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7-Year Old Prequel Fan On ANH

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the see-them-again-for-the-first-time dept.

Star Wars Prequels 937

Random BedHead Ed writes "It is a subject often pondered by Star Wars fans: what is it like to watch the six films in order with a fresh perspective? From the Desk of Ghent, On one of the Star Wars blog site's many journals, answers this question in a recent blog entry about the writer's 7-year old son, who recently watched A New Hope for the very first time. Some enlightening quotes: 'Look... Obi-Wan is pretending he doesn't know R2-D2,' and 'Why don't those ships need Hyperspace rings?' It's a pity the end of Empire has been spoiled."

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star wars sucks (1)

LiMikeTnux (770345) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785919)

frosty piss! -MikeTROLL Industries-

Re:star wars sucks (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785960)

wow that was close, didnt even have time to log out, and i STILL barely made it! i rule!
-MikeTROLL was Here!- (PS, these captchas suck, humans cant even read em!)

gotta agree (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785972)

i find even the regular /. comments hard to read with 8 beers down.

*hic*

yeah (4, Funny)

softends (886321) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785923)

"'Why don't those ships need Hyperspace rings?'"M

Because they didn't even exist in the past in the future in the past. DUH.

Re:yeah (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786011)

According to the books, the fact that X-Wings and such had hyperdrive was something of a novelity, most fighters didn't, and used larger ships for long distance travel.

An example of this is in episode 3 when they talk about the short range TIE fighter.

In reality this makes perfect sense. Hyper drive units would add a lot of bulk to a combat fighter. Yet add nothing to it's abilty to actually fight in comabat.

So keeping the Hyper Drive unit seperate would be a simple way to increase combat performance.

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I would create an account but after 10 attempts to find a user name that isn't taken...

Re:yeah (5, Insightful)

Clay Pigeon -TPF-VS- (624050) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786079)

Except all rebel fighters have them because they cannot count on capital ships, which the empire pretty much monopolizes. The miniaturized hyperdrive is what gave the rebellion a fighting chance to topple the empire.

Re:yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786016)

Because they didn't even exist in the past in the future in the past.

This sounds like a case for Dr Dan Streetmentioner [kassandra.ch]

Welcome... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785933)

I, for one, welcome our new 7 year old Star Wars nerd overlord.

Re:Welcome...WTF? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786041)

Oh .. my .. GOD!! What the hell is with the moderators?! If this had anything to do with Linux, Korea, or Russia, the parent would have skyrocketed to a +3 or +4 Funny in no time even though the overlord joke was unfunny a few decades ago! But yet for no logical reason this one is rated "troll"! What the hell is with you moderators! What?! He said "nerd" so that's deserving of a troll?! Methinks thou dost protest too fucking much if you need to troll down a "nerd" statement!

I really hope that somebody metamods that incompetent nimrod's ass into oblivion.

Wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785948)

I almost got first post. There were no comments, but I had mimimised the page and didn't notice until it was too late :(

And from Empire Strikes Back (5, Funny)

scolby (838499) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785949)

How did Yoda go so senile so quickly?

Re:And from Empire Strikes Back (4, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785997)

If your pension paid only enough to live in a slimy mud hole after living your life in top of an ivory tower, you would be senile too. The dark side of being a retired Jedi... :P

Re:And from Empire Strikes Back (2, Interesting)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786053)

On a more serious note, 20 or so years of cloaking his existence from the Emperor and Darth Vader may have taken a serious toll on him.

Re:And from Empire Strikes Back (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786098)

The dark side of being a retired Jedi..

That's true. Obiwan had to work at a VW Junkyard in Yuma.

why the new series sucks (4, Insightful)

Ubergrendle (531719) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785957)

You will never have the opportunity to relive the moment of truth at the end of Empire, or learn about the twins in Return of the Jedi. It will all be a foregone conclusion. Robbing a child of this opportunity is a heinous crime, given how much I enjoyed the original series given its original presentation.

Re:why the new series sucks (2, Insightful)

mark-t (151149) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785979)

There's nothing wrong with the prequels.

But I realized back when Ep2 came out that it wasn't a good idea to watch the movies in chronological order.

The prequels are interesting in the sense that they fill in some gaps and the backstory, but I don't recommend watching them without seeing eps 4,5, & 6 first.

Re:why the new series sucks (2, Insightful)

Vengie (533896) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786115)

c.f. the chronicles of narnia. Anyone who reads the Magician's Nephew first ought to be shot.

Re:why the new series sucks (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786164)

Agreed. Actually Magician's Nephew makes a fine 2nd book to read, even though it wasn't the 2nd one actually written.

Re:why the new series sucks (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785992)

Agreed. My children will see them in the proper order: 4,5,6, then 1,2,3, then 7,8,9,10,11,12...

(Say what you will, but history will prove me right.)

Re:why the new series sucks (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786121)

My children ... (Say what you will, but history will prove me right.)

Aw, that's nice... So you haven't totally given up on having sex with a woman yet?

Yeah, so hard to cheer for Rebellion anymore.. (4, Interesting)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785994)

If one thing I found was that I was more bound to side with the Empire simply after seeing how inept the Republic truly was.

The new perspective gained from watching the first three puts the whole series in a new light. The Empire really became what it was simply because the Republic and Jedi had become so egocentric and inept they had to be replaced to move forward.

Re:Yeah, so hard to cheer for Rebellion anymore.. (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786072)

That's the appeal of the Dark Side: its power is seductive to those who are afraid of weakness. But that power has a cost...

Re:Yeah, so hard to cheer for Rebellion anymore.. (1)

NutscrapeSucks (446616) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786111)

One of the high-points of the last film was that Palpatine's Dark Side dialog had at least a little worldly substance behind it, and wasn't just corny cliches (like your post :)

Re:Yeah, so hard to cheer for Rebellion anymore.. (4, Interesting)

AHumbleOpinion (546848) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786187)

FWIW, when I played x-Wing vs. Tie Fighter long ago it was fun to work through the ranks as an Empire pilot. Being indoctrinated, bringing peace, stability, and law-and-order to the galaxy. A different perspective added a lot.

Re:why the new series sucks (2, Interesting)

utuk99 (656026) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786013)

I was much happier with the mystery that the originals left of the past. Then again I tend to like anime, which usually pick up in the middle of a story too. Things do not have nice neat beginnings in life, why should they in movies.

Re:why the new series sucks (1)

hermit7323 (782172) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786058)

I used to agree with you, the idea of ruining that huge surprise is a bummer, but, it's more of a 'hah, they're running around in space as a family and none of them know that they're related', and when Luke finds out, you see his realization of the situation.

Re:why the new series sucks (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786077)

Take a chill pill, man.

Are you referring to spoilers such as Luke/Leias origins and the introduction of Yoda?

You can still watch the OT before the prequels, or in my preferred order:

1 ep4 ANH
2 ep5 ESB
3 ep1 TPM
4 ep2 AOTC
5 ep3 ROTS
6 ep6 ROTJ

That way your kids won't be 'robbed' of anything.

Re:why the new series sucks (4, Insightful)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786119)

Robbing a child of this opportunity is a heinous crime

"Robbing"? "Heinous crime"? Are you talking about taking away a child's school education or taking away some minor plot twists in a sci-fi movie?

Heinous crime? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786135)

You will never have the opportunity to relive the moment of truth at the end of Empire, or learn about the twins in Return of the Jedi. It will all be a foregone conclusion. Robbing a child of this opportunity is a heinous crime...

Your threshold of what constitutes a 'heinous crime' is a bit low. I would reserve that phrase for something like forcing a child into slavery (sexual or otherwise), not eating for three days, or having access to any type of medical care whatsoever.

Guys, get a grip. Yeah, the prequels suck, but let's put things in perspective. This is why the rest of the world hates us. A 'heinous crime' for an American child is watching a movie they already know the ending of. A 'heinous crime' for a child in a third world country is a different thing entirely.

I know what I'd be thinking... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785961)

"What happened to everybody's madd light saber skillz???"

Ah ... (3, Funny)

SpooForBrains (771537) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785965)

"Why are red leader and gold leader the leaders? They don't know what they're doing..."

A question many of us have been asking ourselves ever since *we* saw it the first time ...

Re:Ah ... (5, Insightful)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786004)

"Why are red leader and gold leader the leaders? They don't know what they're doing..."

Point men... Expendable. Call them "heros" or "leaders" or whatever it takes to get them to fly in front, or detect land mines, or draw out the enemy fire, or whatever suicidal thing you want them to do.

Re:Ah ... (1)

nyekulturniy (413420) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786183)

Combat attrition. The Rebellion, like the Japanese and Germans in World War II, had to keep their best fighters in combat. This caused a toll on experienced leaders.

To continue the World War II analogy (after all, the attack scene in Ep. 4 was loosely based on "The Dam Busters" and other WW2 flicks), there would tend to be 4 to 8 percent losses in each sortie for a squadron. Ten sorties could mean as much as an 80% turnover. The Red and Gold squadron leaders could have been mediocre pilots who were made squadron leader on the basis of surviving.

It's all about the droids (5, Funny)

Soong (7225) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785971)

"So, does this mean that R2-D2 is really the main character in Star Wars?"

Yep. R2 is truely the most Force attuned of them all. Yoda and the other Jedi may have Midichlorians, but R2 has METAL chlorians! [guitar riff!] Excellent!

Re:It's all about the droids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785995)

There's more going on beneath the dome than meets the eye...

R2-D2 must be a piece of history that all things flux from (in star wars) since he has to do with everything that happens, not to mention how many times he saves people's arses!

Re:It's all about the droids (2, Funny)

Jace of Fuse! (72042) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786007)

R2 has METAL chlorians! [guitar riff!]

Yeah, but George Lucas has MENTAL chlorians!

Re:It's all about the droids (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786048)

No, George Lucas has mental blocks which were given to him by his parents on his sixth birthday. That's how he can ignore the millions of voices that cried out in pain upon the release of Episode I ... and were suddenly silenced.

Re:It's all about the droids (4, Funny)

sdo1 (213835) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786171)

That's how he can ignore the millions of voices that cried out in pain upon the release of Episode I ... and were suddenly silenced

Silenced?

Good question. (5, Funny)

NIK282000 (737852) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785987)

So, does this mean that R2-D2 is really the main character in Star Wars?
Well you could ask Lucas but I doubt he would know.

Hilarious (3, Insightful)

alan_dershowitz (586542) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785991)

A seven year old is more sophisticated watching his movies than George Lucas could muster while actually engaged in writing them. But then, some of us suspected as much, having been exposed to Howard the Duck.

Pity..Spoiled (2, Interesting)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785993)

You can enjoy a production of Hamlet
knowing that the prince goes mad. I don't think
it spoils anything to know the surprise in Empire.

I was not surprised -- not saying I saw it coming, exactly, but it was one of the possibilities that had crossed my mind. I thought it was more likely that Obi-Wan *was* Vader. That was the twist I was expecting. I had a whole argument for it and everything, back then. I was a little bummed to find out I was wrong.

Re:Pity..Spoiled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786036)

Hamlet goes mad?!?!

Re:Pity..Spoiled (2, Interesting)

iamatlas (597477) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786052)

First: Shakespeare compared to Star Wars/George Lucas's writing? Not cool man, not cool. I think thou must be geeked too much ;)


Second, Hamlet doesn't much go mad as act the way a son might if he thought his uncle killed his dad and wasn't sure. (This issue debated endlessly though in Ph.D Dissertations and random other blatherings) Opelia's suicide or Pelonius's accidental murder, now those are things that knowing could spoil, or not, the enjoyment.

Re:Pity..Spoiled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786182)

Damnit...I was 1 hour into Kenneth Branough's 4 hour Hamlet and you have to go and spoil it by telling me Opelia commits suicide. Thanks for nothing.

That seals it (5, Interesting)

portforward (313061) | more than 8 years ago | (#12785996)

When my three year old is old enough to watch the movies, I'll just show him IV through VI and skip the others. Finding out about the family relationsips, (as well as who Yoda is) is just too important, and the whole series suffers way too much. I liked episode III better than I or II, but watching Darth throw out his arms and arch his back screaming "NNNNOOOOOOOOOO" was terrible. As I left the theatre, I thought, "that is the last bit of new Star Wars I'll see. And it ended with a "NOOOOO!!!".

Re:That seals it (1)

Omnieiunium (872399) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786124)

That is right. When our kids are old enough. We will deny that SW Ep 1-3 ever existed. Along with that, why not through in every other crappy sequel ever made. The Matrix triology comes to mind.

Seriously.. the NOOOOOOOOOO spoiled the whole movie.

Re:That seals it (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786127)

And how would you expect to react when finding out that your wife died? By softly whispering, "yes" and then doing the moonwalk?

Storm Troopers? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12785999)

At what point did the Emperor decide that it was time to change Storm Troopers into a zesty new outfit and cut back on the accuracy training budget?

And when did they all get a new accent?

Re:Storm Troopers? (1)

hermit7323 (782172) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786070)

I was under the impression that by that time, all of the clones had died (speed aging, right?), and that the Empire had begun to use normal people. (That Vosson't feller from the Bounty Hunter Wars is an example)

Re:Storm Troopers? (1)

Hogwash McFly (678207) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786080)

Yeah, I was hoping to see a scene in Episode III that showed the old/new suit even if it was just a prototype in the background; it would have been a nice touch.

The new suit is awaiting your appraisal, Emperor.

Re:Storm Troopers? (1)

NMerriam (15122) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786092)

Once the original supply of elite clones was "used up", they enlisted normal people into the stormtrooper corps. The clones were a big one-time order that took years to create, and presumably cost more than just paying some guy to stand guard duty.

Of course, they were still spectacularly bad shots, but that can be somewhat explained by saying they had cheaper, mass produced government contract weapons that weren't as accurate. The rebels tended to use fewer, more precise and powerful weapons, while the empire relied on sheer numbers. Kind of like comparing an AK-47 to an M-16/M-4 in the skill required to effectively use and maintain the weapon on a daily basis.

Re:Storm Troopers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786148)

The more important question is why do they wear armor that can't even take one hit.

Suitability (3, Insightful)

Alphanos (596595) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786002)

Am I the only one who thinks that the Star Wars movies aren't really something that a 7-year-old should be seeing? This isn't some crack about the movies' quality, I'm just thinking that some of the scenes in these movies are very dark and scary for a 7-year-old.

Re:Suitability (1, Troll)

emidln (806452) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786063)

I think I speak for the rest of slashdot when I say that you are alone. Remember the Nightmare on Elm Street series and other slash'em classics? I, like everyone else I know, was watching them at 7 years old. Except for one of my friends whose parent's were Right Wing Christian Nutjobs and she didn't watch anything R rated until she was 16. The kids will be fine. /is right wing and christian, but the people I'm talking about were true nutjobs. Their child is still recovering from brainwashing and might just forgive them after a couple years of therapy.

Just right wing Christians? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786140)

You need to get to out more. You'll find that attitude taken by many Muslim, Jewish, left wing christian nutjobs, and new age liberal, and athiest parents. Probably other groups I haven't had direct experience with as well.

Why am I saying anything? I was raised by left wing christian nutjobs and had friends whose parents filled one of the above categories. Being an over protective parent has little to do with being a right wing christian, and more to do with being a fscking control freak. And control freaks are found in every religious and non-religious group.

Re:Suitability (3, Interesting)

MrP- (45616) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786102)

maybe RoTS but i grew up with star wars

i was born in 82 so i didnt see them at the theater but i remember when i was 2/3 and my mom worked at a local convenience store. They had a ceiling mounted TV and i would watch ANH every night while my mom worked the counter. Now maybe being 2/3 is too young to care but i also watched all 3 when i was 7 and was fine. The only thing that bothered me was that crappy ewok tv movie that i saw once ahh

and i was very sheltered as a child, my parents were really religious and i was their first child and my mom wouldnt let me watch anything bad. I remember watching "you cant do that on television" on nickelodeon, one of the characters said "i hate you" to his mom, my mom banned me from watching that show. I was watching a Care Bears movie once, there was a witch or something who cast a spell while mixing a cauldron. My mom flipped out, yelled at my dad for renting it, cussed out the rental place, and i was never allowed to watch care bears again.

Then my brother was born and she stopped being so crazy and hes been watching R movies since he was real young and cussing like a sailer and whatnot. My first R movie was like Terminator 2 when i was 15.. so if my crazy mom let me watch SW, it must have been ok =P

Re:Suitability (1, Insightful)

kg4czo (516374) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786147)

I think we shield our children way too much here in the US. A 7 year-old can watch a movie with a graphic part in it and not have problems with it, but some people don't realize this and try to "protect them for their own good." I say let them watch the movie if they really want to. It'll be less violent than turning on the news....

Re:Suitability (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786152)

Censored versions of the classics that my parents used to read out to me ta bedtime and Star Wars are some of the best memories I have of childhood.

There are some things that are best kept from kids - they're just not engineered to understand sexual content and too much exposure can screw them up during adolescence while they have to deal with tough new emotions.

But too much has become dumbed down about childhood. All the cool equipment has gone out of the playgrounds. There's no reason to try and shield them from good stories. Seeing Han shoot first was one of my most striking childhood memorie. It made Star Wars stand above the picture book stories we had at school at the same age.

Which links back to that inevitable point to come up in any thread about star wars: while here was some nice candy in episode 3, but it didn't make things right. Lucas has lost sight of the spark that he used to make Star Wars the thing that we loved.

DVD Box Set (1)

coop0030 (263345) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786003)

I am actually very excited for the full 6 episode dvd box set (probably HD DVD/Blu-Ray when it is released). I am going to watch them all in succession. I want to wait a while though so I can see everything like I would for the first time (I forget things easily).

There are some more links in his blog that are very interesting, especially the one that is about Uncle Owen not recognizing C-3PO.

Always in the order written (4, Interesting)

DrRobert (179090) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786005)

I always read things and watch series in the order they were written, not in the order of the books. It is better to watch Star Wars this way, read the Foundation series this way, and just about anything I can think of. In this way you follow the natural creative process of the writer rather than an artificial storyline; you grow with the writer and the story, the last three Star Wars movies certainly don't flow like Lucas wrote them all at the same time, maybe he had a vague treatment...

spoiled? no. (4, Insightful)

MORTAR_COMBAT! (589963) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786008)

It's a pity the end of Empire has been spoiled.

Now instead of surprise it will be irony, as the audience knows what Luke does not. The audience also is left ahead of time wondering why Obi-Wan lies to Luke about his father.

Spoiled? Perhaps, in a way. But also brings up other things which are potentially interesting.

Re:spoiled? no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786088)

The audience also is left ahead of time wondering why Obi-Wan lies to Luke about his father.

He didn't lie, he just spoke in a metaphor. I hate people who do either though.

Children and RotS (4, Interesting)

SpooForBrains (771537) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786020)

Slightly off topic, but this guy mentions that his kid has watched RotS twice (I think it was).

My four year old girl has started expressing a MAJOR interest in all things Star Wars since seeing, for some reason, a Darth Vader poster (I hope that doesn't say something disturbing about her bugeoning subconscious).

I have sat with her and watched A New Hope, which she thoroughly enjoyed, but having seen Sith myself, I think the scene of Anakin's "disfigurement" was a wee bit much for a child of her age, and I don't know how mature this guy's seven year old is, but is ANY child of that age ready for something like that?

Re:Children and RotS (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786050)

i saw many children that age when i saw RoTS the first time, they seemed ok

but they're also probably the same children that their parents take them to R rated movies like kill bill (when i saw that movie for the second time, a family of about 10 went, all below the age of 10.. my god) so thats not saying much, i think it really depends on the child.

you say shes seen ANH, has she seen Empire? RoTS isn't that much worse, except for the disfigurement scene you mention (which for some reason reminds me of gollum.. has she seen the LoTR films?)

you could always wait for dvd then just skip that scene

Re:Children and RotS (1)

SpooForBrains (771537) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786078)

No, just ANH so far. Normal loss of life/limb she can cope with (she's seen plenty of Buffy and she loves the new Dr Who) but that scene was *very* graphic.

I pondered taking her and then asking her to look away at that bit, and she would, but I know that'd make her even more curious. :)

Re:Children and RotS (1)

LearnToSpell (694184) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786168)

A family of about 10 went, all below the age of 10? They're not even breeding properly anymore. Damn these clones! Noooooooooooooooooo!!!

Re:Children and RotS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786086)

usual answer is it depends on the kid.

i would imagine most kids can handle some nasty imagery by the age of 7, so long as it's explained to them in advance that's just pictures and they have a reasonable sense of make believe vs. truth.

might be easier on them to wait for the DVD to come out; seeing gory stuff on a small screen during the day when you can hit pause and talk about it and go have some cookies instead is a lot easier on them than a theater environment. Plus they're used to tv/dvd's being make believe; unless they spend every saturday at the cinema the strange environment might fail to fully activate their budding skepticism.

I call shenanigans (5, Interesting)

AnswerGil (891222) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786022)

This sound like awfully sophisticated thoughts for a 7 year old. Maybe kids have gotten better at understanding these things, or maybe it's a particularly intelligent 7 year old, but I'm doubting this is for real.

Re:I call shenanigans (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786074)

Real Words of a 7 year old regarding the original Star Wars: "This is stupid, I'm bored." You can't really make an article out of that so the writer tried to write something to convey the sense of stupidity and boredom that was expressed.

I agree, this isn't real in the sense that it isn't the thoughts of a 7 year old.

Re:I call shenanigans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786175)

I thought the exact same thing while reading it. This 7 year old is more observant then most adults. Either he's a genius or the guy's pulling a fast one on us.

Bad Acting (4, Insightful)

ndansmith (582590) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786038)

I have noticed that it is en vogue to bash the acting of Star Wars episodes I-III. However, after watching III, I watched IV-VI, and discovered that bad acting is something which plagues the entire series.

Also of note is how much Lucas' writing and directing style have changed. Episode IV is very slow paced compared to III. There is only one light-sabre battle, and it consists of Obi-Wan and Darth walking around calmly while being careful not to break a sweat. Contrast that to III, which has tons of sabre (and other) battles, and it quite fast paced.

Re:Bad Acting (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786081)

I think arthritis set in for Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. Remember they're much older now. Too bad their light saber didn't double as a walking stick.

Re:Bad Acting (1)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786082)

I have noticed that it is en vogue to bash the acting of Star Wars episodes I-III. However, after watching III, I watched IV-VI, and discovered that bad acting is something which plagues the entire series.

To varying degrees. Personally, nothing I saw in IV-VI causes quite the pain that the wooden delivery in I-III does.

Re:Bad Acting (1)

jkabbe (631234) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786151)

Oh come on....

"I thought I recognized your *foul* stench when I was brought on board."

We'd be hammering lines like that if they had appeared in Ep I-III and the delivery wasn't any better either.

Re:Bad Acting (1)

MuckSavage (658302) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786083)

Probably because he had a budget of about 10,000 times more than when he made the first movie. And not to mention the whole technology difference 28 years of movie making has seen since then.

Re:Bad Acting (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786133)

I haven't seen ep 3 yet but you have to take things into account here.

100s of Jedi VS 2 Jedi and 2 Dark Jedi/Sith.

Han was trying to keep his ass out of the firing line the whole original trilogy, it's not untill the final one when he stops looking after himself above all others. So they didn't have many full scale wars, because Han avoided them like the plague and hence kept Luke away from them and most the cast who followed either character.

and Lastly, the Jedi are all old and out of training in the trilogy. Yoda can hardly walk, Obi Wan is just an old hermit with a light saber, Luke is a rookie with no real skill (his force powers are the only reason he's a jedi and remember Anakin was OLD for a padawan, so WTF was Luke?). And Vader could hardly breathe let alone fight (watch how he swings wildly all the time, he's got no skills left).

Plus back in that era effects like light sabers were expensive and the less they used them the better.

While we are on the subject. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786089)

I really hate to say this but I don't buy the idea of Anakin Skywalker being redeemed. If you think about everything he was done; killing of Jedi, a room full of 9 year olds, waging war for 20 years, blowing up a planet, etc... Just because the chucked a an old man overboard it doesn't make everything he did alright. Luke should have played Tic-Tac-Toe on his chest with his lightsaber before killing him in the most painful way imaginable.

4-5-6-1-2-3-4-5-6 (2, Informative)

genrader (563784) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786091)

Next time I have the pleasure of showing these to someone for the first time, I am definitely showing them 4-6, then 1-3, then 4-6 again. Spoiling some of the major emotional moments of 4-6 by seeing 1-3 first, ugh.

Zonk and blogging stories (1)

The Hobo (783784) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786096)

Yet again, two on the front page, soon will be compiling links to all his blog-related stories, stay tuned....

That's what I was saying. (2, Interesting)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786110)

'Look... Obi-Wan is pretending he doesn't know R2-D2,'

I recenetly rewatched Episode 4 and was struck with the same thought. I guessed that Obi Wan was just pretending he didn't know R2D2 since he's supposed to be keeping a low profile and Luke obviously knew nothing of Ben's role as a Jedi knight in the Clone Wars.

R2D2 could have had his memory erased, could be reprogrammed as an Imperial spy, ect. So until he saw the message from Leia and knew it was not a trap of some sort, he had to maintain his cover.

Re:That's what I was saying. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786173)

You do realized that he filmed Star Wars first, and then made the other movies?

I find it odd how people try to resolve plot holes with fiction or twisted justification, as if this will somehow make order in the universe. the only people that may have to give this sort of matter any sort of concern is an official comic book writer or someone else publishing something under the Star Wars license. Allow me to explain the real reason: Obi Wan isn't real, and that scene was either somthing Lucas didn't think of or didn't care about.

Oh, and this is nice:

Slow Down Cowboy!

Slashdot requires you to wait 2 minutes between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.

It's been 6 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment

Combined with that fucktarded script-test bullshit, slashdot has achieved a new level of shitiness. Course this will get my post modded down as flamebait or off-topic, but what else am I supposed to do while I sit here waiting for this magical counter to finish it's run? Cram my thumb up my ass?

Let's try again ...

Re:That's what I was saying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12786181)

Obi-Won is also old and senile, and there are a hell of a lot of R2 units. It is surprising that he would n't recognize C3P0 though...

now that he's seen all (1)

harlemjoe (304815) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786114)

now that this kid has seen all from a fresh perspective, which side is he on?

is he childishly rooting for Luke and co, or has he instinctively come to appreciate the case for the empire [weeklystandard.com]?

Spoilers!!! (1)

sdo1 (213835) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786117)

It's a pity the end of Empire has been spoiled

Ah, man! Thanks jerks. You'd think I could get on here without major spoilers. That's almost as bad as the Ken Jennings thing.

Sheesh.

-S

Where is Qui-Gon? (4, Funny)

mre5565 (305546) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786138)

Answer: George didn't think of till it till after the latest re-release of a A New Hope. Don't worry, George will digitally add Qui-Gon and dialog with Obi_wan when the 3D version comes out.

It's all about more money for George.

Vader means Father (2, Interesting)

polar_cap_miner (869070) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786158)

The word vader would be pronounced "FAH-DHER" in most languages of a germanic lineage including Middle-English. FATHER is basically the result of a few hundred years of regional dialect changes. In Afrikaans, Darth Vader would have said "Ek is jou vader (I am your father)". So the big *surprise* in Empire is only to those who speak modern English

Best order (5, Interesting)

darnvader (693357) | more than 8 years ago | (#12786174)

I think the best order dramatically is IV, V, I, II, III, VI. You still get the surprise in Empire, and then treat the prequels as an extended flashback, which adds much more weight to the scenes with Luke, Vader and the Emperor in Jedi.
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