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Video iPod May Arrive in September

timothy posted more than 8 years ago | from the then-they-go-to-the-computer-bridal-chamber dept.

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Fuzzball963 writes "MSNBC is reporting that Apple is in talks with major record labels to license and sell video content on the iTunes music store. The videos would sell for $1.99 and be playable on a video iPod, which Apple has reported may come out sometime in September." Update: 07/18 18:54 GMT by T : Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes "Just to add to the previous Apple post, here's a free link to today's Wall Street Journal article upon which the MSNBC article was based."

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probably not fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095428)

Mod it down, baby.

Ohhhh (-1, Flamebait)

TsukasaZero (850187) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095443)

Now we can not only LISTEN to crap, but WATCH it!

Re:Ohhhh (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095524)


No, no, it doesn't have to be crap music. You can listen to all that "open source" creative commons licensed music that everybody's clamoring for.

Oh, wait. There's no clamor?

It's all creative commons because nobody'd give a dime for the song, much less the creation of a promo video?

Never mind.

One Problem (-1, Flamebait)

ndansmith (582590) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095452)

So now we can all watch TV podcasts on a TINY screen. I am having trouble getting excited about this one . . .

Re:One Problem (2, Insightful)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095477)

I'm thinking the design of the video iPod might be slightly different than the audio version. At least that's what I'm hoping for, because you're right -- it will be horrific if it's the little stamp sized screen they have now. Maybe if they had something similar to the PSP's screen...

Re:One Problem (-1, Troll)

ZephyrXero (750822) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095717)

Problem is they'll probably just have a Quicktime+DRM video format which will take up way more space than it needs too ;)

Why not bump up the processor a little so we can watch Xvid and Ogg movies? Oh wait...no DRM to piss off your customers? We can't have that...

Re:One Problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095494)

Hey--everybody sure seems content living up their fantasy girlfriend life with PSP-formatted porn videos. The Shuffle version should be a treat 8)

Re:One Problem (2, Funny)

happymedium (861907) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095548)

Now that's a bit short-sighted. I'll bet big money that the first peripheral/add-on is an A/V red-white-yellow output so you can connect it to your TV.

<paranoia>(Or, will Apple balk at this, considering how easy that would make it to circumvent the inevitable DRM on the movies?)</paranoia>

Re:One Problem (1)

cyberworm (710231) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095625)

I agree with that sentiment totally, but Apple has a pretty keen eye for design and interface. Perhaps a screen the size of the current ipods (covering the whole face) with some sort of touch screen input. Hopefully whatever they do, it won't disappoint.

XviD & Divx support (2, Insightful)

Pao|o (92817) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095461)

I'd get one if and only if it has Xvid or Divx support. Quicktime's nice and all but most content worth watching are for Xvid or Divx.

Before everyone starts bitching about the screen (4, Insightful)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095464)

Before everyone starts bitching about the screen, I'd like to mention that the strength of such a video iPod would be in its ability to output signal to a TV.
That way you can carry half a dozen, dozen movies with you on trips, to your friends houses, wherever, and view them on TV.

Think of it as your portable movie library.
(considering that that's what iPods already are for music purposes.)

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (1)

lostwanderer147 (829316) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095483)

This would actually be a really good use for it: I currently use mine as a hard drive to store movies so I don't have to have them on my laptop's drive. It would be kind of like the iPod Photo, but with video instead.

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095547)

And if it works anything like the Archos then it's DRMd and outputting stuff like DVDs recorded to the device won't work unless you have an intermediate step between the record and putting it on the device.

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (4, Insightful)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095605)

but wait though.
the files are DRMd, not the output. suppose they pump it throug the analog RCA (red, white, yellow).

sure you could rip the movie, but you'd have to wait 1.5 hours for each movie, and it wouldn't make much sense. just as you can rip the audio off the iPod, i don't think there would be much worry over it.

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (2, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095723)

I wasn't clear I guess. The device disables the external output when the files are DRMd thus you cannot view it on anything except the tiny screen unless you are playing a non-DRM file.

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (5, Insightful)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095614)

Before everyone starts bitching about the screen, I'd like to mention that the strength of such a video iPod would be in its ability to output signal to a TV.
That way you can carry half a dozen, dozen movies with you on trips, to your friends houses, wherever, and view them on TV.


I can already do that, though, provided a computer with DVI-output (eg: any new Mac), and a TV with HDMI-input (eg: pretty much any new TV worth owning) is available for use at the house I'm going to.

Just rip the DVD's to the iPod with Mac the Ripper, as I would with any other hard drive, and open them using the DVD Player on the Mac at the house I go to.

Think of it as your portable movie library.
(considering that that's what iPods already are for music purposes.)


No, iPods are for listening to music on the go. Are you actually suggesting that their main function is to allow you to take your music to a friends house and play on their stereo?

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (3, Interesting)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095705)

you have a point.
adding video to iPod (which does one thing and does it well, except now it can do two things -- photos) makes it perhaps too complicated.

however, what i am suggesting is that Apple would now have a tool to dominate the online video market the way they do music.

think about it. we're all waiting for movies for download. who's gonna do it and how? Apple is the only company that can even try. All they need are the contracts, bandwidth, and video iPods.

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095727)

I can already do that, though, provided a computer with DVI-output (eg: any new Mac), and a TV with HDMI-input (eg: pretty much any new TV worth owning) is available for use at the house I'm going to.

Just rip the DVD's to the iPod with Mac the Ripper, as I would with any other hard drive, and open them using the DVD Player on the Mac at the house I go to.


Well we're all proud of you, now tell that to the average consumer and watch him scratch his head. Also, feel free to buy me a new computer and TV "worth owning" so that I may bask in your technical grandure!

Are you actually suggesting that their main function is to allow you to take your music to a friends house and play on their stereo?

Yes, the iPod's main function is to be a portable music library. Twist the words all you want, it won't make them true.

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (4, Insightful)

ziggamon2.0 (796017) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095632)

Actually, If you try out a modern phone, it has a resolution of about 240x320, which is approximately one quarter of the resolution of a normal tv. I have watched quite a lot of content on it, and it works surprisingly well.
Most people I meet laugh at the idea of watching video from something as small as a mobile phone, but it is already quite enjoyable, and after being shown a video they are always eager to accept being wrong. (As an anecdote I've had some of my friends sit around my phone looking at the video of Satisfaction, and noone complained about the screen size being small)

I can only imagine that if Apple puts some effort into their video iPod, they'll be able to have the same resolution as a regular TV.
The idea that we need to watch video on large screens (tv/cinema) is what I think is mostly convention, a small screen (at a closer distance to your eyes) occupies the same percentage of your retina as a big one at a distance.
To me, such criticism is just like people said "who would ever want to walk and listen to music at the same time?".
Small screens are usable already. And of course, should you prefer the relaxation of looking at something in the distance, you can always hook the iPod to the TV, just as the parent poster suggested.

Re:Before everyone starts bitching about the scree (4, Funny)

TrappedByMyself (861094) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095702)

Before everyone starts bitching...

Stop right there. I know it's cliche, but you must be new here.

Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095465)

I don't see how someone could find watching video on a 1.5" screen enjoyable.

firmware update or new device? (5, Interesting)

anotherone (132088) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095468)

Allegedly the current chip that's now being used for all ipods is capable of playing MPEG4 video. Will we see video support being released as a firmware upgrade or as a whole new ipod? I want to say new ipod but I really don't know if I'd be suprised if apple released it as a firmware upgrade.

Re:firmware update or new device? (2, Insightful)

Fireye (415617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095518)

Doubtful. Current ipod's are still B&W. I guess it would work for the ipod photo, but I doubt the LCD is good enough. I also doubt that Apple would just release a firmware update, when they can sell a bigger better newer product.

Re:firmware update or new device? (1)

pizen (178182) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095616)

Regular B&W iPods have been discontinued (the mini is still B&W, though). All full-size iPods are color now.

Re:firmware update or new device? (2, Interesting)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095672)

According to As Seen On TV, Apple was forced to wait for a H.264 hardware decoder before they moved into portable video. It makes sense that enough time has passed for that problem to be solved. Thus, the Apple Store videos will probably be H.264. If Apple makes any equivalent to ripping, it'll probably be to H.264 just like CDs go to AAC by default. The device may be capable of playing MPEG4 also, but do you think Apple is going to forgo the opportunity to put their high end iPod at the $500 price point again for a little while?

hacked version (3, Interesting)

plutonium83 (818340) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095470)

I'd be more interested in a hacked version of this new ipod that can play ANY video I want.

Re:hacked version (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095552)

I doubt that will require hacking. Nobody will buy this if they can only buy videos at iTMS. People will definitely use it to store their videos that they got by various means, legal or illegal.

Or it will be a huge failure.

Re:hacked version (1)

Trigun (685027) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095657)

What about walking into your local blockbuster, paying your money, and walking out with the movie on your Apple(TM) iPod(TM) iVideo(tm)? No need to return it, no late fees. Make it plug into your TV. Hell, you wouldn't even need a blockbuster, just a kiosk at the supermarket, mall, etc.

Video just isn't the same as music tho... (5, Insightful)

under_score (65824) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095472)

For a few reasons, I have a hard time believing that video on an iPod (or any other device) will be nearly as popular as music. The main thing is that people have lots of time to _listen_ while they work/drive/exercise/stroll/relax/sleep, but very little time when they can dedicate their most important sense to recreation. DVD's sell well, it's true, but while in my own case I might listen to a CD 20 or 30 times (and sometimes way more), I only watch a movie a few times (and maybe up to 10 times). This is primarily because of the bandwidth of time and attention, not for lack of interest.

From the FA (4, Informative)

vlad_petric (94134) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095534)

It's all about music videos, not movies. That makes a huge difference, IMNSHO.

Re:From the FA (1)

under_score (65824) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095613)

I don't think it does make a difference to my argument: it's still two senses instead of one, and the sense that we use for a large proportion of our information gathering. It is hard for people to multi-task when their eyes are involved... and I would wager that music videos, being full of technical events, make that even harder.

Re:From the FA (1)

vlad_petric (94134) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095707)

Good point, but what differentiates a video clip from a true movie is that actually watching the video part is totally optional. People will likely buy video clips because they're cooler, but will only end up watching them 5% of the time.

Re:Video just isn't the same as music tho... (2, Insightful)

itistoday (602304) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095684)

Yeah, and some people watch movies every weekend. Go figure.

Sweet! (5, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095474)

Now they need to make a video camera iPod, so I can film all the video iPod owners running into light poles while trying to watch this thing on their morning jog.

Re:Sweet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095581)

That was funny! (go ahead and quit your day job) : )

TV? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095478)

I hear you plug it into a TV to watch it, afaik, you don't watch it on the actual iPod.

Would I even need a new iPod? (2, Insightful)

Afecks (899057) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095486)

I wonder if iTunes will have a built-in video player so I won't need a video iPod. At $3 a movie that's not a bad deal as long as it's at least 600kbps MPEG-4.

Re:Would I even need a new iPod? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095636)

I se no reference to feature length movies. My guess would be that the videos would be akin to the ones on MTV.

Re:Would I even need a new iPod? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095654)

"Apple is in talks with major record labels to license and sell video content on the iTunes music store"

You're not paying $3 for a movie, you're paying $3 for a music video. Nice try.

(Although that quote is from the slashdot editorial, so who knows what TFA ACTUALLY says)

Who knew? (2, Funny)

artifex2004 (766107) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095487)

The future of video isn't HD, it's little portable devices with overpriced, DRM-encumbered media and small, low-res screens, like the PSP, cell phones, and the iPod.

I don't like it (2, Insightful)

Andrew Tanenbaum (896883) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095488)

I don't think this will be successful. People like to listen to music while they do other things. Video is immersive. You sit down and you watch it and you don't do anything else. Furthermore, there's no way to play a video on an iPod without the hard drive running constantly, and that will burn out the hard drive in no time and use up the battery in half that.

Re:I don't like it (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095635)

Might be kind of sweet if you spend a lot of time in airports and/or ice-fishing houses.

I agree that the applications are limited beyond that.

Yeah, but... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095489)

Does this mean Apple will now become the world's largest porn vendor???

Re:Yeah, but... (1)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095598)

Does this mean Apple will now become the world's largest porn vendor???

Oddly enough, I have absolutely no interest in wathcing pr0n on a 1 - 1/2 inch screen.

Link to facts? (2, Interesting)

spicyjeff (6305) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095490)

which Apple has reported may come out sometime in September


They have? Apple being such an open company and all with their future products.

This Explains It! (4, Funny)

TPIRman (142895) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095492)

ETA of video iPod: September.

ETA of conspiracy theory explaining why the video iPod is the real reason that Apple switched to Intel: Any second now.

Re:This Explains It! (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095665)

ETA of conspiracy theory explaining why the video iPod is the real reason that Apple switched to Intel: Any second now.

Correction.

ETA: Last week.

People in denial about the G5 development lag have been coming up with "real reasons" for the Intel switch since the day it happened, and I'm pretty sure I've heard "video iPods" thrown out there at least twice in published opinion columns.

Cost of video vs. cost of audio (3, Insightful)

MasterC (70492) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095495)

So, if a music video is $1.99 and the song is $0.99...then I don't get it. Does it really cost that much to make a song or does it really cost very little to make a video?

Somehow, I don't see that it's only twice the cost to make a video unless the price of the song is hyper-inflated (which, of course, could never be the case :).

Just like how the DVD is ~$17 on release day at Wal-Mart but the soundtrack is $16.

Re:Cost of video vs. cost of audio (1)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095682)

I'm guessing that the music video that you download will have a fairly high resolution that would give it a larger size. Because practically no one is really making a business out of selling music videos it's not like there's some price that needs to be met.

My best guess is that it's $.99 for the song and an extra $1 for using all of that bandwidth up.

Re:Cost of video vs. cost of audio (1)

JonasH (183422) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095698)

You're probably right that a music video costs more in production, equipment etc., but for most music videos, I'll wager there's less artistic work (for lack of a better word) behind it than the actual music (most, I said!). How do you decide how much the artistic work is worth? Answer: you can't, but apparently it makes the song "worth" half as much as the video (assuming these numbers weren't pulled out of a hat somewhere).

You can call this hyper-inflated, but the truth of the matter is that you have to put some value on the artistic work, otherwise the cost wouldn't include the artist at all.

Now about the soundtracks for movies, I completely agree. This is clearly wrong, but I don't see anything wrong in a song costing half of the music video.

Re:Cost of video vs. cost of audio (3, Interesting)

s7uar7 (746699) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095712)

The record companies usually don't make anything from the videos, they are made to promote the single. Anything they make from selling the video on iTunes will go straight to the bottom line.

Multitude of formats (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095497)

As long as it can play other videos, this could be good. I hope it plays all QT7 compatible formats, including h.264. Has anyone heard about the formats it will support?

Gates must be a bit chagrined. (4, Funny)

jusdisgi (617863) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095502)

Hehe. And this just hours after "Bill Gates Swears Vow Against 'Son of iPod'"

Too little too late? I thought you said it was a good size!

-Brodie and Gates.

Re:Gates must be a bit chagrined. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095666)

The effort, stupid!

Useless (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095510)

Nobody would ever accuse me of being an Apple basher. Quite the oppisite... I'm often called a Mac "zealot."

That said, this seems kind of stupid to me.

Music videos are not even popular enough to support a cable network channel ("MTV" is almost entirely crap "reality" shows these days), so what makes anybody think that they can support a "buy-to-watch-on-a-two-inch-screen" market?

Now, if you were talking about being able to watch pre-recorded episodes of Battlestar Galactica and Doctor Who while waiting around in an airport, I could get behind that. The tiny screen would be an okay-ish trade-off to not have to break out the laptop from my carry-on bag.

Re:Useless (1)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095553)

I would pay to be able to watch ad-free episodes of BSG. In fact, I would guess that a lot of people would pay if they could pay to watch a day prior to broadcast. It probably wouldn't hurt the ratings of the broadcast much either.

Re:Useless (1)

Iriel (810009) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095690)

There's two points to consider about your argument:

1. MTV lost it's M because it knew how to pander to what they deemed to be the 'popular' crowd. iTunes music videos could get a little more steam for being able to let users download the videos they want and create a playlist. It's just like the merits of iTunes vs. radio. The user can tailor it to what they want instead of hoping they'll play your favorite song.

2. There was a previously mentioned idea of the capability of video-out jacks which could turn an iPod into less of a poor substitute for a portable TV and more of a portable video library to hook up without bringing a case full of DVDs. It's a long shot, but when people have already created a Linux distro for the iPod, who knows how we'll hack a new format.

Re:Useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095715)

let me be the first to say: shut. up. dork!

Video is a fun novelty (1)

Monstard (855195) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095526)

I like the idea of music videos - I think they would be a cool substitute for cover art. I think the songs should still be $.99, though, or maybe $.10 more. How many times can you watch the same little video? I'd pay a dime for the novelty.

Why stop with music videos? (2, Insightful)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095527)

Apple really needs to get into the market the same way they got into the online music market: invent it and make it work so seemlessly that later competitors won't be able to keep up.

Apple could easily pitch the success of their iTunes music store the the major motion picture companies and probably work out a reasonable DRM that's flexible enough for consumers to handle.

Personally, I don't care if some other company is first out the door and gets it right like Apple did with the iPod and iTunes, but I just hope that other company isn't Microsoft given a lot of the recent /. articles about Longhorn having DRM for monitors and EF by Intel.

No desire (1)

CyberSnyder (8122) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095528)

If I wanted to download videos, I want to watch them on my desktop or laptop where I get better resolution. $1.99 for a video to play in an inch and a half screen? No thanks.

So, I guess I should say no thanks to the video iPod if such a thing is to exist. I can see the people driving down the road now with cell phone in one hand, video iPod in the other, slurping Starbucks somehow while driving with their knees.

Re:No desire (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095711)

What if iTMS does not offer certain popular songs without a music video attached?

Has anyone considered that this is a move to up the price to $1.99 instead of $0.99, with the added bonus of a crappy music video to make you feel less ripped off?

Conspiracy Theorists Unite! (Just don't come to the annual conference, I hear they put something in the water)

The choke point seems to be (2, Interesting)

Chrontius (654879) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095530)

... storage space. Movies are big and I don't think that jukeboxing movies and my 30 gigs of music on a 60gb iPod Video is going to be very practical -- I have a lot of DVDs I'd like to rip onto a video iPod. Can we expect a bump in the capacity then?

If I needed... (1)

Sierpinski (266120) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095535)

If I needed to watch videos at $1.99 a pop "On-the-go" THAT badly, I think I'd just DVR VH1 for a while, create a DVD of however many videos will fit, and just use my non pay-per-view portable dvd player to view them wherever I wanted. I could then also watch regular movies, old tv show dvds, and whatever else.

Sometimes I think that people buy these songs/videos just to be part of the in-crowd. Do people really need to be entertained THAT much when they're not at their residence?

At almost 2 bucks each, that will make a hefty bill VERY quickly.

not excited (1)

beowulfy (897757) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095538)

Would it really be worth it to watch the same music video's over and over again? Especially since I'm sure these new ipods will cost a bundle. Now if they made it so you could connect and digital video camera, that would be cool. If they don't do that, I don't see many people waiting in line to upgrage.

hmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095539)

Who wants to bet the latest 'color only' iPods already have the ability to play video with a software update?

Video on a 2 inch Screen? (1)

PhantomRogue (897704) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095544)

Ya gotta wonder why Apple is trying to expand to the tiny Video market when the PSP's UMD Media is not selling all that well to begin with... Now, they may be selling Music Video's, but even those are becoming more visual than 'Musical.' If I was apple, id stick with the Photo and just continue their domination of that market instead of trying to expand to another market and end up falling on their face when the PSP is trying, and currently not doing all that well, on a MADE for Gaming/Video handheld.

Protable video devices (3, Insightful)

norminator (784674) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095556)

There's been a few comments on /. lately about how portable video devices won't take off because noone wants to watch video on a small screen. But I've been thinking about this, and the regular iPod line has been inspiring high-end custom electronics manufacturers to integrate the iPod into nice home audio systems. The more I think about it, the purpose of the Video iPod wouldn't necessarily be to watch video wherever you go, although that would be an extra bonus, but to bring video wherever you want to, and easily watch it on whatever decent-size display you want. I'm sure it wouldn't have DVI or component out, so it wouldn't be a source for super-awesome hi-def video, but it would be great for home movies, music videos, funny videos downloaded from the Internet, and a lot of other things.

The joys of recanting (2, Informative)

Iriel (810009) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095557)

I seem to recall Steve Jobs mentioning that video was never meant to be portable. If memory serves, that was only one or two years ago.

Fast forward and any technology statement can and will be proven wrong by technology advances, customer demand, or the latter despite the lack of the former followed by several years of beta testing that people will call 1G.

Regardless, I'm still looking forward to what Apple can bring to the less than booming world of portable video players. And does anyone know when Microsoft is supposed to release a contender to this possible product?

Re:The joys of recanting (2, Informative)

norminator (784674) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095687)

does anyone know when Microsoft is supposed to release a contender to this possible product?

They don't make the product, but the software that runs on the product, and it's been around for a little while now, I believe. I first saw Creative's version at CES Jan 2004: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devices/por tablemediacenter/overview.mspx [microsoft.com]

Of course, if you're talking about about "the product" as in the service for buying the video, then see "Bill Gates Swears Vow Against 'Son of iPod'" on the main page.

Re:The joys of recanting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095710)

it was more like six months ago

This is just perfect! (3, Funny)

DaFork (608023) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095572)

Now my Aunt can carry around hours of her crappy home videos anywhere she wants for instant torture.

Re:This is just perfect! (4, Funny)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095630)

Now my Aunt can carry around hours of her crappy home videos anywhere she wants for instant torture.

At first, I thought you were talking about "Home videos OF instant torture." Your Aunt must be a really interesting person. :)

I just don't see it. (1)

foo fighter (151863) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095576)

I can't see Apple making a video ipod while Jobs is there.

It's been pointed out time and again that while listening to music can be a passive activity, watching video is active. You just can't watch video in all the places you can throw on the headphones.

Plus, watching video on a tiny screen is a terrible experience.

I just don't see it.

I can see a video iTunes. That makes sense. Watching video on you computer screen or piped from your computer to your TV isn't bad at all.

Look at the source (1)

Iriel (810009) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095599)

Does anyone see the hilarity of an Apple article reported by MSNBC and an Microsoft related ad in the middle of it on 3 out of 5 refreshes?

Hilarity? (1)

aardwolf64 (160070) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095647)

Nope... I don't find it funny at all. Perhaps you think that a news outlet co-owned by NBC and Microsoft should just ignore good news about their competitors?

Of course 3 out of 5 of the ads are Microsoft related. You are on a Microsoft-owned website

Joy! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095607)

Pay $1.99 for a promotional waste product now!

New Form Factor (2, Insightful)

jonoid (863970) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095620)

As far as the screen goes, I would assume Apple would redesign the iPod's form factor and use a larger screen, fitting the mainboard and hard drive behind it like other portable video player manufacturers have done.

Also, video output to TV would certainly be included. Imagine being able to cart around movies with you and plug them into anyone's TV. This would be a big seller.

My only fear would be that Apple would only allow certain formats (ie. DRM'ed .mp4 movies) and not allow the more open formats like XviD.

I'd buy them on one condition (3, Interesting)

ShatteredDream (636520) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095658)

If I could buy them and burn them to DVD using iTunes, then hell yeah I'd pay $1.99 per video. However, if they expect me to have to watch them on a tiny iPod screen or on my laptop then forget it. I have about 6-7 DVDs of music videos that I've downloaded online. If I can't watch them on my TV using VCDs or DVDs, then this isn't a good reason for me to give up on downloading music videos.

Record Lables! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13095660)

They're talking to record lables about video, not movie studios. This is about music vidoes, not movies. That's why they're so cheap. We're talking about 4 minutes of content, not 2 hours.

This confirms that "As Seen on TV" was just BS (2, Interesting)

blonde rser (253047) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095673)

...at least it does to me. I don't know who else was following along with the claims of "As Seen on TV" of being a big shot at apple but here [slashdot.org] he pretty much states there will never be a video ipod from apple. I'm guessing most people already had their suspicions about the guy but for me this confirms mine.

uh huh? (2, Informative)

d34thm0nk3y (653414) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095703)

Didn't he just say the opposite, oh yeah.

Mr. Jobs addressed the issue of video on iPods when asked by Mike Wendland of the Detroit Free Press whether or not Apple was looking to add features to the iPod. "We want it to make toast," replied Mr. Jobs. "We're toying with refrigeration, too."

While intended to get a laugh, which it did, Mr. Jobs also offered a more substantive answer as to why Apple had heretofore not added too many features to the iPod. "One of the things we say around Apple, and I paraphrase Bill Clinton from the 1992 presidential race, is 'It's about the music, stupid.'"

Mr. Jobs says that there is a big difference between the way people listen to music and other activities like watching videos. Specifically, he said, you can listen to music in the background, while movies require that you actually watch them. "You can't watch a video and drive a car," he said. "We're focused on music."


Sources: one [engadget.com]
two [macobserver.com]

Ipod Processing Power (1)

quark007 (765762) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095704)

Current IPod has a ~90 MHz ARM processor. Would that be enough for video processing?
Ofcourse, since the video resolution is quite tiny, we should be view video's without much problems.
But with the Intel-Apple nexus, I won't be surprised if we see a new Ipod model in market that boasts an Intel processor.

$2 for music videos? (1)

twigles (756194) | more than 8 years ago | (#13095708)

Save it. Does anyone actually *watch* the garbage put out by the MTV types anymore? If you want to check out a new band then you would just get the song, not the video. So far I see 2.5 uses for this thing:

1. Portable movie library for hotel rooms, trips to your friends' houses, etc..
2. Trading movies/porn.
3. Airplane movies ... maybe.

Depending on the price and what DRMish restrictions they force on consumers this thing may not be worth it.
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