×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

I am the Most Spammed Person in the World

timothy posted more than 8 years ago | from the heart-goes-out-to-you dept.

Spam 478

jefp writes "In November 2004, Microsoft's second-in-command Steve Ballmer made some headlines by mentioning that Chairman Bill Gates was getting four million spams per day. At the time, I was dealing with a little spam problem of my own - I was getting around a million spams per day. I found it a little comforting that my problem wasn't quite as bad as Bill's. However, a couple of weeks later Ballmer corrected himself, saying he mis-remembered the stat and Gates actually gets four million per year. This means I was getting one hundred times as much spam as Bill Gates. I've written a tutorial explaining why I get so much crapmail and how I deal with it."

cancel ×
This is a preview of your comment

No Comment Title Entered

Anonymous Coward 1 minute ago

No Comment Entered

478 comments

This will help his spam problem for sure!! (5, Funny)

fizz (88042) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760206)

he just went from 1 million a day to about 1.3 million a day.

I know how to deal with spam. (5, Funny)

PopeAlien (164869) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760276)

I dont get nearly as much spam as that, but even a few hundred a day is pretty irritating. My solution is to delete all email as soon as I get it.

I figure if its important I'll get a phone call.

MOD PARENT UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760365)

My solution is to delete all email as soon as I get it.
Brilliant! Pure genius! I wonder why I never thought of that.

Re:I know how to deal with spam. (5, Funny)

Everleet (785889) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760451)

Funny, I delete all phone calls as soon as I get them. I figure if it's important I'll get an IM.

Somebody needs an alias (1)

Eunuch (844280) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760207)

Just throw your hands up and admit that's the only real way to turn them away.

Bummer dude. (1, Insightful)

raolin (512968) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760211)

think I'd first get a new email address.

Re:Bummer dude. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760303)

I was writing an email, on the PC, and it was like:
"Bleepbleepbleepbleepbleepbleep!"

Bummer.

First? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760217)

Yay to Slash-whoring your own site that is then too slow to respond and almost /.s before any comments appear.

Give him a Tony (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760221)

for Spamalot

Who are you? (-1)

ClickWir (166927) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760228)

Even a brief description of who the hell you are would be nice. Artical is already slow loading, no suprise.

And that's why.... (5, Funny)

The Woodworker (723841) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760230)

you don't post your email address to farmgirls.com!

Re:And that's why.... (4, Funny)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760396)

you don't post your email address to farmgirls.com!

Oh, sure, and I'm sitting behind a monitored corporate firewall wondering just what might be on the end of such an URL.

Bastards!

my gonads are itching.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760233)

what to do??

Should change his e-mail id (0, Redundant)

anandpur (303114) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760234)

to something like ths hjuhiouh@microsoft.com
It will not make his inbox spam free, but spam will be below 0.001% compared to what he receice now. Think of drop in Internet traffic.

Re:Should change his e-mail id (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760284)

Should change his e-mail id to something like ths hjuhiouh@microsoft.com

No, he should change it to something like "balmer@gmail.com", then he can allow the GMail filters knock it all out.

...

Wait...

Not only that... (1)

The Bungi (221687) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760236)

but now he's the most slashdotted person in the world, at least for a few hours.

This must be depressing for him.

in the world... (3, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760313)

but now he's the most slashdotted person in the world

Hmmm...
* "World's biggest hacker" [slashdot.org]
* "World's Fastest Inkjet Printer" [slashdot.org]

And what we have here? The "most spammed person in the world" becomes "the most slashdotted person in the world" who used "the most over-used headline cliché in the world".
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner! :D

What's happening here is: (5, Funny)

Njoyda Sauce (211180) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760242)

He's really just using Slashdot to break his server farm so he won't have to get spam anymore.

Goals (1)

Nielsvdw (669543) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760243)

"What am I trying to do here? * Keep my email service running and useful. * Keep my web service running too, since it's on the same machine." If the spam won't kill it, the slashdot crowd probably will.

nowhere (3, Interesting)

magarity (164372) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760244)

I'm pretty sure whoever runs nowhere.com can give you a run for your money in the most spam inbound. Although a lot of those are probably from organizations thinking they're sending to legit opt-in requests.

Re:nowhere (4, Informative)

abulafia (7826) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760358)

I know the owner of that domain, and yes, she got so much mail that she ended up turning MX off for it.

Re:nowhere (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760438)

Yeah, but the folks at asdf.com had it even worse.

Not so clever (4, Funny)

xtracto (837672) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760248)

Keep my web service running too, since it's on the same machine.

You try to do this by submiting a story to /. front page?

Good test for thttpd. (2, Interesting)

caferace (442) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760250)

Seeing as how he's the one who wrote it.

Hi Pokey!

-jim

Re:Good test for thttpd. (2, Funny)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760307)

This does not reflect well on thttpd. Not that I'm saying it is a poorly designed web server (indeed, I know it is not!), but it did not last long during this Slashdot barrage. I hope this doesn't become an incident people will refer to when attempting to denegrate thttpd.

Before it was Slashdotted.. (2, Informative)

Peter Cooper (660482) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760251)

the server got as far as spluttering this part of the page out:

What am I trying to do here?

Keep my email service running and useful.
Keep my web service running too, since it's on the same machine.


I guess 1,000,000 spams a day isn't as bad as 1000 people simultaneously trying to access your Web server!

Greylisting (5, Informative)

nocomment (239368) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760253)

Just yesterday I enabled Greylisting in OpenBSD spamd, and today I got 6 spams, compared with my usual 150. (per day).

It's easy to set up and works with your existing mail server. OUr mail server is qmail on red hat, but openbsd just ahppily redirects the legit (what it suspects might be legit rather) to the mail server. The load has dramatically decreaed on the mail server.

Re:Greylisting (1)

nocomment (239368) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760422)

ugh! pardon my spelling a grammar in that last post, I guess I should "preview" more often eh? ;-)

Also I just checked and technically no spams were received today they came in yesterday. So I've gotten 6 spams SINCE enabling greylisting yesterday morning.

A quick suggestion... (5, Insightful)

nganju (821034) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760265)


Your name in the posting is a link that resolves directly to your email address.

Don't know what you're doing right now to reduce the spam, but maybe putting your email address on the front page of Slashdot is a step in the wrong direction.

Re:A quick suggestion... (1)

alexandreracine (859693) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760362)

Actually, this is a great way to promote his anti-spam technique without too much publicity. If... he offerts that technique to company.

Mirror (4, Informative)

schnurble (16727) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760267)

Just to alleviate some of his bandwidth, I have mirrored [parad.net] the mail_filtering pages. Looks like it's all there. Let me know if you want me to take it down.

Favorite Spam (2, Interesting)

strongmace (890237) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760270)

It would be interesting to know what his favorite spam type is. My personal favorite are the African princes who always need access to my bank account for something sketchy.

NO you're NOT. I am the most spammed. (1)

SlashdotTroll (581611) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760272)

And to build some character, this [somethingawful.com] is my favorite movie, and I enjoy long walks on the beach, have flowing long hair, and a wrinkly ass from psoting on slashdot all day long. I also own a Apple compewter and will be first in line to see the new Johny Dapp movie "Charlie and teh Chocolate Fagtory." Anyone like me out there? I hate you.

GPF (1)

HD Webdev (247266) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760275)

I used to have more GPF's than anyone I had ever heard of or met.

Damn. I could have submitted a story about it and used that same box as the web server.

Stop endorsing plagiarism, editors!!! (-1, Flamebait)

goldspider (445116) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760279)

The entire submission was a cut-and-paste from the linked article. No credit was given to the original author. That's unethical, editors, and you should neither reward submitters for it, nor make yourselves accessories by posting it.

My bad! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760346)

Submitter IS the original author :P

Re:Stop endorsing plagiarism, editors!!! (1)

richdun (672214) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760360)

Perhaps this one time it was actually the original author who submitted it...

Re:Stop endorsing plagiarism, editors!!! (3, Insightful)

zerbot (882848) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760375)

Hmm... the article was submitted by jefp, and from the website: © 2005 by Jef Poskanzer. You don't suppose they could be the same person, hmm?

Re:Stop endorsing plagiarism, editors!!! (1)

mmkkbb (816035) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760376)

The submitter is the author of the linked article. Who the hell moderated this informative?

Re:Stop endorsing plagiarism, editors!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760383)

Considering that his email is jeff@mail.acme.com, I am guessing that he is the original author, or has the original author's permission.

Bock bock bock the sky is falling! Please concentrate on contributing to the posts rather than whining. I have mod points too. -1 troll.

Duh (1)

gr8_phk (621180) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760397)

" The entire submission was a cut-and-paste from the linked article. No credit was given to the original author."

I'm not sure if you're trying (and failing) to be funny or just not very observant. The submission was cut and pasted from a website BY THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR. Doh!

Re:Stop endorsing plagiarism, editors!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760405)

Author == Submitter && Parent == Idiot

Of All things I've ever heard someone brag over, (1)

MrAnnoyanceToYou (654053) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760280)

"I'm the most popular person on the planet with people who want to enlarge penises and make them work all night long" isn't one of them.

Weird article, someone ASKING to have themselves put under Slashdot's thumb.

One MILLION spam a day??? (1)

ArielMT (757715) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760290)

Good lord! And here I thought me getting a thousand spam a day was bad! (This from the days when I had Hotspam [hotmail.com] as my email provider.) That kinda got me a bit upset at them. I did really well controlling spam on my personal accounts since then, well enough for me to write a spam prevention how-to [thornton2.com] of my own.

the world will never know... (1)

fimion (890504) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760291)

I suppose that we will not know HOW you do it until the slashdot effect stops.

Well duh! (2, Funny)

Lugor (628175) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760294)

They are ACME Labs! They have everything I ever need. I order my gear to get that nasty Road Runner from them all the time! Its great stuff!

and i thought... (1)

Shads (4567) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760296)

... my thousand a day or so was bad.

I can't even imagine getting that much, i'm already spamfiltering on at least 3 levels (bay server, bay client, manual client).

Spammers should die. If i had to pay for line charges, id just kill my accounts.

Why so much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760298)

Quoted from the website (which seems to have disappeared).

Why So Much?

Why does ACME Labs get so much spam? That's a good question. There are probably two main reasons.

  • Lots of people use "acme.com" as an example or fake address. It even appears in the HTML specifications. They shouldn't be using my domain name for this; in fact there's actually an official recommendation for which domain names to use as examples; but few people follow it.
  • Acme.com's web site is fairly popular - we get about 25,000 visitors per day. That means our web pages are cached on a lot of people's disks. Well, one way that spammers and viruses find addresses to send to is by looking in those web cache files on machines they have taken over.

"mis-remembered" (2, Funny)

johansalk (818687) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760301)

Does Ballmer "mis-remember" his others stats too; he's been showering us with them lately.

Why so much mail? (from the article) (1)

aardwolf64 (160070) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760302)

Why does ACME Labs get so much spam? That's a good question. There are probably two main reasons.

Lots of people use "acme.com" as an example or fake address. It even appears in the HTML specifications. They shouldn't be using my domain name for this; in fact there's actually an official recommendation for which domain names to use as examples; but few people follow it.
Acme.com's web site is fairly popular - we get about 25,000 visitors per day. That means our web pages are cached on a lot of people's disks. Well, one way that spammers and viruses find addresses to send to is by looking in those web cache files on machines they have taken over.

Allow me to introduce myself... (0)

rubato (883366) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760310)

DEAR jefp,

PERMIT ME TO INFORM YOU OF MY DESIRE OF ENTERING INTO BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU. I PRAYED OVER IT CONTACTING YOU DUE TO ITS ESTEEMING NATURE. AS A REPUTABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY PERSON I CAN DO BUSINESS WITH AND I WANT TO CONFIDE IN YOU FOR THIS SIMPLE AND SINCERE BUSINESS.

I ESTELLE OBIH THE DAUGHTER OF LATE MR. DAVID OBIH, MY FAHTER WAS A VERY WEALTHY COCOA MERCHANT BASED IN ABIDJAN, THE ECONOMIC CAPITAL OF COTE D'IVOIRE BEFORE HE WAS POISONED TO DEATH BY HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, ON ONE OF THEIR OUTING TO DISCUSS ON A BUSINESS DEAL.

WHEN MY MOTHER DIED ON THE 21ST OCTOBER 1995. MY FATHER TOOK ME SO SPECIAL BECAUSE I AM MOTHERLESS.

BEFORE THE DEATH OF MY FATHER ON 29TH NOVEMBER 2003 IN A PRIVATE HOSPITAL HERE IN ABIDJAN. HE SECRETLY CALLED ME ON HIS BEDSIDE AND TOLD ME THAT HE HAS A SUM OF EIGHT MILLION, SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATE DOLLARS.(USD$8.700,000) LEFT IN ONE OF THE LEADING FINANCE/SECURITY COMPANY HERE IN ABIDJAN, IVORY COAST WEST AFRICA.

HE FURTHER TOLD ME THAT HE DEPOSITED THE MONEY IN A CONSIGNMENT (BOX), CODED IT TO THE SECURITY COMPANY AS AFRICAN ARTIFACTS, SO THE SECURITY COMPANY IS NOT AWARE THAT THE CONTENT OF THE CONSIGNMENT. HE DID THIS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE MONEY.

HE ALSO EXPLAINED TO ME THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OF THIS WEALTH THAT HE WAS POISONED BY HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, THAT I SHOULD SEEK FOR A FOREIGN PARTNER IN A COUNTRY OF MY CHOICE WHERE I WILL TRANSFER THIS MONEY AND USE IT FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSE.(SUCH AS REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT).

I AM HONOURABLY SEEKING YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS:

TO SERVE AS THE GUARDIAN OF THIS FUND AND MY YOUNGER BROTHER FRANK IS 20 YEARS. TO MAKE ARRANGEMENT FOR US TO COME OVER TO YOUR COUNTRY TO FURTHER OUR EDUCATION AND TO SECURE A RESIDENTIAL PERMIT IN YOUR COUNTRY.

MOREOVER, I AM WILLING TO OFFER YOU 20% OF THE TOTAL SUM AS COMPENSATION FOR YOUR EFFORT INPUT AFTER THE SUCCESSFUL COLLECTING THE BOX FROM THE SECURITY FIRM.

FURTHERMORE, YOU CAN INDICATE YOUR OPTION TOWARDS ASSISTING ME BY SENDING TO US YOUR TELEPHONE/FAX NUMBER, CONTACT ADDRESS, FULL NAME SO THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU AT ANY TIME.

I WILL APPRECIATE YOU SEND ME E-MAIL. ANTICIPATING HEARING FROM YOU SOON. PLEASE DO HURRY TO ASSIST US OUT HERE NOW THAT THIS COUNTRY IS IN POLITICAL CHOAS, WE URGENTLY NEED YOUR KIND ATTENTION.

THANKS AND GOD BLESS
ESTELLE AND FRANK OBIH

Millions of irate replies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760314)

Are you perhaps the originator of many millions of spam messages per day, to which almost all replies are "user unknown" and from pissed off recipients?

if the goal is to make sure you get less spam (1)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760321)

then FORWARD all of yours to bill.

Problem solved!

Re:if the goal is to make sure you get less spam (1)

insomnyuk (467714) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760372)

Sort of like if you want more money donated for cancer research, give Bill Gates cancer.

What I Use (2, Funny)

pastpolls (585509) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760332)

For my fake email I have used john@holmes.com. I just thought it was funny to use. Then I realized there was a holmes.com. I would surely hate to some guy named john if I work there. I can imagine his email box is going nuts from 10 years worth of stuff.

Outlook Spam Filter (2, Informative)

Langley (1015) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760333)

If you work in a company like mine where Outlook is de rigueur and the Boss is too worried about missing an email to even allow for simple spam filtering at the head end. I can't recommend enough that you give SpamBayes Outlook plug-in a try. It operates nearly perfectly if you train it well (only about 600 spam messages needed).

Spam Filter Slashdoted (1)

Space_Soldier (628825) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760340)

Great! Now, his bayesian filter will get Slashdoted and he will actually see 1,000,000 viagra, penis enlargment, horse fucking spam.

I started to email you, but then.. (1)

lcsjk (143581) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760348)

I started to email you, but then I started thinking, what if you are collecting and selling email addresses.... Wouldn't this be a good way to get bonafide email addresses? So now I am just wondering how you filter out the three real emails you get daily from the unwanted million.

Email address (1)

UnixRawks (705739) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760356)

Maybe it is because I was one of may who received a spam-like email with the return address: SteveBallmer@ceo.microsoft.com

slashmongerer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760363)

Hey, here's a link to my personal website running IIS on a 486, pleeeeease punnish me.

On a side note these criptic images to confirm im not a script are getting more and more artsy.
Way to go Taco!

New unit of measurement? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760364)

One Gates = 4,000,000 spam/year?

"I've got to get a new email account. This one's getting about twenty kiloGates".

The Land before SPAM (1)

PTMD (890495) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760368)

Quote from the article; "This was in 1997, when I was getting a couple hundred spams per day"... Time to buy an island with no services, and move.

Isn't that what yahoo mail is for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12760370)

Just signup for things using a newly created yahoo account, get the reply you're after and never use the account again :)

What hardware is your site running on, Jef? (2, Informative)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760382)

For those who do not know, Jef Poskanzer is the author of the thttpd webserver. I'm just wondering what sort of hardware you're running your site and email server on, Jef. I know that thttpd is extremely quick and efficient, so it wouldn't surprise me if you were running on an older 486 or early Pentium I machine.

Thunderbird? (1)

rackrent (160690) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760391)

Sheesh, tell Ballmer and Gates to use Thunderbird. Or drink it first (better). Then politely tell them how to use junk mail controls. They'll forget anyway, or probably ask: "Hey how can we buy more Thunderbird?"

I'll point them to the corner liquor store instead, as they just wouldn't understand, anyway.

Sue the spammers into bankruptcy. (1)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760431)

Though one lawsuit won't put a spammer out of business, 50 lawsuits might. Or 15 will make them reconsider thought business of spamming like Avtech [barbieslapp.com] .

Having over a million spams a day should make easy to find some spammers that can be tracked and sued. With that volume, it may be easy to find an attorney that can do it on contigency.

I suspect most if it is from Wiley the Coyote (1)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760434)

...getting back at you for all those screwed up acme rockets, boots, springs, hammers, etc. that you sold him. You were the road runner's best friend.

Dealing with (-1, Redundant)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760439)

Dealing with spam is one thing.

Dealing with the Slashdot Effect[tm] is something else entirely.

Having your story told on Slashdot: PRICELESS!

No more spam. (1)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760440)

The best thing to do is what I did: Get yourself a T1 connection, which is not quite as expensive today as it used to be. Set up a domain name. Set up a mail server. The way you set it up is as follows: You have a primary account, which you actually check. This is a secret account, and you give it to nobody. Then, to each person who might one day send you email, you give a unique email address. So you'll have thousands of email addresses, one for each person who might send you an email. You set up SpamAssassin. You don't actually check all those inboxes. Instead, mail that gets in and passes through the spam filter is forwarded, so to speak, to your one true email address. If you find crap, you cancel the address that it came in from. This can all be done automatically, with a click of a button, if you set up all the scripts ahead of time. Then, bata bim, bata boom, no more spam.

interesting, what I use works too (1)

downsize (551098) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760444)

I have some control, I am not writing milters or anything like the author, but with my shinyfeet [shinyfeet.com] account I have my gmail, yahoo, hotmail and a few various others (domain's I own, etc - and I can use the FROM option so I don't have to reply as downsize_sf[AT]shinyfeet if I do not want to, I can keep my domain email addy, or gmails, and so forth) forwarding to it and I see very very little spam.

they use bayesian filtering, but give you the control to configure it to some degree (interesting bayesian spam comparisions here - http://home.dataparty.no/kristian/reviews/bayesian / [dataparty.no] ) and I get my own BL filters too, so I can turn on/off spamcop, DSBL, and about 20 others.

i'm not getting 1million anything a day, but if I was, I am glad I use the service I do to prevent me from having the headaches - as I am sure I would if I stuck with yahoo (is my bulk folder overflowing or what?)

Damn...site is slashdotted... (1)

chowdmouse (155597) | more than 8 years ago | (#12760456)

I want to get this guy's e-mail. I've some 1nf0rmat1on that would be of graet 1ntere5t to him.

Load More Comments
Slashdot Account

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
Sign up for Slashdot Newsletters
Create a Slashdot Account

Loading...