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Japan Wants to Build 10 Petaflop Supercomputer

timothy posted more than 8 years ago | from the can't-possibly-beat-wopr dept.

Supercomputing 353

deepexplorer writes "Japan wants to gain the fastest supercomputer spot back. Japan wants to develop a supercomputer that can operate at 10 petaflops, or 10 quadrillion calculations per second, which is 73 times faster than the Blue Gene. Current fastest supercomputer is the partially finished Blue Gene is capable of 136.8 teraflops and the target when finished is 360 teraflops."

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I want! I want! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162306)

Well I want a Stargate, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna get one. I bet OpenOffice.org will still take 5 minutes to start on it.

Re:I want! I want! (2, Funny)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162552)

Well I want a Stargate, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna get one. I bet OpenOffice.org will still take 5 minutes to start on it.

I didn't realize that Stargates ran Linux...

Re:I want! I want! (1)

MSTCrow5429 (642744) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162566)

The computer inferface to the Stargate at the SGC could run Linux. It's not clear what OS the Stargates themselves run, if any.

What the article doesn't say (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162308)

The supercomputer will be pocket-sized and ran on two AA batteries.

Re:What the article doesn't say (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162416)

Will it look kind of like this? [exclamatio...ystore.com]

Ahh (5, Funny)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162313)

I see they are upgrading to get ready for Longhorn.

This just in: (5, Funny)

GuitarNeophyte (636993) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162369)

The top news story of the hour:

Microsoft chairman, Bill Gates, has announced yet a new version of the Windows Operating system. Trying to take advantage of the obvious new market of supercomputers, the computer giant is ready to release Windows SC. The new operating system, designed to beat the Japanese domination in computing power, as well as the Russians in spam-distribution, will link all computers running the operating system into one giant spam^H^H^H^Hcommercial marketing distribution center.

Luke
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Tired of answering tons of basic computer questions for friends and family? Send them to ChristianNerds.com [christiannerds.com] instead!

Re:Ahh (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162409)

Yeah. It's a Windows Longhorn test system that can determine all the sercurity and system vulnerabilities in a matter of seconds instead of weeks. Windows still crashes but now you don't have to wait. ;)

Re:Ahh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162457)

To quote Mad Max from "The Road Warrior" in regards to them contacting me, to build it, of course:

"You talk to me!"

* :)

APK

P.S.=> I'd get them the results! Speed if done right is nothing more than money & common-sense... lol along with, the budget & designs I'd use? SuperCooling & 4x SolidState drives raid arrayed into 16gb units all the way as some starters... TONS more! It'd cost though... then, would come the OS technology - which is best for clustering, because that's what I'd employ vs. some TPC type benchmark synthetic (for whatever that means)... Windows Server 2003, but done MY way! apk

136.8 teaflops (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162314)

These 136.8 teaflops could have been avoided if the proper specifications were used before hardware development and programming began. Essential tea technical info. [bbc.co.uk]

Re:136.8 teaflops (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162398)

Actually, this is a key component of the infinite improbability drive when combined with not teaflops.

Re:136.8 teaflops (0, Offtopic)

hackwrench (573697) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162412)

What I want to know is how do you boil a kettle and pour a little bit of it into a teapot, how does boiling make the tea any stronger than simply leaving the teabag in for a long while? Also, whether the tea goes into the milk or the milk into the tea, shouldn't the result be the same?

Re:136.8 teaflops (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162489)

I'm not even English and can answer this stuff:

"how does boiling make the tea any stronger than simply leaving the teabag in for a long while?"

The hotter the water, the more bits of tea that get broken up. Think of it this way...if you can smell something, little bits of it are inside your nose.

"Also, whether the tea goes into the milk or the milk into the tea, shouldn't the result be the same?"

I prefer to add the milk first...then, when I pour in the tea, it basically stirs itself. If the milk goes in last, I have to stir it.

Re:136.8 teaflops (1)

IWannaBeAnAC (653701) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162493)

For your second question, if you pour milk into boiling water, the milk will be scalded because the small amount of milk is rapidly heated to the same temperature as the water. Try boiling some milk and letting it cool down, you will find it tastes quite different (and not nice, IMO).

For your first question, I do not know the explanation but it is certainly true that the hotter the water the better the tea. Leaving the tea leaves (or bag) in the water too long ends up with a strange 'stewed' flavour that is undrinkable.

Re:136.8 teaflops (1)

tbjw (760188) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162511)

From my own experience, I should think that the rate at which various flavoursome elements of the tea infuse depends on the temperature of the water. Pouring cooler water on the teabag and leaving it for longer seems (no double blind tests here) to result in a cup that tastes more heavily of tannin.

Also, if you put the milk in first, the hot tea doesn't fall on cold china; the effect is to prevent the china from cracking for longer. This is why this is socially unacceptable, it means you have inferior china you need to preserve.

Re:136.8 teaflops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162514)

You are probably an American who likes the coffee stewed on the burner for several hours instead of freshly brewed with extra beans.

Re:136.8 teaflops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162513)

Bloody English units.
Should have used Translated Libraries of Congress.

My Windows Box is Faster (-1, Offtopic)

kai.chan (795863) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162316)

No matter what they build, they can never compete with my Windows box with a record of Always-Flops.

Tea Flops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162319)

Seriously, folks! I thought we decided we were going to start trying!

Eh? (-1, Redundant)

jo42 (227475) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162322)

Wot's a "teaflop"?

Re:Eh? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162339)

The British version of the teraflop ?

BlueGene/C will be finished soon (5, Interesting)

Raul654 (453029) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162323)

BlueGene/L is the fastest super computer at the moment; however, BlueGene/C (which, for the record, I'm working on as part of my PhD) will be finished very soon (it was supposed to be out of the foundry by the end of August, but the project is running slightly behind schedule). I'm told there are, as yet, no plans to publish any performance benchmarks.

Re:BlueGene/C will be finished soon (4, Interesting)

hazzey (679052) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162453)

Is there a reason why they aren't even close to alphabetical order?

Do the letters stand for something else?

Re:BlueGene/C will be finished soon (3, Interesting)

mfloy (899187) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162462)

I'm obviously not as close to the source as you are, but aren't there other computers in the BlueGene family being worked on also, that will be faster than both L and C? The quote of the Japanese computer being 73 times faster than BlueGene/L, but by the time the computer is actually built I will be suprised if it is faster than the current incarnation of BlueGene. IBM has been doing some great work as far as supercomputing goes, working on it must be a blast.

Re:BlueGene/C will be finished soon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162539)

Hasn't RIT yet. RIT plus TAT equals no chips until EOY 2005. Don't hold your breath.

And it's an ASIC, not foundry, man.

It's just like the "first to space" race (-1, Redundant)

GuitarNeophyte (636993) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162325)

It's just like the "first to space" race, but without a concrete final goal.

Let's see who can get furthur into space!

Luke
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Tired of answering tons of basic computer questions for friends and family? Send them to ChristianNerds.com [christiannerds.com] instead!

WTF is a Teaflop?? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162329)

Teaflop, eh? Is this a new measure of computing speed? How many Teaflops are in a Teapotflop? ;p

If the project fails (5, Funny)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162330)

If funding runs out for this one, they'll end up with a 1 Belly-flop supercomputer

*ba-dum-dum ching!*

Japan wants a 10 petaflop supercomputer... (5, Funny)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162331)

...and I want a pony.

Guess which two things aren't happening anytime soon?

Re:Japan wants a 10 petaflop supercomputer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162440)

...and I want a pony.

Guess which two things aren't happening anytime soon?


1) you're not getting a pony

2) you're not getting laid either

what did i win?

Re:Japan wants a 10 petaflop supercomputer... (1, Funny)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162528)

Oops, I'm getting married! [daveandvalerie.com]

So I'd say you're definitely wrong, and I guess I might get a pony after all!

But Japan still won't get a 10Pflop supercomputer.

But thanks for your concern!

Kill Karl Rove (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162341)

The only punishment appropriate for treason is death, no matter the political party of the accused. Karl Rove deserves death, and would continue to deserve death if he switched party affiliations this very day. The fact that so many Americans provide vapid apologetics for his treason is proof enough of the decline of the American empire, for it takes deeper characteristics than military might to make a truly great nation.

Getting a little ahead of themselves? (5, Funny)

Valarauk (670014) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162346)

I mean seriously... Doom 4 isn't even out yet.

Re:Getting a little ahead of themselves? (3, Funny)

inu_maru (843192) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162475)

Of course is not meant for Doom 4... is for a date Simulator!

To put 10 Petaflops in perspective (0, Offtopic)

hongree (902595) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162351)

"The supercomputer has a performing capacity equivalent to 500,000 high-functioning computers, the business daily said." Forbes, June 22, 2005 [forbes.com] Haha ha [overheardintheuk.com] .

Re:To put 10 Petaflops in perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162394)

Would you just fucking die already? Nobody wants to go to your stupid fucking blog.

Re:To put 10 Petaflops in perspective (1)

suitepotato (863945) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162478)

"The supercomputer has a performing capacity equivalent to 500,000 high-functioning computers, the business daily said." Forbes, June 22, 2005 Haha ha.

Now if only we could find 500,000 high-functioning computer users who didn't magically have the unerring ability to turn a machine that powerful into a sluggish virus infested mess in five minutes flat of free pr0n surfing. Now that would be an accomplishment.

I've seen better (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162352)

Big deal, the white mice have had this beat for years...

Get them out of the way... (0, Redundant)

krautcanman (609042) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162361)

Well *somebody* has to say it:

What we all want to know ... does it run linux?

In Soviet Russia super computer teaflop YOU!

i'm sorry .... so sorry. it had to be done.

Re:Get them out of the way... (1)

GaryOlson (737642) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162408)

Yes it will run Linux....after you recompile the kernel 2,048 times. But, the system is so fast, if a dependency error occurs the system will try all possible permutations of the missing componenet until it succeeds.

Optimized Gentoo without the need for a geek strung out on Mountain Dew.

Re:Get them out of the way... (1)

cbreaker (561297) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162450)

"i'm sorry .... so sorry. it had to be done."

No it didn't.

What are you, 10?

Mommy, mommy (5, Funny)

icepick72 (834363) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162367)

Japan wants to gain the fastest supercomputer spot back.
Japan wants to develop ...

Japan wants a lot of things now doesn't it. Well, Japan will just have to be a good little country and maybe Santa will come.

Re:Mommy, mommy (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162395)

Are you taking grudge from WWII ? Get over with it. They still kick ass in technology and make better AS WELL AS cheaper cars.

Japanese AI project. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162431)

Well that whole AI program they had several years back didn't work out.

---
The "are you a script" word for today is gypsies

You call this news? (0, Troll)

GaryOlson (737642) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162372)

A government flunky (whose relation to the prime minister is more important than his skills) creates a grand scheme to spend taxpayer dollars for a "good cause".

Did we export the US political parties to Japan?

Do the Bushes or Clintons have relatives in Japan?

japan's new hotbox (5, Funny)

medep (830402) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162381)

japan is thinking "but we just bought this computer, it's obsolete already? shit a brick!" anyone in the market for a slightly used supercomputer?

Re:japan's new hotbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162420)

The Earth Simulator was at the top of the list for a ridiculously long time.

Duke Nukem Forever (1)

Hyperhaplo (575219) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162386)

Someone should have told them that using Duke Nukem Forever to test with was a bad idea.. perhaps they can use Quake 4?

this is amazing (1)

Ryunosuke (576755) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162392)

I can't believe there will be a computer that will actually play Diakatana at 1200x1600 in my lifetime

Re:this is amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162563)

You are the most retarded douche bag fucksmear that there ever was. It's 1600x1200 you fucking turdsmear idiot. If you knew anything about ANYTHING you would be a whole lot less stupid-fucking-retarded. You need to make an honest attempt to be less of a fucksmear douchebag. Thank you.

This was a joke. and a correction. SMILE! ;)

Designed for Windows Vista (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162397)

And will be the only computer with the sticker Designed for Windows Vista.

Man... (3, Funny)

Lobster Cowboy (605052) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162410)

The Japanese are really sensitive about the whole "small penis" thing.

Re:Man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162466)

The Japanese may be sensitive about their small penises, but at least they have a wanking machine [google.com] with interchangable sleeves for man with "thin meat"

Re:Man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162490)

That's why they're building this huge mass emailing system to fight this terrible social problem with penis enlargement pills.

worth the watts? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162435)

given current (no pun intended) tech, this is going to require huge amounts of electricity. will the results be worth it?

Fast enough to do proper spellchecking (5, Funny)

IoN_PuLse (788965) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162449)

If only there was a supercomputer that could revise news posts before they go live? It could be in the form of *gasp* an editor!?

Imagine... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162458)

...a Beowulf cluster of....oh, never mind.

Overclock (2, Insightful)

3770 (560838) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162464)

Big deal!!!

I only have to overclock my Pentium 4 83000 times to beat that little pocket calculator.

(Pentium 4 3.06 GHz has a theoretical max of 12 Gigaflops)

Dr Freud what do you think of my new computer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162484)

I understand the need for speed when doing simulations but you have to wonder how much of this is a Freudian need for a bigger computer to top the competition? There's generally more talk of the computer's size than it's capibilities.

Re:Dr Freud what do you think of my new computer? (0)

elgee (308600) | more than 8 years ago | (#13162557)

I understand the need for speed when doing simulations but you have to wonder how much of this is a Freudian need for a bigger computer to top the competition?

Maybe you need to start measuring PeterFlops.

Go ahead and give me an Offtopic. I am COLLECTING them.

Dyhurrrrr! Fast computer now time to play games!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162492)

Fast comptuer! Faaast computerrr! Games porn gigafloops!!!!!1

I make funy joke because I'm a clueless fucking nerd who only knows how to admin a redhatbox and uses slashdot to get away from my pointless existance!

Look at me here's a WoW and anime joke:

I bet you can play QUake and Doom 33333 at the same time!

I am a smart man! Why is my job being outsourced to a bunch of brown peopel?!!?!?!?

It's all bush's fault dyurrr I know politics!

:O (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162512)

That's all well and good but, does it have a decent graphics card. Carmack needs to know.

Whatever Japan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162527)

I'm cool with it, just as long as you can find it within you means to not outfit the computer with ten thousand flashing lights, fins, spikes, a jetpack, and a prepubescent boy pilot.

I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162529)

Soooo...why? What **special** purpose would the supercomputer serve rather than bragging rights?

Why (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162531)

So why are they building the computer? Is there a specific project in mind or do they just want the fastest?

Those Peta-philes (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162569)

This just proves that the japanese are all peta-philes. Just look at their porn!

I hope they get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13162571)

I won't mind a Japanese supercomputer, but it had better have a frickin' short-throw Hurst in it.

And a 4:11 rear end. And an Edelbrock High Rise.

It had better be the Anti-Rice or I'm comin' over the table for them.
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