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OMG (4, Funny)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833073)

Hell is freezing over for the fourth time!!

Re:OMG (5, Funny)

macaulay805 (823467) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833081)


In a row?!

Re:OMG (1)

jpmahala (181937) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833134)

would that make it DellHell(tm)?

Re:OMG (1)

BlueHiro (825914) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833136)

The last month has just been unreal. I can't say that I'm unhappy about all the intel/mac changes, I think it will be good for the enduser. But after 10 years of bashing mac's for their hardware, and 4 years of wishing that I could get OS X on my PC,

It all just seems to good to be true......

My question is this, where's the catch? There has to be something we're missing here. They must be planning to screw the consumer in some way...

Surprising, this is not... (4, Insightful)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833148)

Dell and Apple make their money selling pricey hardware, not the OS. (The last time Apple tried fooling around with clones, Umax took it in the shorts. )

So, it's not surprising Dell would offer to sell hardware. It would be surprising to see Apple take the offer.

P.S. The "text in image" thing still sucks donkey balls. (Maybe that should be my sig...)

Re:Surprising, this is not... (2, Informative)

NipsMG (656301) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833245)


You're kidding, right?

If you pay full price for Dell hardware, it's your stupidity, not their price, that makes it "pricey". Just check, or go on and look at Outrageous Deals.

You mean to tell me a P4 2.8Ghz HT, 512 MB Ram, 40gb HD, CD Burner/DVD, + 19inch flat panel is overpriced for $499?!

You're out of your mind.

Re:OMG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833204)

Dell would sell his own mother if she weren't bolted down

So why not... (2, Insightful)

dark-br (473115) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833076)

... to offer GNU/Linux?

Re:So why not... (2, Informative)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833103)

They already do in some of their server lines.

Re:So why not... (3, Insightful)

kclittle (625128) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833140)

A) They could charge for OSX (some for Michael, some for Steve)

B) OSX would be easier to support (sorry, 'sa truth)

C) OSX has a truly superior interface (Linux has, well, an interface...)

D) OSX is cool (Linux is geeky).

Re:So why not... (3, Insightful)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833222)

Two words: customer demand.

They already sell Linux on their servers, because enough customers want it that it makes sense. People want OS X, very few want Linux. If that ever changes, then Dell would offer desktop Linux.

Re:So why not... (2)

miruku (642921) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833248)

because linux sucks for desktops ;P *runs and hides. very very far away*

Other articles (5, Funny)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833078)

Chevy: "We'd love to sell Mercedes"
Apex: "We'd love to sell Marantz"

FP for that ass!

Re:Other articles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833143)

This is totally off topic, but you're aware that since Denon bought Marantz they're just another 'prosumer' device that puts crap in a fancy box, right? May as well buy Sony and save a few dollars...

Re:Other articles (0, Offtopic)

WhiteWolf666 (145211) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833226)

Offtopic, yes.


It's garbage. The stuff *fails* within 3-4 years of purchase.

Out of 6 sony receives purchased within my family, we have a 66% failure rate over 5 years. That's *shocking*.

I don't know about Denon and marantz (heard pretty good things) but my Harmon-Kardon has never gone bad.

Re:Other articles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833263)

It's garbage. The stuff *fails* within 3-4 years of purchase.

I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe I was very lucky, because my Sony GX700ES receiver and CA7ES 5-disc CD player have been working perfectly for 9 years.

Re:Other articles (1)

aonaran (15651) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833172)

I think that's more like

Sony: "We'd love to sell Marantz"

HP/Compaq would be

Apex: "We'd love to sell Marantz"

wut? (1)

floridagators1 (726469) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833080)

Llamaguy smells.

Why? (-1, Troll)

Mad Ogre (564694) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833083)

I'd just put SUSE Linux on the box anyways. Or Linspire. Either one. OS-X is nice, but very much overhyped.

Re:Why? (1)

DaHat (247651) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833147)

Like it or not, more time and success has been had with OS X in making it a user friendly and desktop orientated operating system, the same I fear cannot be said for SUSE or even Linspire for the most part.

Huh? (1, Interesting)

alecks (473298) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833085)

Offer OXS like how? On Dell x86 boxes, or Dell made apple branded hardware, or what?

Re:Huh? (0, Troll)

repruhsent (672799) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833174)

WTF is OXS? I've heard of OSX, but OXS...?


Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833087)

The damage is already done (1)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833091)

I just threw up on my shiny, formerly translucent keyboard. Thanks again, Michael Dell.

WOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833092)

YESSSSSSs.s....sssss.sssss my

Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833094)

Well, I saw this coming a mile away. Now just to see how apple will respond, no?

3 steps (1)

Vertdang (822271) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833095)

Step1: sell MacOSX
Step2: raise prices
Step3: profit!

Re:3 steps (4, Interesting)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833173)

The author speculates also that Apple would probably demand certain specifications. Having OS X would probably require a higher price point--this both Apple and Dell would probably like."
...because price fixing is legal, and has never been challenged by any anti-monopoly/fair trade enforcement division of any government anywhere.

This is the one part of the story that makes no sense. If Apple outright made part of the contract, written, spoken, or implied, that Dell cannot sell a machine lower than a certain price, they would be jumped upon by the EU and US quicker than you can say "unfair competition".

And you can bet that Apple is aware of this, as they've been creatively circumventing these laws for years. Early ads for the Apple II had an asterisk by the price with a disclaimer "from our lawyers" saying that you might be able to buy it cheaper than that. Later techniques included barring sellers from advertising prices lower than those Apple set, a practice that continues to today. Retailers can sell Apple computers for lower than Apple's declared prices, but if they do, they can't advertise those prices (hence Amazon will regularly have a message in the price box saying "Price too low to display. Add to your shopping card to find out how much it costs."

Dell cannot legally be required by Apple to set its prices for a product containing an Apple component to whatever Apple wishes. Dell's retailers cannot legally be required by Apple or Dell to set its prices for a product containing an Apple component to whatever Apple and Dell wishes. The best they'll do is continue with the advertising of prices ban. This may mean Dell doesn't get to bite the Apple. Or it may mean Apple has to be more flexible.

Re:3 steps (1)

Winckle (870180) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833191)

Step4:sell the upgrade of MacOSX Step5:Raise prices further Step6:Profit again

What are the odds (4, Interesting)

thoolie (442789) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833098)

that this is some great scheme by Jobs to re-enter the general PC OS market? I am really wondering if he is planning on getting this stuff out there soley so he can compete with Gates. It could be like the IPod. Get it to your hardcore, let it catch on, and then let other gobble it up for their general purposes.

I really think if they play their cards right, this could be the case.

IBM is getting out of the hardware biz too (1)

hellfire (86129) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833260)

I used to be one of the mac heads who said "Apple will never do that because hardware makes them their money." This is true... at the moment. However, if a huge company like IBM can get out of the desktop PC market, why can't Apple? See just because clones nearly killed Apple doesn't mean someone else can't figure out the right way to change their business model.

Perhaps Steve has the vision to actually pull it off.

Nice title (1, Insightful)

timster121 (820967) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833100)

What does the title mean?

Expanding the contraction, none of the three possibilites make sense

Dell we had Sell Mac OS X Dell we should Sell Mac OS X Dell we would Sell Mac OS X

What am I missing?

Re:Nice title (1)

Peter Cooper (660482) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833128)

It's missing a single colon, or a colon and quotation marks:

Dell: We'd Sell Mac OS X or Dell: "We'd Sell Mac OS X"

But yeah, it's sloppy.

Re:Nice title (2, Funny)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833133)

What am I missing?

The Slashdot grammar manual. Page 74, paragraph 13.

Re:Nice title (1)

Ghoser777 (113623) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833160)

I think they're missing a colon after Dell.

Re:Nice title (3, Informative)

caino59 (313096) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833165)

Not what you're missing, but rather what the poster/editor missed.

I imagine it was to read:

Dell: We'd Sell Mac OS X

(and that's in would, as in will if Apple allows)

was that SO hard to figure out?

damn..i think i just bit a troll...strangely bitter it is...

Re:Nice title (1)

FirstTimeCaller (521493) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833238)

Some punctuation...
Dell: "We would sell Mac OS X."

I can't see this happening anytime soon (3, Insightful)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833101)

Unless or until Apple has an Office killer. The second MS gets wind of an Apple plan to compete with them directly using the same vendors Microsoft Office for Mac is as dead as a doornail.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (2, Insightful)

digidave (259925) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833166)

OpenOffice 2.0 is such a killer. 1.0 was good enough for basic needs, but 2.0 really delivers an exceptional product, including a database app to replace Access.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (3, Insightful)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833220)

OpenOffice will never be an Office killer on OS X until it is a native app.

General business type people won't be willing to use X11.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833225)

You just keep on saying that.

I am sure someone will tell me if I am wrong didn't Open Office stop supporting Mac and stopped at a Xwindows version.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833256)

Have they fixed up the severe interface usability problems with running on OSX? If they have, then if I were particularly nasty and evil, then I would ship OpenOffice installed.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (1)

sgar (859603) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833176)

Why is that? The office division of MS makes more than the OS division by a vast margin last I heard. They're still selling the same number of Office copies whether its on Windows or OS X. Remember, MS is in the business to sell software, and as long as they're still doing that, and turning a profit, they aren't going anywhere.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (1)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833250)

Possibly. But the Mac version of Office doesn't sell anywhere near the volume of the Windows version. If Apple starts partering with general PC OEMs to sell OS X and lots of people like and buy it, MS could stand to lose more from fewer sales of Windows than they would make from Mac Office.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833188)

Well, let's see. Apple has a Word-replacement, and a Powerpoint-replacement. My guess is an Excel-replacement is in the works...

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (2, Interesting)

nukem996 (624036) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833192)

While Apple dosnt OpenOffice does. NeoOffice [] is an OS X version of OpenOffice. I have read countless reports that OpenOffice 2.0 is an office killer, I would not be surprised if Apple bundled this with OS X or made their own Office suite based on it.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (4, Insightful)

soupdevil (587476) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833199)

Well, they already have: iCal, Mail, Pages, and Keynote. What's missing? A spreadsheet and a GUI to tie them all together. Yeah, they could finish that by 2006, which is when their x86 hardware hits the market. Coincidence?

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (1)

simpsone (830935) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833207)

Aren't they already about halfway there? I've not used either product, but I understand that Pages and Keynote 2 are both very fine programs. Get a spreadsheet program and something similar to Access (Filemaker?) and they'd have all they need.

Huh? (2, Insightful)

jpellino (202698) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833232)

So instead of selling Office for PC they sell Office:Mac - they make their money either way.

Re:I can't see this happening anytime soon (1)

raistlin42 (93480) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833271)

No, since the MBU of microsoft makes such a ridiculous amount of money, they'll probably make MORE money if apple sells more OS X machines than they do Windows machines.

That'll teach em (2, Insightful)

nxtr (813179) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833102)

It will reveal how much Microsoft is in bed with computer manufacturers.

ok, seriously (2, Insightful)

paRcat (50146) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833105)

Why does Apple not realize that they would be doing themselves a favor if they didn't act like their product is 'holier than thou'? I mean, if it were priced below M$ and ran on x86 machines, it would eventually win.

Seriously, don't they realize that selling cheaper sometimes means bigger profits?

Re:ok, seriously (1)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833179)

Well, for starters, they'd end up losing a lot of the cool little hardware tricks that make a Mac a Mac. FireWire disk mode is the one that comes to mind right away...

Re:ok, seriously (4, Insightful)

piecewise (169377) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833189)

You're wrong.

The whole advantage to the Mac is that it's of a better quality, more stable, and has an Apple logo.

Sending Mac OS X to every computer manufacturer in the world would inhibit those three attributes.

The Apple brand is beyond hot - it's becoming part of culture. Market share is growing by leaps and bounds, and it's arguably just the beginning.

If you could sell the software and the hardware, why wouldn't you?

It's not holier tha thou. It's their product. That's like saying, "God, McDonalds is so snobby because they won't let Burger King offer their McNuggets. Come on already!"

Yes, the formula works for Microsoft, but I don't think it would work for Apple. It makes Apple just another PC company. The fact that they are truly innovating is the reason for their success.

Re:ok, seriously (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833206)

They may do something like 'Mac by Dell', like HP is doing with iPod.

ok, seriously-Wal-Marting of Apple. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833213)

"Seriously, don't they realize that selling cheaper sometimes means bigger profits?"

Wal-Mart agrees with you.

Actually (3, Insightful)

paranode (671698) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833224)

I'm sure the zealots will mark me a troll but what will happen in reality if they do that is they will have to start writing support on their OS for more than just their own hardware. This means they cannot control quality anymore. When you start introducing the third party hardware and accompanying drivers, the stability of Mac OSX will get shaky and it will start to act more like Windows. Comparing Windows to OS X is apples and oranges right now, because Macs are more akin to video game consoles as far as the software/hardware mix is concerned. Seriously, if OS X came out for x86 what you'd have is basically yet another Linux/Unix distro. You'd have to wait around for the companies to decide they need to support their hardware on OS X with drivers and all of that. It would be the same kind of issues Linux has now for the most part, except for the decentralization problem.

Re:ok, seriously (1)

compm375 (847701) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833230)

I think they still can't understand that they can partially be a software company. They think if hardware sales go down, they are doomed, but they could make a lot off of software.

Re:ok, seriously (2, Insightful)

HyperBlazer (830880) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833259)

I mean, if it were priced below M$ and ran on x86 machines, it would eventually win.

And this is why Linux has already destroyed Microsoft.

What would probably happen (3, Interesting)

mmkkbb (816035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833106)

Apple contracts Dell to build the new x86 Macs, and licenses Dell as a Mac reseller. Everything still has the Apple logo, but Dell gets a cut.

Missing the point...? (3, Insightful)

Colourspace (563895) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833107)

Am I missing something here? I would have thought one of the key reasons that OSX is so popular is its stability (lets put features like Dashboard to one side for a sec).. And part of the stability comes from the fact that OSX only needs to be developed for a limited subset of microprocessors and hardware architectures currently then surely once it had to become generic for Dell boxen this would mean the OS *might* be more unstable as a result?

Who wouldnt? (5, Interesting)

krakelohm (830589) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833109)

The question is who of the big PC manufactures would not offer OSX if givin the opportunity?

I'd sell MacOS on x86 (1)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833111)

Too bad Apple isn't interested in such a deal.

Which isn't to say anything, really. They are already the #1 personal computer OEM. They only stand to lose if they allow others to horn in on their business. Isn't that right, Amelio?

Jobs willing to let a grudge go? (1)

wedding (618458) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833112)

Damn, Dell purchasing power and Apple technology. My fan boy pants just don't know which way to dance.

Could be a great opportunity for Steve, but after Michael Dell's comments on the iPod being less than impressive, does anyone see it really happening? I think Jobs' penchant for holding a grudge will kill this before it even gets past the discussion stage.

You need a colon. (1)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833113)

The headline should be "Dell: We'd Sell Mac OS X."

See, that colon indicates someone (in this case Michael Dell) is speaking. If you employed editors, they would know this.

Colons (1)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833269)

I think you need to take the fork out of yours, grammar boy.

Last gasp. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833114)

I'm assuming that Dell is doing this because of the falling margins on computers. What will they do when even Apple's are commodities?

Makes no real difference (1)

KrisCowboy (776288) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833119)

For Dell to see MacOS, won't they have to give a make-over to their hardware? Hell, it would end up as much as buying an Apple. I'd rather have the Apple if it came to that :-)

Eww (1)

Lennavan (847042) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833123)

Dude, there's no way in hell I'm gettin a Dell.

Mactel closed platform fanbois say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833124)

..."No it will never happen because Apple say so."


Another victim (1)

bigwavejas (678602) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833126)

Great! Dell just drank the Kool-Aid! die

Linux (1)

nukem996 (624036) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833127)

If he would sell OS X why wouldnt he sell Linux? He could make his computers cheaper by giving users an easy Linux distro(Fedora, Mandrake, maybe even Linspire) and just charge for burning backup CDs and installing. He would be giving his customers a secure OS with a free Office Suite(MS Office costs extra now). The main reasonhe hasnt done this is because of threats from MS, but wouldnt MS do the same for selling OS X?

Re:Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833239)

Cause Linux is suxx0rs and it's free anyway.

doubtful (4, Insightful)

SpiceWare (3438) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833129)

how many times have we heard about Dell and AMD?

Dell's just posturing to get better discounts from Microsoft.

Translation: (5, Interesting)

Silverlancer (786390) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833130)

"We want Microsoft to provide us with cheaper copies of Windows XP, so we will threaten to switch to OS X but not actually do it."

They've done this before with switching to AMD--they've announced many time that they were "considering" it, but as soon as Intel lowered their prices, Dell backed off.

I bet he would (1)

hchaput (544841) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833135)

Sorry, Mike, I think Apple will keep its hardware money to itself. Thanks for the offer, though.

This is a good indicator that Apple's plan -- to sell a superior computer for OS X and Windows -- is being taken seriously. It's a daring plan, but if it works, Dell has the most to lose.

trolling whiner (4, Informative)

jsailor (255868) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833137)

Michael Dell is no longer CEO. He's chairman of the board. Kevin Rollins is CEO.

Okay (1)

failure-man (870605) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833139)

How long before Redmond calls up to explain why doing so would not be in Dell's best interest? Something along the lines of "Those Windows licenses you're including for retail? We're gonna start making you pay us retail for them."

Funny how people get misquoted... (2, Funny)

GatorMarc (451163) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833141)

Years ago, Michael Dell said he wanted to sell Apples... and it got misquoted as:

"I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders."

Re:Funny how people get misquoted... (3, Interesting)

metamatic (202216) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833205)

Yeah, given Dell's past advice to Steve Jobs [] I somehow don't think he'd go for it.

Hmmm...Dell Apple PCs? (1)

ErichTheRed (39327) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833146)

Dell would probably have to change their entire production philosophy first. If I order a PC from them, even if I order a server from them, I get whatever random components they have in the bin that meet the specs. It makes it very hard to standardize an IT department on Dell equipment. People buy HPs and IBMs simply because they know they can get the same machine for the next few months rather than play around with yet another brand of component.

The reason why Mac OS works so well currently is because Apple can do QA on a small set of hardware they know the composition of. They know what components go into an iMac G5 versus a 17" PowerBook G4. Can the same be said for the Dell Dimension Build of the Week?

Finally real competition (1)

moz25 (262020) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833155)

Ah, could we finally see the start of *real* competition in the desktop OS market? It would interesting to have a unix-based OS as competition to windows.

One can argue that this might lessen the rate of adoption of linux, but I think the opposite will be true because when developers support two platforms, they'll have to use cross-platform toolkits or code so going to three platforms is not that big a step.

Now that OSX is gonna run on x86 hardware... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833158)

Are we gonna see OSX being pirated like Windows, now that most people are actually able to run it?

Will Apple see a massive user boost due to this? It's food for thought.


European zine about guns, hacking, survival, paranoia []

SJ? Clones? (1)

frostilicus2 (889524) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833164)

After his second coming, Steve Jobs quickly removed all clone licenses stopping Moto, Umax et al from producing Mac like PC's. I'd doubt he'd completely change direction on his deep seated hatred of clones, however Dell is a major player and we have seen stranger things in previous weeks... ...but saying that, if he does, I'm buying a typewriter. At least I'd have a solid cultural identity. :) These next few months could be very interesting.

This is probably blasphemy to Mac "purists..." (1)

ksdd (634242) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833167)

...but as long as I'm running Mac OS X, with some assurances from Apple as to hardware quality standards, then I don't really care who makes and sells me the box. I owned one of those PowerComputing rigs back in the day, and it was a damn fine computer. Sure, current Apple kit is purty and all, but I don't notice my G5 much from its perch under the desk.

That said, I'd be surprised if Steve would ever allow Michael (or anyone else) to produce and sell Macs. But stranger things have happened, even in the last two weeks.

Apple *may* do this (1)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833170)

I've been pretty dismissive of the whole "OSX will run on PC boxen" arguements; I think Apple still wants to control the hardware. I seriously doubt you'll ever be able to buy a boxed version of OSX and plop it on just any PC hardware (at least without some serious hacking / bootstrapping), nor will Apple tolerate it.

However, I could see Apple possibly doing strategic partnerships with the likes of Dell and HP, allowing them to license (at a financially rewarding rate) some motherboard designs and allow them to sell to certain segments of the market. Maybe to existing Dell/HP customers who already have existing purchasing agreements, markets/locations Apple isn't already selling to, etc.

How would Microsoft respond? (2, Interesting)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833177)

IF Dell started selling (or hinted at selling) the Mac OS that ran on x86, would MS just stand by? Even thought Dell offers Linux with some boxes IIRC, I suspect they [MS] would try to ink Dell to some exclusive deal and give them a major price break on Windows and related software. I suspect they must already have some deal...this may be Dell's way of getting MS to sweeten the deal even more.

I think it would be great if Dell provided MS, Apple, and Linux OSes as choises, but I just can't see MS allowing this to go on without some sort of "intervention". It wold be even better if they also sold AMD based systems.

this way the could copy Apple faster (1)

jsailor (255868) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833180)

Selling OS-X may gain them earlier insight into Apple's designs. This would help them in their "let's make PC's that look like Macs" process.

Using intel != magical PC compatibillity (4, Insightful)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833181)

A common thread I see running through all these conversations about the upcoming switch to Intel processors is an assumption that having an Intel automatically equates to PC Compatibility.

Back in the 1980s, there was a period of time where Macintoshs, Amigas, Ataris, and other computers all used the Motorola 68000 processor. Just because they had the same processor did not immediately mean that they could all run each others hardware. Sure, there were some emulators available, but they usually required that the user have, say, a copy of the Macintosh ROMs to put into a physical card, or something similar.

The BIOS needs to know how to address the disk. The bootstrap code can be the same from machine to machine, but without someone finding and feeding it to the CPU, you got nothing.

Did Jobs say the Mac was switching to intel Processors? Yes. Did he say Macintoshes would now boot on ye olde' compaq in the basement? Nope.

Microsoft? (1)

parasonic (699907) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833200)

What does this mean for Microsoft? Are they going to take their move and switch over to the PowerPC platform? ;)

Signs of the impending apocalypse. (2, Funny)

calstraycat (320736) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833208)

In the last few weeks we have witnessed the following:

-Macs moving to Intel microprocessors.

-Roger Waters reuniting with Pink Floyd.

-Michael Dell's desire to sell OS X.

Icicles are forming in hell, pigs are flying, etc. Pick your favorite trite cliche. Personally, I'm scared. I think it's time to stock the basement with canned foods.

Of course he would! (1)

alispguru (72689) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833209)

The question is, would Dell be able to manufacture something to Jobs' standards of design and taste? Judging from their previous efforts, not unless Apple did most of the design and vetted the parts suppliers - in which case, why involve Dell at all?

Gates won't like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833218)

What if Gates says Dell cannot sell Windows... There is still a much larger market for Windows than OSX.

nice but no (1)

illtron (722358) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833219)

This sounds like a wonderful idea. Unfortunately, it would severely cut into Apple's hardware sales, which, believe it or not, is fairly profitable.

It's a great idea, but it won't happen -- unless their hardware business became unprofitable. I think Apple is wise to the fact that they need to be able to drop their hardware business as a last resort, and quickly, if that happens.

Apple doesn't want both a HW and SW price war (3, Insightful)

guidryp (702488) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833223)

Dell said "offer to our customers", in that in the option box for some PC's you could select OSX instead of Windows.

The result would be lower winXP pricing, to price OSX out of the market and lower bundling prices of office, and of course no more Office for Mac. This would help kill OSX on Dells for PC buyers.

But Mac buyers would still shop Dells against Macs, killing Mac HW sales or profit margins.

Yep, I am sure Steve J. is just waiting to get into a price war on two fronts...

Tomorrow's headline: (2, Funny)

oberondarksoul (723118) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833229)

"Dell should just liquidate the company and return the money to the shareholders..." - Jobs

only if it was made in china (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12833233)

like Dells current PC line, check the box markings when you see one

funny how so many USA companies are prepared to sell out their countrymen for that new SUV or beach condo, if there was a profit in selling ZyklonB gas you can bet a USA company would be selling it

Worst. Headline. Ever (0, Troll)

Chiisu (462604) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833241)


Dell the person, not exactly the company (1)

skydude_20 (307538) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833244)

hopefully the poster keeps up with the news, cuz Michael Dell isn't the CEO of Dell. There's a bunch of things Dell (the person) has said he'd love to do but we know Dell (the company) probably wouldn't do.

Yeah, and....... (1)

ericdano (113424) | more than 9 years ago | (#12833262)

That's like Paris Hilton saying "Yeah, I'll do you". It's meaning less. Dell isn't going to do anything for Apple, so, why sell the OS to Dell then?

Apple would be way more likely to go with HP or Sony. As long as Steve is in charge, Apple will have high standards on what will run OS X. It won't be some DULL box with no style.

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