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World of Warcraft Duping Bug Found

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the only-a-matter-of-time dept.

Role Playing (Games) 537

Over the course of this morning several people have sent me tidbits talking about an exploit on WoW that allows duping of items. Apparently forum posts are being removed on official channels, but there are a few places where you can learn about the exploit and see screenshot evidence. In equally exciting news, my Rogue on Azjol-nerub is probably 2 hours away from 60 and since Blizzard will undoubtedly fix this bug soon, I'll have to finance my epic mount the old fashioned way!

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Noone posting? (5, Funny)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104477)

Let me guess... Too busy duping items?

Re:Noone posting? (0, Offtopic)

ThePatrioticFuck (640185) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104490)

Well, Taco and Zonk are anyway.

Doubt it.. (5, Funny)

ShaniaTwain (197446) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104526)

I suspect they are working on putting together a lawsuit.. Doesn't slashdot hold the patent on duping?

Re:Doubt it.. (1, Insightful)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104635)

Bezos patented the idea. Slashdot is "prior art."

"It's an interesting observation that there is more circumstantial evidence to suggest all Christians are paedophiles than there is to suggest all Muslims are terrorists."
- daani

Re:Doubt it.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104716)

Cute Pseudo sig, but there is even more evidence to sugest all muslims are peodophiles, seeing as they all follow the teachings of one.

Taco...can't you afford to just buy your gold? (2, Funny)

sgant (178166) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104568)

I mean, go to IGE or simular and just buy all your gold if you really want to buy your epic mount. You're a fricken millionaire right?

I mean, if you're just going to do an exploit to get your gold what's the difference? Hell, just buy an account with a couple of level 60 characters.

Re:Taco...can't you afford to just buy your gold? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104654)

Wouldn't it be nice to know Tacos in-game character-name? Then we could show him our "appreciation" of his "informative" "news" site.

Re:Taco...can't you afford to just buy your gold? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104731)

He is a millionaire, but he's also a Linux user, and therefore a thief.

Re:Noone posting? (-1)

jgbishop (861610) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104590)

Let me guess... Too busy duping items? No. I'm too busy duping comments...

Re:Noone posting? (5, Funny)

anaesthetica (596507) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104608)

I hear the editors have been exploiting this bug for years on Slashdot...

Re:Noone posting? (3, Insightful)

NineNine (235196) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104685)

I'm guessing that "nobody" is posting because not that many people play MMPORGs. The vast majority (like World of Warcraft) have devolved into places where it's only fun for the kids who can play for hours and hours each day, exploiting every bug they find in order to enlarge their "e-penis". Normal people who occasionally play video games (like myself) are instantly turned off these games because of all of the kids playing. Until companies figure out how to make the games playable for everybody, they're going to continue to be popular among only the hardest of hardcore gamers.

Re:Noone posting? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104722)

LOL, the dupe might be real, but the screeny is the worst photoshop work i've seen in long time.

In Other News (5, Funny)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104480)

China's unemployment rate raised 50% this morning due to this bug.

Re:In Other News (1)

Samurai Cat! (15315) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104527)

Wouldn't that be EMPLOYMENT rate? What with all the gold-farming-and-auctioning sweatshops around? :D

Re:In Other News (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104577)

Uh, that'd be the point.

Re:In Other News (1)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104543)

Actually, today people there are probably working harder than they have been for a while.

If the game economy gets screwed up by this, though, it'll effect the farmers quite a bit.

Re:In Other News (1)

flycrg (801803) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104562)

No they'll just move over to FFXI cause we don't have enough gilsellers there....
That's of course if the server's ever come back online from the update.

Re:In Other News (1)

azbrdhntr (889352) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104625)

good god the update /me goes and crys in a corner.

Re:In Other News (2, Interesting)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104681)

I assume you're being ironic...

FFXI has hyperinflation at the moment due to gillsellers, plus there are key items which are *only* available from them via IGE, not in-game, since the mobs that drop them are camped 24/7 by gill sellers.

Re:In Other News (0)

flycrg (801803) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104698)

HIGHLY ironic unfortunately

Pete and Repeat are in a boat (1)

I Like Pudding (323363) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104483)

They must have used some of Slashcode's topic posting routines

Hmm (1, Funny)

ucahg (898110) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104484)

Is this similar to the slashdot duping stories bug?

Maybe I'll find out in a couple days when this story hits again.

Re:Hmm (0)

sharkey (16670) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104669)

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

My Rogue on Azjol-nerub is probably 2 hours away.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104487)

My Rogue on Azjol-nerub is probably 2 hours away from 60

Wha?

Blog Take Downs? (-1, Offtopic)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104488)

Gotta love this digital age, where with the stroke of a pen, you can cause information to dissapear forever...

Now, if you published a book instead...

All sarcasm aside, are they going after private blogs as well? Or just the fascist ones where they control content?

Re:Blog Take Downs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104509)

Uhm by official channels they mean the world of warcraft forums.

And yes, of course they can and will control the content on their boards.

Too bad servers are down.... (1)

Donjo (797935) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104496)

... and the instructions link is slashdotted. :(

How the sploit works (2, Informative)

ClutchUGA (212928) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104621)

From the FoH Boards: Apparently there is a gold dupe that happens when you zone in and out of the orange side entrance of Maraudon. I don't have the details unfortantly, so I couldn't say if its just a huge farce or the real deal. Anyone else able to confirm this? Edit: Apparently this is done with two people. Heres post I found over the issue. New edit is for the title to reflect the fact whole inventories can be duped. "Topic: I just duped 900g! Me and a friend were going to go to mauradon. He put a soulstone on me, then I zoned into the instance, but the loadbar didn't move. A minute later, It put me back outside the instance, and I no longer had a soulstone on me. Thats when I got an idea. I gave all my gold to my friend, zoned in, and when the same thing happened (no load bar, auto-zoned out), I had all my money and my friend had all the money I had given him. "

Am I the only one who thought of... (0, Redundant)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104497)

Am I the only one who thought of /. dupes when I read this article?

(Whether this post gets modded up as "Funny" or not will answer my question.)

Re:Am I the only one who thought of... (0)

Arctic Fox (105204) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104603)

No.

Re:Am I the only one who thought of... (1, Funny)

Arctic Fox (105204) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104630)

No..

And this is front page slashdot news how? (1, Flamebait)

krunk7 (748055) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104499)

Hey, everyone! I cheat at online games and wanted to share links on how you can do it too! Quick before they fix it!

What an asswipe. (included in that is the editors that decided slashdot would be an exploit source today)

The truth is flamebait!!? (-1, Offtopic)

0x1234 (741699) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104721)

Since when is the plain truth flamebait!? Which do you prefer; sensitivity or the truth? I would have mod'ed this Insightful myself.

D..U.... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104501)

DUPE!!!!!!!! THIS story is a DUPE!!!!!

Fun game while it lasted. (5, Insightful)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104507)

Fun game while it lasted, now I fear its gone the way of Diablo II. Many servers are allready swamped with duped items. Even if they fix the bugs it would require a roll back to address the economy problems. Such a roll back would cause many players such as myself to pack up and leave (whats the point of spending weeks doing somthing when it will just be undone in the next roll back?).
Ah well, it is just a game after all.

Re:Fun game while it lasted. (3, Insightful)

filtur (724994) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104564)

I hear you, I played a lot this week despite server lag and problems. I'm gone if there's a rollback. I've got better things to do then repeat another week of playing (well, maybe)

If there is a rollback, I feel sorry for the people that got elite items from some of the high level instances.

Re:Fun game while it lasted. (4, Insightful)

heXXXen (566121) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104617)

Thanks to the soulbinding system in World of Warcraft, it will never be like Diablo 2. It would take far more than 12 Krol Blades to ruin a server's economy. Those Krol Blades will eventually end up being vendored or disenchanted by their owners as they outgrow them, instead of staying in circulation.

Re:Fun game while it lasted. (4, Insightful)

kevin_conaway (585204) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104640)

No you won't. You and others have spent (wasted) what is probably an extraordinary amount of time in the game already. Why give up after losing just a week or so of changes? You'll accept it, keep playing and maybe grouse about it on Slashdot or a message board somewhere.

Re:Fun game while it lasted. (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104713)

Once they start doing roll backs they will keep doing it so long as jerks exist that seek to ruin the game. There is allready little enough to do in the game after you reach the 60th and final level. If they start undoing things at random times there will be even less. Why spend the time (and it takes a lot of it) to get the epic armor sets from Molten Core and such when it may just be taken away from you?

If they roll back I'm gone, there are other things to do with my time.

Re:Fun game while it lasted. (5, Insightful)

hagrin (896731) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104679)

Fact is, you won't leave.

MMORPGs such as Asheron's Call and EQ and UO have had rollbacks of up to 3 days worth of gameplay at great frustration to the user.

The consequences? Elimination of "most" of the bug's after effects and basically no drop is subscribers logged on. Most gamers of games such as MMORPGs aren't casual gamers due to the amount of time necessary to level, obtain items, complete quests and acquire the necessary in-game knowledge to actually enjoy these games. Therefore, the word addiction comes to mind and you won't leave no matter how much you bitch about rollbacks.

dealing with the culprit (4, Funny)

pr0nbot (313417) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104510)

Hmm... judging by the screenshots...

DELETE FROM user WHERE username LIKE "Gu%en";

Re:dealing with the culprit (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104534)

Ozzie Guillen is a duper? No wonder the white sox are doing so well.

Re:dealing with the culprit (2, Funny)

Frank T. Lofaro Jr. (142215) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104646)

"user" is a reserved word in SQL.

It would have to be something like this:

DELETE FROM usertable WHERE username LIKE "Gu%en";

ban them blizzard (3, Interesting)

GoatMonkey2112 (875417) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104511)

All it will take is for Blizzard to parse their logs to look for this. I'm hoping to see some accounts banned.

Too Late (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104513)

Somebody should have told Leeroy Jenkins about this one.

Re:Too Late (0, Offtopic)

RKenshin1 (899412) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104730)

LeeeeeeeeeeeROOOOOOOOOY!!

Fixed 'soon'? (1)

Rallion (711805) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104516)

Hell, it's probably fixed now.

Common sense (3, Interesting)

SpiritGod21 (884402) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104521)

Every server also went down for maintenance this morning and the web is being flooded with news of the exploit. Wonder how long it'll be before the exploit is fixed and the exploiters are banned. Good job blurring the name on the screenshot, but it won't take long for Blizzard to see who has that many epic items for sale on the auction house and put 2 and 2 together. Maybe it's just me, but when I agree to a terms of service, I tend to abide by it the same as I would any other contract. Does nobody care what they put their name to or agree to anymore?

Re:Common sense (-1, Troll)

beerman2k (521609) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104606)

when I agree to a terms of service, I tend to abide by it the same as I would any other contract

Yes, that was very important to me when i was 12 also.

Duping bugs in general (1)

luvirini (753157) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104523)

Many online games have sufferent from duping bugs at times but most of those have been quietly fixed, seems the fix on this one was simply too slow.. or they totally dropped the ball and did not have logging for such. If the system was prperly set up, they should be able to track the thing from logs and remove/undo any such actions.

Re:Duping bugs in general (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104583)

SWG had a credit dupe and from what I understand a large majority of the credits in the game were there because of the dupe. There were billions of duped credits.. well lots of people's accounts got banned, the entire economy was ruined, and I cancelled my account.

All in all. MMOs suck

MIRROR HERE (5, Informative)

firepacket (809106) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104528)

in the event that thread is closed or dead: http://www.firepacket.net/wowdupe.html [firepacket.net] BTW, what happened to that "unique id" that each item had that prevented anyone from ever having two of them?

Re:MIRROR HERE (1)

Dark-Arbiter (694995) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104570)

Well they do have unique id's, but if you give an item to someone else it clearly becomes a little different.. so it needs a new id right?

Re:MIRROR HERE (1)

firepacket (809106) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104614)

No, if you transfer an item to another player its supposed to retain its unique ID. Theres no reason to give it a new id because the old person doesnt have it anymore, make sense?

And it appeared in that screenshot items were being duped and sold, so the ID thing is BS?

Re:MIRROR HERE (0)

Dark-Arbiter (694995) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104672)

Alrighty I guess that last bit of sarcasm and general silly illogical-ness was completly lost. heh

Re:MIRROR HERE (1)

firepacket (809106) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104684)

haha sorry, the problem is that it *is* the way it worked in Diablo2 so i just thought you were a little confused :-p

Re:MIRROR HERE (1)

Thats_Pipe (837838) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104591)

The unique ID was only for ITEMS not GOLD. So much money gets tossed around in the economies of servers that you will waste a lot of disc space trying to log all of it.

Re:MIRROR HERE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104705)

There are unique items of which you can only have one but not a unique id, that was with SWG where everthing had it's own #. And the krol is only a epenis to be farmed by the chinese farmers as there are better BoP items.

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104532)

Every MMORPG since the dawn of this nonsense has had duping bugs throughout their existence. How is this news?

UI in image? (1)

jamus (1439) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104541)

What is the UI being used? Is the EXP/HK bar up top part of the same UI, or an add-on?

Re:UI in image? (2, Informative)

Donjo (797935) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104586)

Seems to be UUI, which is just a package of a bunch of smaller mods. The top bar is called Titan Panel if you want to download just that.

Re:UI in image? (1)

melted keyboard (798559) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104588)

The UI addon in question is called Titan Panel [curse-gaming.com]

Re:UI in image? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104595)

The bar is titan panel [curse-gaming.com] which has a bunch of fun plugins you can get and stuff. And some that come with it.

Oh god there's so many (-1, Offtopic)

Blibblob (868226) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104546)

WTS [WANG] x100 PST

See whatcha get? (1, Funny)

hcob$ (766699) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104551)

Wow, lovely little bug there. Hopefully my stuff on auction will go up alot since people will have a boat load of gold now. Noooo... we couldn't just earn the gold..... Of course if I wasn't working a real job in real life, I'd have my happy a$$ down there duping as well. Hey, maybe someone can dupe me a bunch of sour grapes for my return to Windrunner!

If this dupefix is anything like in Shadowbane.. (4, Interesting)

brxndxn (461473) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104552)

For every single dupefix, three new dupes are created. Goodbye, WoW economy..

In Shadowbane, the dupes didn't quite kill the game like originally thought. Instead, they reinforced the idea that 'rare' items needn't be that rare for a good pvp game. Rare items usually just mean someone spent more time to get them - and better pvp'ers don't necessarily spend more time playing the game.. So in Shadowbane, if your guild is a good experienced guild, you can completely stock your guilds' characters and many alts with the best pvp gear. Then, it all comes down to organization, experience, and how well each character is built to win in pvp.

PVE is lame. Anyone who has pvp'd in any decent pvp mmorpg knows that. Maybe if Wow's economy gets totally fucked, I'll give it a try. But, hell if I'm gonna spend hours and hours to make a perfect character with decked-out gear that doesn't involve pvp. /goes back to playing Shadowbane.

Re:If this dupefix is anything like in Shadowbane. (2, Funny)

daemones (188271) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104651)

Make sure to say hi to the other 5 Shadowbane players for me, thanks.

Shadowbane? lol. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104690)

Play a REAL PvP game like EVE.

Shadowbane is lame.

Like this needed to be posted on Slashdot (-1, Flamebait)

beldraen (94534) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104554)

At first I was going to harp that posting a series game problem on the front page of /. would be inappropriate due to the severe impact the flaw can have on the game, but I have reconsidered. Moderators, I have decided that this is wonderful news. So wonderful, in fact, that you should create a whole new sections for where to imbalance game economies (after all, it's just a game, right!), download pirated software (make sure it's laced with trojans, too!), kiddie porn (no ugly kids, Michael Jackson a moderator!), and the best ways to stalk without being caught (and hide the body without leaving evidence!). After all, this is news for nerds. They never said anything about responsible nerds.

DUPE! (3, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104557)

This story was already posted earlier [slashdot.org] . Oh wait...

Re:DUPE! (4, Funny)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104616)

Holy shit! And look at how many karma whores there are posting the exact same comments again!

Good job. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104565)

Not only make the how-to public, but also exposed Blizzhackers latest hiding spot.

1 is good, 1 is bad. You decide which.

www.worldofwarcraft.com (0)

Araxen (561411) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104579)

/. already. Good Work!

Re:www.worldofwarcraft.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104615)

www.worldofwarcraft.com is always down on maintenance days. Today is maintenance day. Nothing new here.

Re:www.worldofwarcraft.com (1)

endx7 (706884) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104691)

No, not slashdotted. Every tuesday morning maintainence occurs. All of the world of warcraft stuff tends to go down when this happens.

Kind of fed up (1)

Tufriast (824996) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104581)

They screwed up on D2, and let the guys that could have fixed it go and create ArenaNET, and now instances in this game are very, very messed up. Ok, so, whatever. If they do a rollback, they can kiss their playerbase bye. Their rep. is smeared by this a lot.

Duping in MMORPGs (5, Informative)

mister_llah (891540) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104582)

Ultima Online had this problem... a lot.

It really killed the gold market, everything was incredibly inflated because people would dupe 10 million gold checks (which are what they sound like, just a marker for 10 million gold) ...

It's not always trackable if you move it into items... trade it away, buy stuff from stores then resell it... it's like virtual money laundering...

Though that all depends on if/how WoW tracks gold, perhaps they've made improvements over UO (as UO is rather old) ... ;)

Dupe Info (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104585)

Ripped from the linked forums before they went down:

AND HERE THE DUPE FOR FREE SO DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THE FUCKING GAMEBUGS RIPPOFF SITE

Ok so I made enough to host the site for a couple months; So now it free you cheep bastards!

Only works once servers come up in the morning when the instance server is still loading;

1.) Player 1 hands player 2 XXX amount of gold
2.) Player 1 goes into instance, but gets kicked back out after waiting a period of time
3.) Player 1 receives the gold he traded and player 2 keeps the gold he received.
4.) Repeat for 10 minutes or until it stops working and you get inside the instance.

You can still give money if you want!

Quote:

This, most of the time, probably wont work, however when the instance servers are bugged, if you trade your gold to someone, walk into the instance (any that are bugged -- as in the bar does not load) after about a minute, it will kick you out of the loading screen and roll you back until before you walked into the instance.

Doing this, I got ~ 880g, before the server restarted to fix the problems.
(On the server Blackhand)

EDIT 2: The best way to bug the instances is to walk in and out of it fast.... confirmed instances this work on are Deadmines, Wailing Caverns, Scarlet Monastary, and Maraudon

QUOTE
[21:22] Rob: what I did was I was gonna run some friends through VC wayy this morning
[21:22] Rob: and the warlock soul stoned me
[21:22] Rob: and I walked in
[21:22] Rob: and the screen didnt load
[21:22] Rob: and then about a minute later it warped me out
[21:22] Rob: and I didnt have a soul stone
[21:23] Rob: so I traded him all my gold, walked in, waited a minute, got warped out, had my gold
[21:23] Rob: rinse and repeat =)

Hope that clearifies things up a bit..

You can only do the bug early in the morning after a server reset, have a friend to login with you and trade him your money (or vice versa) then the person who traded his money runs into the instance, waits about 1 minute - 1 minute and 30 seconds and gets booted out, he should have his money back if all worked well.

QUOTE
its like this

1. player 1 & 2 go to instance befor server shut down
2. as soon as server restarts login asap
3. player 1 gives player 2 all his money and/or items (not sure if items work or not)
4. player 1 then immediatly enters the instance
5. after about 1 min player 1 will be standing back with all his money and/or items and so will player 2
6. rinse and repeat

this will work for approximetly 10 mins after server restart, why you ask? well this is why...since 1.6 there has been a shitload of fucked up things going wrong if you havent notices i.e. players not dieing when you die...but in this case the world server loads and then it takes about 10 mins for the instance server to reload. why does this work? its a rollback...if you dont know what a rollback is im not explaining it and you probably shouldnt be in these forums and should fucker off...

Explanation of bug: Ah, a race condition issue... (4, Insightful)

nweaver (113078) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104589)

The reported bug:

On a heavily loaded server: You give your gold/item to a friend. You then enter an instance area. If you load, fine, no bug. If not, and it kicks you out after 1 minute (due to load), you still have your gold.

So obviously what is happening is that the "Failed to load" instance response is going back to some character checkpoint previously created, with this checkpoint being somewhat older.

The fix (which will probably be put in place by now) is to checkpoint the character when he/she attempts to enter an instance. So you aren't gonna be able to exploit this bug anymore. Sorry, 1AM3 CH3373RZ!

Also, if blizzard DID serial # all items, then it will be a pretty simple script to prune the duplicated items. But as they probably don't serial # gold, it might still have some economic disruption.

Re:Explanation of bug: Ah, a race condition issue. (5, Interesting)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104668)

They can still probably catch the people abusing the bug for gold. I know that less than a year after EQ came out, the GMs had available an economic report that showed them who had accumulated an unusual amount of money in a short amount of time.

As their machines got faster and they got more hard drive space, they started logging a *lot* more details. I'll go out on a limb and say Blizzard is doing something similar. I don't know how long the bug was being abused, so it's hard to tell whether anyone at Blizzard actually dropped the ball or whether it was just now being abused to the point where it was easily detectable.

In any case, they certainly know about it now ;)

Re:Explanation of bug: Ah, a race condition issue. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104700)

From parent:
But as they probably don't serial # gold, it might still have some economic disruption.

I have read several articles on the official forums since the launch of the game indicating that Blizzard does indeed track gold transactions. In one case, a guild bank was suspended because of the amount of gold the account was transferring on a routine basis. During the suspension, several members of the guild had items revoked (epic mounts, trade goods, etc.) that they had purchased using the guild bank's gold. The only way Blizzard could accurately revoke such items would be for them to keep track of the money trail.

Cheat or Exploit (2, Funny)

Jeet81 (613099) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104594)

Are you sure it's a exploit? Maybe it could be a cheat intentionally put in by the developers.

Like press the following in a sequence X Y A B 4 3 5 3 2 8 7 and then press all these together (probably with the help of your friend) Alt+Ctrl+Esc+Insert+Delete+F5

Then you will see you have unlocked all your levels but have crashed windows.

Alright... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104597)

Queue in all the jokes about Timothy being on WoW's coding team.

Slashdot and Blizzard sittin' in a tree (0)

Iriel (810009) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104613)

Seriously. I find it kind of hysterical that /. reports that Blizzard has been removing official forum posts on duping instructions and then we provide a link to someone with unofficial instructions. But now that the link is /.ed, we just helped Blizzard get rid of more sites with dupe bug instructions.

If this story dupes, check the unofficial instructions link to see if it changed ;)
</silliness>

not to rag on them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104618)

But blizzard has been known for ever to have wierd bugs like this. For example certain patches (i think it's 1.0.2 or something) of the mac and windows flavor of starcraft would let your human scv go careeening from one end of the map to the orhter. War Suck 3 had a few item dupe bugs. So does War Krak 2, it generally didn't make any difference. O ohr they can handle it like some muds do, quietly over look it and just as quietly let the "honest" players get something ungodly powerfull that doesn't drop and an insane amount of gold.

I'm sorry... (-1, Offtopic)

MrPerfekt (414248) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104633)

All I heard was "dork dork dork dork dork..."

Re:I'm sorry... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104734)

maybe that's because you have shit in your ears.

New jargon word (2, Funny)

b1t r0t (216468) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104643)

When the servers come up in the morning the instance server takes about 10 min longer than everything else for some dumb ass reason; So player 1 hands player 2 a stack of gold; Player one goes into instance and about a min later of trying to load gets rubberbanned back to the entrace and has the gold back on him as well as player 2; you keep doing that over and over; You can do it for about 10 minutes!

I know the guy meant "rubberbanded", but it's still a great word.

rubberbanned v. To be repeatedly banned from and attempt to return to a server or IRC channel.

Coral Link (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104652)

They never learn (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13104676)

I guess save on trade was too advanced a concept, even though every game seems to pick up a bug of this sort...

Something to pay with (0)

grilled-cheese (889107) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104688)

Finally I have something to pay the Nigerian royalty with so I can help them get crude oil out of their country.

How they'll fix this (1)

Ponzicar (861589) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104706)

If Blizzard is smart, then they'll have backups of all characters that are periodically made and saved separately. Thus all they need to do is load the backup from a few days ago, or last week or whatever. Sure, people will lose whatever they did between now and when the backup was made, but the economy will be saved, and people will bitch and moan a bit, then continue playing.

How to fix? Is a fix needed? (2, Interesting)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104714)

For a few days, people have been sitting in Ironforge just giving away gold. I assumed then, and now feel 99% sure, that these were people who'd used the dupes and were trying to muddy the waters - make it so that Blizzard would have to either completely screw over legitimate players who thought they were just getting a nice gift from people on "their side" etc.

So, what can be done to remove this stuff from the environment? Some are suggesting a rollback to the last maintenance spot, making people lose a week of progress (and, presumably, pissing off legitimate people/losing accounts) in order to get the duped stuff out of the economy. Does it even need to be removed?

I, personally, don't really care if it's there or not - the "economy" as it is seems pretty random anyway, and I'm not terribly bothered if some other player has things I don't.

Clearly they need to fix the actual exploit/bug, and hopefully remove the accounts of the people who actually did it (not that that will accomplish anything other than getting rid of a few suburban teens while the people who make real money off this just go buy a few more copies) but is it really that big a deal to the average player?

OMG (0)

Nightreaver (695006) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104719)

This changes "the world" as we know it.

[1 - General - Ironforge]: (-1, Offtopic)

Lanoitarus (732808) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104720)

WTS [Pristine Hide of the Beast]x100

Great (0)

NextGaurd (844638) | more than 9 years ago | (#13104725)

More inflation for everyone who doesn't cheat.
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