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Linspire To Run Windows Games

Hemos posted more than 9 years ago | from the good-move dept.

PC Games (Games) 460

Ken writes "Aviran's Place reports that Linspire and TransGaming released Cedega for the Linspire desktop Linux operating system, allowing Linspire users to play hundreds of popular Windows-format games right out of the box."

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Meh. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922221)

Michael Robertson. Meh.

Portability (4, Insightful)

SadPenguin (776485) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922222)

Not a linspire fan, but i think its about time someone's thinking this way. Portability is key for widespread acceptance, and I like cedega, because in my experience, it works.

Re:Portability (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922413)

I'd rather see games run natively under Linux. Cedega is a discouragement.

Re:Portability (2, Insightful)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922525)

Hmmm... I got Cedega and was still unable to play Riven or Uru. I also noticed they aren't on the list of games people want to play. But... I want to play them.

WORST POST! (-1, Troll)

JollyFinn (267972) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922223)

4EVAR!

first post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922226)

first post

Most Importantly... (5, Funny)

nxtr (813179) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922232)

Does it play Solitaire?

Re:Most Importantly... (1)

Jonny_eh (765306) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922303)

I'm pretty sure that the original wine plays Windows' solitaire.

You may have been joking, but I'm not.

Re:Most Importantly... (3, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922405)

Yes. [ccp14.ac.uk]

Even if it didn't, sol [thathost.com] is an excellent replacement.

Windows just isn't that expensive (1, Interesting)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922233)

You know, Windows just isn't that expensive. Chances are, due to the (I would think illegal, but no one seems to care what I think) per-processor bundling of Windows, you probably already have a copy for your box. So just boot into Windows to play your game, and then return to Linux afterwards. It's likely to run faster this way anyway.

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (2, Insightful)

Shrapn3l (888384) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922296)

I agree. Why buy more software for Linux (which is supposed to be mainly open-source) and run Windows programs like Wine? Why not use an actual Windows environment?

Still, though, I'd love to play Madden 2005 on my Linux. It just sounds so forbidden. :)

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (2, Insightful)

angrist (787928) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922315)

Thats not the point...

I don't want to have to reboot to play a game.

Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (5, Insightful)

jbellis (142590) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922334)

Maybe it's because having to save all your work, rebooting, rebooting again when your game is done, and restoring all your applications to the right state is a HUGE WASTE OF TIME.

Right now, for instance, I have 12 applications open, only a few of which have entirely satisfactory auto-restore-after-shutdown functionality.

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (2, Interesting)

Meagermanx (768421) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922429)

Wow, you keep twelve applications up while you're playing a game?

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (5, Funny)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922480)

Wow, you keep twelve applications up while you're playing a game?

yes, this is Linux we're talking about here... not ms-windows, where it's obligatory to shut everything else down prior to starting up a game... just in case...

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (1)

Meagermanx (768421) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922563)

I was thinking about the speed issue. Linux must really be wonderful to run 12 applications without taking a speed hit.

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (1)

klingens (147173) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922592)

Considering the normal desktop computer runs to 99% of time idle: what speedhit?

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922633)

Minesweeper doesn't have much of a resource requirement anyways.

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (1)

Zediker (885207) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922436)

seriously though, i doubt you run your games with all those files/applications going on at the same time sapping your ram and cpu speed...

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (2, Insightful)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922559)

As long as the game runs "fast enough," some of us don't really care.

WOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922611)

Try running world of warcraft on linux.

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (1)

malsdavis (542216) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922453)

I rarely have any applications open while playing games, like many gamers I try to get the best performance out of my computer while playing.

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922501)

In the latest ubuntu there is the option

System > Log Out > Hibernate the Computer

This dumps the state of your linux system to the swap partition, and on your next linux boot allows you to resume your work exactly where you left.

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (1)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922528)

Maybe it's because having to save all your work, rebooting, rebooting again when your game is done, and restoring all your applications to the right state is a HUGE WASTE OF TIME

And spending hours playing WoW or Halflife isn't? I agree with you about it being a pain, but by calling it a "waste of time" you ain't gonna get any sympathy from me...

Re:Wow, I wonder why nobody thought of that (1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922562)

Right now, for instance, I have 12 applications open, only a few of which have entirely satisfactory auto-restore-after-shutdown functionality.

So what you're saying is that Linux applications are shit?

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (4, Insightful)

qewl (671495) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922389)

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20020531/windows _gaming-06.html [tomshardware.com]

Yes, actually it is about half the speed on Linux. But I still think it will become faster. I also think Wine/CVS may catch up to WineX/Cedega in a year or so. After all, the real goal is to not have to leave Linux for atnything.

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (1, Redundant)

Ghostx13 (255828) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922408)

Actually, in my experiance (KOTOR I & II, WoW) games run faster and with fewer crashes (again for the games I've played). I had nearly constant mouse issues with KOTOR I under Windows; mouse not moving correctly, double clicks when a button was only single clicked, etc. Never once did I have one of those problems under Cedega. I also got higher frame rates under Cedega for all games mentioned, and was able to run WoW at higher settings than under Windows.

Bottom line: I really have NO reason to use Windows now. At home at least. I've not been able to get Remedy (ticketing system) to work fully under Cedega yet...

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922490)

I don't know how many share this experience, but for me, there's a number of games that run _faster_ with Cedega that on Windows.

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (5, Interesting)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922509)

  1. I build all my own desktops, and my laptop is a Mac. Hence, I don't already have a copy of Windows.
  2. Windows is not cheap; it's ~$200 retail.
  3. Even if I wanted to spend the money, I sure as hell don't want to sell my soul to the Windows Activation scheme!
  4. Why should I have to reboot my desktop -- which has an uptime of several months -- just to play a game?
  5. Actually, some games run faster under Wine than they do natively. Besides, as long as it's "fast enough" I don't really care if it could be a little faster on Windows.
  6. The way to combat the illegal bundling isn't to bend over and take it, but to refuse to submit.

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922594)

Since 1994, I've only bought two systems with Windows. The rest came with no OS. That's typical for the majority of Slashdotters. Why buy from someone like HP or Dell, when you can build a better system for less yourself and load up a better OS (Linux or one of the BSDs)? I currently have one machine that runs Windows here at home. Just one. And it's almost always booted into Fedora Core 3. The reason for the Windows installation is that I still like Sony's Vegas video editor better than anything I've seen on Linux. Other than that, there's not a whole lot of reason to buy Windows anymore.

Re:Windows just isn't that expensive (1)

Rakshasa Taisab (244699) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922603)

Windows is *not* cheap, unless you pirate it. MS is currently taking a large margin of every single computer sale. As the prices of computers fall, the share going to MS becomes more and more untolarable.

ongoing cost (4, Insightful)

Laz7 (754088) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922235)

at 45USD a year, I think I will pass on that ...

Re:ongoing cost (2, Informative)

qewl (671495) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922441)

Cedega/WineX is $15 for the minimal 3 month subscription which would get you all the precompiled binaries. Not too bad.

http://transgaming.org/subscription/subscribe.html [transgaming.org]

Re:ongoing cost (0)

Moderator (189749) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922556)

Good. Now port it to FreeBSD.

Re:ongoing cost (1)

darksider415 (893698) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922455)

I have to agree on that one. Personally, I believe that if you're going to do something of this nature, it should be in the spirit of Open Source, and the GPL, in that it should be free. I'm not looking to offend anyone, or to insult anyone. I just feel that if you're going to do this, on a Linux-based platform, it should be free. I, for one, am a proponent of such measures being taken on Linux, but there still needs to be work done, and it needs to be usable on all *nix platforms, instead of only Linspire. I'd really like to see a version for SuSE, but that's just because that's my distro of choice.

Re:ongoing cost (2, Insightful)

saider (177166) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922554)

I wish my mortgage holder and grocer would get more into the spirit of Open Source.

Re:ongoing cost (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922481)

Cedega doesn't stop working when you unsubscribe, you just don't get new versions. So that means if you just want to get a version you would have to pay $15 and get all the updates for 3 months. You could buy a subscription once a year and spend only $15 a year, which is a lot less than most people spend on games.

Affordable (2, Interesting)

teiresias (101481) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922241)

Kevin Carmony, president and CEO of Linspire, Inc. ..."Point2Play with Cedega is so easy and affordable, you'll be able to play Windows games on Linspire for less than it would cost to purchase a Windows system."

Cedega = $44.95
Game X = $40-50
Total = $80-95

Windows Home = $100~
Windows Pro = $130~
Windows Longhorn = Unknown

Makes sense to me.

Re:Affordable (0, Flamebait)

xENoLocO (773565) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922297)

So you're saying $180 is less than $80? I'm assuming your post was sarcastic... Regardless, you forgot to tally the cost of the game + the windows system.

Re:Affordable (1)

Curtman (556920) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922358)

" So you're saying $180 is less than $80?"

No, I think he was saying that for less money, you can get Cedega and a game, maybe two. Buy Windows, and it costs you more, plus you still need games.

Re:Affordable (1)

Cat_Byte (621676) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922433)

But the Windows cost is a one time cost. Cedega is an annual cost I believe. It would be cheaper at first but would eventually surpass. I've tried cedega but some of the games that loaded had issues such as invisible buttons or lag. I love the idea though. It makes it possible to play a few games on my widescreen TV running Fedora and MythTV.

Re:Affordable (1)

Curtman (556920) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922549)

"But the Windows cost is a one time cost."

Maybe for you. For your average person, there's also a $60+ annual spyware/virus removal/detection charge. Then there's upgrades, which are included with Cedega.

I don't use Cedega at all though, Wine proper is plenty good for enough for my needs.

Re:Affordable (1)

mike260 (224212) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922573)

Windows is also an ongoing cost; the upgrades from 95->98->ME->2K->XP aren't free you know.

Re:Affordable (1)

Cat_Byte (621676) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922648)

Bah I'll run 2K Pro for games until they pry it from my cold dead hands ;) Either that or when WINE starts working with all of my stuff. Then my journey to the dark side..er..linux will be complete.

Re:Affordable (1)

kormoc (122955) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922526)

$180? where'd you get that number?

And the cost of the game is the same no matter which platform you use...

Re:Affordable (1)

cuerty (671497) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922302)

You forgot that in Windows you too have to pay for Game X, so it will be something like: Windows Home = $100~ or Windows Pro = $130~ Game X = $40-50 Total between $140-180

Re:Affordable (1)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922316)

You forgot the game price in your Windows numbers. You're not going to get the game free when you buy Windows (unless you pirate, but then you could do that for Linux too).

So it really is:

Windows Home = $100~
Windows Pro = $130~
Game X = $40-50
Total w/Windows Home = $140~$150
Total w/Windows Pro = $170~$180

Re:Affordable (1)

pizen (178182) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922577)

You're not going to get the game free when you buy Windows (unless you pirate, but then you could do that for Linux too).

In which case you're probably not buying Windows, either.

Re:Affordable (1)

indros (211103) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922323)


Cedega = $44.95
Game X = $40-50
Total = $80-95

Windows Home = $100~
Windows Pro = $130~
Windows Longhorn = Unknown

Makes sense to me.


Actually, you included the price of the game in the first estimate, but not the second. So, really, it would be:
Windows Home = $100~$130(Pro)
Game X = $40-50
Total =$150~($180)

Your forgot the cost of Linspire (2, Informative)

strongmace (890237) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922362)

Other posters have pointed out that you forgot to add the price of Game X in your Windows numbers.

However, you also forgot to add in the price of Linspire which is ~$80-90 I think.

So 80+40+45=165 for Linspire and $140 for Windows Home or $170 for Windows XP.

Re:Your forgot the cost of Linspire (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922643)

You and other posters are wrong about the price of Game X. The quote is:

Kevin Carmony, president and CEO of Linspire, Inc. ..."Point2Play with Cedega is so easy and affordable, you'll be able to play Windows games on Linspire for less than it would cost to purchase a Windows system."

Put on those reading goggles and note how it's comparing playing Windows games on Linspire to a *gameless* Windows system.

Re:Affordable (2, Interesting)

Nos. (179609) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922388)

If you're going to count the cost of the OS for Windows, you have to do it for the Linux side as well "Cedega with Point2Play requires Linspire Five-0" which according to the site is $99.00 new. Thus, we're now looking at $143.95 for the Linux way, or as you said, $100-$130 for the Windows.

Bad Comparision (0, Redundant)

ad0gg (594412) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922452)

They forgot about purchasing Linspire [linspire.com] . So you'll add $60 for linspire and $45 for Cedega and its more expensive then OEM windows xp Home. Wow, thats competive. I'll probably get modded down for this because i'm pointing out the facts.

Re:Bad Comparision (2, Informative)

d3bruts1d (639027) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922520)

Bah, you got to it before I did.

Though... if someone were to use the coupon code LycorisWelcome between 7:30AM and 1:00PM PST they could get Linspire 5.0 for free. ;)

Please note that (5, Funny)

hyperstation (185147) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922468)

using an "it costs less" argument will not work:

Windows XP Pro, via bittorrent: $0
Game X, Y, Z, *and* A, via bittorrent: $0
Total: $0

Re:Affordable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922487)

Hey buddy, did you know that you forgot to include the price of the game in your estimate? Let me spell out the exact math in very concise terms, while also pedantically yet tactfully correcting your ignorant mistake. Oh, God, give me some Slashdot karma for being the 9th person to point this out!!!

Re:Affordable (2, Interesting)

d3bruts1d (639027) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922488)

Everyone is getting it wrong. lol You've forgotten that you also have to buy Linspire [linspire.com] .

Linspire: $49.95
Cedega: $44.95
Game X: $40-50
TOTAL: $134.90-144.90

If you really want to use Linspire, you also have to buy the CNR membership [linspire.com] . So that would add another $49.95/year.

Now. Compared to Windows:
Windows XP: $100-$250 (Priced @ Amazon [amazon.com] )
Game X: $40-50
TOTAL:$140-$300

Pricing Windows XP Home + Game could be cheaper than trying to run it on Linspire.... Though it could also be cheaper on Linspire than running on XP Pro. Upgrade vs Full install also have an impact on the Windows XP price.

Wa wa wa waaaaa...... (0)

LordPhantom (763327) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922242)

Impressive.... or at least it would be, if they had a site that could handle more views than it takes to make the first post.

And there isn't really that much to say based upon the header... could someone tell us what this is all about?

That's What They Said in the First Place (2, Interesting)

Winkhorst (743546) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922244)

Actually, Lindows was supposed to run ALL Windows programs before they scaled back their early claims. Looks like it just got put on the back burner.

Re:That's What They Said in the First Place (4, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922353)

Robertson didn't know what he was talking about. He'd seen WINE in action, and assumed that it was close to being a complete replacement for Windows. He then went on to include it with Lindows and promised the world that he'd be Windows compatible. Somewhere along the line he learned the horrible truth (Win32 is an ugly, broken, and complex moving target) and backed off his claims.

Unfortunately, this left Lindows in a bit of a lurch because it was less secure than most Linux distributions, and only had its application repository to carry it. My guess is that the Microsoft vs. Lindows lawsuit was what kept them on the map. Without all the press, it's posslble they would have languished into obscurity. Since then, the renamed Linspire has been slowly building back up to Windows compatibility.

Yes, but... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922248)

Yes, but will it run linux?

full text of article (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922249)

TransGaming Releases Latest Cedega Portability Technology for Linspire Operating System Gamers Able to Play Hundreds of Microsoft Windows Games on Desktop Linux Right Out of the Box.

Linspire, Inc. and TransGaming Technologies announced the release of Cedega for the Linspire desktop Linux operating system, allowing Linspire users to play hundreds of popular Windows-format games right out of the box. TransGaming's innovative Cedega portability technology, combined with the Point2Play graphical front end, offers equivalent game-play experience and performance, making it possible for avid Linux gamers to play titles like Half-Life 2, World of WarCraft and Battlefield 1942 on their machines. The product, which can be downloaded and installed through Linspire's CNR (click and run) software library for $44.95 USD, includes one year of access to Cedega plus regular software updates and membership to TransGaming.

"Gamers don't have to choose between Linux and Windows anymore," said Kevin Carmony, president and CEO of Linspire, Inc. "The release of Cedega technology for Linspire fills one of the most serious application gaps that exist for widespread adoption of desktop Linux. The added bonus is that installation of Point2Play with Cedega is so easy and affordable, you'll be able to play Windows games on Linspire for less than it would cost to purchase a Windows system."

Linux Games (4, Informative)

ndansmith (582590) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922264)

You can play the games right out of the box, assuming that you can get functional drivers for your video card. For all of us who use ATI cards for games, this is not so exciting.

Re:Linux Games (1)

tehwebguy (860335) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922382)

not to mention those unfortunate enough to use a relatively obscure card like i do, the mobility radeon 9700. probably the most unsupported-by-linux modern video card :/ i don't even want to game with it, i just want my gnome windows to move faster..

Re:Linux Games (3, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922425)

I'm surprised you were modded as insightful. The point was that they were including software support to run games via Cedega (Wine). If you bought an ATI card then given their track record with Linux drivers you get what you deserve. ATI's Linus drivers are known to suck. If you want to run Linux and play games, Nvidia is still the best for that purpose.

This thread is about added software support in a Linux distribution, not about various hardware/driver issues on Linux.

Re:Linux Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922502)

Before anyone else calls it, I spelled Linux 'Linus' in that post. Freudian slip? Perhaps.

Re:Linux Games (-1, Flamebait)

Enigma_Man (756516) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922636)

Then there's folks like me that switched to Linux recently, and have an ATI card that worked just fine in windows. Did I get what I deserve, jerk?

-Jesse

Re:Linux Games (0)

mc900ftjesus (671151) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922446)

If you use Linux and bought an ATI, you aren't very good at using Linux.

Re:Linux Games (2, Interesting)

StonedRat (837378) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922615)

I use the fglrx ATI drivers in ubuntu and never had a problem running doom3, ut2004 and most importantly tuxracer.

Immediate Relevance (2, Insightful)

SparksMcGee (812424) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922266)

Not to rain on anyone's parade (this is certainly good news for Linux users, though of course it'd be best if it were free), but how much of th ecurrent Linux market overlaps with the Widnows market. It seems to me that if you're buying a gaming rig, you probably already have at least one HDD that boots windows automatically (especially given the relatively incremental hardware advances since last summer). I'm not saying it's not something Linux users should demean, but I'm just not sure that they can count on this gaining Linux market share since those who game, run windows, those who like Linux, run Linux. The Linux community may now run games, but is this supposed to bring new people into the fold as the blurb suggests?

Re:Immediate Relevance (1)

It doesn't come easy (695416) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922355)

Works best for new computer buyers looking at a machine in the store side-by-side. Linspire machine $400 vs. Windows machine $600. If they both run the same games, more people will buy the Linspire machine. Of course, TransGaming would have to allow a time limited subscription to be bundled with the system along with some popular and free Windows only games. From the article, it doesn't sound like this is what they plan to do.

Re:Immediate Relevance (1)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922550)

hahahaha yeah I can't wait to play videogames on a $400 PC!!!

Whats the point of debating over a $400 linux machine vs $600 windows machine considering you can get an xbox for less then $200... Support linux and MS at the same time!

Re:Immediate Relevance (1)

It doesn't come easy (695416) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922565)

Because anyone with half a brain would realize that a general purpose computer can do much more than just run games.

satisfied transgaming customer (1)

vector_prime (575757) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922269)

Hooray. I've been a cedega user for almost a year now, and it is an excellent piece of software. Seeing at least one major distribution lend their support is definitely a step in the right direction.

But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922278)

What about the speed?

No need for choice? (4, Funny)

null etc. (524767) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922282)

"Gamers don't have to choose between Linux and Windows anymore," said Kevin Carmony, president and CEO of Linspire, Inc.

They especially don't have to choose if they decide to say with Windows. I love marketing speak.

Re:No need for choice? (2, Insightful)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922493)

Your comment is illogical. The marketing comment was in fact valid.

I read both statements a few times before bothering to say this, but don't decide its babble just because it came from marketing.

The statement from Kevin should probably be broken down grammatically and semantically into "People who want the (fun|stable|non-MS) operating system that is Linux but also want to play games (primarily released for Windows) won't have to choose between the two anymore since they can now have their cake and eat it too -- their Windows games will run on Linux."

If we took your comment at face value, what you're saying is "there's no reason to choose Linux." which is in fact flamebait.

Uh Oh! (3, Funny)

kerby74 (798328) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922283)

"Oh crap" Bill Gates 06/27/05

Re:Uh Oh! (2, Insightful)

Meagermanx (768421) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922522)

Actually, I don't think he's worried. If you want to game, you use Windows. Gamers already have it, have it set up with all their games, and if they use Linux, it's only as an alternate OS. Not a primary one. If this was free, that would be something, but charging $45.00 a year?
"Yeah, well my free, community supported, open source OS can run almost all the games yours can for only $45.00 a year! So there!"

Re:Uh Oh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922621)

Yeah. I am REAL sure Gates is worried about losing gamers. We all know gamers dont mind only playing maybe 75% or their games at 50% of the speed.

Alternate Articles (2, Informative)

wo1verin3 (473094) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922295)

Link is already dead..

- Newsforge [newsforge.com]

- ADDICT3D [addict3d.org]

Linspire, Inc. and TransGaming Technologies today announced the release of Cedega for the Linspire desktop Linux operating system, allowing Linspire users to play hundreds of popular Windows-format games right out of the box. TransGaming's innovative Cedega portability technology, combined with the Point2Play graphical front end, offers equivalent game-play experience and performance, making it possible for avid Linux gamers to play titles like Half-Life 2, World of WarCraft and Battlefield 1942 on their machines. The product, which can be downloaded and installed through Linspire's CNR (click and run) software library for $44.95 USD, includes one year of access to Cedega plus regular software updates and membership to TransGaming. For more information or to purchase Cedega for Linspire, please visit www.linspire.com/Cedega.

Coral Cache (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922298)

Coral [coralcdn.org] cache [nyud.net] .

And there was a great flood of Newbs (1)

VanWEric (700062) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922305)

Lasting 40 days and 40 nights, and hopefully a bit longer.

I hope this is for real - I'm more than capable of setting this stuff up for myself, but I can't set it up for my sisters without driving home and spending my valuable home time in front of a computer. I hope this will help us hit the newb audience better.

It's better than that! (3, Funny)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922310)

It also uses the Windows security model!

Article mirror (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922313)

In case of slashdotting...

mirror is here [mirrordot.org]

and article text:

TransGaming Releases Latest Cedega Portability Technology for Linspire Operating System Gamers Able to Play Hundreds of Microsoft Windows Games on Desktop Linux Right Out of the Box.

Linspire, Inc. and TransGaming Technologies announced the release of Cedega for the Linspire desktop Linux operating system, allowing Linspire users to play hundreds of popular Windows-format games right out of the box. TransGamings innovative Cedega portability technology, combined with the Point2Play graphical front end, offers equivalent game-play experience and performance, making it possible for avid Linux gamers to play titles like Half-Life 2, World of WarCraft and Battlefield 1942 on their machines. The product, which can be downloaded and installed through Linspires CNR (click and run) software library for $44.95 USD, includes one year of access to Cedega plus regular software updates and membership to TransGaming.

Gamers dont have to choose between Linux and Windows anymore, said Kevin Carmony, president and CEO of Linspire, Inc. The release of Cedega technology for Linspire fills one of the most serious application gaps that exist for widespread adoption of desktop Linux. The added bonus is that installation of Point2Play with Cedega is so easy and affordable, youll be able to play Windows games on Linspire for less than it would cost to purchase a Windows system.

Cedega and "Out of the box" in the same sentence!? (5, Interesting)

cybereal (621599) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922326)

Oh come now. Just try to install Warcraft III with Cedega.

I'm serious, that's the only game I was really hoping to play with Cedega when I tried it out. It flopped hard core, yet, WC3 is on their list of supported games with a flag indicating that it is playable.

Lies.

Re:Cedega and "Out of the box" in the same sentenc (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922372)

You must be a dumbass.

Re:Cedega and "Out of the box" in the same sentenc (3, Interesting)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922449)

Aside from the obvious flambebaitness of your comment, you're right.

Making most games work with Cedega is dead simple if you use Point2Play (recommended by Transgaming unless you "know what you're doing").

Most every game I've tried on the supported list has worked the first time.

Hmm.. (1)

Bananatree3 (872975) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922349)

If it can do what they say it can do, they should be able to tweak the program to run Windows ordinary programs with ease. Yes, Wine does an excellent job, but imagine if they tried making it for ALL Windows programs!

Not interested (5, Informative)

Thomas DM (895043) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922394)

Not really interesting.

Cedaga costs $44.95 and you also need Linspire Five-0 which costs $49.95 so that's almost $95.

I'd rather have a dual-boot system with Windows than some sort of emulation software that may not boot a quarter of my games.

Re:Not interested (1)

Cyph (240321) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922553)

Free Linspire Five-0: http://slickdeals.net/#p6196 [slickdeals.net]

wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922625)

Basic Linspire (the version you mention for $49.95) is actually free.

Linspire offers a coupon that chops $49.95 off the shopping cart's total if Linspire 5.0 is in the cart. Right now it's "LycorisWelcome". They do seem to change it every so often...

Hundreds eh?... (4, Insightful)

Timbo (75953) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922403)

What they say: "allowing Linspire users to play hundreds of popular Windows-format games right out of the box."

What they mean: "about 90 or so games run after spending hours changing config files and trying different version of cedega. 90 is nearly 100 right?"

Viruses? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922421)

I'm surprised we haven't seen an advertisement (I mean article) on their linux virus protection software http://www.linspire.com/products_virussafe_whatis. php [linspire.com] .

Amusing quote (1)

4lex (648184) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922503)

"Gamers don't have to choose between Linux and Windows anymore,"

Could they, until now?
(just joking! or should be...)

Sooo... (1)

robpoe (578975) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922505)

They released Cedega for Linspire that costs $45 (and includes a WHOLE YEAR) to download and install .. through Linspires "buy software" function...

Am I missing something here?

Isn't Cedega / P2P like $5 a month??

Oh, and isn't the redundant "Click here to pay for a software that will let you click to play a game.." kinda .. well .. weird?

Flame away.

Cedega is not an answer.. (5, Informative)

kuzb (724081) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922524)

...It's a gateway to thousands more user problems. While my hat is off to the Transgaming team for their countless hours of time, effort and dedication to the winex project, and gaming on linux in general, it's far from a good solution. Certainly not one I would unleash on the clueless.

Most games don't play well, or play with really annoying issues. For example, many in-game videos do not play properly in Cedega, and if you can't skip them, you might be sitting there a long time waiting for them to finish. A good example of this is Black and White, where the opening video can't be skipped, and plays at about 3fps.

There was (may be fixed now, I don't know) another issue where you couldn't install games spanning multiple CDs without copying the contents of those CDs to the hard drive. So now you're involving the commandline, and/or file managers in order to install a game. Not quite as point-and-click easy as windows.

Many games which rely on Directplay for their multiplayer functionality do not work at all. Warcraft 3 is a good example of this. Works great single player (assuming you skip all the in-game videos) but fails horribly in multiplayer.

Lastly, most copy protections are not recognised under Cedega/Linux, forcing the user to go out and find a crack for their game.

The solution here is not to run Windows games, but to find more ways to convince major game developers that they should release ports to linux directly. All this Linspire/Transgaming thing is going to do is frustrate people who just want to play games. It will unquestionably leave more with a negative opinion of Linux in general.

Forget games (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12922567)

I think consumers are more worried about anti-virus software and spyware blockers. I mean, I looked around and I found virtually *no* anti-virus software for linux desktops! If only I could run Norton Antivirus in Wine, then I could *really* make the switch!

Heck, Linux also needs to get up-to-speed on good defrag software, desktop-icon cleaner software, and maybe a closely bundled browser and media player! There are _a lot_ of opportunites for Wine in this space I believe.

Heck, couldn't someone make a linux distro that boots into X/Wine by default?

Developers - Share the Responsibility (1)

hexed_2050 (841538) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922576)

This is a great way to give people diversity when choosing which OS they wish to use to play their favourite games.

However, shouldn't the responsibility to provide a Linux gaming platform be on the software engineers and companies that create these games? There's nothing more enjoyable knowing that a company and their programming team took the time to acknowledge the Linux community and create a port of the game specifically for the Linux platform. Not only does it create a game that can be widely played on many platforms by many different types of people, it also gives the company a massive amount of creditability with real computer nerds.

Overall, I for one see this as a step in the correct direction, but I think some responsibility should lie with the developers as well.

Yearly fees, AHHH!! (3, Insightful)

skarps (688370) | more than 9 years ago | (#12922619)

Some games(MMORPGs) are already forcing the gamer to pay a montly/yearly fee(i.e. World of Warcraft, Everquest 2, etc...)to play, now in order to play a non-montly fee game (Doom 3, HL2) on my linux box, I'm forced to pay a yearly fee. So now I've went from paying a montly fee for just my MMORPGs to paying an additional yearly fee for all my games.

No thanks, I'll stick to my Windows box for gaming.

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