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Apple Campus Missing From MSN Earth

timothy posted more than 8 years ago | from the take-a-memo-take-a-joke dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 413

webguru4god writes "The Register has an article detailing a significant omission from Microsoft's new Virtual Earth application. Apparently the satellite image view of 1 Infinite Loop in Cupertino, CA shows a large empty lot, whereas Google Maps shows the sprawling Apple campus. Hmmm, I wonder if the Google campus is missing too?"

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413 comments

It's just an old map (5, Informative)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160014)

The Microsoft picture is from pre-1994 as County Highway 85 does not exist south of Steven Creek Blvd. This part of the highway was opened in 1994. If you look closely, you can see that most of the land for the highway has been cleared, but none of it is paved.

Before Apple, the campus was the HQ of the now-defunct Four Phase Systems. The buidling was sufficiently damaged in the earthquake on 17 Oct 1989, that it was abandoned and eventually razed.

So much for conspiracy theories.

Re:It's just an old map (5, Funny)

MrAnnoyanceToYou (654053) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160044)

Interesting / amusing, however, that M$ uses 11 year old pictures for its maps. At least if it's a conspiracy they're a full decade behind on their grand master plan.

I think that's just MS way (3, Insightful)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160130)

Steal someone's idea, and do a halfassed job...

I'm sure it's not on purpose, it's just the way MS does things.
I've also read in the Register that the Twin Towers from WTC are still there.
I mean, wouldn't one of the beta testers check for that?

Re:It's just an old map (5, Interesting)

Mundocani (99058) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160219)

I live about 10 miles or so from the Apple campus and Microsoft's imagery of my neighborhood is suprisingly up-to-date. On Google, the strip mall next door still exists and my old garage is still standing, making those images 5 to 10 years old. In Microsoft's images the strip mall has been replaced by the current small commercial complex and condos and my new garage with solar panels is clearly visible.

I find it amusing that in the span of ten miles in a dense urban/suburban area they could both have such vastly different images. Google has current images for Apple's campus and Microsoft has old images. Google has old images for my neighborhood and Microsoft has current images. Makes me want to start searching for the seam between modern and 10 years old just to see if they try to blend them or just have a gross cut between them.

(and no, I'm not going to post my home address for people to compare images. I'm just too paranoid to do that :)

Exactly (2, Funny)

sterno (16320) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160047)

If you look at the area around the apple head quarters you can see a lot of undeveloped areas. There's a bunch of roads to the north which look like a housing development. In the MSN map, it's dirt, in the google map it's a bunch of houses.

So MSN's map service sucks apparently :)

Re:Exactly (2, Funny)

jalet (36114) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160149)

> So MSN's map service sucks apparently :)

Who would have thought ?

Re:Exactly (1)

Deagol (323173) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160245)

They're probably using the old cruft from their Terraserver project.

Re:It's just an old map (1)

Trillan (597339) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160051)

I don't think anyone thinks it is a conspiracy. It's just really amusing to see that MSN's Virtual Earth is apparently using images that are over ten years old.

Re:It's just an old map (2, Funny)

iocat (572367) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160205)

It's not like, super cheap, or easy to get high resolution, cloud-free shots of the Earth. At MSN's Virtual Earth's highest resolution, it the pictures are clearly taken by a plane, not a satellite (a LandSat or similar image would never have the resolving power to detect the hedge in my front yard). The USGS just doesn't do that crap everyday. Or rather they do, but it's a big country to take such large scale images of. I'm not surprised some images are years out of date.

On Google Maps, the highest resolution pix appear to be taken by satellite and are significantly lower resolution, although they probably are newer. (In either case, both services draw roads in Oakland, CA that no longer exist, and conflict with the photographic data...)

I didn't d/l the Google Earth app, because, that would require work, but I remember testing it when it was the old Keyhole technology and it was about the same quality as the MSN app.

Re:It's just an old map (2, Funny)

failure-man (870605) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160055)

So maybe it's no conspiracy, but it does mean that Microsoft is using ancient, shitty image sets for MSN Earth.

Absolute Non-Story PARANOIA (1)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160077)

You people are SO paranoid! There is really nothing going on here other than the fact that MSN's aerial pics have been out of date for quite some time, many go back to the 80's and early 90's. That's about it, guys.

Re:Absolute Non-Story PARANOIA (0, Troll)

shotfeel (235240) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160155)

And that's enough.

IMO it "shows" a lot about how MS competes. If you're the big dog, you don't have to be better, just louder. Its obvious MS didn't care about accuracy, only about being able to have marketing bullets.

Re:It's just an old map (4, Insightful)

RonnyJ (651856) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160108)

The Register article even later points out that MSN have photos still showing the WTC (pre-9/11) - obviously old photos. Still, it doesn't stop them (and /.) having a sensationalist headline.

Real story .... (5, Insightful)

taniwha (70410) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160123)

I completely agree - the real headline should be something like "Microsoft Virtual Earth Horribly out of Date"

Re:It's just an old map (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160177)

Naturally it's Timothy that posts this completely useless story trying to turn this into some sort of MS conspiracy.

It's not an old map. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160233)

It's a map... FROM THE FUTURE!!1

*disappears in a puff of smoke*

Re:It's just an old map (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160253)

It's either a conspiracy or horribly out of date... either way, they're sucking hard.

What's new? (4, Interesting)

BWJones (18351) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160016)

Like anything else in the technology world, Microsoft is behind the times a bit eh? :-) Either that, or Apple is testing a new version of their Reality Distortion Field that possesses visual enhancements on an entirely new level. I always knew that Apple has some great technology.

Seriously though, Microsoft's effort is still in development and what mattered to them was not the data per se, but the codebase behind the data as Microsoft is not interested (historically) in providing people with data or resources as much as they are interested in making money. Once the infrastructure is in place, Microsoft will wrap their map technology into other bits of software to sell GIS functionality in their handheld OS and other applications. It is an entirely different way of business than Google's model which wants to deliver information to people and make their product easy to use and informative even during development. They are smart enough to realize this approach builds a customer base much more effectively than if they were to get access to free, or almost free (and therefore less useful) data with which to populate their databases. It is an investment that has paid off along with their easy to use and intuitive interfaces deliver.

Re:What's new? (1)

shawn(at)fsu (447153) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160098)

Apple has developed noship technology?!?!

Re:What's new? (1)

Mr. Maestro (876173) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160194)

Don't the Klingons have a device like that? Or is the Romulons? I always get those -ons confused.

Re:What's new? (1)

Stephen VanDahm (88206) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160229)

Apple is testing a new version of their Reality Distortion Field that possesses visual enhancements on an entirely new level. I always knew that Apple has some great technology.

Yeah, clearly Apple's headquarters is protected by a cloaking device recovered from the lost city of the Ancients [gateworld.net] , probably to guard against industrial espionage.

Re:What's new? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160235)

Yeah, but MS TerraServer has been around forever, and the maps have been moldy forever. It's not like MS to leave a product in beta for so long...

Re:What's new? (1)

robertjw (728654) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160254)

...Microsoft is not interested (historically) in providing people with data or resources as much as they are interested in making money.

So let me guess, I'm going to have to purchase Virtual Earth SP1 to get the up to date maps. If I want maps from 1994 I can use the free ones, but to get current stuff I'll have to buy the service pack. Sounds like a typical Microsoft revenue model to me.

I estimate: 1989 (5, Informative)

seanadams.com (463190) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160017)

Apple opened 1 Infinite Loop in 1991 - I remember the building went up very quickly but I don't think it took less than 2 yrs. Highway 85 from 280 to down to 101 opened in 1994 - major sections of it were paved and complete for almost a year before it opened though. If you zoom in on the area around Rainbow Drive you can see some sport where they've barely begun excavation - I think it was around 1987 when they "eminent domained" the last few nearby properties out of there.

Scrolling around the map you can also see some condo complexes completely missing, which were build around that time.

Based on these landmarks (and more) you can tell that MSN's data for cupertino and its surrounding area is over 15 years old! Pitiful!

Re:I estimate: 1989 (1)

puppetman (131489) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160093)

So... in New York, does the World Trade Center still stand tall, proud and defiant?

Re:I estimate: 1989 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160135)

So... in New York, does the World Trade Center still stand tall, proud and defiant?

Bad choice of words...

Re:I estimate: 1989 (1)

ahertz (68721) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160183)

Actually, yes! [msn.com]

Re:I estimate: 1989 (1)

Zerbey (15536) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160211)

About 1999 in the case of my neighbourhood. Most of my area was thick woodland back then, now it's mostly sprawling suburbia :(.

The Google Maps picture is from early 2004, just before Charley knocked the remaining trees down.

Re:I estimate: 1989 (1)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160212)

Of course not! Let's all jump to the conclusion that M$ deliberately deleted Apple's HQ becase M$ hates Apple and M$ is evil!

Jesus gimmie a break.

Outdated photo or global conspiracy? (1)

tabacco (145317) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160018)

Hmm... could it possibly just be an old photo, seeing as there are constuction portables in the northeast corner and a now-nonexistant building in the south of the lot?

Not the only change.... (5, Funny)

gbulmash (688770) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160020)

This is a really interesting map. It's also missing the houses of everyone who was mean to Bill Gates in high school. The FSF headquarters have been replaced with a pirate ship, OSDL is replaced with an image of a black hole, and there's real time tracking of Linus Torvalds' location with a bullseye symbol.

- G

Re:Not the only change.... (1)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160056)

This is a really interesting map. It's also missing the houses of everyone who was mean to Bill Gates in high school. The FSF headquarters have been replaced with a pirate ship, OSDL is replaced with an image of a black hole,
and there's real time tracking of Linus Torvalds' location with a bullseye symbol.
Wow! Thank Goodness that Mycroft isn't a friend of Bill's. Although, if it shows Mr. Gate's home, I'm sure I could talk Mike into letting me use Little David's Sling for a few minutes.

burrow-dwelling rebel scum!! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160103)

Bloody Loonies!

Re:burrow-dwelling rebel scum!! (1)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160166)

Alright. Had all can take.

Throw rocks at 'em, Mike! Big Rocks!

Re:Not the only change.... (1)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160080)

OSDL is replaced with an
image of a black hole


Uh-huh.

-Peter

PS: If you see a break between "an" and "image" that slashdot, not me.

-P

Re:Not the only change.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160214)

Jesus Christ, man; did you have to sign your shit twice? Once is bad enough, with your identity screaming from the headers.

Re:Not the only change.... (1)

nihilonian (732362) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160107)

Hey, you can't blame them!!!! After all, it is named "Virtual" Earth.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=virtual [reference.com] states "Virtual" as "Existing in the mind, especially as a product of the imagination."

Re:Not the only change.... (0, Flamebait)

Hogwash McFly (678207) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160173)

Wow, an anti-MS joke (or is that M$ or MSFT?) on Slashdot that is actually funny? Jeez.

Fuck me, the next thing we'll know is that DNF has gone gold, Zonk posts his final dupe, and I'll have pulled a girl at 2 A.M. on a friday night who weighs less than 300 pounds...

It's Biblical, laugh! (5, Funny)

garcia (6573) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160023)

I know that most of you don't run IE but for those of us that do, Apple's HQ didn't appear as an empty lot, instead it looked like a fiery inferno with Jobs sitting on a throne of iPods!

I tried to find Google's campus on the map but all I could find was a serpent and a tree holding the most succulent fruit. Strange, I didn't think that their campus looked anything like that...

Microsoft's HQ, OTOH, was the Garden of Eden with little rabbits and naked nymphs running around. Bill was sitting there laughing because another person bought a copy of Windows and the fire grew brighter where Apple's HQ was supposed to be.

I was thinking God, I really need to switch to another browser, these exploits are of Biblical proportions and then I watched as Bill reached out from MSN Maps, grabbed me by the throat and said, "THEY AREN'T EXPLOITS!"

Scary!

Re:It's Biblical, laugh! (1)

WoodieR (860635) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160136)

they're undocumented features ...

Down boy, Down! (1, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160024)

I'm afraid that Microsoft didn't "delete" Apple, they just used data that's older than they are. My understanding is that Microsoft is using the USGS [usgs.gov] Topographical data, which tends to get updated whenever the USGS feels like it. Google, OTOH, uses proprietary data which is only a couple of years out of date (as opposed to decades).

Nice conspiracy theory guys, but I'm afraid that the Register is just having fun getting you all worked up. :-)

Re:Down boy, Down! (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160181)

Look at the right side, though, of where the Apple campus should be. Looks like a crude cut and paste job to me.

really old pix (1, Redundant)

Hackyourmacaroni (718792) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160026)

It's just a very out of date satellite image. some are even crazier, my house is a big empty field of grass.

There's a good reason for that (0, Redundant)

Tom7 (102298) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160027)

Yeah, well, the MSN maps are much older (I think the USGS ones from the mid-early 1990s) than the Google ones. For instance, it shows Carnegie Mellon's campus without many of its current buildings.

Ol picture (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160028)

Old picture, I suppose. Notice all the construction areas in the area around it.

older pics? (3, Funny)

ginotech (816751) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160030)

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.
How suiting...Anyway, aren't the MSN pics pretty old compared to google's anyway?

Re:older pics? (1)

Bradee-oh! (459922) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160114)

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.

Heh. Exactly

Microsoft outsourcing... (3, Funny)

silentbozo (542534) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160033)

Dangit, I told Bill not to outsource this project to those workers from that alternate universe!

Digg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160035)

Digg had this hours ago. Slashdot will have it now and hours later.

FIRST? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160036)

How about Yahoo's campus?

It also shows (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160037)

A large Borg cube moving away from the blast crater.

the truth (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160039)

it just means micro$oft is planning to buy appple and turn the building into a new parking lot.

For the lazy... (5, Informative)

op12 (830015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160043)

MSN's map [msn.com]
Google's Map [google.com]

Re:For the lazy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160076)

I'd like to point out another subtle difference I noticed between Firefox and IE...MSN has a slightly transparent header at the top of Virtual Earth for IE users, yet Firefox loads the bar completely opaque! Why must they make these stupid 'enhancements' when their actions clearly display malice toward the competition rather than emphasis on rich user experience overall?

MICROSOFT IS SO EVIL GRRRR

Re:For the lazy... (1)

GeneralHorel (851957) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160097)

MICROSOFT IS SO EVIL GRRRR
So whats new? This is Microsoft we're talking about

Re:For the lazy... (3, Informative)

br0ck (237309) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160105)

Also, for the lazy, the answer to:
I wonder if the Google campus is missing too?

Google [google.com]
MSN [msn.com]

OMG, It appears to be a dirt field on Both! Shock! Awe! Conspiracy!

Re:For the lazy... (1)

op12 (830015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160163)

The MSN link is still the Apple site. Apparently you have to click Permalink and bring up an annoying window to get the link to what you want.
MSN's map [msn.com]

Re:For the lazy... (1)

redKrane (672370) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160246)

Mod this guy up, this is progress, i like it.

MSN Earth? (1)

rd4tech (711615) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160045)

I wonder whats next...

Quote from Bill G... (4, Funny)

TiggertheMad (556308) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160048)

"Apple's campus missing? I had not scheduled phase 3 of the plant to begin until November. SMITHERS, you idiot, we have tipped our hand again!"

Grass (2, Interesting)

novadragoon (746815) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160049)

Why doesn't the apple campus have those lawns in the center shaped like apples?

This really is an original sin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160050)

God should have thought of this.

Ignorance before Malisciousness (4, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160062)

My theory is that this wasn't done on purpose, but it demonstrates that Google's sources are more "up to date" than Microsoft's.

As least, I hope so. Either way, it only erodes any kind of trust I'd have in a Microsoft solution for encyclopedias, maps, and so on. If they did it on purpose, then why should I trust them for anything? And if done in ignorance - then that means that their competitor has more accurate information.

Either way, it doesn't make Microsoft look good. Which, in a weird way, I almost feel bad about. I'd love to see Google with a real competitor if only because I like seeing competition, because it usually benefits me (the customer (but not consumer)) - but if Microsoft is only going to make a half-assed shot at it, then they may as well stay out of the game.

Of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong.

age (1)

Collin (41088) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160063)

how old are the msn earth photos vs the age of the apple campus?
the infinite loop campus has been around for at least 5 years, so msn must have some really old satellie images.

"Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence" (or in this case, outdated photos)

Google is much more evil (5, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160064)

Whenever I look at maps from Google Earth, I see they've laser-etched "Google" all over the Earth's surface from space. I mean, they even charred my roof with the upper part of the L ferchrissake!

Hilarious... but kinda creepy too (-1, Redundant)

under_score (65824) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160068)

It's child-like behavior to blot out the competition. Funny, cause it really only ends up hurting MSFT in the long term. Maybe not in a big way, but those few who might be wavering in the evil/good empire assessment might finally tip over the the MSFT-is-definitely-evil side :-)

Re:Hilarious... but kinda creepy too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160085)

Get a clue plz kthx.

Re:Hilarious... but kinda creepy too (1)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160095)

It's child-like behavior to blot out the competition. Funny, cause it really only ends up hurting MSFT in the long term.

No, it's just that Microsoft used really old USGS maps, and *you* really only end up looking like a giant roll of tinfoil...

Re:Hilarious... but kinda creepy too (1)

inertialmatrix (675777) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160228)

May I point out that the rest of the bay area as far as I can tell is all imaged with much more recent and hi rez images. In fact, it appears that it is just that one quadrant of Cupertino that is missing, and all the rest of the pictures of the bay area are of much much higher quality in terms of resolution than google maps.

Whoever working at Microsoft must have known that they were blocking out 1 Infinite Loop. I mean, the entire rest of Silicon Valley is there, why would Apple be the only

It was a pretty good prank/joke though. I still think it would be funny if google blocked out Redmond.

Evil or funny? (3, Funny)

Old VMS Junkie (739626) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160074)

If Microsoft deleted Apple, it's an evil conspiracy. If someone else deleted Microsoft (C'mon Google! DOOOOO EEEEEET!) it'd be funny. Just 'cause Billy is a Borg doesn't mean that everyone at Microsoft is humorless.

its what they want (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160082)

freudian intent?

Apple hire me (1)

camcorder (759720) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160090)

Then maybe your campus will be noticable from the top, you need a huge object.

If it's not built, it's not there (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160099)

"Microsoft's Earth deletes Apple HQ"

"Even more disturbing MSN's Virtual Earth still shows the twin towers of the World Trade Center in all their pre-9/11 glory."


Gee, I wonder if there's a relationship here... :-p

The Register sure have some l337 journalist and conclusion skillz.

They lie too, because AFAIK, they have no evidence Microsoft have "deleted" anything. A very strange choice of words if it's about looking on an outdated map.

Re:If it's not built, it's not there (1)

close_wait (697035) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160191)

Please look up satire in a dictionary...

Not to mention... (1)

ultramk (470198) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160101)

...the World Trade Center is still looming over Manhattan.

OK, I know they were panicked about Google Earth etc, but couldn't they have paid for better, more recent imagery?

Compared to Google Maps, this seems like a particularly half-assed effort.

m-

Google Campus == Former SGI Campus (2, Interesting)

masonbrown (208074) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160116)

Hmmm, I wonder if the Google campus is missing too?

Google now occupies the SGI Shoreline campus. Not sure when that was built though.....

is Apple an educational establishment ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160117)



lets see
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+campus [google.com]

This usually refers to the buildings and surroundings of a university where the university is the principal or sole occupier of an area. Many of the Universities founded in the 1960's and built outside towns and cities are called "Campus Universities" eg Lancaster, York. Universities where the buildings are more integrated with the city or town such as Liverpool and Manchester do not have readily definable "campuses"


nope no mention of a corporate headquarters/office there

ok lets try the dictionary

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=campus [reference.com]

nope no mention of a company there either

so please dont use the word "Campus" in respect to company property because its about as wrong as it gets.

Research! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160119)

Hmmm, I wonder if the Google campus is missing too?

Why don't you check so we don't have to? This is not a philosophical hypothetical like so much of the dumb commentary on slashdot! It's a simple thing to look up!

(Yes, I see the irony of me not saying whether it's on there. I don't care whether it is or not. My point is that it's a stupid ponderance that doesn't belong in the summary.)

Apple must be testing their new technology... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160124)

...the iCloak.

Not deleted (1)

dtfinch (661405) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160132)

Just ancient. MSN shows a detailed photo of my city from probably 20+ years ago, while Google shows a very low resolution, but recent photo.

Vista is starting to look nice... (1)

johkir (716957) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160138)

now that we got those buildings out of the way.

never mind Apple: the Twin Towers are still there! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160141)

have a look for yourself [msn.com] . Somewhere, Osama Bin Laden is looking at this map being very confused. "Wait a minute, is that...? Achmed, what the #%^@% are we doing in this cave?"

Google is there (3, Interesting)

Percent Man (756972) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160144)

"I wonder if the Google campus is missing too?"

As kevcol [slashdot.org] pointed out, you can clearly see their campus [catatonic.org] - in fact, arguably it's more clear that Google's own version [catatonic.org] of the same spot.

Must be the old Terra Server maps from '97... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160157)

My entire neighborhood doesn't exist. Jesus! My office is gone, my apartment, all the businesses in the area...

These must be the same maps that MS had with TerraServer back in '97. That's the only way to explain it. They were black and white as well.

Other missing parts (1)

jurt1235 (834677) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160159)

OSDL is missing
There is a weird penquin shaped part out of Finland
The Netherlands (will follow in about a year, they are always a year behind).

After 3 Seconds of playing with MSN Virtual Earth (2, Interesting)

MontyP (26575) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160162)

I found that MSN Virtual Earth fails to register your mouse button release. If you leave the map area with your mouse button clicked

ex:
Moving your cursor to the Tool bar in Mozilla/Firefox
Or to a different monitor if you are using IE...

When you return your cursor to the map, it will move without having to click your mouse...

Sweet.

Black Laser Technology (2, Funny)

4of12 (97621) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160167)

Steve Jobs's penchant for high absorptivity wardrobe combined with his obsession for personal privacy probably explains why MS sees nothing.

cheating...as usual (1)

PureCreditor (300490) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160172)

wasn't a while ago that if u search "search engines" on MSN, google.com is not even in Top 5 ?

It's Virtual... (1)

nihilonian (732362) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160179)

Hey, you can't blame them!!!! After all, it is named "Virtual" Earth.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=virtual [reference.com] states "Virtual" as "Existing in the mind, especially as a product of the imagination."

Google campus (1)

WTBF (893340) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160185)

Hmmm, I wonder if the Google campus is missing too?

Well it is missing from Google maps itself (search for 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View. If google doesn't have it then I doubt Microsoft would have it.

1989 called... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160187)

It wants its joke back!

Browser compability (1)

DimJim (887667) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160201)

MSN version works fine with my trusty K-Meleon http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] but GoogleEarth just gives the top bar. M$ secretly supporting Windows only mozilla browser?

Really cool! (5, Funny)

LesPaul75 (571752) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160204)

Wow, I just tried out the MSN maps thing for the first time, and I gotta say, it kicks ass! The way you can click-and-drag the map around is spectacular. And the way you can switch between the satellite view and the regular map is sweeeeeet!! Holy cow, you can even search for local businesses right on the map! WOW! Try it out -- just type in anything, like "hotels near lax" or "pizza" and prepare to be amazed!

See people, you guys badmouth Microsoft all the time, but these guys obviously know how to innovate! All you slashdot trolls just got PWNED by Microsoft, baby. WOOT!!1

</sarcasm>

Slashdot needs a new "Sensationalism" category (2, Insightful)

mabu (178417) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160207)

to hold stories of this nature, which wildly jump to erroneous conclusions.

Microsoft was apparently too cheap to purchase more recent satellite imagery so they got old, crappy data. Google's is more recent.

Nothing here to see folks except a few people with short attention spans that don't do adequate research.

The mods are to be blamed for this. Just today I had a story rejected that had more information than the one published, but it wasn't as pointed in its title.

Now for Area 51... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13160209)

And it is a great empty box on MSN. But you can find it on MSN Virtual Earth at Groom, NV [msn.com] which isn't available from Google. But Google has a much better sat photo here [google.com] , easily found just west of Alamo, NV. Oh, wait, that isn't there.

I had lots of fun (1)

Dominic Burns (673810) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160210)

clicking between the two browser tabs to see which would win the download race.

Sad, I know.

PS, neither won and, if you're really nerdy, I have a 2.5Mb connection.

No, I didn't measure it beyond that. Who on earth would bother? For Christ's sake, get some perspective! It's a couple of maps that have zero meaning to the majority of people. The fact that two companies are looking to screw everyone and each other over is moot! Hell, if you w^^^^^NO CARRIER

**sounds of head being blugeoned by a Russian**

Only Apple? (1)

Exitar (809068) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160217)

With IE 5.0 I can't see anything, just the upper frame. And I got an error message...
No problem with FF...

You think thats bad? (1)

fliplap (113705) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160232)

You haven't even seen Google's Mr-Burns-like plans to turn day into night and force everyone to live by the bright white screen of google! You can see the shocking progress here [google.com] as they begin thier sweep of the less populated parts of California!

old data (1)

Danzigism (881294) | more than 8 years ago | (#13160255)

not missing.. its just old geographic data.. the satelite images msn uses are fuckin old as shit in comparison to the ones from google maps, which were taken approximately 5 years ago.. even google's is old time shit.. they all need to get new images.. it just costs a shit load of money.. heh
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