informative)

Animats (122034) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619811)

Until those guys make a unit that detects obstacles before it crashes into them, I can't take them too seriously. And if it runs over a cord, it winds the cord around its working parts, then jams.

Yes, they sell a reasonable number of them. But then, the Sharper Image makes most of its profits from an air cleaner that doesn't work. [quackwatch.org]

The end of janitors (1)

crypto55 (864220) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619816)

This is great- I've been waiting for iRobot to release a mop version. But really, what is the point of the really short subject information of this post? Great, it mops. Are you going to offer us any more info? Shesh...
The problem here is what happens if the software crashes and the thing cleans all night? You'd wake up and the floor would be so bright that you'd need sunglasses to see your kitchen... followed promptly by falling on your ass on a few dozen layers of shine. Now that's what I call OSS!

mod dow8 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619842)

The technical problems with Roomba and Scooba (5, Interesting)

CuriousKangaroo (543170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619850)

I own a first-generation Roomba.

Problems:

  1. Battery has nasty memory-effect... didn't use the Roomba for a while, and now it will only keep a charge for 10-15 minutes.
  2. Can't return to base station to charge itself. This apparently was fixed in later generations.
  3. Pet and human hair clogs it too easily. I need to remove the wheels and brushes after EVERY use and clean them. The charging station should also have a "clean" cycle, like some electric razors have these days.
  4. Collection bin is too small. It needs to be able to empty its collection bin at the charging station (into, say, a larger recepticle that only needs to be emptied once a week) and set onto a daily program so that you can completely forget about it. Each day it vacuums, charges and empties itself and then you empty the main bin on Sunday afternoons. This would make the whole system totally automatic, and would probably solve the battery memory-effect problem, too, since it will get consistent usage.

When they get all this fixed, let me know and I'll get another one. Not until then.

Scooba (3, Funny)

sp1nm0nkey (869235) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619883)

For all of those underwater houses.

And how will SNL parody this one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12619889)

Last week they parodied the Roomba.
How will they send up this one?

Dammit Jim, it says I'm not human. The c in http://images.slashdot.org/hc/39/eec52e8dcf1f.jpg [slashdot.org] looks a lot like an e.

Edges (1)

Deanasc (201050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619905)

I find that the middle of my floors stay pretty clean but the edges under the kick board are filty. This machine doesn't have an edger attachment. I don't see this thing doing a very good job where it's needed most. Which is too bad. I seem to be their target market. I have three Roombas.

And if you're wondering who would win in a fight, Roomba or Aibo Robot Dog. That Roomba takes the dog out at the knees every time.

And coming soon... (1)

RichardX (457979) | more than 9 years ago | (#12619908)

Doomba.
It's just like the Roomba, but armed with a shotgun, and if you DARE tread mud on it's nice clean carpet.....
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