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Gentoo Founder on his way to Redmond

timothy posted more than 8 years ago | from the ms-could-be-the-world's-largest-foss-company dept.

Microsoft 527

Rotworm writes "Recently former founder of Gentoo Linux, Daniel Robbins, has managed to procure employment with Microsoft. Robbins describes his position as "helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects." Seemingly there's no scandals as Robbins managed to finalize the transfer of all Gentoo's IP to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc."

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hmm... (2, Interesting)

rd4tech (711615) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807777)

Any idea what his employment contract may hold?

Re:hmm... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807790)

He's probably going to kill younglings.

Re:hmm... (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807922)

> > Any idea what his employment contract may hold?
>
> He's probably going to kill younglings.

Hmm...

Do I reply with "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" or "It's a TRAP!". Decisions, decisions...

Decisions, decisions, decisions, decisions, decisions [ ... ] decisions! Decisions! I! LOVE! THIS! DISTRO!

Re:hmm... (1)

iibbmm (723967) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807791)

Any idea what his employment contract may hold? A job?

The question was about the riders (4, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807909)

A lot of times, things are "tied" together in contracts between an individual and a large corporation. Commonly, a single employment contract will cover hiring the employee, granting permission for employee to enter employer's premises, granting clearance to trade secrets (and a covenant not to disclose them to third parties without express permission), and granting an assignment or work-for-hire setup for the employer to use any copyright, patent, trademark, or trade secret created by the employee using employer's resources. The trouble comes when employers insist on BS riders such as broad non-compete agreements or broad "all your idea are belong to us" IP-grabs that cover works and inventions developed by the employee entirely using the employee's resources.

Re:hmm... (5, Funny)

XpirateX (691224) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807842)

Microsoft has just released a press release highlighting the new additions being implemented into Windows Longhorn (c). Most notable of these additions is an innovative "package management system" called l-merge. More information soon.

Re:hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807857)

Fuck, now we will have to emerge Longhorn ourselves, which will take even longer.

MS dont give out free lunches... (4, Interesting)

spagetti_code (773137) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808030)

Microsoft dont do anything out of the goodness of their hearts. They are a corporate entity with a fiscal responsibility to their shareholders.

He will be brought on board to continue the MS strategy of embrace, extend (in a proprietary fashion) then replace. MS do not want to support linux in any way, they want to kill it. Dead. Every linux box sold represents money ripped from their pocket.

My guess is that this could be something like:
- get linux to run well on MS virtual machines, so linux can become just an app running under 2k3, and therefore slowely sink into oblivion.
- work on their command line tools [slashdot.org] . Looks like they have finally realised that the {Li,U}n{u,i}x way of providing powerful command line utilities is actually pretty useful (perhaps learned from the struggle [securityoffice.net] when they first tried to convert hotmail to NT :-).

Interesting times ahead.

TRUST HIM? IS HE OPEN MINDED, not just opensource (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808055)

I just hope he can be trusted is all & that he is not some "Linux uber alles" fanatical Penguin type hopefully. Fact is? I see ALOT of that type of behaviour on the parts of many here, and a definite "Anti-Microsoft" attitude. This is NOT isolated to Slashdot either, & tends to pervade alot of other spots online where "penguins" congregate.

Grow up to those like that is all I can say, & have a dose of reality:

Microsoft's NOT going down, or remotely near it. Linux is growing, but has not 'taken over the world' as I have heard tell constantly it would in the last 10 years now or more.

The idea imo? It is the make both families of OS' interoperate as perfectly as possible.

I hope this fellow's a more "open-minded" type, rather than SO pro "OpenSource" minded like what I note above often being seen here in fact. Just so they CAN be made to be more "friendly" to one another (LINUX & WINDOWS).

Re:hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808063)

Who the hell modded this guy redundant? He got first post! That should logically preclude anyone thinking he was being redundant. I modded you up, parent.

Re:hmm... (0, Offtopic)

rd4tech (711615) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808099)

Funny thing with the parent post. See, I'm doing a bit of research at present about /. . The stats can be found on SlashMash.com .

To generate these statistics one has to be pretty familiar with the system. That means reading posts all the time, trying to track different paterns, and I thought I've seen everything, until I'm seeing the FIRST POST MODED REDUNDANT.

I'm leaving to the public and to M2 to figure this one out.

Woah (4, Funny)

NilObject (522433) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807787)

"helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects"

Do they ship cluebats freight? I guess they do now.

Re:Woah (2, Funny)

Qubit (100461) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807991)

"helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects"

Do they ship cluebats freight? I guess they do now.

They're not even giving him a ticket in coach to get out to Redmond? Well, how about that for a warm welcome...

haha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807793)

funny what money can do!

Don't do it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807797)

It's a trick!

When in doubt (3, Insightful)

WebHostingGuy (825421) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807799)

Buy them out.

Is this the beginning of a strategy for Microsoft? Can't beat them, just buy them or the lead developer?

Re:When in doubt (4, Insightful)

xtracto (837672) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807852)

Yes... just like the OSDG bought Trovalds or Google bought Firefox Developer Ben Goodger ...

Free Software is free as in freedom... but it is also free as in beer so these people *really* need to get their green paste from somewhere...

Or, you really did think that those "donations" where enough to live?

Re:When in doubt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808083)

Or, you really did think that those "donations" where enough to live?

I don't know, but the coffee in my Gentoo cup sure tastes bitter today. And my Gentoo thong is pinching me more than usual too.

Re:When in doubt (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807948)

He can still quit. Besides, he already gave his work to the world, didn't he? I say he deserves good compensation from it.

Re:When in doubt (1)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807970)

drobbins hasn't been involved in Gentoo development, much less the lead developer, for quite a while.

Re:When in doubt (1)

EraserMouseMan (847479) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808022)

I don't believe this should be viewed as MS trying to join the Open Source world. MS certainly doesn't want to share it's cash-cow apps (Windows, Office, etc.) and still views Linux as competition. MS already gives out a bunch of it's software though. So maybe they are thinking, "Hey if it's free anyways maybe we can get some good publicity and cheap volunteer labor from just making it Open Source."

Re:When in doubt (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808026)

Microsoft has headhunted the competition before. This is not new for them or anyone else. The only difference here is that MS has a known, powerful, flexible enemy in Open Source. We're like a hydra; cut off one of our heads, two more will (eventually) grow in its place.

Plus, the "change things from the inside" thing isn't new either. The MS Macintosh Business Unit, formerly MS Bay, consisted primarily of Mac shareware and commercial SW developers who had been hired to work on Mac Office and Mac IE. These were guys who thought, ate, drank, and slept "Different." They are the reason Mac Office tends to leapfrog Windows Office in features and overall quality with every release, and also why IE on the Mac didn't suck. Anyway, even these guys ended up chugging the Kool-Aid - when Apple started releasing competitive products (most recently Safari), these guys acted as if it was their God-given right to be the exclusive developers of these types of software, going on record in the Mac press, denouncing Apple for daring to create competing products. Somehow they'd gotten into the MS mindset of expecting that their (MS's) stuff was supposed to be the only stuff around to support the OS, or to be treated as first-class citizens. The difference was that Apple didn't have to support this same opinion.

Back on-topic a bit, I think the gentards have nothing to worry or be ashamed about. Even though he'll probably turn with time, this isn't a pride thing. Maybe he just needs to eat, and wants to use his skills as a means towards that goal (shocking!). Who knows, maybe working for the bad guys really will change them for the better.

Good luck! (5, Funny)

stevens (84346) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807804)

I hope he is successful! I'd sure like to see Windows users have to emerge msoffice2k3 and wait for six days.

Re:Good luck! (1)

stone2020 (123807) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807912)

I love this type of comment everytime a Gentoo story comes up. Isn't Linux capable of multi-tasking?

Latency (2, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808029)

Isn't Linux capable of multi-tasking?

GNU/Linux, *BSD, and Microsoft Windows NT series operating systems are capable of multitasking (use program A on your PC while program B is installing), but the installation process does introduce latency. You can use everything else on your machine, but you can't the package that you're installing from source, whether it be from a tarball, an SRPM, Gentoo ports, or FreeBSD ports, until it's built.

Re:Good luck! (1)

Metzli (184903) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807962)

Wait until it's time to do an XP -> Longhorn upgrade. It's not that Longhorn will be released in 12-18 months, it'll just take that long to get the upgrade going.

Re:Good luck! (4, Funny)

joe_bruin (266648) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807979)

They'll have it, but instead of emerge, the command is going to be called "pirate", and it won't get the source, it will download a binary via eDonkey. The only hard part is bootstrapping it. You have to boot into a DOS disk, set up your network and type "pirate winxp-pro".

Re:Good luck! (1)

DShard (159067) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808001)

While the humor was to deride both microsoft and gentoo I do wish him good luck. I am far more interested in microsoft "playing nice" then I am hoping for their destruction. If Robbins can get microsoft to see that developers are interested in monkeying with all levels of their systems and get them to open up some of them for the hobbyist crowd then I will be the first to applaud his successes. Heck, if he can get them to create a decent CLI tool chain I would be pleased as punch.

WHY? (1)

jefedesign (869140) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807807)

I just can't understand why someone would turn like that. I certainly hope they give him something at night to sleep. What's next.... slashdot being bought out by MS? I for one DON'T welcome our new.... go to hell MS!

Re:WHY? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807920)

Generally a good paying job helps one to sleep better at night.

One day you'll grow up and realize that MS vs. F/OSS isn't a titanic battle between evil and good but just a different licensing philosophy that the vast majority of the world could care less about.

Re:WHY? (1)

soupdevil (587476) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808071)

Generally a good paying job helps one to sleep better at night.

When I was unemployed I slept a lot. It's free, and it's fun, plus you burn fewer calories, so you eat less. now I'm somewhat over-employed, and never seem to get more than 5-6 hours.

PWnd (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807808)

rofl

Frist psot inviting a huge flamewar... all the gentoo fags fapping while their machine is recompiling for weeks for a 0.1% increase in startup time can get on their FORMER lead guy for BAILING OUT and following the COLD HARD CASH at M$ that the gentoo luser base will never, ever provide. THere goes the Open Sores SPIRIT and COMMUNITY... haha, fuck all that, gimme monies!

YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807809)

all your open source visionaries are belong to ms.

Sweet Job! (5, Funny)

TheSolomon (247633) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807810)

Man I wish I had his job. "OpenSource projects: Opposite in every way from Microsoft. Now where's my paycheck?!" =)

Dr Who (5, Funny)

lkcl (517947) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807812)

is anyone here concerned about the parallels with the latest episode of Dr Who?

the game-shows where losers are beamed up to the Dalek Mothership?

EXTERMINATE!
EXTERMINATE!

Re:Dr Who (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808017)

If I wasnt so lazy to register, Id have given you all my mod points.

1 good Dalek reference is worth 10,000 Yakovs.

Open Source Ambassador (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807813)

Good job, Dan, spread the good word on the MS campus!

power (1)

hhawk (26580) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807822)

This is only a good thing in as much as Redmond need more prospective.. Assuming he runs Linux at his Desktop it will not be the first 'Nix box there.. nor the last..

What is the state of the OSS Movement these days? (1)

Real World Stuff (561780) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807827)

What with the assimilation of Daniel Robbins' Gentoo "I'm helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects." and the hiring of Bruce Perens at a marketing firm [sourcelabs.com] , who will carry the F/OSS flag for the little guys? I look to RMS and ESR to maintain their positons of power and be the bastions of hope for me as a contributing developer to various F/OSS projects. We are losing our focus as a group and need a strong leader to rally around during these turmultuos times.

Re:What is the state of the OSS Movement these day (1)

NineNine (235196) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808016)

Well, there's never been a very good or charismatic Open Source Leader. RMS and ESR are both as nutty as fruitcakes, and Bruce Perens is nothing but a media whore (similar to Jesse Jackson). I think OSS would GREATLY benefit from one or a small handful of charismatic, intelligent leader(s). First, let's see if a leader for OSS crops up.

Once that's settled, it's time for looking for a leader for a real policial revolution...

Borgs Are Here... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807829)

Looks like someone got assimilated into the Collective. Hmmm... Where do I sign up? :P

Linuxsoft (3, Funny)

Rotworm (649729) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807830)

And thusly we see the beginning of taking over Microsoft by getting on the inside, one at a time.

traitor? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807831)

How many narrowminded linux biggots do you think will scream how this is a betrayal?

Ever considered subversion as a tactic to win rather then an all-out confrontation?
Chip away at the big wall one bit at a time and eventually it will crumble. doing the same from within the wall only hastens the end result

Wow, what a short article (2, Interesting)

craXORjack (726120) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807839)

I RTFA but it was redundant!

Seriously, I hope he didn't accept low pay with the promise of stock options like a lot of Microsoft employees have in the past. The day of the Microsoft made millionnaires is over.

Re:Wow, what a short article (1)

soupdevil (587476) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807879)

The day of the Microsoft made millionnaires is over.

Not really. Now you just work there for 40 years, 25K a year. Voila! Millionaire.

ok (1, Insightful)

SQLz (564901) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807843)

Its 2005, MS is hiring people to 'help them understand open source'. There has to be some HUGE f**ing idiots working there.

Re:ok (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807910)

Understanding your enemy is always the first step in waging a war. Microsoft understand money - using it to get inside the head of a Linux guru is simple.

Uhhh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807999)

Yeah huge fucking idiots that managed to create the largest software company in the world and the world's richest man. God I wish i was huge fucking idiot, maybe then i can amass a $50 billion net worth.

Re:Uhhh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808057)

Yeah

They are so stupid that they are learning about their competition...

That sounds real dumb alright

Re:ok (5, Insightful)

Martin Marvinski (581860) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808046)

Its 2005, MS is hiring people to 'help them understand open source'. There has to be some HUGE f**ing idiots working there.
No, what they are trying to do is to break up the opensource community by hiring all the top talent. If they hire the top leaders and put them in project s that never see the light of day, then they don't have to worry about them as competitors to MS. It is worth the million or two in salary to get a top guy. The get the facts ad campaign probably is less effective than buying the top guys out.
MS has a history of doing it. They hired away all the top talent at Borland. They hired COM guru Don Box, which in my opinion was to get him on board with .NET.

borg (1)

fearanddread (836731) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807849)

Ah, the Bill Borg icon is oh so appropriate today.

jk. It can't hurt to have an evangelist on the inside. Hopefully he won't get frustrated and quit within a month.

Kamikaze (2, Insightful)

Bifurcati (699683) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807860)

"helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects."

I think Microsoft already understand Open Source projects - and, quite obviously and unsurprisingly, they don't like them. Justifiable from a business perspective, crap from (almost) everyone else's perspective, and I have trouble seeing what change he could bring in Microsoft.

Unless of course he's got several kilograms of TNT strapped to his chest when he has his first meeting with Bill :)

Former Founder? (4, Insightful)

Iffy Bonzoolie (1621) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807862)

"Recently former founder of Gentoo Linux[...]"

How can someone be a former founder? Once you found something, that's it, you always will have been the founder, right? I mean the Founding Fathers of America aren't the Former Founding Fathers - they are still the Founding Fathers even though they are all dead, and don't take much of an active interest in the affairs of the country anymore.

-If

Re:Former Founder? (1)

shadowarts (741285) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807949)

What are you talking about the founding fathers are locked in my basement. Oops! The consipiricay is out!

Re:Former Founder? (5, Informative)

cybersavior (716002) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808009)

Gentoo founder and former Gentoo Chief Architect Daniel Robbins began a new position at Microsoft on 23 May 2005.

Just an incorrect paraphrasing from the original article.

This is bad (5, Insightful)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807865)

I wouldn't mind this if Microsoft used this help to "understand opensource better and collaborate with it"

Microsoft is not going to do that. They want to know everything about open source because the want to compete with it, ie: beat us. It'd be nicer if Microsoft used this help to collaborate with opensource better, opensource things, etc etc.

Re:This is bad (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808032)

They want to know everything about open source because the want to compete with it

Oh, come on man, you do not need to hire anyone to "know everything about Open Source"... it is WHY it is open source, it is FREE for EVERYONE (yes, even for Microsoft), you just have to go to sf.net, read some wikis etc... it is all there...

If Microsoft wanted to know Everything about OSS they just have to put a bunch of their monkeys^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hengineers to make deep research into open source...

Re:This is bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808040)

I can't believe this is true. Microsoft doesn't want to collaborate with open soruce??? They want to beat it??

Now you're just saying nonsense.

You're not the smartest tool in the house are you?

Well, Hell froze over last week... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807867)

What with the whole Apple and Intel thing, do you think there's any risk/chance of Microsoft going FOSS on us? Maybe a kernel based on BSD?

I'd still call it a long shot, but like I said, Hell *did* freeze over last week :)

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In other words (1)

mcc (14761) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807869)

In other words

helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects

PR

Re:In other words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808069)

PR + marketing.

In the sense that PR is for getting
people from the outside world, to buy in to your product,

marketing in the sense that he gets buy in from product managers inside Microsoft on new projects and ways to "community source" existing products.

marketing and lawyers are really what run a company the size of Microsoft. Not Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer. Every decision related to the core products of value (MS Windows and MS Office) has to be vetted by a team of technical lawyers, because they are being so closely scrutinized now.

Gentoo rhymes with... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807874)

Count Dooku

who left the jedi order to go to the dark side...

Anakin (5, Funny)

srobert (4099) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807880)

In a related story, Anakin Skywalker is serving as an aid to Senator Palpatine to help him understand the Jedi council.

Yikes!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807913)

drobbins is going to kill our children??

Re:Anakin (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808056)

More seductive the dark side is!

Alternate pathway (4, Insightful)

Adrilla (830520) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807887)

If Microsoft truly wants to get in touch with the Open Source community, why remove Robbins from it completely. I think they would do better to make him a paid freelance consultant. I believe that once he's gone to "the dark side" in the community's eyes, he'll never be able to look at the movement from an insider's point of view again. But now, MS will have taken a big player away, and as I see it, they're simply killing of bit of competition and will use this knowledge to kill more. But then again, I see MS as not wanting OSS to exist at all. I believe a more faith based relationship will have been developed between MS and the OS community if they had gone the consultant route, allowing Robbins to continue to develop there, but keep MS abreast of what's going on and how they could coexist more peacefully or even intermingle.

Isn't this... (2, Interesting)

Teh_monkeyCode (752769) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807888)

Isn't this the guy who said that all the profits from the Gentoo Store were going to the Foundation when it actually went to him?

Re:Isn't this... (2, Interesting)

Tsugumi (553059) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807946)

Dunno. Definitely the guy who ended up thousands of dollars in debt trying to get a distro made though. I donated through the store in the hope that it went directly to drobbins...

Re:Isn't this... (5, Informative)

papercrane (817404) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808095)

He took some (all?) of the profits in order to offset his personal cost starting Gentoo. The Gentoo Foundation and the developers all agreed to it because of everything he'd done. I think it's perfectly fine, myself. He lost thousands starting Gentoo.

hrm (1)

St. Arbirix (218306) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807889)

They say there's some new python runtime-doodad Microsoft has that's incredibly fast. Besides the organizational things this guy managed to bring ports to Linux via a Python program.

MSPortage maybe?

Imagine future versions of Visual Studio (that's their compiler, right? never compiled anything on Windows since i'm poor) coming with a version of portage that yanks down all the OSS that'll compile on Windows.

Wouldn't *that* be interesting?

former founder? (2, Funny)

xluserpetex (666816) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807892)

Recently former founder of Gentoo Linux, Daniel Robbins... so he traveled back in time and had someone else found it instead?

and yet another reason (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807897)

Not intended to be flamebait, but I'm sure it will be. As a long time Gentoo user, this actually gives me pause. Both that someone who created his own linux distro would actually cross over to the Microsoft world, and the fact that Gentoo has gotten worse since he left. That and....well, let's face it, Gentoo wasn't that great when he was there either.

It was nice to start with, and it has plenty of bonus points it brings to the table. But the devs NEVER pay attention. Masking dependancies for programs that are unmasked, failing to actually check to see if the ebuilds even work, and let's not go into masking items such as spamassassin and leaving them masked with NO reason as to why.

I've been spending the last 6 months beginning the process of migrating away from Gentoo due to the fact that it's quirkiness has become a bit of a problem, but now. This makes me wonder just a bit more about what's going on...and for how long it's been going on. Kind of makes you wonder if he didn't have something like this in mind all along.

It's gonna take them a while... (2, Funny)

Tsugumi (553059) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807914)

The scene, drobbins standing in front of a bunch of expectant microsoft execs, all with their own pc.

"Today, class, we're going to learn about kde..."

...Two days and several thousand lines of gcc output later...

"Err, Mr Robbins sir, is this going to take much longer? I gotta go pee"

BENEDICT ARNOLDS OF THE OPEN SOURCE MOVEMENT + 1 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807916)

  • Marc Andreessen made 100s of millions of dollars shortly after graduating from UIUC. Today's graduates of the same university face moving back in with their parents. "Fuck that, I got mine!" [nytimes.com]
  • Brian Behlendorf decided he'd rather go to India [salon.com] to recruit software engineers than help out the graduating classes of 2001-2004 here in the US.
  • Robert Malda stood idly by and said NOTHING while his company offshored its flagship product [vasoftware.com] .
  • Linux Lab [com.com] set up shop in Bangalore!
  • Daniel Robbins decided to sell out his open source compatriots by taking a job with Microsoft in Redmond, Washington!

Miguel de Icaza, Bruce Perens, Eric Raymond, and Linus Torvalds all got rich off the Open Source Movement. What do you have to look forward to?

Confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807926)

Is Gentoo now considered evil?

NOOOOOOOOO! (2, Funny)

Klync (152475) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807928)

Daniel! You were supposed to be the chosen one!

Re:NOOOOOOOOO! (1)

macaulay805 (823467) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808006)

He is, its just that sience there is only one Microsoft and several Linux distros, he has to kill 'em all and leave one left. It brings the OS Community back into Balance.

Blasphemy (1)

Joey Patterson (547891) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808038)

Deleted scene from Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith:

[after Daniel kills Tux the Penguin]
Daniel Robbins: What have I done?
Supreme Chancellor Gates: [in Emperor voice] You're fulfilling your destiny, Daniel.

Microsoft uses PPC, Apple uses Intel, now this ? (5, Funny)

javaxman (705658) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807950)

It's official, we've crossed over into the Bizarro World.

Shock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12807992)

I wonder if the lack of comments modded up to 5 is a result of widespread shock, or just disbelief?

I used to say that I sold my soul.. (1)

BerntB (584621) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807996)

When I took a job a few years back, I used to say that the bad news was that I had sold my soul for money.

The good news was that I got paid more than it was worth!

I hope it is not applicable here.

(As it turned out, it wasn't so bad to be a consultant doing Windows. I didn't even have to lie. The main problem was my health... which I'm certain was a totally unrelated problem. Very certain. I think.)

Insert here (0, Redundant)

beforewisdom (729725) | more than 8 years ago | (#12807997)

Insert the obligatory joke/analogy to Anakien Skywalker/Darth Vader and/or Star Trek Borg assimilating dude here_______

Translation: (1)

HockeyPuck (141947) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808011)

"helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects."

Translation: MSFT is paying me more money than g-d to jump up and down "Balmer Style" yelling Open-Source Open-Source...

Bloody Traitor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12808014)

MS sucks in another traitor. Filthy whores. My momma always told me to stay away from hookers, but Bill Gates like to gather them, fuck them and make them into bots. Next thing you know this fruitcake will be going "Linux is okay, but Microsoft is the best."

Fucking traitor.

I'm assuming... (1)

vergil9801 (891895) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808024)

I'm assuming Daniel is still the founder of Gentoo, regardless of his current employment status and relationship to the Gentoo project...

I wish him well (5, Interesting)

overshoot (39700) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808037)

Dude put some good work into a fine distro, sorry he couldn't make a living at it. I'll never knock anyone for keeping the family fed.

Anyone else notice that this isn't the first ABQ->Redmond migration for a "distribution" founder?

next thing you know... (1)

Moustache N Tits (828608) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808100)

... we're going to be hearing about how Longhorn will no longer have "emerge" in it, and it will be a patch to come out a year later...

Quick, we can still rescue him! (4, Funny)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808112)

We'll cut the armed convoy off at SR-520 when they cross the floating bridge across Lake Washington and free him! I'll go rent a canoe down next to Husky Stadium and we'll rendevous at the traffic jam near the wind sculptures and set him free, then we'll transport him to the Arboretum and escape via the Museum of History and Industry parking lot in a small biodiesel VW car a friend of mine has.

Who's with me?

A small daring group is all it will take to rescue the founder of Gentoo - with luck on our side, skill, daring, and the element of surprise, we should be able to pull this off before the Empire gets him into Darth Gates compound!

He hasn't transfered IP, domain names etc. yet (2, Interesting)

justrob (445616) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808119)

"Seemingly there's no scandals as Robbins managed to finalize the transfer of all Gentoo's IP to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc."

This isn't true. He has agreed to, if his lawyer approves the deal, but we are still waiting for him to transfer all IP and the domain name gentoo.org

Here is the Gentoo Not-for-profit mailing list archive and you'll see there is no mention of it yet.
http://archives.gentoo.org/ml/gentoo-trustees/ [gentoo.org]

Helping Microsoft to understand^Hmine Open Source (1)

DrJimbo (594231) | more than 8 years ago | (#12808121)

But Mr. Drobbins we have your digital signature here on a pdf document that says you came here to help us undermine Open Source and community-based projects.

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