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Sixth DebConf Ends in Success

Hemos posted more than 8 years ago | from the great-news-for-debian dept.

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fabbe writes "The 6th annual Debian Developers Conference (DebConf) was held in Helsinki, Finland from July 10th to July 17th 2005. With over 300 registered participants from around 40 countries, this was the largest DebConf to date. More than 20 sponsors provided DebConf with a total budget of around 125,000 euros. The conference featured talks, workshops, demonstrations, coding marathons and round table discussions on various aspects of the Debian Project. The presentations were captured by the DebConf5 Video Team and are available online at at Debian's site. "

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configuring Debian (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156694)

A musty atmosphere of neglect pervaded the subbasement of University Library. The books on the shelves were covered in a fine layering of dust. There were dim lights over the small study cubicles at the end of each aisle between the towering shelves. The lights produced only enough illumination for the top of the desks, leaving the surrounding stacks and central walkway shrouded in a perpetual twilight.

I had finally found the copy of the heavy API guide I needed for my work connecting my SQL database to the graphical front end I had been slaving over all weekend. However, the intricacy of the cover of the neighboring book drew my attention and I brought it along to the desk for better inspection under the light. The cover looked a lot newer than the heavily thumbed volumes beside it. Emblazened
across the front was the title "Linux - Unleash the Power of your PC" together with a picture of a fat cartoonish looking penguin. As I opened the book I felt a strange buzzing in my head that quickly passed. I shrugged it off as my attention was drawn to a CD which dropped out and landed on the desk in front of me. It bore the same title as the book, together with something about 'Knoppix' which was a word I did not recognise.

I had heard of Linux though. The University ran Unix on some of their servers, although I rarely chose to interact with those systems. Perhaps I should broaden my horizons though. I liked to think I knew just about everything there was to know about using Windows, but you could never have too many strings to your bow. Almost without thinking I slipped the CD into my pocket and returned my attention to my work.

A date with my girlfriend Paige followed the work in the library. I was one of the few students on my CS course to actually have a partner since, although computers interested me and would one day be my means of making a living, I was careful not to get drawn into the geek subculture that seemed to pervade the department. Some of the guys with their nerdish glasses and unwashed t-shirts grunted at me strangely when I declined to join in their games of Counterstrike, but I reminded myself that while they were shut up in a grimy computer lab scoffing Cheetos I was getting laid on a regular basis.

That night in my dorm room while I was getting ready for bed, I remembered the CD in my pocket and fired up my laptop to take a look. I still couldn't make out what the strange messages flowing across the screen meant. Perhaps if I sounded them out their meaning would become clear. I tried to phonetically pronounce the words but they disappeared too quickly to be replaced with a blank screen. I gave up, turned off the light and climbed into bed.

The erotic dream started with Paige slowly caressing my back and buttocks. The caressing transitioned into an incredibly gentle massage starting at my neck and shoulders and running down my back. My butt cheeks were being massaged apart and I spread my legs and raised my rear as her hand reached underneath me from behind to stroke my erection. Her hand was very warm and felt wonderful as I started to slowly thrust into her hand as she started jerking me off. A huge long warm and moist tongue started playing over my testicles and anus. It felt fantastic. No one had ever licked me there before. I never knew how sensual it felt.

As her hot hand was expertly running up and down my rigid penis something started probing my anus. It snaked its way into my anal opening and it started slowly expanding. Suddenly I had the urge to move my bowels, but I didn't care, as my attention was totally focused on my imminent orgasm. My penis was released as Paige suddenly grabbed my sides and jammed her hips against my butt.

I woke up to find myself with my rear in the air. Someone was grabbing my sides and hitting my butt. I jolted fully awake as I felt something expanding in my rectum and realized I was being fucked. The cock in my butt was still expanding and was becoming painfully large. I thought I could actually feel it moving around in my guts like some kind of writhing python. I looked over my shoulder and my heart nearly stopped. The fat penguin from the book I'd found this morning was screwing me with obviousl delight.

He probably only stood about 3 feet high, but he was well proportioned. My shock wore off as I realized the cock in my guts was still expanding. I tried to stand up and fell off of the bed onto the floor as the penguin wrapped his flippers around my waist and planted his massive cock tightly into my rump. With the help of my desk I managed to stand up with him firmly clasped to my backside and his legs wrapped around my hips. I tried to pry his flippers from around my waist, but again I failed. He was amazingly strong.

My rectum was on fire and still the bastard's cock continued to grow. I could actually see my abdomen move as his monstrous penis slithered through my intestines causing my stomach to cramp. I slammed my back into the wall to try to crush him. All this did was push him harder into my rectum as his beak stabbed into the muscles of my back. I pitched forward trying to get away from the pointed bill and ran into my desk.

I could see the scren of my still open laptop. It was glowing and the lines of text which again flowed over the screen appeared to be written with florescent ink. Even in my panic I thought I could make out the faint sound of chanting in the distance: "Linux r0x0rs my b0x0r! RTFM n00b!"

I grabbed the laptop and slammed the cover down. A flash of light blinded me and an electrical shock shot up my arms making them tingle. The penguin let go of my waist and hips and fell heavily onto the floor with a thud. Despite lying on the floor and me still standing his cock was still in my guts. I quickly stepped away from him before he could recover. This ended up pulling about another foot of cock out of my rectum. His gargantuan snake of a penis plopped wetly onto the floor like an empty fireman's hose. It was at least four feet long.

I picked up a pitching wedge from my golf bag against the wall and holding the club like a baseball bat walked slowly over to his still prone form. He didn't seem to be recovering very fast. In fact he appeared to be barely breathing. As I approached he slowly turned his head towards me and spoke.

"Using Knoppix CD an invitation makes. Cut off from Open Source vitality withering does commence. Forever be you cursed for this most evil deed."

His pupils started to reflect an eerie reddish glow as he looked up at me. I felt a buzzing vibration in my groin as my cock suddenly shot up to become viciously erect. I blinked and my ears suddenly popped. When I looked back down at the penguin he was not on the floor anymore.

I ran to the light switch on the wall and turned the overhead light on. Using the golf club I lifted the covers on my bed up to look under the bed from a safe distance. Nothing there. I checked under my desk and then carefully opened my closet. He wasn't anywhere in my room. I sat down in my chair as my arms and legs started shaking as the adrenaline rush slowly passed.

My back and rear end were aching. I got up and looked at my back in the mirror over my dresser. There was a puncture wound from the sharp beak but it wasn't bleeding anymore and didn't appear too serious. My anus was another matter. I couldn't see my rectum, so I put my hand to it. I was wide open. I could fit my fist into my asshole. If I squeezed down, I could barely feel my sphincter tighten.

I put on some underwear and then wrapped a towel around myself and went down the hall to the shower. I took a long hot shower and gently cleaned my backside. It seemed that my anus was slowly contracting and returning to normal. Once back in my room I didn't think I would be able to fall asleep, but I was so exhausted I fell into a dreamless sleep.

When my alarm started buzzing I reflexively jumped out of bed, turned it off, wrapped a towel around my waist and with my eyes barely open I marched off to the shower with my shampoo and soap. I didn't wake up enough to remember what had happened the night before until the steamy water hit my face in the shower. It seemed like some sort of horrible nightmare. But I could feel the wound on my back and my anus burned and still felt very loose.

Worf meats his match. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156711)



After months of effort, young Wesley Crusher was ready to test his secret hologram portal program. The program made a small gap between the holodeck doors and the "environment" that was currently running, allowing Wesley and one other guest to open the door and observe the program without being seen by anyone inside. Ever since Wesley first saw Lt. Worf, his curiosity about Klingon mating habits was sparked. And every time he saw the tall, dark warrior, or even smelled that distinctly Klingon scent, Wesley could think of nothing else but the mysterious Klingon penis.

How big was it? Did it grow and throb like Wesley's? Was it surrounded with dark, kinky hair like Cmdr. Riker's? Would Worf let him touch it like Cmdr. Riker did? What did it taste like? Could it be even larger Cmdr. Riker's hot throbbing eight centimeters? Wesley had to know! His hand reached under the computer counsel and began stroking around his circumcision scars. How stupid he was for showing his mother that ancient Kellogg file he found while poking around in the sexual mutilation medical archives. He should have never accepted the passwords from Cmdr. Riker.

Anyway, it was time for the final test. Lt. Worf had entered the holodeck, and Wesley had primed him by discretely leaving erotica on Worf's counsel when he was out. He made his way down the hall until he came to the holodeck doors. Pretending to examine the reservation schedules, Wesley looked both ways before quickly typing in his password for the portal program. The door slid open, Wesley jumped in and the door closed behind him. It was just what he had wished for! There was Lt. Worf, naked, and a holographic Klingon female clinging to the upper branches of a holographic tree spitting down at him. "Oh, Fuck!" Wesley whispered in amazement at the pendulant, 40cm tool between Worf's legs, and seven hot, throbbing centimeters of pubescent flesh unsuccessfully attempted to rip through Star Fleet's latest, high tensile strength trouser fabric. Wesley had no choice but to soothe it. The going was awkward through the high-tech cloth. Its elasticity made inserting a hand difficult, so Wesley slipped them down to his ankles and went work. The spitting and threats continued until Worf's huge organ was fully erect. Worf was becoming an animal. A lusty husky musky animal!

Suddenly Worf collapsed. He lied on his back with his erection throbbing up vertically, tempting Wesley. Minutes slipped by as Wesley and the holographic Klingon female watched and waited. Wesley wanted to touch the huge organ, to taste it. He typed in his password again, and shut down the programs. An unconscious Lt. Worf lay waiting. Wesley kicked his shoes and trousers off his feet and went forward. He stood above Worf, hesitating. Was he dying? Could he still touch the great penis and then arrange for an emergency transport to sickbay before it was too late? Worf's smell was overwhelming. One hand vigorously manipulated the 14-year-old, seven centimeter, pink-white human penis, while the other slowly reached out to unsheathe the tribble-sized head on the flag pole in front of him. At the moment when pale thumb and index finger closed onto the ebony, horned foreskin...

"Wesley! Ensign Crusher! What were you doing here?"

It was Lt. Worf.

"Sir, I was walking by the holodeck doors and I saw a warning light flashing, and... oh, I hurt down there!"

"Quiet! You should never interfere with rituals you do NOT understand."

"What happened, Sir? I swear! I saw the warning light, and there you were..."

"A likely story."

"What are you hiding, sir? What is that dermal regenerator for?"

"See for yourself." Warf allowed the boy to sit up.

"My penis!" Where is it? This isn't fair!"

"I ate it." When Wesley awoke from the subsequent faint, Worf was dressed. "Ensign Crusher, I found your portal program. I am sure this will be the end of ALL your computer privileges."

"No, Lieutenant! Please!"

"You found yourself in the middle of a Klingon mating ritual, I suspect humans would call it a "possum" trick. I instinctively went to bite my mate's thigh, it is the beginning of that particular mating process, but I found a small piece of flesh stuck between my teeth instead." Worf bared his teeth and growled. There, next to the right incisor, hung a deflated, circumcised penis. Worf slapped his chest. "Worf to sickbay. Prepare to re-attach a small genital organ to a curious, human teenager. Oh, and beam a toothpick into holodeck 3."

"A toothpick , Lieutenant?" a woman's voice came back.

"Yes Mom, a toothpick! And hurry!"

"Worf, where are my balls!?"

"Balls? ...Testicles? Oh, they hang between the legs in humans. I had forgotten that. I must have swallowed them while I completed the ritual. Once you touch a Klingon egg sack, it is deposited in the female so that in can be exposed to her sperm. It is an instinctive process that must be completed before conscience thought returns. Anyway, you will not want your little organs for some time. My egg sack will slowly make its way through your body, looking for sperm. If it finds some... well let's not go into that. But certainly it will not be possible for you to have any sperm in your body for the life of the egg sack; seven years."

"Seven years!"

"Yes Ensign. Seven years. Approximately. I am sure Cmdr. Riker will be even more upset."

A question that has been bothering me: (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156715)

Do these confrences ever end in failure?

Re:A question that has been bothering me: (2, Interesting)

Darkon (206829) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156958)


Do these confrences ever end in failure?

This one [sco.com] might well do given the current climate.

Re:A question that has been bothering me: (1)

10scjed (695280) | more than 8 years ago | (#13159193)

It just means the conference closed out with a return code of 0

Success? (0, Flamebait)

October_30th (531777) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156717)

Hmm... what would have been seen as a failure? Just curious.

haha (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156808)

hot chicks showing up wearing microsoft t-shirts.

Re:haha (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156835)

Explain again how hot chicks showing up is "Failure".

Unless you mean the fact that they're wearing Microsoft t-shirts... Scartch that, any clothes at all.

Re:Success? (1)

suitepotato (863945) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157801)

Actually, I was going to ask this too. I mean, it's like saying in the news that someone "suffered an untimely death". Might they have "enjoyed a timely death"?

"Damn, Mr. Reaper. That was right on time. Another minute and it would have been really bad timing."

What WOULD failure be for this? They declared surrender and changed the base to Red Hat/Fedora Core? They decided that the new policy was too fast and people can't live at these speeds and we need to go back to the "when Hell freezes over" method of updates?

What the hell is failure for a Debian Conference? Most not getting drunk after hours at the bar with their friends? No one gets lucky with a geekette? What was the definition of success?

Seems weasel-worded to me. I think it would be better to say that the conference "went well" or "went wonderfully" or "narrowly avoided raid by local police".

Re:Success? (1)

poopdeville (841677) | more than 8 years ago | (#13158488)

Actually, I was going to ask this too. I mean, it's like saying in the news that someone "suffered an untimely death". Might they have "enjoyed a timely death"?

Except that when "suffer" is used as a transitive verb (which is to say, when it takes an object), it means primarily "to undergo or sustain [answers.com] ." Similarly, the primary definition of the noun "success" is "The achievement of something desired, planned, or attempted [answers.com] ." Evidently, the Debian team was attempting to make this the largest DebConf ever.

The Utnubu Project (4, Informative)

ballstothat (893605) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156720)

Perhaps one of the more interesting bits to emerge from this was the Utnubu project...

Link:
http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/59-Li nux-Ball-Utnubu.html [joachim-breitner.de]

I think Debian can learn a lot from the rapid success of Ubuntu, and hopefully this project will help heal some of the growing rifts between the two camps.

Re:The Utnubu Project (1)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156883)

I, for one, erase my Ubuntu partition and welcome our new Utunbu overlords!

Re:The Utnubu Project (1)

nurhussein (864532) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156963)

I, for one, erase my Ubuntu partition and welcome our new Utunbu overlords!

It's "Utnubu" dammit! Ubuntu for n00bs!

Re:The Utnubu Project (1)

electrichamster (703053) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156894)

Compact version of your sig:
10 PRINT "Balls To This Post"
20 GOTO 10

:P

Re:The Utnubu Project (1)

ballstothat (893605) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156933)

I have a hard time admitting that your cleaned-up version of my code will compile faster, but I'll admit defeat

However, it has always been my personal credo that it's "all about goto 10 loops". And frankly, I think that applies to all facets of life, not just BASIC programming.

Re:The Utnubu Project (2, Funny)

electrichamster (703053) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157008)

However, it has always been my personal credo that it's "all about goto 10 loops". And frankly, I think that applies to all facets of life, not just BASIC programming.
I think you'll find thats called obsessive compulsive disorder.

Re:The Utnubu Project (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156907)

Utnubu? Did they think Ubunto too easy to pronounce or something?

As if Ubuntu wasn't weird enough.. (1)

spaztech (899194) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156940)


As if telling everyone, "Here, have a copy of 'Ubuntu,'" wasn't bad enough. Now I can tell them I am also in full support of 'Utnubu' which is Ubuntu backwards. My coffee induced stutter is challenged enough. Seriously, I cringe everytime someone says, "OOB-WHAT-TOO?" as I hand them a copy.

Re:As if Ubuntu wasn't weird enough.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157466)

I'm sure Red Hat can put a lot of their sucess down to having a non-ridiculous name.

Mark Shuttleworth gave a talk on Ubuntu (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13158230)

Mark Shuttleworth gave a talk about the purpose of Ubuntu [debian.net] .

The video server is still responsive; there should be a mirror or two of that video, btw.

Did it help this issue ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156725)

Linux drivers are the problem that it is not mainstream. Any advances mentioned ?

Re:Did it help this issue ? (3, Insightful)

ssj_195 (827847) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156836)

The only possible things that could help with this are:

1) 100 programmers are hired full-time to reverse-engineer drivers;

2) More than a handful of manufacturers actually open up their specs;

3) Linux freezes its ABI, which I for one am not particularly in favour of.

None of these have happened, to my knowledge. Oh, and Linux Desktop has bigger problems than drivers, but those that can plausibly be solved via hard work are rapidly being addressed.

Re:Did it help this issue ? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157086)

are you nuts?

linuxsupport MORE hardware than windows XP does.

creative Audigy card? Linux supports it on first boot, XP you have to install the drivers from creative.

Nvidia video card? Xp requires drivers to be installed, Mandrake/mandriva installs them for me.

I can go on... you obviousally know nothing about linux.

Re:Did it help this issue ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157521)

are you an idiot?

support != working out of the box

most people define support as, "there exists a driver, which I can install on my system, without having to write any code of my own"

I can on... you obviousally know nothing about support.

Nice Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156732)

Last night was halloween, as I'm sure you celebrated -- I went as a french maid. 4.5" platform stilletto heels, red fishnets, the werks. I scared alot of people. especially with the fake bolld capsules. Anyway -- as for last nights dancing (& trying not to break my ankles in the process) the fresh anus piercing held up unusually well. If you have ever examined that area of your body, youve noticed the "fleshyness" of the skin about the 'pucker'. It was extremely easy & painless to pierce. No blood- or very little at that. And honestly no real discomfort. The absolute most difficult stage in the process is placing the jewelry (ESPECIALLY IF YOURE DOING IT YOURSELF.!!!) I have actually tried this particular area of the body for piercing before, about 3 years ago. It worked, but eventually wanted to grow out. This time, its got a good 3/4" asshole-skin to get through. I apologize for the graphic nature of my diction. Today, prior to its morning cleaning- consisting of Dial anti-bacterial liquid soap, a shower, etc- i noticed I wasnt able to see [and/or find]the top of the barbell ball. Aye de Mi! The holes were both still there, fresh and stretched to about a 14ga, just enough 'inhale' the barbell ends. I decided the barbell was a wee bit too short in length, and replaced it with a 5/8 14ga SScurved barbell. Sitting is even more pleasurable than before. It is a surprisingly protected area of the body. Not much gets to it. So you get the picture. Lets say youre on your knees, ass in the air. the top of the anal opening is where I placed my jewelry: //{(*)}\\ Initially, it was easyenough to use a 14ga needle with a 16ga 1/2" BB in the back of the needle, as trying to insert jewelry in that type of extreemly fleshy skin is & can be, literally, a pain in the ass. So i used the needle for both the piercing & an insertion tube. Mushy butt-flesh IS hard to manage. The Vertical nature of the piercing is just fine. I was concerned that bathroom issure might present a problem. But excrement from your own body is initially sterile, however funky. Pooing has not presented a problem. Wiping has become the tricky part. Some advice- wipe gently, almost dabbing where possible. Im not into scat, and think crap is rather nasty. Im also not one to judge, so I keep my ass as clean as possible. Especially in recent times. So far, the only noticible aftereffect, is that the skin between eentry & exit points has had some swelling, nothing like inflation, but definately noticible. It has become an eye-catching, interestingly pierced "butt-nub". And I adore it. I am planning to get a disposible camera or something in the very near future so I can send up some pictures, in about 2-3 weeks. They will be sent though. I have decided that the final jewelry for this piercing will be an L-bar of 14-12 ga. One last thing: I did not pierce through the sphincter muscle itself- only the skins which cover & protect it- the butt-nub area. To find out exactly what a butt-nub is, get a porno with chicks who have had ALOT of anal experience. They say a butt-nub is the first step to "trunk-butt". We will see. In anycase, mine's pierced. Of all the piercings Ive had & have, the anus piercing oozes a bit differently that the rest. Above all, keep keep the jewelrey clean. If it gets krusty, it will most likely lead to an infection. Anus piercing infections smell noticibly worse than others. for the obvious reasons.
Other than that, I cant say much more. Coughing & Sneezing, though, have taken on a whole new perspective...:)
I will be sure to let you know how all goes. And dont forget the picures! they're comming.

wow, no torrents.. (-1, Offtopic)

ghee22 (781277) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156751)

i just feel, ... like giving up. no one cares about torrents, no hosting server wants to set them up. bandwidth shamwidth, who cares? even though debian may not be the latest & greatest, that does not mean that they have to be as traditional on their website as well..

Re:wow, no torrents.. (-1, Offtopic)

zyklone (8959) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156820)

Noone who has enough bandwidth cares.
Torrents are for people without enough bandwidth.

Re:wow, no torrents.. (1)

electrichamster (703053) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156917)

Apparently noone who has enough bandwidth understands the bittorrent concept either.

Re:wow, no torrents.. (1)

Karora (214807) | more than 8 years ago | (#13161697)

We discussed having torrents, but the host for the videos supposedly has multiple Gb to the internet and is better able to handle streaming (if the client software supports it) than torrents.

I'd be interested to know what the bandwidth usage is, but I doubt that the bandwidth is challenged unless a lot of people are downloading 150MB videos by accident. I'd expect more cherry-picking than mirroring (it's a total of 7G or so).

Feel free to set up a torrent though - this is open source, scratch-your-own-itch territory, after all... :-)


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wow...RTFA! (3, Funny)

huckda (398277) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156787)

It's most interesting with pretty much zero insight as to what made it "successful"...

Re:wow...RTFA! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156868)

what made it "successful"...

Top 10 Reasons why DebConf was successful:

10. BSD is dead!
9. They met in Hel which is better than Hell.
8. Sponsors gave a lot of money to support a conference for an distrib that likes to be free.
7. They have videos!
6. They talked about President Bush: "From Pigs to Stripes"
5. The had a lunch break!
4. They want help from end-users and told you the difficult process that it involves.
3. They gave a presentation on goals including becoming current like every other distribution does on every release.
2. There were no non-geekish girls, girls have cooties after all.

1! They got on the front page of Slashdot with absolutely no content at all. Yay!

-- I am a Debian user and love it :) --

Re:wow...RTFA! (1)

NineNine (235196) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157306)

It's most interesting with pretty much zero insight as to what made it "successful"..

I think that it's implied that it was successful because a whopping 300 people registered. I'm not saying that this criteria is either good or bad, but that's what I take from the summary + article.

oh my fucking god. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156788)

Re:oh my fucking god. (1)

electrichamster (703053) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156943)

Gentlemen, start your wget's.

Re:oh my fucking god. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157191)

Gentlemen, start your wget's.

Could be wrong, but it appears they are limiting downloads to 2 connections per ip. All my 3rd downloads are spinning until one of the two running ones complete. Torrents, people.. PLEASE this is nuts!

Re:oh my fucking god. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157628)

Don't bother. I've download the first 30MiB and both girls are fucking ugly.

Re:oh my fucking god. (4, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157149)

It's amazing that "women in software" (of any kind) should raise a comment like "oh my fucking god." and "whoa. just whoa". You wonder why they shy away... A bunch of horny geeks getting excited over something completely mundane.

Get a grip and grow up.

For those of you that don't want to download the video: It's the opening slide for "Women in Debian and Free Open Source Sofware" by Magni Onsoien and Erin Clark (7/15/05).

Re:oh my fucking god. (0, Offtopic)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 8 years ago | (#13158394)

To be fair to the OP, later on a girl with really big boobs can be seen *ducks*

Erinn Clark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157614)

Of all the distros, Debian definitely has the best [blisted.org] looking [debian.org] geek chicks on board.

Re:oh my fucking god. (3, Informative)

alfino (173081) | more than 8 years ago | (#13158081)

I've had the pleasure to meet most of the Debian women at the debconf. And believe it or not: they were there to hack and improve Debian, not to serve as sexual attractors. Strangely, noone at debconf had a problem with that, or even thought otherwise. So why don't you (average slashdot reading horny male geek) go jack off to some porn site and not come back?

Re:oh my fucking god. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13159432)

Now that we have your attention... Do any of you know this Mitch Obrian fellow? (aka the troll)

Funny that nobody has mentioned the unisex sauna yet. Alas, no pictures!

Debian?!?!?! (-1, Flamebait)

Howard Beale (92386) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156846)

I thought they were dead!!!

Re:Debian?!?!?! (4, Funny)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157107)

I see dead operating systems, they're all around me, on servers shuffling traffic and packets, and they don't even know that they're dead

Ob "Monty Python and the Holy GPL" reference (1)

g2devi (898503) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160557)

MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead!
Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
SLASHDOT: Here's one -- nine pence.
DEBIAN: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: What?
SLASHDOT: Nothing -- here's your nine pence.
DEBIAN: I'm not dead!
MORTICIAN: Here -- he says he's not dead!
SLASHDOT: Yes, he is.
DEBIAN: I'm not!
MORTICIAN: He isn't.
SLASHDOT: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
DEBIAN: I'm getting better!
SLASHDOT: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment.
MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against regulations.
DEBIAN: I don't want to go on the cart!
SLASHDOT: Oh, don't be such a baby.
MORTICIAN: I can't take him...
DEBIAN: I feel fine!
SLASHDOT: Oh, do us a favor...
MORTICIAN: I can't.
SLASHDOT: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to SCO's -- they've lost nine today.
SLASHDOT: Well, when is your next round?
MORTICIAN: Thursday.
DEBIAN: I think I'll go for a walk.
SLASHDOT: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there something you can do?
DEBIAN: I feel happy... I feel happy.

"success"? Huh? (2, Funny)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156858)

Sixth DebConf Ends in Success

Success? Could it be different; I mean, successful here means "it was not cancelled"?

Re:"success"? Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13156938)

"Success" as in "the conference attendees were not attacked by a giant tentacled monster from outer space".

and their consensus... (5, Funny)

gik (256327) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156865)

"let's use redhat as our base distro from now on!"

(DUCKS)

Re:and their consensus... (1)

suitepotato (863945) | more than 8 years ago | (#13158030)

They also announced that the name was a joke gotten out of hand and no one could remember what it was anyways, so it will now be called "Debbie".

Lawyers for Little Debbie and several hundred thousand women named Deborah were audibly drooling.

Trekkies promised a write-in campaign saying that no one hearing the name would be in the slightest reminded of the Denebian Slime Eel reference anymore.

Define Success (2, Insightful)

ari_j (90255) | more than 8 years ago | (#13156890)

For some, success is holding a conference on schedule with no deaths or maimings. For others, it is deciding exactly what the goals are for the next release. The blurb does not tell us what success the conference actually met, and from the other comments so far it appears that the article doesn't, either.

Why not just say "Sixth DebConf Ends" instead of "...Ends in Success" when the additional words are meaningless?

Re:Define Success (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157453)

Of course. For Debian, success is defined as "relatively few deaths and maimings -- under a free license". HTH.

Congratulations Debian... (2, Funny)

pdbaby (609052) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157003)

...on the completion of DebConf 1998!

Ah but I do jest. Huzzah for Debian, my favourite distro

oblig torrent (1)

LinuxHam (52232) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157068)

Crap. I got two of the three vids before the site slowed to a crawl. Can someone please bundle the presentations and vids into a torrent?

Re:oblig torrent (1)

LinuxHam (52232) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157090)

Replying to self. I went right to the camp and didn't notice the hundreds of megs in each day's directory. I thought the days were going to hold the PPTs or PDFs. Sheesh.

NEWS: Skype might be next KaZaa? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157091)

First file excange, now some guy/gal [skype.com] made a "music-on-call" bot... What's wrong with this world? Do you want it on to be legeal too?

Question (1)

101percent (589072) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157155)

What really upsets me is they made their video files in something other than ogg theora. Why?

MPEG1 is playable for everyone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157483)

Ogg/Theora will be made available, eventually. So will DVDs, I hope. MPEG1 is the format that most people can play without installing extra software. MPEG-LA collects royalties for MPEG2 and MPEG4, so those are unsuitable.

Ogg/Theora requires extra software to be installed, even for many Linux users. Hence, Theora was not the first choice of the video team.

Re:MPEG1 is playable for everyone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13159625)

Ogg/Theora requires extra software to be installed, even for many Linux users

Then this should be the perfect occation to promote Theora and make those users install it. It's not that hard: just do a search for 'theora' in synaptic and click-n-install. I prefer the gstreamer-lib to go with totem-gstreamer.

Re:Question (1)

David McBride (183571) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157820)

Because they want as many people as possible to be able to play them. Ogg Theora support isn't as widespread as MPEG2.

Re:Question (4, Informative)

lspd (566786) | more than 8 years ago | (#13158090)

What really upsets me is they made their video files in something other than ogg theora. Why?

As a member of the Debconf video team, the guy that took all of the video home to finish processing, a Debian Developer and a Free Software nut, I'm probably as well qualified as anyone to answer this question.

In a nutshell it's mpeg rather than Theora because none of the people arguing now, after the fact, that it should have been done in Theora were volunteering to help when the actual work was underway. Ffmpeg is GPL, it's in Debian main, and it has no problem encoding to mpeg-1. There are enough stupid software patents to be relatively certain that both Theora and mpeg-1 infringe on some. If there is a valid freeness issue against mepg-1, file a bug against the ffmepg package.

Mpeg-1 allows anyone on any platform to view the files with minimal fuss. The results look remarkably good at the low bitrate used and AFAIK no one is running around suing over the use of mpeg-1. For a low bitrate encoding, what exactly does Theora add?

It's even more comical that some are saying we should have used Theora while others are arguing that we should make DVD images (mpeg-2, where patents are actively enforced.) You really can't please everyone.

Still, for anyone who wants the wholesome buzzword goodness of Theora, wait until we're finished processing the videos and Theora versions will be made available.

Re:Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13158663)

Well put, lpsd! (I'm Herman, btw)

We will try and please everyone, eventually. Compressing a week's worth of video several times in different formats takes a non-trivial amount of CPU time. By Debconf6 I hope we have sorted out how to do it timely and efficiently.

Re:Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160848)

As one of the DC5 video team members, I can tell you why: MPEG1 is patent-free and widely available. Theora/OGG streams are better quality and more hip, but we would be excluding a lot of users.

Some people have expressed an interest in creating a Theora/OGG compressed set, so your wish may still come to happen. But we had limited resources, and a ton of videos to capture and encode. Even with fast processors, we could not afford to be processing multiple versions "on the go", we had to do one, and move on to the next day.

Theora/OGG are not widely supported. Don't play in QT, MS Media Player, etc. So we went for least common denominator. This way, we have one guy complaining we aren't hip. The other way, it'd be a zillion people whining that they can't see it.

I am an end-user: Debian sucks (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157193)

Why is it that every time I apt-get update and apt-get upgrade my PC stops functioning from one broken package or another?
This kind of offline-ness never happens at work machine with the XP automatic updates.
Troll? Redundant? Heard it before? Well that doesn't help much.

You are using "testing" or "unstable"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157554)

If so, that's why.

Re:You are using "testing" or "unstable"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157641)

Well, a friend recommended "unstable" sources.list in order to get the latest and greatest in software packages. Now it's too late to go back to sarge and I'll just need to figure a way around the current no X problem (or install everything again like I know how).

Re:You are using "testing" or "unstable"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13159155)

Blame your friend, not Debian. They actively discourage end users from using Unstable. It is meant for developers working towards incorporating their packages into the Debian "framework."

In any event, it probably isn't too late to downgrade to Testing. Point your sources.list to Testing and try installing xserver-xfree86 and xserver-common. Work backwards from there, fixing any dependency issues.

Re:You are using "testing" or "unstable"? (1)

grolschie (610666) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160121)

Debian "unstable" is fine. Problems arise when people add unofficial sources to /etc/apt/sources.list

Re:I am an end-user: Debian sucks (1)

Sinus0idal (546109) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157768)

Maybe you have done an apt-get upgrade where an apt-get dist-upgrade may have been more apt ha, get it.

Taxiiiii

Successful end? (2, Insightful)

stienman (51024) | more than 8 years ago | (#13157425)


Sixth DebConf Ends in Success

Ok, so how exactly can a conference be unsuccessfully ended? Is this where the attendees launch a sit-in and prevent the conference from ending, or what?

It just seems like a hollow success.

"What was good about the conference you jsut attended sir?"
"Well, it ended. I'm quite thrilled by how well the organizers were able to get everyone to pack up and go - it was quite a success."

-Adam

Re:Successful end? (2, Funny)

Stauf (85247) | more than 8 years ago | (#13161654)

~$ debconf
Usage: debconf [options] command [args]
~$ echo $?
255
My debconf didn't end in success [clug.org] :(

Not in Helsinki (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157601)

BTW DebConf5 was held in Espoo, not in Helsinki.

slammed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13157667)

Hey, I got one frame in!

Phew... (4, Funny)

Momoru (837801) | more than 8 years ago | (#13158119)

Sixth DebConf Ends in Success

At least it wasn't like the previous five DebConf's which ended in bloodshed.

Re:Phew... (1)

Jim Hall (2985) | more than 8 years ago | (#13159936)

Sixth DebConf Ends in Success

Nope, doesn't help. For some reason, I'm still reading this headline as "Sith DebConf Ends in Success".

So now the Sith have organized, and it's no longer "one master, one apprentice." Damn. Time to get your lightsabers [parksabers.com] ready.

High level of comments (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13158200)

I must say that the slashdotters comments are very informative, analytical, well written and informative. More of this stuff please ...

Questions on current Sid (3, Interesting)

tyrione (134248) | more than 8 years ago | (#13158353)

Some questions (if these were addressed at the conference my apologies for asking here):
  • What is the status on KDE 3.4.1 and accompanying addons becoming current with X.org currently kludging its way through Sid?[alioth hasn't updated its 3.4.1 packages since early June, long before Branden submitted X.org into Sid.]
  • When the hell is GNUstep going to get rebuilt against Freetype 2.1.10?
  • When will the Debian Java Policy become standard and agree upon?
  • Should I just build my own local debs for Eclipse 3.1 or will they be released before 2010?
  • What is the status, or if a plan even exists, regarding Debian working on a seemless Wireless config subsystem similar to say OS X? [waproamd, ndiswrapper, etc are ductape building blocks]*

I am well aware that all these questions could be directed to a package manager, yet when it's broadcast to a higher level audience more attention helps overcome the inertia in place which always causes those package manager to accelerate their updates and/or be more pro-active on such concerns.

[Note: I would assume when municipalities adopt the OSS model they plan on having both wired and wireless options accessible to their employees that could only help us regular users in seeing improvements to a vitally overlooked section of networking]

Re:Questions on current Sid (4, Informative)

andersa (687550) | more than 8 years ago | (#13159142)

What is the status on KDE 3.4.1 and accompanying addons becoming current with X.org currently kludging its way through Sid?[alioth hasn't updated its 3.4.1 packages since early June, long before Branden submitted X.org into Sid.]

Everybody is working on the transition from GCC 3.3 to GCC 4. A big pile of packages have still to be rebuild. During that time the X Strike Force is working on getting Xorg to compile on all architectures. Once all that is in place. KDE 3.4.1 will be uploaded, and the bug squishing on that will begin. I'm guessing a month or so before a fully working KDE 3.4.1 is in sid, give a couple of months/take a week.. ;)

In the meantime you can still use Alioth KDE 3.4.1 packages with sid and xorg (Yes, Really!). You need to delete all aspell and libjack packages from sid, and get libaspell and libjack from testing, then KDE will install without problems. And hold off on upgrading once you have something that works, unless you are prepared to sort out the dependency issues that are bound to arise

Re:Questions on current Sid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13159250)

"I am well aware that all these questions could be directed to a package manager, yet when it's broadcast to a higher level audience more attention helps overcome the inertia in place which always causes those package manager to accelerate their updates and/or be more pro-active on such concerns."

You're assuming the packages managers read slashdot, and if they did that they carefully crawl through all comments?

My interpretation of your post (and I'm betting top dollar I am not along on this one) is that you are A.) too lazy to email the packages managers and B.) showing off.

Do us all a favour and just talk to the right people and stop showing off.

Re:Questions on current Sid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13159363)

s/along/alone/

Re:Questions on current Sid (3, Informative)

Overfiend (35917) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160475)

[alioth hasn't updated its 3.4.1 packages since early June, long before Branden submitted X.org into Sid.]

Correction: I didn't upload the X.Org X11 packages to unstable (sid). David Nusinow did. David has taken the lead on X.Org X11 responsibilities, as I have recently acquired others.

Doesn't stop me from helping out and doing commits, but I've been distancing myself from the actual package uploads over the past year or so. For example, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto handled most of the XFree86 4.3.0 uploads.

you FAIL 1t (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13159539)

800 w/51D2 Megs of

no roiting or violence is good (1)

achacha (139424) | more than 8 years ago | (#13161101)

At least there was no rioting, raping or pillaging, I would say it was a success. With these Debian people you can never tell which way things will go.

300-40-20 (1)

damicha (874252) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162234)

you say

300 participants (usually 15$ are industry sponsored at compatable events)

40 countries, makes less than 10 per each of 40 countries.........

20 sponsors.....

this is one sponsor every 15 participants.....

Are you sure about having the Debian numbers, not some DoD 'conference'?

If so, bye bye debian...........
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