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Debian 3.1 (Sarge) Released

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the at-last-not-at-least dept.

Debian 411

Mister Furious writes "First, Apple switches to Intel, and now, equally shocking: Debian Sarge is released! Hell has officially frozen over! The scoop is from debian-administration.org: "The new Debian stable release, codenamed Sarge, has officially been released today. Several years of development since the last stable release, Woody, was released on the 9th of July, 2002 over a thousand developers around the world have helped make this release possible." Changes include Gnome 2.8, Firefox 1.0.4, Thunderbird 1.0.2, Apache 2.0.54 (1.3.33 is still available, too!), Postgresql 7.4.7, and more. The news hasn't hit the main Debian GNU/Linux site as of this article's posting. Congratulations to all of the Debian developers and contributors. Thanks for all your hard work and for a great distro!" Here's a link to the Debian Stable "Release" file.

Espectr0 points out an article about the release at Linux Compatible, writing "It is available on 14 (!) CD's or 2 DVD's. It includes XFree86 4.3, GNOME 2.8, KDE 3.3, Kernel 2.4.27, GCC 3.3.5, OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 and much others."

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Yes but... (5, Funny)

yogikoudou (806237) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740404)

Does it run Linux on my Mac x86 ?

Yes (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740622)

It does. http://www.debian.org/ports/ [debian.org]

in other news.. DUKE NUKEM FOREVER RELEASED! (5, Funny)

perler (80090) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740406)

In a brillant marketing sting, Steve Jobs of Apple [apple.com] , the Debian Developement Team [debian.org] and 3DRealms [3drealms.com] united and tried to get the attention of the world today by confirming the long rumored news of the release of their respective flagship products, the Intel-microprocessor based "Macintosh Computer" [heise.de] , the linux operating sytem "Debian 3.1" [debian.org] and the so called first person shooter game "Duke Nukem Forever" [3drealms.com] within hours and by doing so slashdotting [wikipedia.org] the website "Slashdot.Org" [slashdot.org] - the only thing of the whole internet thought to be unslashdottable [1112.net] .

gentoo r0x0rs (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740414)

debian s0xs

Mail to debian-announce; news on www.debian.org (5, Informative)

Josh Triplett (874994) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740415)

Mail to debian-announce [debian.org]

News on www.debian.org [debian.org]

Congrats to the Debian project!

Re:Mail to debian-announce; news on www.debian.org (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740646)

Oh yes! Everybody. Pheeerr the power of Debian as it releases it latest version made up of software that's two years out of date... that's no more "stable" than anything in, for example, Fedora... and is, in fact, missing years of improvements and bugfixes.

Was it worth the wait? Hell no. Forget Debian and its idiotic release politics. Get a more realistic distro.

This is new? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740419)

XFree86 4.3? Wow!

fristpost (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740422)

faster than the speed of debian

GNAA PR: Debian 3.1 Sarge (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740423)

GNAA Congratulates the Debian Project on the Release of Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 "Sarge"
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"Sarge" is notable for greatly expanding upon the Debian policy of creating distributions that are obsolete before they are even released - a practice which, while not particularly desirable, has been enthusiastically received by nostalgic collectors of outdated open source software, as well as the National Association for Marketing Buggy Linux Applications, or NAMBLA. Debian project leader Branden Robinson defended the policy, however, in an impromptu GNAA interview which was conducted at his home. When asked to comment on Debian's slow adoption of new software, he was quoted as saying, "Look, the fact is that the open source development model is so ineffective that just as many new bugs are probably created in each release as old ones are fixed, so it all evens out. Right? Um - please stop touching my leg. No I'm not homophobic, I just - hey, I said cut it out! No, stop! I'm saving myself for Bruce Perens! HELP!"

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frosty pish (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740429)

fp

Look, It's Not Bloody April... (1, Redundant)

segedunum (883035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740432)

...OK? So cool it with these one after the other April Fool's stories.

Bill gates alert! (-1, Troll)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740436)

14 CDs is the cost of OSS now huh? Just wait "OSS isn't free, you need 25 billion CDs just to install a popular OS!"

Re:Bill gates alert! (1)

dionoea (833823) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740516)

Who even uses the CDs to install debian anyway ?

Re:Bill gates alert! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740559)

You just need CD 1 ... not even that really. Most sane debian installations are net-installed.

Ubuntu still takes one CD.

Re:Bill gates alert! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740574)

.. or use the moderate-bandwith solution, use a smartcard iso burned to a cd-rw and install it.. :)

Re:Bill gates alert! (3, Informative)

gregmac (629064) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740581)

Most people install Debian with the net-install CD (or at least, they should). It's about a 100MB iso that gets a base system installed, and then you can use apt-get to install anything else you'd like. Because of debian's great package management, it also means this CD can be quite old and still install a current version - you just have to apt-get dist-upgrade as soon as you're done installing. Using the same method you can also convert your system to unstable if you'd like.

All 14 CDs include EVERY package (as in, you'll get 6 or 7 web browsers, media players, and every other obscure program that is in the repository) and source. That's probably unnecessary for 99% of people out there. Not to mention a fairly big waste of bandwidth to download.

Re:Bill gates alert! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740611)

you don't need 14 CDs, dipswitch.
you get the installer and pull the rest down as needed.

Re:Bill gates alert! (2, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740775)

14 CDs is the cost of OSS now huh?

Don't you guys ever get tired of this particular bit of silliness?

So tell me, how many CDs do you need for propriatary software? A quick jog down the aisles of Best Buy infers quite a large number; and at a rather higher cost than for just the blank media.

KFG

Congratulations! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740437)

Direct download links at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/ [debian.org] . Bittorrent, Jigdo or direct ISO downloads (CDs or DVDs).

Coincidence? (3, Funny)

hunterx11 (778171) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740439)

In a rare show of solidarity with Apple, the Debian maintainers decided to stay with XFree86 instead of X.org when they heard that Apple was switching to x86.

Re:Coincidence? (2, Informative)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740674)

Debian will switch to x.org - they haven't done it because, er, it'd have delayed sarge's release even more

Re:Coincidence? (4, Informative)

lakeland (218447) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740689)

Er... no. Debian announced it will be moving to xorg as soon as xorg makes a proper release instead of a legacy release. I think debian was the first distro to announce a switch to xorg, though I may be wrong.

In order to get off the ground quickly, xorg has been releasing versions based on xmkmf that have only really been tested on x86 and ppc. That's great, and means 90% of the people reading this can run xorg now instead of waiting six months for a non-legacy version.

Debian has been about doing things right, and waiting until they can do things right. They don't want to change to the transitional version of xorg and then change to the non-legacy version of xorg in six months. When xorg gets around to a proper build script based around configure, and starts supporting all the architectures of xfree86, then debian will switch to them.

Hurrah! (1)

poopdeville (841677) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740440)

This is great news. Congratulations to everybody involved.

Now, when can we expect Etch? ;-p

Official announcement (1)

Tarrio (151332) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740444)

Official announcement [debian.org]

Way to go, guys! (2, Funny)

stinky wizzleteats (552063) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740445)

Congrats all around. Even though I haven't been much of a Debian user, I am very pleased to see this. Making the June 6 projected release date sends a great message to the rest of the larger Linux community.

Re:Way to go, guys! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740606)

Is it me, but as Woody was released on July 9th, surely it wouldn't have hurt to have waited another 4 weeks to release Sarge on the anniversary. There again, maybe they wanted to get it out before 3 year deadline.

Here's hoping the next release is in 2 years time, not 3 again.

LOL oh yeah, right on time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740636)

Making the June 6 projected release date sends a great message to the rest of the larger Linux community.

LOL!
Well, correct me if I am wrong but the last message we got was: "Sarge will be released on December 2003"!

Agreed, it's not much, just 1.5 years...

It's mighty chilly today! (1)

chrisblore (866716) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740452)

Oh my god, hell has actually frozen over today!

Re:It's mighty chilly today! (1)

thegrassyknowl (762218) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740693)

Well, where I'm sitting (south enough to be considered hell) it is freezing. It's close to zero deg (C) outside.

What's next? (1)

Man in Spandex (775950) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740456)

David Hasselhoff doing IBM ads?

Hell Has Not Frozen Over (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740459)

Contrary to the poster's assertion Hell has not frozen over. The Cubs have not won the World Series and Duke Nukem 3D hasn't been released. I'm also waiting for the aliens from Roswell to return...

Re:Hell Has Not Frozen Over (1)

m85476585 (884822) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740557)

There will have to be a solar and lunar eclipse at the same time! (I would miss it, There is a thunderstorm where I am now.) I know a solar and lunar eclipse cannot happen at the same time.

Re:Hell Has Not Frozen Over (1)

Captain Zion (33522) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740774)

The Cubs have not won the World Series and Duke Nukem 3D hasn't been released.
They didn't tell you? It has been released, even the source code... and there's also a Linux version [icculus.org] ! Now I just can't wait for this new Quake game from id, it must be even better than Doom 2!

Nice (1)

LiNKz (257629) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740461)

Glad to see Debian coming back to a relatively current stable. Debian was my distro of choice until two years later I had the same current CD to install with. I moved from BSD for my servers then. Workstation wise, Debian will be great again :) I wonder what will happen to all of those users who use backports.

Hell has officially frozen over! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740463)

Also in todays news: A new species of flying pig has been discovered in South America, and a stockpile of weapons of mass destructions located in Iraq.

Whew! (5, Funny)

.killedkenny (589139) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740467)

Maintaining a 3-year-old Woody has been quite er...hard.

Re:Whew! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740535)

You won't miss it because you'll have three years of maintaining sargeahead of you.

I, for one... (1)

gotgenes (785704) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740473)

I, for one, welcome our new Debian 3.1 overlords, as I upgrade my boxen from Woody to Sarge.

Thank you, Debian developers everywhere!

At least ! (2, Funny)

farib (823081) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740475)

Dawn lamer warez groups, weren't able to leak a final version of Sarge before the official release.

quick date check... (1)

WwWonka (545303) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740480)

...hmmm...Apple/Intel..Debian new release...

you say it's NOT April first???

[Insert (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740483)

476 Duke Nukem Forever, GNU Hurd, and winged pigs skating on the surface of Hell jokes here.]

Excellent news! (2, Interesting)

fernique (754349) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740484)

The only thing frustrated me -- the number of Release-Critical [debian.org] bugs is not zero! Why is it so? Could anybody give the answer?

Re:Excellent news! (1)

cjwatson (224090) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740579)

The release team went over the remaining issues listed as concerning the next release and determined that either we could live without them, or fix them via security.debian.org.

Re:Excellent news! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740618)

The only thing frustrated me -- the number of Release-Critical [debian.org] bugs is not zero! Why is it so? Could anybody give the answer?

Because people like you spend more time posting on Slashdot than actually contributing and fixing bugs.

Droppin' da Bomb (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740485)

So now if I want to play Duke Nukem on my MacSarge, I might be stupid, but I'm not crazy.

Should Have Used the Preview Button (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740568)

So now if I want to play Duke Nukem Forever on my Sarge/x86 Mac, I might be stupid, but I'm not crazy.

Oh, that's just great... (0, Troll)

Mad_Rain (674268) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740489)

Just as soo as I finish compiling the last versi... Ooops, wait, wrong distro. [gentoo.org]

Why bother to post new stories... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740493)

...while /.'s backup servers are being hosted over Taco's dialup?

-1 UNLIKELY (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740494)

GNAA Congratulates the Debian Project on the Release of Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 "Sarge"

GNAA Congratulates the Debian Project on the Release of Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 "Sarge"

BATON ROUGE, LA - June 6, 2005 - The Gay Nigger Association of America extended today its congratulations to the Debian Project regarding its 8th consecutive release of the Debian GNU/Linux distribution. The latest incarnation of Debian, codenamed "Sarge", had been eagerly snticipated for approximately 6,000 years by both unwashed GNU/Hippies and fizzlebearded Open
Source aficionados alike. So far the reception of "Sarge" has ranged from
indifferent to uninterested, but the release has managed to draw the attention
of many fundamentalist Christians, who have long seen the release of a new
version of Debian as one of the major signs of the apocalypse.



"Sarge" is notable for greatly expanding upon the Debian policy of creating
distributions that are obsolete before they are even released - a practice
which, while not particularly desirable, has been enthusiastically received by
nostalgic collectors of outdated open source software, as well as the National
Association for Marketing Buggy Linux Applications, or NAMBLA. Debian project
leader Branden Robinson defended the policy, however, in an impromptu GNAA
interview which was conducted at his home. When asked to comment on Debian's
slow adoption of new software, he was quoted as saying, "Look, the fact is that
the open source development model is so ineffective that just as many new bugs
are probably created in each release as old ones are fixed, so it all evens
out. Right? Um - please stop touching my leg. No I'm not homophobic, I just
- hey, I said cut it out! No, stop! I'm saving myself for Bruce Perens!
HELP!"



About Debian

The Debian project was started in 1993 by Ian Murdock, who was unsatisfied
with the level of political bickering and useless hand-wringing found in other
projects at the time. The Debian Project has grown steadily over the years and
currently consists of over 1,000 developers and maintainers, yet contains more
bugs and is more out of date than the older Slackware distribution, which is
produced by a single maintainer with a chronic bacterial infection. Debian's
use has been on the decline due to users being fed up with its sluggish release
process and political drama, but it has nevertheless received the accolade of
those Linux users who have not yet discovered the existence of superior and
more modern distributions such as Ubuntu, Fedora Core, and Windows Server 2003.



About GNAA:

GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first
organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one
common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY [klerck.org] ?

Are you a NIGGER [mugshots.org] ?

Are you a GAY NIGGER [gay-sex-access.com] ?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER
ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
) might be exactly what you've been looking for!

Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy
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GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing
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America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join
today!

Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

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  • Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on irc.gnaa.us, and apply for membership.

Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up
today
! Upon submitting your application, you will be required to submit
links to your successful First Post, and you will be tested on
your knowledge of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE.

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER
ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network.
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If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

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Yea D-Day has arrived! (3, Funny)

OmegaBlac (752432) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740500)

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of "But Debian is so ancient" trolls suddenly cried out in frustration and were suddenly silenced.

Re:Yea D-Day has arrived! (1)

segedunum (883035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740632)

Yer, we've fucking heard it already. It's funny the first fifteen times, and then the gloss mysteriously starts to disappear.

Guess what? It is. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740762)

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of "But Debian is so ancient" trolls suddenly cried out in frustration and were suddenly silenced.

Well, I am sorry to deliver such news to you, but:
a) It is ancient (XFree, Open Office 1.1, etc.)
b) It is late (merely 1.5 years).
c) It is insanely big (14 CDs).

Those jerks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740502)

And they release it for x86 too! First Apple, now Debian. Is the whole world going x86 crazy??

dang only 12% (1)

neiko (846668) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740506)

dang, I only got to 12% of the first DVD before it hit slashdot...thought I might get away painless.

Re:dang only 12% (4, Informative)

Anubis350 (772791) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740657)

sounds like its time for bittorrent to take over eh?

go here [linuxisotorrent.com]

or direct links:
dvd1 [debian.org]

dvd2 [debian.org]

What Is the World Coming To? (1)

linguae (763922) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740512)

First Apple switches to Intel chips. Next, there is finally a Debian release. What's next? Microsoft giving away old versions of Office and Windows? Longhorn coming out next week? GNU Hurd becomes fully usable?

What a strange day today.

Re:What Is the World Coming To? (1)

grunthos (574421) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740659)

Yahoo! I'm going to be up all night playing Duke Nukem Forever!

What?! But I thought... today... I mean,... but... but...

Aw, crap.

Congrats! (1)

Trashman (3003) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740522)

Congratulations to the entire Debian Project! Sarge is a Modern Distro Desktop Distro. I wonder what the people who complain that Debian is outdated will say now?

Here's looking forward to Debian 4.0!

Re:Congrats! (2, Insightful)

suitepotato (863945) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740759)

Congratulations to the entire Debian Project! Sarge is a Modern Distro Desktop Distro. I wonder what the people who complain that Debian is outdated will say now?

Just wait another two years when others are running things like Fedora Core 7 and Sarge is looking like he needs a furlough.

debian.org now has it (3, Informative)

Mister Furious (413397) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740523)

The original story (I'm the submitter) says that the main Debian site doesn't have the news yet. It has been updated to reflect the release between the time I submitted the story and the time it was posted.

The news release is here [debian.org] .

Exciting (1)

audiorevolution (882513) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740532)

"OSS isn't free, you need 25 billion CDs just to install a popular OS!" Or you could just netinst. ;-) Congrats to the Debian team who put this together, and onward into Etch!

Dang, time to Upgrade (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740558)

and see if my new laptop drivers work for WiFi in Debian ...

Kernel (1)

3770 (560838) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740569)

Wow, that is great news.

I used to be a Debian head. But I've sort of lost touch with it. But this makes me want to try it again.

What kernel version? 2.4? 2.6?

Re:Kernel (2, Informative)

eldacan (726222) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740677)

2.4.27 and 2.6.8

Re:Kernel (1)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740695)

both

Re:Kernel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740754)

you can go with a very stable 2.6.8 from startup by typing expert26 at the first prompt.
it's sweet.

Re:Kernel (3, Informative)

Trashman (3003) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740755)

I believe The default is 2.4. but you can have 2.6 at install time if you type linux26 @ the boot prompt. 2.6.8 ships with Sarge.

Working download link (4, Informative)

maswan (106561) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740572)

Feel free to download cd and dvd images from cdimage.debian.org [debian.org] , we should have plenty of capacity.


And if we run out, we will do http-redirects to our mirrors around the world, so don't be afraid to get your Sarge now!

/Mattias Wadenstein - mirror admin, cdimage.debian.org

You missed April fools by weeks. (1)

far_star (102599) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740577)

Apple to use Intel chips.
Debian 3.1 released.

C'mon, let's buy these guys a calendar.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (0)

Y-Crate (540566) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740584)

In less than a year we have seen:

- Half Life 2 released
- Microsoft switch their flagship product to PPC
- Apple switch to x86
- The revelation of Deep Throat's identity
- The release of Sarge

Hell has frozen over and pigs are flying.

Come on George Broussard..I know you are reading this..just give us some screenshots and let the universe implode entirely.

Re:Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740748)

Microsoft switch their flagship product to PPC

Wait, Windows is on PPC now? No wonder I keep getting BSODs when I try to run it on my x86 PC!

Retraining Required (1)

SomeOtherGuy (179082) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740589)

What new technology will the staunch "stable Debian" loyaltists now be subject to with this new release?

I could be a smart ASS and say: USB Support, Graphics (other than ASCII art), Plug And Play, 802.11b, etc, etc -- But I won't.

I have been totally impressed with a few of the Debian cousins lately (Ubuntu and Knoppix) so I have nothing but nice things to say about what Debian has given to us throughout the years.

Next monday slashdot headline (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740593)

"Slashdotting ended over debian.org"

upgrade (1)

delirium of disorder (701392) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740595)

apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

(On my SPARC, MIPS, PA-RISC, and x86 machines) For portability and package management, nothing beats debian.

read the release notes (2, Informative)

petermgreen (876956) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740773)

before you even think of doing this on a remote system.

1: there is a package called doc-base that if installed will cause BIG problems unless you upgrade or remove it first.

2: aptitude is generally considered to make safer descions about upgrade order than apt-get

As a long time Debian contributor and developer... (1)

schoolsucks (570755) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740603)

I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. I remember putting out the very first version of Debian. Boy those were the days. I hope everyone likes what we have created and can further enhance it.

Well done! (1)

jynus (790176) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740609)

See you again in etch 2020. ;)

AHHHHHHHHH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740612)

I want my mommy :(

*hides under desk*

Yes, the strain was too much. After two completely impossible events have occured, it's incredibly likely that many more impossible events are going to occur soon. Or something.

Red tape vs common sense. Same as Netscape... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740621)

I'm glad Sarge is released but the release process needs better quality control. They're making the same mistakes as Netscape did recently.

For example, look at:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=p ound [debian.org]

There was a security problem in 1.8.2 (buffer overflow) that was fixed by the upstream developer and reported 40 days ago.

Did a security patch make it into Sarge? No. Did versions 1.8.3, 1.8.4, 1.8.5 or 1.9 make it into Sarge? No.

And yes, pound is a server-oriented program where security is critical. It is even used by Slashdot.

Anyone on the Debian team making fun of Netscape for the recent Firefox 1.04 fiasco is a complete hypocrite.

Re:Red tape vs common sense. Same as Netscape... (1)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740733)

Did a security patch make it into Sarge? No. Did versions 1.8.3, 1.8.4, 1.8.5 or 1.9 make it into Sarge? No.

There're more security issues. Those, however, can (and will) be corrected after sarge's been released

(yes, it sucks, but fixing all security issues would have delayed even more the release)

Re:Red tape vs common sense. Same as Netscape... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740768)

If this bug really is release-critical, someone who cared(TM) should have increased the severity of the bug.

If this really is as critical and unsecure as you claim, it will be fixed and uploaded to security.debian.org when someone notifies the right people about it (maintainer & security-team).

On the other hand, I don't know anyone who uses pound.

Habemus Debian! (2, Interesting)

shywolf9982 (887636) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740639)

That's incredible. Now, Microsoft HAS to release Longhorn. C'mon, you can't let the Debian guys be faster than you....
Apart from jokes, I'm curious to know if Debian still holds a share of the "market". It was a gooddistribution, but a lil too static. I honestly think they should consider doubling the release speed, or atleast provide significant updates for a release from time to time (who said "and why not call 'em Service Packs?").

I'll be a data point. (1)

khasim (1285) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740749)

I'm running 4 Debian boxes here (and they're all Sarge now 'cause Debian makes it so easy).

One of them is a test box, the other three are production servers.

=====

At home, I'm running two of them and they've been Sarge for a long time. And Ubuntu on the desktop, but that's a different story.

And the home boxes are running 2.6.11.11 (the only non-stock-Debian item on them).

Linux distros distribution (1)

theurge14 (820596) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740648)

The thing I don't understand about various distros is why in this age of the Internet a big announcement has to be made that an operating system finally has great new features like Gnome 2.8 and Firefox 1.04. Why do Fedora Core users have to burn another gaggle of CDs every 6 months just to stay up to date? Why is it that it seems Gentoo is the only distro that has figured this out? I find this particularly annoying considering Linux in general has been a "download this for free!" type OS but yet we're still upgrading them like we're buying shrink wrapped boxes.

Healthy torrents over here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740666)

Grab the torrents of the dvd's. I've already seeded 30gig of those today :)

Just to be elite you should get them here:

http://torrentspy.com/search.asp?query=sarge+gold& submit.x=0&submit.y=0 [torrentspy.com]

(tho' i have to say that the easiest way to install is to grab the 50M business-card-cd and install everything else over network)

annoying (1)

mstep (889952) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740684)

I installed Debian Woody just three days ago. What are the odds? Luckily upgrading shouldn't be too much hassle (how I love this OS). Congratulations to all Debian developers :)

Torrents? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740685)

Any torrents for the DVD images yet?

Re:Torrents? (2, Informative)

lintux (125434) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740735)

Yes, all kinds of images can be found here [debian.org] , and for DVD BitTorrents (x86) you can look here [debian.org] .

*Sigh* (1)

ilyanep (823855) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740687)

Last time I tried to install any debian I had major problems:

Debian Woody's graphics drivers didn't work w/ my card

Debian Sarge screwed up my partitions causing me to lose ALL of my data (from my Windows Partition). I dunno if their partitioning tool has improved, but I don't want to risk it.

Re:*Sigh* (1)

eldacan (726222) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740721)

The new version of parted used in sarge fixes this bug. And your data was not lost, you would just have had to fix the partition able (that is, if you're indeed speaking of this bug)

The end of the world isn't near.... (2, Funny)

tktk (540564) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740699)

I won't start panicking until Duke Nukem Forever goes gold.

No, no... (1)

kukickface (675936) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740704)

the book of revelations clearly states that Sarge's release only heralds the SECOND horseman of the apocalypse. The end is nigh only when the FOURTH horseman roams free. In otherwords, don't start to worry until the HURD reaches 1.0

Great news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12740709)

We've been running Sarge/testing in production for the last 8 months and only once had a minor issue upgrading packages.

We found Debian to be an exremely stable, easy to administer distribution perfectly suited for production server environments and the quality of Debian packages deserves the highest praise.

My congratulations to the Debian team.

this is great! (1)

bblazer (757395) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740728)

This is great, but what does it have to do with Apple switching to Intel chips? :)

KDE 3.4 for Debian Sarge (4, Informative)

Bill Kendrick (19287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740734)

For those who are using, or want to use, Debian Stable (now 'sarge'), but want KDE 3.4 (instead of 3.3), you can get it from pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org [debian.org] .

For those who've been using sarge via its 'Testing' monicker, I'm guessing KDE 3.4 will hit 'etch' (the new 'Testing') in the coming weeks.

Enjoy!

Sincere... (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740767)

congratulations to the Debian team on a true milestone.

This release is likely to result in a massive rise in adoption on both desktops and server rooms alike.

Take a rest now, you've more than earned it - but do keep those updates coming!

Release Number?! (1)

foo fighter (151863) | more than 9 years ago | (#12740771)

I'm no fan of liberal release/version number inflation. But this seems way too conservative. Isn't this a major release for Debian? Why in the world isn't this Debian 4? What is that going to take?
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