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Nothing to see here (0, Troll)

glassjaw rocks (793596) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823582)

I guess sony doesn't want anybody to know about this exploit ;-)

Re:Nothing to see here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823702)

Sony doesn't care, it will just hold you ransom Firmware 1.51 already fixed it (reports of new PSPs with 1.51 built-in have already surfaced) and Firmware 1.52 is current for Japan. And all the newer cool games that technically run perfectly under 1.00 and 1.50 will have a version checker built-in that says "You need to upgrade to 1.52 in order to play this game."

While this is a major boost to the homebrew community stateside & in canada, it isn't the Holy Grail yet.

PS I bought a new PSP at FutureShop today and it was 1.50 (phew!)

Wow (1)

nathanmace (839928) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823599)

First post, and the site is already down. I wonder how long it will take benchmarks to show up that show how well the PSP runs various emulators?

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823896)

Don't give the slashdot effect too much credit. The website (and the mirrors) seemed pretty bogged down well before this story was published.

knock knock! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823604)

Who's there?

Sony and the DMCA.. HAHA HA HAHAHAHA... *blank stare*


Better Exploit (-1, Troll)

SuperJason (726019) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823606)

Is there an exploit that allows me to get a PSP with little or no money? That would be much more useful for me.

They're pretty small (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823729)

I'd say go to a store and shove one up your ass.

Re:They're pretty small (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824084)

ten bucks says the guy who modded that funny was the AC...

Re:They're pretty small (1, Funny)

zulux (112259) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824632)

I'd say go to a store and shove one up your ass.

Don't do that!

Angry, your Yoda doll will make!

Proprietary (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823625)

It's unfortunate Sony chose to use the proprietary flash memory technology known as Memory Stick. And it costs more, too. For this alledged "hack", you'll need two of them. And it lets you make programs for a device that pseudo-DVD video discs are being sold to parents ripping off their kids. Can't even handle 480p resolution. No excuse.

Re:Proprietary (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823990)

there's is nothing "alledged" about this hack, it works. Also you don't need 2 2GB memory cards! any size will do, so get a 1GB for ur "hacking" and 32MB (For $10) to do the exploit. quit moaning. There's no pleasing some people.

#psp-dev on efnet for discussion on hack (4, Informative)

traid (679779) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823632)

There has been a lot of chatter this morning about the hack and how to use it effectively. Check out #psp-dev on efnet.

Nope. No. I don't think so. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824047)

No, I will not check :#psp-dev. Unlike you, I do not live of my parents, I work for a living. Go back to your beer and hacked games. It's no wonder India is walking all over us, what with drunk stoned idiots like you.

Still Waiting (2, Funny)

Keystroker (884765) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823641)

This is nice and all but I'm waiting for the development of blank, writeable UMD disks. Anyone with me?

ME!!!! I'm with you!! (0, Redundant)

StarCharter (768335) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824485)

I'd give a bunch for the ability to write UMD disks. I keep hoping that someone will come out with a service to do this.

I got it to play Doom III (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823650)

I stuck a paperclip down the slot and shorted the damn thing out. The levels are particularly dark, but the load times are now instantaneous. I just can't seem to get the PSP to do anything else which is a bit of a downside.

Re:I got it to play Doom III (3, Funny)

b1t r0t (216468) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824033)

Sounds like you need to install the flashlight hack. Just tape a flashlight to the back of your PSP and you're ready to rock!

Article Text (5, Informative)

everphilski (877346) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823655)

Update: Many people seem disappointed that it's a swap hack. Personally I don't have any problem with it as it works great. We at PSP Hacks give our thanks to the PSP-Dev team for discovering and providing this exploit. For those who are having difficulty getting it to work, follow these simple steps:
1. Download any homebrew app/game
2. Load up the MSwap Tool
3. Select the EBOOT.PBP you wish to use
4. Select an Output directory
5. Click "Generate files"
6. You're now left with two directories - MS1 and MS2
7. Copy the EBOOT.PBP from the MS1 directory to your first memory stick (MS) - X:\PSP\GAME\
8. Remove the first MS and insert the second
9. Copy the EBOOT.PBP from the MS2 directory into X:\PSP\GAME\"
10. Remove MS2 and insert MS1
11. Go to the Game menu on your PSP and select Memory Stick
12. Select the PSP-Dev Launcher
13. The moment PSP logo screen comes on, swap memory sticks
14. Vola! You're playing homebrew on your 1.50 PSP!

Re:Article Text (4, Informative)

sjf (3790) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823705)

To make things a bit easier, I've found that you only need to create the MS1 stick once. That is, once you have the special EBOOT.PBP on the first memory stick, you don't need to recreate it every time you change the EBOOT.PBP on MS2. Obviously, the file on MS1 will report the wrong name, but whatever is on MS2 still boots. Tested with the PCEngine, GB emulator and the SNES emulator.

PSP & Chinese Military (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823732)

The Sony PlayStation contains critical computer technology. We would do well to ban its export to China [phrusa.org], for Beijing is aggressively trying to upgrade the computer infrastructure of the Chinese military.

A cluster of Sony PlayStations stitched together by Beowulf equates to a supercomputer with the horsepower to simulate nuclear blasts. Should we allow Beijing to access such critical computer technology?

Re:PSP & Chinese Military (1)

Cyn (50070) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823993)

Would you rather they create the nukes then test them to determine how well they'll work?

If you're going to troll, at least do so intelligently. Complain about them cracking encryption or something with that horsepower.

Original Site (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823664)

Original site - http://www.ps2nfo.com/ [ps2nfo.com]

No click on purpose. And AC as I have enough karma.

Parent is WRONG - bad site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12825012)

PS2nfo was not the 'original' site, no matter how much they'd like you to think that. They just reported on it. They're a scam site.

I wonder if... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823668)

I wonder if we will see some kind of TSR to avoid the hassle of having to swap memory sticks every time you want to run a program.

Re:I wonder if... (1)

Hoch (603322) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824877)

Yes we will. Programs can already be written to load in kernel mode, so a kernel patcher is possible, and writing to the flash works as well. Just a matter of time till the swap trick is a one time deal.

Good news!... Kinda. (2, Interesting)

ChibiLZ (697816) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823669)

I was really excited about this, until I read that it's a swaploit... some people are having it work no problem, but some people are having troubles getting it to load, having corrupted data on their mem sticks, etc.

However I have to take my hat off for the guys that worked this out. Let's hope everyone in the PSP hacking scene keeps up the good work, because I'd love to play some old classics on my PSP.

Also cheers to the poster for putting mirrors in the post. :)

Re:Good news!... Kinda. (3, Funny)

insert cool name (889389) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823834)

I was really excited about this, until I read that it's a swaploit

So you got excited over the "Sony PSP 1.50" part of the title, took a short rest then got all down after you'd chugged through the last couple of words?

It's kind of worrying though that it's considered normal to have to resort to some sort of hack to run the code you choose on a programmable device that you own.
Anyone ever wonder what the world would be like if we'd all grown up with BBC Micros, ZX Spectrums, Amigas etc that only ran code someone else had approved?

Re:Good news!... Kinda. (1)

ChibiLZ (697816) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824389)

Well, there's been news for the last few days that an exploit for the 1.5 firmware was coming out today... no details on how. Now we know the how, so I'm not as excited.

I understand that a lot of hacks require a trick, a dab of solder, or some other hackaround. I just really hate swaptricks ever since the PS1 days. Timing it was a pain back then, and I hear it's even trickier now. I have fat fingers and MS Pro Duos are tiny.

I agree, though, about devices that only run approved code. That's why I prefer to 'hack' my devices. Even though I really don't pirate much, I like having the option to run homebrew or out of region games.

Re:Good news!... Kinda. (2, Informative)

TommyBear (317561) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824915)

Make sure you don't use the tool supplied but rather use the manual method described in the PDFs. The tool is known to corrupt the data.

Homebrew? (1, Funny)

LightningBolt! (664763) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823676)

It appears that the folks over at PSP-DEV have created a swap trick for your PSP 1.50 to play your homebrew applications.

You misspelled "pirated".

Re:Homebrew? (0, Redundant)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823779)

i know you're kidding, but for thsoe who take things literally...

There are no pirateda pplications.

Just applications tha tlet you play pirated games for other consoles 3

Re:Homebrew? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823785)

TROLL! Commercial games taken from UMDs --> WILL NOT WORK WITH THIS! --

Programs like pspChess, and SNES emulator, etc. will work.

Slashdot requires you to wait 2 minutes between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.

It's been 6 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment


Come on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824442)

Why do you think people are really working on this?

I really doubt that just running homebrew, emulators, and Linux were and are the only reasons they are working on these hacks.

Re:Homebrew? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823798)

Cool... Linux is a pirated application.

I can't think of a single instance where a handheld was modified/exploited to run linux, or a game console was modified/exploited to run linux, or a greeting card was modified/exploited to run linux...

Time to reload Windows Mobile 2003 on my Ipaq and re-image the hard drive on my X-Box. I wouldn't want to hung from a yard-arm by the Navy. ARRRRR!

Re:Homebrew? (4, Informative)

Formula420 (836234) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823848)

Actually, at this point, it is still impossible to play pirated PSP games off the memory stick. This swap trick will only work with homebrew apps and emulators, as they are in .PBP format. All the UMD dumps that have surfaced are in .iso format.

It is a step in that direction though....

just make master keys... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823701)

"I don't enable CAR THEFTS, I just make master keys that people with lost car keys can use, and drop them in phone booths on MLK Blvd. If you want to use them for stealing cars, how is that my fault?"

Re: just make master keys... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823875)

As a homebrew developer, I shall ask you to shut up. I hate those "DRM-like" arguments... If I want to play my own games on my console, why wouldn't I have the right to create such a hack ? What do I care about pirates ?

Re: just make master keys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824170)

Taking your car analogy; you bought the car but the carmaker is the one who decides on what roads you can drive it. Unfortunately, they are all toll roads.

Buddy who knows his way around roads and tarmac etc. built his own road, and he'll let you drive on it for free. At first his road was a dirt track, then a bumpy paved road and now it's getting pretty smooth. But to get on this road, you'll have to put the car in reverse, brake, put it in 2nd gear quickly, then go.

Are you telling Buddy that you won't because the carmaker wants you to use just their toll roads?

Re: just make master keys... (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824331)

No but the carmaker gets to decide which shops you can have it repaired at.

Property rights (1)

Migraineman (632203) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824642)

If you manufacture cars, and I purchase one, your authority to dictate how it's used ends when I sign on the dotted line. If I see fit to drive immediately to a junkyard and have it crushed into a small-but-expensive cube, that's my prerrogative. You can't say or do diddly-squat (legally,) no matter how much my behavior cheeses you off.

The console manufacturers are attempting to circumvent property ownership rights by implementing DRM in the name of "anti-piracy." While that is one aspect of what they're doing, the real issue is about control. The console manufacturers want to control the distribution channel, all the way up to your wallet. They want a piece of every game and accessory sold for the console, and DRM is a way of killing off the competition. Unauthorized applicaitons don't generate revenue for the parent company, so they're going to try to kill them off through draconian legislation.

If anything, these PSP hacks should be viewed as an act of civil disobedience. They're necessary to highlight the crummy laws that have been purchased by Big Corporations.

Re:Property rights (1)

bman08 (239376) | more than 8 years ago | (#12825004)

It's possible that the control you're talking about is actually an illegal trust. Similar to the way that movie studios were found in violation of the Sherman act for owning the theatres that ran their movies exclusively.

The hilarious thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823731)

The hilarious thing is how Sony went absolutely crazy out of their way trying to prevent their system from being piracy-friendly, and the only result is going to be the most piracy-friendly video game system of its kind (portables) on the market right now. Just like with the XBox

Re:The hilarious thing (1)

0kComputer (872064) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823792)

If swapping memory sticks during boot is piracy friendly i'd hate to see what isn't.

Re:The hilarious thing (1)

prionic6 (858109) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823970)

Allowing standard user-writable medium in the first place IS pretty piracy friendly. Using only proprietary stuff or at least reasonably protected stuff wouldn't be.

Re:The hilarious thing (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824358)

Manufacturing custom flash memory that fits into the system's proprietary cartridge slot?

Re:The hilarious thing (1)

OrenWolf (140914) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824800)

A proprietary memory slot that you can buy a reader for for $3, you mean? Or, even better, that you can write to VIA the PSP?

Compared to, oh, say, the memory cards of a PS1/PS2, I'd say that's pretty darned accessible!

1.50 Only (5, Informative)

technoMyst (775181) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823759)

Just a note, this hack only works on the firmware version 1.50, which shipped with the PSPs. Sony has since released two updates, 1.51 and 1.52, and the hack does not work on either.

I'm guessing Sony is going to repeat what they're doing in Japan with the version 1 firmware homebrew hack: make new legit games check and force the firmware updates.

Re:1.50 Only (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823808)

Yes BUT if you are not plugged into an outlet a game will not install the firmware update :) Sony does not want to be responsible for bricked PSP's when the battery died.

Re:1.50 Only (1)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823884)

Well, I didn't see one, but most cellular phones can check battery charge level, I don't see why PSP shouldn't - and then install the update if only the batteries can last next 15 minutes :P

Re:1.50 Only (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824561)

Charge level does not alway equal time left. How many laptop batteries out there go from full charge to dead in 10 minutes? I'd want to rely on the charger for this no matter how confident I am in the battery.

Besides, we are wanting to avoid the firmware update in the grandparent's suggestion.... the update breaks the hack

Re:1.50 Only (1)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824855)

Well, we want to discuss Sony options. And how many cellphones (still in use) go from full charge to dead in 10 minutes? If the PSP battery goes dead way faster than indicated, the unit should be replaced anyway, dead firmware or not.
I wonder what would be the chance for releasing cracks for PSP games, so they wouldn't install the upgrade. Or hacking the hardware, so you can override any firmware upgrade anyway.

Re:1.50 Only (1)

technoMyst (775181) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823911)

I know that they do it in Japan for online games. Everyone has a charger, they have to charge at some point.

Doesn't matter (1)

Vermifax (3687) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824965)

Installing the update is a manual process regardless of what power source you're plugged into.

In other news.. (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823801)

Expect the 1.6 BIOS to fix this, and be mandatory to run new commercial games.

Re:In other news.. (2, Insightful)

iapetus (24050) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824507)

Um. Welcome to last week - 1.51 and 1.52 already do this, and I believe they're already mandatory for some of the latest Japanese releases, though I could be wrong on that.

Waste of effort (4, Insightful)

picz (264520) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823847)

It is amazing. The programmers at Sony are wasting their time to prevent other programmers to program for PSP and the PSP programmers waste their time trying to hack the PSP.

This is stupid. All that creativity could be used for some cool apps. /picz

Re:Waste of effort (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823892)

Ah...yes...spend your time on those cool apps! Oh, wait, what will I run those cool PSP apps on if I can't run my homebrew? Should I sell my soul to EA to get it "legit"?

Re:Waste of effort (1)

picz (264520) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823981)

The stupid part is Sony trying to keep their gagdet closed. The other guys are just doint what every hacker should be doing. Finding out how stuff works and make stuff run cool stuff. /picz

Re:Waste of effort (2, Insightful)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824557)

No, you should ignore the platform entirely because Sony is (collectively) one giant asshole. Spend your time making cool apps for an open platform instead.

Re:Waste of effort (2, Funny)

Threni (635302) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824078)

> the PSP programmers waste their time trying to hack the PSP.

Yeah, just think, instead of wasting all that time hacking they could be playing games...

Re:Waste of effort (1)

xtal (49134) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824905)

I'll buy two of them the same day I can compile an application - but not before. (looks around at GBAs that seem to be breeding..)

Swap memory sticks? (4, Insightful)

meff (170550) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823852)

This seems highly inconvienant.. I'm not going to play the swap-trick on a car trip or on the bus, it just seems impractical.

Nice work on finding this flaw though, but.. I'll wait until something else comes out that will let me run a homebrew app off of the same memory stick on 1.5*

Note also that Sony will probably be requiring firmware updates with future games, so unless you want to dedicate your PSP to homebrew, you're kinda outta luck until a non-'swaploit' comes out.

We got to find a way to control the firmware on the PSP before much is accomplished.. Reflashing to 1.00 on US units would make homebrew a reality, but then there is the game firmware update issue. To solve this, maybe someone could create a 'grub'/'lilo' type system that could boot firmware 1.00 or 1.5+.

What does this thing do? (1)

NetNinja (469346) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823854)

Ok I went to the website, Maybe I didn't read enough of it.

What does this hack do for a PSP?

Re:What does this thing do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823966)

I didn't RTFA, yet I should know what this hack actually does.

Does this mean I'm going to have to start reading the articles? Not likely. I'll just spend my time trolling.

Freaking *Y&(*& GREAT !@ (2, Funny)

MajorDick (735308) | more than 8 years ago | (#12823922)

I bought a PSP, the DAY they hit the store, for no other reason than to hack into a websurfer for the couch, and for Pseudo PDA type handheld web based dev.
I have waited PATIENTLY for an exploit and began to loose interest, other than using the Wipeout Pure trick to surf the web.
I got so discouraged I let my kids play with it, 8 and 13 and it promptly got knocked off a table by my wife screen breaking,

Last night, (YUP Last Night) I took it apart to try and figure out an alternative screen interface for it, and TODAY This exploit is announced, while mine is in about 10k pieces.....GREAT .......day late and a dollar short...

Re:Freaking *Y&(*& GREAT !@ (1)

torpor (458) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824039)

maybe you wanna post pics to akihabranews [akihabaranews.com], and incidentally, there are replacement PSP screens on the streets of aki-h, so that means you could probably find one on the web ..

Re:Freaking *Y&(*& GREAT !@ (1)

MajorDick (735308) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824222)

I cant even find a Pinout for the Sharp Part number.....

In cool land I dont care if I can even carry it, if I could come up with an adapter and use like a 7 inch screen I would be in Heaven.

Re:Freaking *Y&(*& GREAT !@ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824306)

for no other reason than to hack into a websurfer

Ouch. Brings a whole new meaning to the term "personal firewall."

Re:Freaking *Y&(*& GREAT !@ (1)

Iamthewalrus (688963) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824795)

Just think, if the exploit had been posted yesterday, you would have had 24 hours of running precious swap-tastic homebrew apps before your wife knocked it off the table and broke it.

Re:Freaking *Y&(*& GREAT !@ (1)

TommyBear (317561) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824999)

I got so discouraged I let my kids play with it, 8 and 13 and it promptly got knocked off a table by my wife screen breaking

You know, I know a good divorce lawyer.

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12823980)

...memory stick sales among PSP owners have doubled!

PSP 1.50? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824175)

Good grief, people need to upgrade. I think I was using PSP 3.0 back in the Windows 3.1 days....

Clarification (4, Insightful)

Negroiso (892386) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824272)

A lot of you have complained and complained and complained. Lets not forget that although this is a swap trick, it is however a step in the right direction. To clarify some things that a lot of you are missing

NO EXCEPTIONS, no 1.51 no 1.52

Another thing, on your 2nd memory card it will be reported as "corrupted data" for this exploit to work. There is nothing wrong with the file that's on the 2nd Memory Stick. All of this is listed on the developer's site or in the "tutorial" in the archived files.

Please for the love of bob, give these guys props. I haven't seen any of you guys that are whining give anything to the psp scene besides "we want we want we want". It is being worked on and the hardware will be hacked. As everything else goes this will take a while it's not going to happen over night.

I personally would like to thank all those involved in this release. It sets the grounds for future exploits 1.5x. . ect.

Please READ before posting and saying something doesn't work or you think it sucks for whatever reason.

The point is they worked around it so mission successful.

In other news... New Windows Hack!! (3, Funny)

dnaboy (569188) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824468)

I was able to hack my WinXP box to run linux by using a second hard drive. It was actually quite easy.

1. Pull out the hard drive with WinXP (you should probably do this with the power off, but it's more fun with the power on)

2. Plug in a fresh new hard drive

3. Put in your Fedora install CDs and follow the prompts

4. Play homebrew linux apps on your hacked box (Profit!)

The best part is that if you ever need to use WinXP again, all you need to do is turn it off and swap the hard drives.

I realize this is merely a swap hack, but it's a start. Someday, I hope to be able to make it so I don't need to be pulling hard drives, but that could take til like 1995. We'll see

Re:In other news... New Windows Hack!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824624)

And we realize your an idiot jackass who can't tell the difference between a bios lock prohibiting you from running linux on that second drive...but here's points for forgetting the subject matter dickwad.

A perfect use for memory stick select? (3, Insightful)

bgarcia (33222) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824724)

Remember those memory stick select [amazon.com] sticks? They basically shove two separate memory sticks into a single package, and add a small switch that lets you choose which one to use.

This actually sounds like the one case where that might be preferable to having a regular memory stick.

Re:A perfect use for memory stick select? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#12824962)

If only they made that for the Memory Stick Duo, which is the only one that fits into a PSP.

ah yes, bringing back the swap trick (1)

thanew (829267) | more than 8 years ago | (#12824786)

seems like sony is always vulnerable to this. the original psx and the ps2 both had swap tricks, but of course they really didn't screw up like sega did with the dreamcast. I mean anyone with a cd burner could burn games and play both online (PSO, NFL2k1, etc) and offline. it is only inevitable though that no matter how great the security is, someone will crack eventually.
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