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Apple Making a Spreadsheet?

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the only-a-matter-of-time dept.

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Raleel writes "It appears that apple has trademarked the word "Numbers". Speculation is that it is a new spreadsheet. It makes sense with Keynote, Pages, and Mail." That would sort of fill in the last major hole in their lineup.

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The Numbers Game: (5, Interesting)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835976)


From TFS:


That would sort of fill in the last major whole [sic] in their lineup.

Errant homonyms aside, this seems to make a lot of sense...after all, Apple is just a spreadsheet shy of an office suite...although between M$ Office and Open Office, I find myself wondering why they're even bothering...

Also, wasn't there an Apple spreadsheet program previously...called 'grid' or something? I seem to recall something along those lines...perhaps 'Numbers' isn't a spreadsheet after all. The assumption that 'Numbers' is in fact a spreadsheet is only speculation, after all.

Re:The Numbers Game: (2, Funny)

mythosaz (572040) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836005)

Nah, they mean to say "whole." It's a coded message to the Germans, providing instructions to bomb Pearl Harbor.

Re:The Numbers Game: (1, Interesting)

moonty (704069) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836006)

I'd imagine 'Numbers' could also refer to a calculator. or... maybe Apple is getting into the shady side of 'organized' gambling.

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836140)

It could also be a database for keeping track of telephone numbers.

Re:The Numbers Game: (4, Interesting)

CdBee (742846) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836016)

A Sun executive announced about 3 years ago that Apple had hired engineers to work at Sun on StarOffice (OpenOffice + commercial addins) for OSX, and that this product would shortly be announced and be shipped with new Macs

The same guy was sent about a week later to deny that it was happening but accept that he did claim that it would

2 years later, Apple produces an internally-written, incomplete Office suite completely unrelated to StarOffice/OpenOffice

Assumption. As with the time ATi preannounced an Apple product by accident and was dumped for nVidia, Sun screwed up and Apple pulled the whole project in revenge. Pages/Mail/Keynote is the replacement. Numbers is the missing component.

Re:The Numbers Game: (4, Interesting)

BWJones (18351) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836019)

The thing that many people are really missing out on with Pages is that it really is a DTP program. Adobe and the other programs that perform page layout should have done something like this years ago. Pages is small, compact, pretty speedy and it handles images like no other word processing program I have ever used.

Now if I could just get End Note to work with Pages, I could drop Word entirely.

Re:The Numbers Game: (2, Informative)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836020)

Also, wasn't there an Apple spreadsheet program previously...called 'grid' or something?

IIRC, Steve made references to a spreadsheet-in-progress called "Grid". If this thing really is a spreadsheet, it's probably the same project.

Lotus Improv (2, Informative)

EccentricAnomaly (451326) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836126)

Let's hope Numbers take its inspiration from Lotus Improv [wikipedia.org] .

Re:The Numbers Game: (4, Insightful)

theluckyleper (758120) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836022)

Also, wasn't there an Apple spreadsheet program previously...called 'grid' or something?

True, but before "Pages" there was the ugly beast called "AppleWorks"... which clearly couldn't compete with MS Word.

I think they're trying to cover their asses in case Microsoft pulls the MS Office rug out from under them.

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

zerocool^ (112121) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836172)


Hah! I remember appleworks. We had it on a 5 1/4 floppy for our Apple IIgs. It had a lot of forward-thinking options at the time, like ascii interpretations of folders, and an option to print to disk (for text files, so I could write my applesoft basic in appleworks rather than in the included "editor", which consisted of cat the program, break where you want to edit, and escape up into the program).

Wow. Blast from the past.

~Will

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

UrgleHoth (50415) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836183)

I used AppleWorks on my ][e many moons ago.
I recently bought an iMac G5, tried AppleWorks.
I didn't play around with it long before I got sick of it.
It looked like the only thing that changed was it now in a GUI intead of a TUI.
Not just Ugly, bug Fugly, IMHO.

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

Dukael_Mikakis (686324) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836044)

While it also doesn't make too much sense to me (when there are mature and viable alternatives out there), it feels like (it this is true) that Apple simply wants to have their own complete office suite just for the sake of having their full office suite.

Maybe Apple feels like half the company it could be without a spreadsheet app.

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836098)


Maybe Apple feels like half the company it could be without a spreadsheet app.


Spreadsheet envy?

^_^

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

Audacious (611811) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836091)

Try AppleWorks and the Claris Office software.

I'm thinking the term "Numbers" is from the TV show of the same name which is a nice twist to a SpreadSheet name as well.

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

kollivier (449524) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836107)

You're probably thinking of XGrid, but that's for distributed computing.

As for why they're bothering, well, all I can say is that I wish more people'd try iWork because then they'd see it's not a clone of MS Office and OpenOffice. It's not "there yet" in terms of being feature-complete enough to compete with these office suites, which is probably what's keeping their sales so low, but if you're doing something like desktop publishing or want to design a slick presentation, iWork is easier and in many cases gives better results.

Re:The Numbers Game: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836167)

after all, Apple is just a spreadsheet shy of an office suite...although between M$ Office and Open Office, I find myself wondering why they're even bothering...
after all, Apple makes an OS too...although between M$ Windows and Linux, I find myself wondering why they're even bothering...

Re:The Numbers Game: (2, Interesting)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836181)

...although between M$ Office and Open Office, I find myself wondering why they're even bothering...

I don't know if you've used it or not, but OpenOffice on OSX just doesn't flow properly at all. It may sound like a small thing, and I'm sure some people are happy to put up with it, but on a computer that carries a premium for design and "Just works" it really kicks the whole thing out when you have an app that doesn't 'feel' right, especially if you use it alot. Conversely, Keynote (which I had used long before the release of Pages) had impressed me from the start by being easier and slicker than the competition and Apple has Pages going the same way. OpenOffice is functional, but iWork is above and beyond.

As for MS Office, I don't personally like it as much as iWork anyway but for those in business it's really the only option - Apple wants to have a mature office suite in place as their user base expands, that way even if MS does decide to pull their suite from OSX it won't do as much damage - Apple don't want to look like the creation of the software was reactionary to MS's assumed withdrawl of Office v.X, even if it was in fact pre-empting it.

Re:The Numbers Game: (1)

WatertonMan (550706) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836190)

Open Office is a non-starter on the Mac due to it's interface (as are most competitors) MS Office is actually pretty good, and the main reason their existing iWork doesn't sell too well. Adding a spreadsheet will improve, but the fact is that all their products will need a few more revisions to compete with Office for any but the casual user. Having said that though, Page is pretty nice. I was quite impressed by it. But there are lots of things it doesn't do well yet.

Perhaps a Bad Choice (1)

Ryan.Latham (892596) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835984)

Indeed that the word "Numbers" could make sense to a spread sheet program. However without knowing more details speculation is open to a variety of purposes; it could be a finance application or just a calculator.

But it does make sense in the naming convention of previous Apple app's that a spreadsheet program would be called "Numbers." Yet I'm not convinced that this would be a good name for it.

numb3rs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836008)

Yet I'm not convinced that this would be a good name for it.

Unfortunately the name reminds me of a stupid detective show [cbs.com] .

Wait for them to name the word processor.... (2, Funny)

BRock97 (17460) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836046)

Think that's bad? Wait for the word processor called "Alphabet". From what I hear, they'll get Sesame Street characters to perform the same function as Clippy.

Re:Perhaps a Bad Choice (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836179)

Considering what most people use spreadsheets for, maybe they should call it "EasyWayToDrawBoxes".

anyone edit anymore? (-1, Redundant)

cephyn (461066) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835985)

try "hole" not "whole" -- spellchecker isn't enough, use your brain.

Re:anyone edit anymore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836047)

that's what [sic] is for...

sic

adv.

Thus; so. Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in its original form or written intentionally.

Re:anyone edit anymore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836067)

I'm equally offended by your disregard for capital letters, jackass.

Wait till they trademark Letters (4, Funny)

Winckle (870180) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835987)

and then we will see Apple's "innovative" new product line

A spreadsheet or a spreadsheet program? (3, Informative)

jkujath (587282) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835988)

Shouldn't this read "Speculation is that it is a new spreadsheet program "?

Re:A spreadsheet or a spreadsheet program? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836076)

Apple likes to keep things simple. Such as their one button mouse.

It is believed the spreadsheet program will only allow you to create and manipulate a single cell.

Steve Jobs you have done it again.

Re:A spreadsheet or a spreadsheet program? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836089)

How is that flaimbait? I think it's a valid point.

As the parent alludes to, a spreadsheet is a set of data, just like an email, a picture, etc. It's also not correct to say "I'm going to launch my jpeg", right?

Re:A spreadsheet or a spreadsheet program? (4, Informative)

xtracto (837672) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836097)

+1 Insightful...

You see, the 13 year olds kids that read slashdot nowadays do not know that before Microsoft Excel existed, people used paper [wikipedia.org] spreadsheets [wikipedia.org]
and that NO Spreadsheet is not a COMPUTER related term. Spreadsheet program IS a program that implements the funcionality of a REAL spreadsheet.

It's a hole in the line-up (3, Funny)

mpapet (761907) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835993)

I loose my mind everytime I see silly errors like that.

Re:It's a hole in the line-up (2, Funny)

suwain_2 (260792) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836040)

You don't have to be an a-whole about it. ;)

Re:It's a hole in the line-up (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836057)

That was holy uncalled for. ;)

Re:It's a hole in the line-up (1)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836074)


Watch your mouth, you...we won't have such unholesome talk here.

^_^

Re:It's a hole in the line-up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836111)

Bah you know "Numbers" ... That was there choice. Apple has been known to give such names to it's product line. It's not rediculous!

Re:It's a hole in the line-up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836152)

OK, confused now, did you mean to say Wash your mouth you?

Though I think what was really meant was:-

Wash, you're mouth, ewe

Or something like that.

Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836187)

I don't have a mouth, you insensitive clod!

Re:It's a hole in the line-up (2, Funny)

merdaccia (695940) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836042)

Me two.

Re:It's a hole in the line-up (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836072)

I loose my mind. . .

Nothing that a bit of Lock Tight won't fix.

KFG

Spelling? (editors) (-1, Offtopic)

non-poster (529123) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835994)

That would sort of fill in the last major whole in their lineup.
How much would it cost to get Slashdot some editors who could actually spell and/or use correct grammar?

Re:Spelling? (editors) (1)

lxt (724570) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836053)

A case for outsourcing to India, perhaps?

Well you can't trademark *a* number... (1)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835995)

But I guess you *can* trademark Numbers...

Re:Well you can't trademark *a* number... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836026)

The book in the Bible seems to have that trademarked a while back

Re:Well you can't trademark *a* number... (1)

interiot (50685) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836117)

Microsoft Word (tm)

Apple Number (tm)

Microsoft Paint (tm)

A bunch of silliness...

Good for apple (0)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835996)

They finally have ehough market share to get off pen and paper. Soon they'll graduate to Quicken.

Say what Taco? (-1, Redundant)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835998)

That would sort of fill in the last major whole in their lineup.

Whole or hole?

And iCal (0, Redundant)

Therlin (126989) | more than 9 years ago | (#12835999)

iCal is their calendar software.

Patenting a _word_? (1, Troll)

djh101010 (656795) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836002)

How the heck can anyone get away with trademarking a common word? Can I trademark the word "trademark" and send the world into a self-referential abyss?

I'm an apple user and supporter, but this is just silly. Name it that, fine, but don't try to limit other people from using it.

Nice going, mod. (-1, Offtopic)

djh101010 (656795) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836050)

I made my post when no others were visible in the thread, and I don't see any others making the same points, and you called it "redundant"? Would you care to explain your thinking please?

Re:Nice going, mod. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836108)

1) A trademark isn't a patent.

2) You can trademark common words for a particular specific business use. Trademarks aren't globally applicable.

3) When you're making a point that the rest of the IANAL morons here didn't bother with, I wouldn't emphasize the fact, redundant or no.

Re:Nice going, mod. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836171)

The reason it is "redundant" is because most of us, upon reading the article, already knew that some idiot who doesn't understand trademarks would write a post like yours complaining about it.

Re:Patenting a _word_? (5, Insightful)

EccentricAnomaly (451326) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836060)

How the heck can anyone get away with trademarking a common word?

You mean like: Apple?

Re:Patenting a _word_? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836069)

No(tm)

Re:Patenting a _word_? (1)

Nick Harkin (589728) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836080)

They'll have trademarked it, with respect to computer programs I imagine.

Like Microsoft has trademarked the work 'Windows' with respect to computer software.

Or the Apple from the story have trademarked 'Apple' for use in the context of computers, yet EMI/Capitol have trademarked it with respect to music.

Re:Patenting a _word_? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836087)

you noticed this just now?

apple, windows, word, office, red hat are just some of the 'words' that spring to mind

Re:Patenting a _word_? (3, Informative)

cei (107343) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836100)

From the USPTO
A trademark is a word, phrase, symbol or design, or a combination of words, phrases, symbols or designs, that identifies and distinguishes the source of the goods of one party from those of others.

So yeah, you can trademark the word "trademark" in regards to a specific product or market. You could sell TradeMark(tm) cookies, if you liked, or call your car company "trademark". Anyone else selling cookies or cars and using the word trademark in certain ways might be found in violation. On the other hand, I believe common words are considered "weak trademarks" and can be tougher to enforce than made-up words or proper names.

Re:Patenting a _word_? (1)

Sneeper (182316) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836182)

First, trademarks and patents have nothing to do with each other.

Second, many people can trademark the same name without any conflict as long as they refer to completely different things. Many companies hold the a trademark on 'Tiger' for example. As long as nobody else names their Spreadsheet "Numbers", there shouldn't be a problem. Much like Microsoft trademarked "Word" for their Word Processor. They don't keep people from using the word "word" in other places.

The only thing annoying about naming a product a common word like "Numbers" is that it makes it very diffcult to google when looking for solutions.

Re:Patenting a _word_? (1)

overunderunderdone (521462) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836184)

umm... "Apple"

Common words are trademarked all the time in all sorts of businesses (As are just plain numbers contra a previous post. "76" Gasoline, 501 Blue Jeans, 505 both blue jeans and a cleaning solution, and of course Channell No. 5)

Trademarks don't prevent other people from using the word it just prevents people from naming their product, in the same industry, the exact same word that you already have. Or, to use one that is close enough to either cause confusion or to trade on your popularity.

Only fair... (2, Funny)

Embedded Geek (532893) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836004)

After all, Bill Gates patented ones and zeroes.

(Couldn't find the link to the Onion story - they've pulled it)

Re:Only fair... (4, Funny)

myheroBobHope (842869) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836134)

You know, if only we had a search engine, that would save your joke...

Consider it saved. [att.net]

Re:Only fair... (1)

Fishstick (150821) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836196)

REDMOND, WA -- In what CEO Bill Gates called "an unfortunate but necessary step to protect our intellectual property from theft and exploitation by competitors," the Microsoft Corporation patented the numbers one and zero Monday.

With the patent, Microsoft's rivals are prohibited from manufacturing or selling products containing zeroes and ones--the mathematical building blocks of all computer languages and programs--unless a royalty fee of 10 cents per digit used is paid to the software giant.

"Microsoft has been using the binary system of ones and zeroes ever since its inception in 1975," Gates told reporters. "For years, in the interest of the overall health of the computer industry, we permitted the free and unfettered use of our proprietary numeric systems. However, changing marketplace conditions and the increasingly predatory practices of certain competitors now leave us with no choice but to seek compensation for the use of our numerals."

A number of major Silicon Valley players, including Apple Computer, Netscape and Sun Microsystems, said they will challenge the Microsoft patent as monopolistic and anti-competitive, claiming that the 10-cent-per-digit licensing fee would bankrupt them instantly.

"While, technically, Java is a complex system of algorithms used to create a platform-independent programming environment, it is, at its core, just a string of trillions of ones and zeroes," said Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy, whose company created the Java programming environment used in many Internet applications. "The licensing fees we'd have to pay Microsoft every day would be approximately 327,000 times the total net worth of this company."

"If this patent holds up in federal court, Apple will have no choice but to convert to analog," said Apple interim CEO Steve Jobs, "and I have serious doubts whether this company would be able to remain competitive selling pedal-operated computers running software off vinyl LPs."

As a result of the Microsoft patent, many other companies have begun radically revising their product lines: Database manufacturer Oracle has embarked on a crash program to develop "an abacus for the next millennium." Novell, whose communications and networking systems are also subject to Microsoft licensing fees, is working with top animal trainers on a chimpanzee-based message-transmission system. Hewlett-Packard is developing a revolutionary new steam-powered printer.

Despite the swarm of protest, Gates is standing his ground, maintaining that ones and zeroes are the undisputed property of Microsoft.

"We will vigorously enforce our patents of these numbers, as they are legally ours," Gates said. "Among Microsoft's vast historical archives are Sanskrit cuneiform tablets from 1800 B.C. clearly showing ones and a symbol known as 'sunya,' or nothing. We also own: papyrus scrolls written by Pythagoras himself in which he explains the idea of singular notation, or 'one'; early tracts by Mohammed ibn Musa al Kwarizimi explaining the concept of al-sifr, or 'the cipher'; original mathematical manuscripts by Heisenberg, Einstein and Planck; and a signed first-edition copy of Jean-Paul Sartre's Being And Nothingness. Should the need arise, Microsoft will have no difficulty proving to the Justice Department or anyone else that we own the rights to these numbers."

Added Gates: "My salary also has lots of zeroes. I'm the richest man in the world."

According to experts, the full ramifications of Microsoft's patenting of one and zero have yet to be realized.

"Because all integers and natural numbers derive from one and zero, Microsoft may, by extension, lay claim to ownership of all mathematics and logic systems, including Euclidean geometry, pulleys and levers, gravity, and the basic Newtonian principles of motion, as well as the concepts of existence and nonexistence," Yale University theoretical mathematics professor J. Edmund Lattimore said. "In other words, pretty much everything."

Lattimore said that the only mathematical constructs of which Microsoft may not be able to claim ownership are infinity and transcendental numbers like pi. Microsoft lawyers are expected to file liens on infinity and pi this week.

Microsoft has not yet announced whether it will charge a user fee to individuals who wish to engage in such mathematically rooted motions as walking, stretching and smiling.

In an address beamed live to billions of people around the globe Monday, Gates expressed confidence that his company's latest move will, ultimately, benefit all humankind.

"Think of this as a partnership," Gates said. "Like the ones and zeroes of the binary code itself, we must all work together to make the promise of the computer revolution a reality. As the world's richest, most powerful software company, Microsoft is number one. And you, the millions of consumers who use our products, are the zeroes."

The hole in Apple's lineup (4, Funny)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836013)

Apple doesn't have a high performance virus distribution mechanism yet. It's way too easy to turn off "open safe files after download" in Safari and then all you've got to work with is social engineering.

Whatever (1)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836014)

There is nothing wrong with OpenOffice. They should make a stronger push toward that.

Numbers? Shouldn't it be iNumbers? The next word processing software will be iSentence. They can't use iWord or Ballmer will sue them silly.

Nothing wrong with OpenOffice? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836035)

There is nothing wrong with OpenOffice.

*snort*

I'd rather use punched cards.

Re:Nothing wrong with OpenOffice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836127)

agreed. there are some terrible glaring bugs (copy and paste one for example) that they never seem to notice. i suppose noone who actually tried to use openoffice submits bugs. i know i dont. i just stopped caring.

i numbers (2, Funny)

behindthewall (231520) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836137)

That could make for some interesting financial calculations.

Re:Whatever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836194)

There is nothing wrong with OpenOffice. They should make a stronger push toward that.

Have you ever tried using OpenOffice on OS X? For some strange reason I don't think Apple wants their customers to have to jump through hoops to get a program to run. If they were going to go through the trouble of doing the major rewrite of OO.org that would be necessary, they would probably decide that it'd be easier to just write their own suite from scratch. Oh wait, that's probably exactly what they did...

Trademark Violation (2, Funny)

techguy911 (672069) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836023)

Looks like I'm gonna owe Apple lots of money soon. I use the word "Numbers" about 100 times in my latest project report.

Re:Trademark Violation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836165)

look what you did. you used the word 'word'... oh wait

Hey Maybe cringley was correct (1)

1967mustangman (883255) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836033)

So is this just more proof that Apple is distancing themselves from Microsoft in an attempt to join forces with Intel and rule the world!!!!!!

Nah... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836147)

Pages is no Word replacement. I am by no means a huge fan of Word, but things like changes tracking really have no duplicates in Pages. Same thing for Keynote. I hate PowerPoint, and Keynote is just so polished, but there are plenty of things that I have to use PPT for because Keynote just doesn't do it.

I think Apple is trying to compete with Microsoft Works, you know the light-weight office tools that can come with the system / are vastly cheaper than Office, but perfect for someone that is only typing a paper or graphing stuff from an intro chem class.

MS Office on the Mac keeps Apple in the game. Apple realizes that not everyone wants to spend $400 on an office suite, so they are attempting to give a cheaper, yet full-featured alternative.

Surely the last thing we need? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836036)

Surely an Apple spreadsheet is just about the last thing we or they need. We already have OO. If you don't like that, we have Gnumeric. If you want something simpler we have AppleWorks or KOffice. Then there is Excel. What on earth can these guys be thinking of, if with 2% market share they can find time to develop yet another spreadsheet! Oh, of course, silly of me, it will have Aqua coloring. Yes, that will sell a lot more hardware!

"Numbers" is dangerous to open source! (1)

mpontes (878663) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836037)

Think about it. They trademarked "Numbers". That includes 0 and 1! All the software I use is under copyright violation now!

Now I understand.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836110)

Now I understand why it says "News for Nerds"....congratulations.

plugin possibilities... (1)

chill (34294) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836049)

How long before someone makes add-ons for it: ...Of The Beast! -- helps with tax-related info ...Of Angels on the Head of a Pin -- charitable contributions module.

Book of... -- Statistics module with lots of frequency distribution functions.

-Charles

OMFG!! WHOLE LOL!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836052)

dude, did you know you spelled use the wrong "hole"? LOL!!11

oh, wait.. you corrected it. ..

i've got nothing.

fill the hole? (1)

cacoe (870499) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836056)

what about a database app?

Re:fill the hole? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836093)

Filemaker

Re:fill the hole? (1)

great om (18682) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836095)

filemaker pro?

or is there something that it doesn't do?

Or... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836061)

Maybe it's just their answer to calc.exe?

Not to be a Jerk but . . . (1)

autosentry (595252) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836064)

I really hope they do that, because NeoOffice J and Open Office are not cutting it on the Os X platform. *Hastily runs for the exit, ducking head down*

Next Trademark after Numbers: (4, Funny)

Stanistani (808333) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836065)

Deuteronomy.

It's the NextStep to the iBible.

Office Replacement (1)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836070)

In an earlier article on slashdot [slashdot.org] about Dell using OS X on their computers, someone pointed out that if this happened Microsoft would probably stop making office for Macs. This makes a certain amount of sense in that people won't want to switch if they can't keep a lot of the same applications, a problem that's plagued a lot of people considering switching to Mac.

It looks like Apple might be getting prepared for the chance that Microsoft does decide to withdraw their support from the Mac. It would be an interesting turn if Apple eventually tried marketing a few of these applications on Windows like they do with iTunes. Not likely to happen because Apple still wants to sell computers, but it would give Microsoft a little competition other than Open Office.

Apple made an office suite for Windows before ! (1)

CdBee (742846) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836148)

Pages is an Apple Pro App. Other Apple pro apps (Quicktime Pro) run on Windows.. as does iTunes because it sells iPods

Apple used to sell AppleWorks 6 for Windows - I have a copy. It's horrible. Apple's Office may also appear on Win32 eventually. Hopefully somewhat more nicely

Don't they already *have* a spreadsheet? (1)

payndz (589033) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836077)

On the very rare occasions I need to use one, I just boot up AppleWorks 6. Whoa, and there it is! Rows and columns, all interacting and everything! Came free with the computer too.

But I guess they mean 'a spreadsheet... THAT LOOKS KEWL!'

I think I see Apple's strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836083)

I'm gambling that Apple is expecting to keep profit margins up by keeping support rates extremely low by developing very high quality software.

I just downloaded it. (4, Funny)

blackmonday (607916) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836085)

I just downloaded this new spreadsheet program and my powerbook feels much snappier now!

Numbers... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836086)

It could be the Apple version of minesweeper. You need a killer app to sell all those new Mac-Intel machines.

CBS Worried? (1)

ndansmith (582590) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836101)

I wonder what CBS thinks about this trademark considering that they have a crime drama entitled "Numb3rs." Will this be another challenge of Apple's trademarks (think: Tiger)?

Trademark the word "Trademark" (1)

amstrad (60839) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836105)

I just trademarked the word "trademark". HA! Now are you going to do?

Re:Trademark the word "Trademark" (1)

HillaryWBush (882804) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836189)

Trademark the word "lawsuit"?

Can you copyright a proper word? (1)

VirtualUK (121855) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836113)

I didn't think you could copyright just one word that is in the dictionary. I thought you'd be able to copyright "Apple Numbers" but not "Numbers" on it's own. Can anyone confirm or deny?

It's Just In Case (4, Insightful)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836119)

We thought that Apple would be able to obtain PowerPC chips for years to come that did what we wanted. Steve didn't assume and ran all OS X versions on prototype Intel-equipped Macs as early as 2000 just in case things did not pan out as IBM promised. We know now how foresight like that can help.

In 1997, to aid in Apple's revival, Microsoft initially agreed to make new versions of Office for Mac in exchange for non-voting stock options, a token deposit of $150 M in Apple's account, and under-the-table dismissal of lawsuits that Apple filed. That agreement has since expired. Although Office for Mac is healthy and profitable to both MS and Apple (since an Office version presents justification for businesses to buy Macs), Steve looks ahead, just in case, and ensures that there are Apple products that also fit the bill.

It shouldn't take long... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12836123)

After all, Apple can even get their engineers to continue working on projects after they're fired [pacifict.com]

Microsoft Numbers, heh funny name (1)

ecloud (3022) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836136)

Sounds kindof like "new math". You know, they could redefine the rules one normally uses with numbers...Could be useful for benchmarks, Netcraft surveys, time-warping their release dates, etc. :-)

wingz (1)

pbjones (315127) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836149)

IIRC Claris/Apple bought Wingz Spreadsheet, many years age.

Re: Apple Making a Spreadsheet? (1)

fuct_onion (870134) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836155)

Are they using OO.org Calc or MS Excel?

Nah... (1)

rekoil (168689) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836166)

...it just means that Steve is a big Kraftwerk [interoutem...rvices.com] fan.

Remember (2, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836176)

Trademarking "Windows" == Evil

Trademarking "Numbers" == Good

Maybe Apple trademarked it, simply so noone else can?

Uhhhh (-1, Flamebait)

Delifisek (190943) | more than 9 years ago | (#12836203)

I really bored that chicken sh*t.

I dont understand, there is no new thing, every one try to copy, that micrsoft.

Sorry guys, Microsoft invent the office, you will have to invent someting other.

I don't know what, and it must be different, nearly more than half of OSS community try to re create windows desktop and they do but people still uses microsoft.

Why people uses that thing ? Because of what?
They did not care their healt why they care programs ?
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