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Iomega Patents 850GB DVD Nano-Technology

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago

Data Storage 422

Mike writes "US Patent & Trademark Office recently issued a patent to Iomega Corp. for its work with nano-technology and optical data storage. New technology, called Articulated Optical - DVD will allow 40-100 times more data (upto 850 Gb) to be stored on a DVD with data transfer rates 5-30 times faster than today's DVDs, and at similarly low costs. AO - DVD is a novel technique of encoding data on the surface of a DVD by using reflective nano-structures to encode data in a highly multi-level format."

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A eunuch still sees a use! (-1, Offtopic)

Eunuch (844280) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635391)

Not porn of course. Would be nice to store detailed maps of the thalamus. Transhumanity awaits.

Re:A eunuch still sees a use! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635657)

Can mods please go back into this guys post history, he tries to hijack EVERY thread to have something to do with transhumans.

And while I appreciate he has no balls (literally, check his posts and his name) and that he likes to focus on other things because of this, there is a time and a place for transhumans, and it isn't every post. It's the loony bin. Seriously transhumanists are by and large loonatics who fail to realise that these issues are being dealt with in fiction, bioethics, philosophy, biology, AI research, psychology and related mind disciplines. None of these "transhumanists" even engages with those discourses, they are full of shit.

And personally while I feel sorry for the guy I think he should be modded appropriately, straight to -1. Every time.

Re:A eunuch still sees a use! (1)

Jozer99 (693146) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635681)

Please say this is a firmware upgrade to my $50 DVD+-RV drive.

Cool (4, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635392)

Corporate Data for small buisness on one Disk. Who needs tape anymore

Re:Cool (1)

macaulay805 (823467) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635428)

Corporate Data for small buisness on one Disk.

I don't know about you .. but I wouldn't want all my eggs in one basket.

On a side note, I wonder how scratch resistant these things are ..

Re:Cool (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635444)

Hense you have 2 disks

Re:Cool (2, Insightful)

cafard (666342) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635575)

What about making as many copies as baskets you require then?

Integrity (1)

Eunuch (844280) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635435)

Some stuff is just really important. I'd like a RAID-1 flash array with covered connectors for that.

Re:Cool (1)

alexandreracine (859693) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635488)

At last! I'll be able to insert my entire collection of torrents on half a disk :)

(No, I don't actually have that, its just a joke)

Re:Cool (1)

the_xaqster (877576) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635493)

Depends on the longevity of the media, and any posible legal data-retention regulations. If I work in a business where the goverment mandates keeping data for 5 years or longer, I would choose tape for data archiving, as this has been proven to last that long. I have CD's that I recorded last year that don't work anymore.

Re:Cool (2, Informative)

PenguinBoyDave (806137) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635555)

Tape is Dead. Long Live Tape. CD's and DVD's are dashboard technology. They were designed to fit in your car radio (the CD's anyway). They have no protection from scratches, etc. and a fifty-cent piece of media insn't designed to hold your companies crown jewels. I once sold a backup solution to a company who decided to go with DVD's rather than tape for the cost of the media alone. Three months later someone moving the dvd platter dropped it on the way to the vault. The DVD's that hit the floor and got scratched up was data that was not replaceable. But the time they figured out what they lost it was too late. a Company that had been in business 20 years was out of business because of one mistake and cheap media. I'd feel better putting my data on redundant hard drives or tape than on a DVD.

Re:Cool (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635651)

I think DVDs and CDs are a completely stupid design simply because of this. Why anyone would go from tape or floppy disk, to something as unprotected as a CD is beyond me. Are they ever going to switch to more robust. I know I'd be willing to pay a little extra for media if I didn't feel like one false move could render all my data useless.

Re:Cool (5, Insightful)

gunnk (463227) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635668)

Have you ever dropped a DLT?

Someone over in our Comp Sci department did that a few years ago. It looked okay, though, so it went back on the shelf.

Next time they ran a restore from the tape it destroyed the DLT drive. Unfortunately, they thought the drive was the problem, not the tape, so they stuck the tape in a backup drive... oops.

The example you gave also has a couple of others problems:

1 - No matter what media you use you NEVER rely on one copy as the only copy of your data. If you do, it is NOT a BACKUP.

2 - A DVD out of it's case is easy to scratch up. Of course, magnetic tape has a pretty short lifespan out of its case as well -- the difference is only that the tape goes into the drive CASE AND ALL. When you put your backup tape in a case you are really putting your tape + case into a second protective case. I've actually seen drives that do the same thing for optical disks. It's not a bad idea for critical backups.

Smoking detector (1)

QMO (836285) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635564)

That many buzzwords in the article significantly lowers my confidence in the value of the technology.

DVD's as backup (5, Interesting)

phorm (591458) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635689)

(some of these apply to tape as well)

a) Burn times are a big factor here, sure 850GB is great... but not if it takes almost a day for a backup run. Current DVD burning is fairly fast though... so hopefully we get good speeds (5-30 times faster than today's DVDs sounds promising)

b) If (a) works out well, and discs don't cost a crapload... you can burn multiple DVD's just in case of disc-rot. Store both in good conditions. Media is still subject to reliability, but many a company has relied on tapes as well only to find them demagnetized, etc at restore time (TEST those tapes, people).

c) Storage space could be saved big-time with this, and a multi-disk burner could be fairly easy to setup too

d) Tapes may not rot as easily, but DVD's don't get mad if you post 'em up using hard-drive magnets :-)

Re:Cool (1)

mobilebuddha (713936) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635703)

until you lose that DVD.

Hey (3, Funny)

macaulay805 (823467) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635396)

Hey, thats aboue two VW Beetle's worth of Library of Congresses to the hogs head!!!!

Re:Hey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635688)

old people in south korea don't find that joke funny anymore

Finally! (1, Funny)

Valiss (463641) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635405)

I can fit my pr0n collection onto only 6 DVDs with this new tech! Horray!

Re:Finally! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635726)

Don't forget to encrypt [] it!

That's a problem! .... (2, Funny)

TomDLux (28486) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635407)

I son't HAVE that much prOn!

Re:That's a problem! .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635451) []

Re:That's a problem! .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635482)


neat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635409)


Cool idea....but (1)

theskullboy (738616) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635412)

Why do we need all that space? Has anyone legitamately filled up anything past 120 GB? (and by legit i mean no mp3 storage, bittorrent, so on and so forth)

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635458)

raw, uncompressed audio and video take up lots of space.

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635517)

How is storing songs you ripped from a cd you own not legit?

How is bittorrent not legit?

I have 497 total gigs of storage across 4 drives. I only have 105 gigs free at the moment.

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

Shkuey (609361) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635519)

A full backup of my systems is roughly 1.5 TB, it take 6 250GB tapes that currently cost about fifty bucks a piece.

I would replace that setup with two DVDs in a heartbeat.

And no, I have no mp3s or any other multimedia files on there.

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

0kComputer (872064) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635560)

And no, I have no mp3s or any other multimedia files on there.

you must have one hell of a porn collection :)

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

arootbeer (808234) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635714)

exactly how little do you think these discs (and associated drives) are going to cost? Besides the fact that, if it's REALLY important data, you should be making at least 2 copies, stored separately, etc., etc.

Re:Cool idea....but (2, Interesting)

Soybean47 (885009) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635572)

Man, I remember when my 40 Mb hard drive was sufficient for my needs, including an office suite and several of the latest games at the time. CDs seemed ridiculously huge as a storage medium. Who would possibly need 650Mb on a single disk? That's crazy!

Anyway, my point is, even if we accept your wacky hypothesis that nobody legitimately fills their 120Gb drives these days, it seems obvious that our storage needs will increase in the future. If there isn't any imaginable way to use a disk like this now, there will be soon.

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

composer777 (175489) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635592)

Full machine backups is one legitamate use that I can think of, especially if you have a few computers. Database backups is another use. I am a programmer and an enhusiast user. I have three OS's installed on my hard drive of my desktop, and also back up 3 other computers to this machine using ghost (or dd and netcat for the mac), and multiple image snapshots of each partition in case anything goes wrong. This can take a system that's 80 GB's and easily triple the amount of space that one is using. Add mp3's, a few movies, photos, and games, and yes, you can legitamately use quite a bit of space. I think that it's great that I could now do a weekly snapshot of my entire system, and archive maybe a months worth of snapshots on one DVD. Then I can take this DVD and move it offsite to something like a safety deposit box. Offsite backups is one thing that is missing from my backup strategy, and the reason why is that at this point it is impractical to back up a hard disk to DVD and I haven't budgeted for the extra hard disks necessary to make this practical.

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

sprior (249994) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635613)

You'll see, if you ever get a kid and a camcorder...

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

uberdave (526529) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635615)

Why do you consider storing mp3s, bittorrents, etc illegitimate? Is time shifting TV shows a legitimate use? What about my friend's video editting business? There are plenty of ways of generating 120GB of data in legitimate ways.

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635621)

It's not hard to legally fill a 400GB+ drive if you're using lossless media for whatever reason.

Plenty of people want to rip all their CDs and DVDs so that they can shuttle them around the home network as and when they are needed. Since storage is fairly cheap, it's often worthwhile to rip once and forget rather than using the format of the day and then finding out you can get much better quality in a year's time. 400GB is only about 75 DVD images if you aren't recompressing (and I don't want to watch recompressed MPEG2 on a decent size screen, so straight DVD images are the way to go for a home media server).

Alternatively, people in the creative business obviously don't want to compress their master copies, and uncompressed SD video can easily fill several gigs for a minute of footage. If we can have 850GB discs, we might finally be able to watch true lossless HD video.

Yes, many people fill drives with media content, but quite alot of them bought it fairly or created it themselves.

Re:Cool idea....but (1)

Haiku 4 U (580059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635632)

Why do we need all that space? Has anyone legitamately filled up anything past 120 GB? (and by legit i mean no mp3 storage, bittorrent, so on and so forth)

No. No one has drives
larger than 100 gigs.
You are correct, sir!

No one makes music
or video themselves. It's
clear. We're all pirates.

Who the hell are you?
Bill Gates, with his 640k?
Get a brain, moran!

Re:Cool idea....but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635697)

"640K should be enough for anybody"
-Bill Gates

First Post- Nano Laser Tech! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635419)

Now when will they release these bastards? or is this another IO-MegaPipeDream? But what sort of laser will it take to make nano-pits?


And Iomega used to be good (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635423)

So now that the Jaz drives were huge flops as well as the zip250 (or 700's for that matter) are they going to turn into patent whores?

Hmmm (2, Insightful)

buckymatters (885912) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635426)

Hopefully they'll be rewritable so I can just run my computer off it. That'd be nice, one disc for each OS.

Re:Hmmm (1)

Stibidor (874526) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635484)

Talk about slow! :|

Did they also patent... (3, Funny)

ad0gg (594412) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635427)

Making a clicking noise [] when it dies?

Re:Did they also patent... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635528)

Clicking noises [] indeed. Since they sold me a Jaz drive that ate disks, I have lost trust in them. What's the point of external storage if you don't believe you will be able to read it when you need to? I will never never buy from Iomega again [] .

Re:Did they also patent... (2, Funny)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635599)

Now it's nano-clicking. The sound is so small you can't even hear it.

__ (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635429)

To confirm you're not a script or blind, please type the text shown in this image: tnqsave

What is yours?

Re:__ (1)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635469)

OSR programs can read the text in the image. It takes about 4 tries, but it can.

And hey, want to get around that? Register an account.

Re:__ (1) troll (593289) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635645)

When they first added it that was for logged in accounts to, Not sure what they're doing with it because CmdrTaco believes in security through obscurity (Why isn't the lameness filter in cvs slashcode?). It's just as easy for a bot to login, or for that matter automaticly sign up a new account for every N posts.
As for the captcha's themself, pwncha (c)GNAA will take care of slashdots captchas a bit more reliably than that. Hey taco, next time you're silently responding to gnaa floods, 1) Be a man and admit changes, 2) Don't use tech thats been broken.

Oh boy.. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635434)

My fat finger print just erased 138 Gigs of data from my DVD!

Click of death ... on remote control? (0, Redundant)

guyfromindia (812078) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635441)

IO Mega was notoriously famous for the 'click of death' on its zip and jazz removable drives Check out [] this site.
I stopped using IOMega stuff a long time ago. Since this patent is just a technology, I may buy the product (if affordable) ONLY if it is manufactured by somebody other than IOMEga.

Re:Click of death ... on remote control? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635569)

Yeah, because they will sure try to make certain all their new hardware does the exact same thing, just because people like you expect it.

Flame bait.

Re:Click of death ... on remote control? (2, Insightful)

Humorously_Inept (777630) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635607)

True enough, but they were very good about replacing the affected drives regardless of whether they were still under warranty or not. I think the quality of a company's warranty says a lot about the people running it and their intentions. Commitment to customer satisfaction is quite rare and I can only hope that Iomega still maintains that same commitment.

Does a protoype exist? (4, Insightful)

NightWulf (672561) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635445)

I'm reading the articles mentioning that they have been issued two patents, but is there anything tangible to these patents. So they have a working 850GB DVD using nanotech, or is this just another patent for tech that *could* be made in 2025.

Re:Does a protoype exist? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635614)

or is this just another patent for tech that *could* be made in 2025

Lets hope... after all, the patent will expire in 2022!

Iomega! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635447)

The phrase "click of death" comes to mind, and the thought is 8,500 times more terrifying.

I wonder.... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635448)

I wonder how long until these too suffer the click of death [] .

I see Iomega has finally caught on... (-1, Troll)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635453)

... don't bother competing in the marketplace. Patent a bunch of random obvious stuff and sit back and collect some money.

Re:I see Iomega has finally caught on... (1, Offtopic)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635630)

"Redundant"?! I'm shocked and outraged. I'm obviously TROLLING guys!!! If you're going to mod me down, the least you could do is to GET IT RIGHT!

Great! (3, Insightful)

0kComputer (872064) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635456)

Now I can get rid of my Zip drive.

form factor? (3, Interesting)

nilbog (732352) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635460)

Is it still on the same less-than-perfect form factor? Seriously, I have casette tapes and 8-track tapes, and VHS tapes that still work, but my DVD's skip every dang time. How about we work on something durable...?

Yea well... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635464)

I've got a patent pending for a terrabyte DVD drive and a 100 terrabyte DVD drive. So, there!

Of course, just like the Iomega vaporware, you can't get one of my drives yet either but, I'll have the patent Real Soon (tm). I think I'll release Duke Nukem as the first title on my new world dominating format.


Scratched discs? (3, Insightful)

adisakp (705706) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635466)

Of course, with 850GB per disc, a single scratch will wipe out a couple gigs of data.

Re:Scratched discs? (1)

0kComputer (872064) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635515)

Unless they put in redundancy, for example, 425 for storage and 425 for redundancy. Of course thats going to reduce the amount of storable data.

finally... clone your entire drive (2, Insightful)

johnpaul191 (240105) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635467)

maybe with media this large people will be more likely to back up (clone?) their entire hd? maybe not.... but it would make it a lot easier than picking the important files.

even of the slightly more responsible people i know... a few lost their entire mp3 collection when the drive died. i guess they did not have a 200 gig backup drive.

Wow, 850GB? (1)

Ignorant Aardvark (632408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635477)

All of the storage capacity in my entire house could fit on two of these things. Awesome!

Damn only 850 (2, Interesting)

Admiral Trigger Happ (807561) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635478)

That wont even fit a quater of the data we deal with, Uncomressed video takes a LOT of space. We need 10 Terabyte discs

Another shot... (1)

Crimson Dragon (809806) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635481)

This is yet another crucial shot across the bow for the coming media wars. With 850GB storage, however, competing formats have an interesting road ahead of them.

Don't be surprised (0, Redundant)

RealProgrammer (723725) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635487)

... if the drive it's in starts to make a certain clicking [] sound.

Not news (2, Insightful)

SkinnyPapa (843210) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635489)

Every few months, some new technology pops-up with promises of greater storage capacity (all simpsons episodes on 1 disc!!1!1one) on today's or future optical/magnetic media.
Be it some variation of Holographic storage, which has been promised over 10 years ago or something different.
This is this generation's Cold Fusion.
Besides, seeing how much trouble there is with the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD war, I doubt we'll see any other format come up in the next 7-8 years.

Re:Not news (1)

PoorLenore (608332) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635601)

Wasn't this generation's Cold Fusion, Cold Fusion?

Too bad its iomega.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635492)

Is it going to require you use special iomega $400/unit media?

I'll wait 5 years.. (4, Insightful)

Adult film producer (866485) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635496)

850 gigs ? Wow.. nice but how about reliability and longevity? (I'm sure the press release will promise the heaven and sky.) I'm reminded of this by people setting themselves up as guniea pig experiments for laser eye surgery. I'll wait another 10 years before diving into that one too. A lot of theory suggests everything will be okay but I'll let father time be the judge of that.

Good 'ol Iomega ... (0, Redundant)

Fookin (652988) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635497)

So what's the equivalent of the "click-of-death" for optical devices? Some sort of "permament-scratch-on-a-lens" or a "blink-of-death"?

Good stuff to look forward to ...

Re:Good 'ol Iomega ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635582)

the spin up spin down swirly of death.

stock price (1)

cosmo7 (325616) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635507)

Iomega's stock [] is still suffering from analysts obsessed with declining zip drive sales. Should be interesting if this has any impact, not that analysts ever read /.

nig64 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635509)

mp3s (1)

kjeldor (146944) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635518)

Time to start decompressing the mp3s...
Seriously, when stuff like this hits the market, why bother worrying about compression anymore?

Re:mp3s (1)

cosinezero (833532) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635637)

Because an 850gb r/w drive is going to cost an armload more than your iPod's 40gb magnetic drive...

Re:mp3s (1)

Zeebs (577100) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635680)

Because, if you just decompress the mp3s the only thing you get back is the larger file, the quality is gone forever. Re-rip the track or leave it compressed otherwise you just found the best way to waste the space, perhaps other then archiving slashdot.

As cool as this is... (2, Insightful)

Gardenhead (877036) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635522)

It's a step in the wrong direction. The great minds behind all this new technology need to meet up AGAIN so these things can make it into the consumer's hands. I don't want 3 different optical drives in my tower. This could either start DVD doomsday or this technology could take the path of everthing else that Iomega has made; they tend to overcharge for media, which is ultimately their downfall.

IT's New Nightmare... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635529)

Just when IT managers thought that their data was safe from walking out the front door, Joe "Blow" User comes in with a "Zip DVD" drive and copies all the servers over the network before leaving at the end of the day.

The "Zip DVD" drive... another soon-to-be banned item from the workplace.

Space abundance (4, Interesting)

Council (514577) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635532)

The inevitable situation is that we will have unlimited space -- that is, more than we can fill. So what happens when we can quite easily put every piece of digital media we've ever even thought about owning -- all the movies, all the games -- on a single disk, without ever having to delete anything?

I really don't know -- it's an interesting question, both similar and dependent on the question of what happens when we have bandwidth abundance [] . I don't know the answer. What do you think?

One thing that I think is likely is that we will stop trying to organize our data with a tree metaphor and move more toward a search-based system [] , like how iTunes organizes music. It seems a likely possibility.

Re:Space abundance (1)

Soybean47 (885009) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635685)

Inevitable? Are you sure? Seems to me, we find ways of filling however much space is available.

Bigger disks just mean higher-quality media files that fill them just as fast. More bandwidth? Higher-quality media can flood that pretty quickly too.

I dunno. I just don't see storage media growing faster than consumers' ability to fill it with stuff.

Oh shit, another breakthrough (1)

base_chakra (230686) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635539)

Are you lot as frustrated as I am with the heaps of proprietary DVD technology? The deluge of overlapping advances seems to be non-stop. At this point, it's clear that the heterogeneity of DVD hardware and media goes well beyond the DVD-R vs. DVD+R battle, and I find myself perpetually postponing my DVD+RW drive purchase for this very reason: There doesn't ever seem to be a confluence of the best technologies in the DVD hardware market.

Looming product obsolescence is a fact of life for consumers of computer technology, but I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever find that perfect high-speed, high-capacity, dual-layer, SATA- or FW800-based burner.

Imagine a DVD... (2, Funny)

voss (52565) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635553)

That could hold 280,000 MP3s or
150 full length movies at 480 progressive.

I could store my entire media collection on
one disc and still not be able to find anything ;-)

Thats pretty cool.


sintacks (886546) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635554)

Atleast we know it will be outta kinda soon. My entire FLAC collection would fit perfectly. Internal Harddrive storage seems to get less and less appealling every year. Harddrives only seem to burn out because of heat and such. DVD storage FOR THE WIN!

Too little too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635556)

Hasn't someone (sorry can't remember who) already come up with a 1TB storage solution on some kind of optical disk that is near market ready ?

And what's going to be the point of things like Bluray and HDDVD if much better faster capacity drives and media are just round the corner ?

Nostalgia alert (1)

TomorrowPlusX (571956) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635596)

God, I just sort of assumed Iomega was dead at this point.

If this is for real ( and not as a previous poster suggested patent-guarded future-ware ) Iomega might actually be relevant again. How odd that would be.

NOW we're talking! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635627)

I want at least 6hrs of the highest-res HD *UNCOMPRESSED* video on one disk. 850GB is almost enough, so we're getting there. 1 TB or bust!

Let us just pray (1)

Solr_Flare (844465) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635631)

That these new drives do not also include Iomega's patented Click of Death technology.

What's the use you ask? (1)

Gardenhead (877036) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635638)

Industries and individuals have uses for these disks. The photo studio that I work at is starting to digitize a lot of their medium format film. Each frame takes about 120mb. Imagine thousands of photos from a variety of jobs. We could definitely use these discs. And I hope they come in cartridges, even if it is from Iomega.

click (1)

Cheeze (12756) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635656)

click of death.

850GB is a lot of data to entrust to a company with a poor storage history.

Coming soon (1)

saddino (183491) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635670)

NBC: The Complete 1994 Prime Time Season.

what? (1)

cg0def (845906) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635673)

I can't believe this. Slashdot readers always have to whine about something. You know guys noone makes you use anything. If you want to you can even write things down on paper. That way a *scratch* won't wipe anythign else and meanwhile the world will keep moving forward. Oh yeah and as far as the click-of-death is concerned, you are an idiot dude. The new patents concern DVDs and NOT zip disks and hence your post is absolutely irrelevant.

I think this technology is great becasue it finds new uses for technology that is currently available. The DVDs that are in use today can be adaped to this new technology very easily and very very cost efficiently unlike blue ray and HD DVDs. The only concern is that Iomega does not have very much industry sayso and they are probably shooting too far ahead in the future. Today there are very few uses for huge single use disks like the ones proposed but I am sure this will change. Only it most likely wouldn't be Iomega that brings nano technology to the DVD world. And I really really hate companies that live off of patents. Thompson anyone? (well Thompson did a lot of r&d but patenting mpeg is really gay if you ask me)

There is answer why desktop search IS important (1)

Pecisk (688001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635679)

Many people have asked: "what is all fuzz about this desktop search?". Well, here you have answer. Storage will grow larger and faster. And it is a GOOD thing. In such large space, ordering records/files/movies/music/whatever will become too much for person. And there Spotlight, Google Desktop Search, Beagle, Microsoft "next best thing" comes in action. I have seen Spotlight in action and if fact, I'm impressed.

It is interesting how fast other botlenecks in computer systems will catch with storage - memory, cpu (oh, yeah, there comes Cell), io.

Of coarse, actual question is - do people need all this stuff? Maybe not all, but mostly it is good to have "unlimited" storage option.

Note that this is just a PATENT... (1)

cosinezero (833532) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635691)

This isn't necessarily saying they can do it, or even if it's ever going to be cost-effective enough to manufacture.

There's a lot of "blu-ray is pointless with this right around the corner" statements that really need to be re-thought.

What's that sound? (1, Redundant)

FirstTimeCaller (521493) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635698)

Let's hope this new drive never emits a "click, click, click" sound [] .

Actually, I'm shocked to see some innovation from IoMega -- I had written them off as dead. I hope it works out well for them.

that's nothing!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635702)

My attorney is getting ready to file my patent for.. wait for it.. my 851GB DVD!! That's right folks, 850GB is yesterday's fish.

But wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635710)

I can patent an 851GB disc, sell it for cheaper, and reap the benefits.

Space -vs- Time: Space pulls way ahead (1)

ch-chuck (9622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12635712)

In the beginning of the PC, time was ahead of space. CPU's ran 1,2 or 4.77Mhz whereas space was only 180K, maybe 360 or 720K. However, space quickly pulled ahead with 5, 10 and 20Mb disks, leaving cpu's in the 4,8,12 and 16Mhz range. The trend continued, and when cpu's finally caught up to 25, 50Mhz, disks were way ahead at 120, 200Mb. In the late 90's, it continued, with time struggling with 100, 333, 500 and tackling the 1Ghz milestone, space had widened it's lead, blasting thru the 2Gb barrier and easily conquoring 4, 8, 20, then 40 and 60Gb. So here we have an extension of the trend, with time lagging along at 3, maybe 4Ghz, space has left time hopelessly behind in the dust, approaching 1000Gb per disk. Sorry time, space is clear and away the winner in this race.

wait wait wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12635731)

Wait shouldnt we be complaining it's patented?
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