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W00t (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165132)

I just farted.

Re:W00t (0, Offtopic)

DanUK (676625) | about 9 years ago | (#13165201)

I had one of them but it died

MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (5, Funny)

SoCalChris (573049) | about 9 years ago | (#13165134)

"There are large vultures circling the launch tower, we've got to ask ourselves if they know something that we don't". Jackass.

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (1)

The Other White Boy (626206) | about 9 years ago | (#13165165)

still better than watching it on the local highschool a/v club-quality news we get on the local channel (channel 13 in orlando).

at least we got to go up on the roof to see it and didn't have to bother with any talking heads.

Kill Your Television (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165175)

Seriously, do it.

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165188)

That's why you watch CNN and Miles O'Brien if you need a commentator. The guy is an enthusiast, and his excitement comes across the screen quite well.

Watching the shuttle seperate from the fuel tank was amazing, and you could tell he was just as excited about the new video feed from NASA as I, or any self respecting nerd, was.

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165266)

How did CNN get the Star Trek Transporter Chief to be a commenator on the shuttle launch? Must have had an "IN" with commander Sisko.

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (5, Funny)

Drachemorder (549870) | about 9 years ago | (#13165362)

"That's why you watch CNN and Miles O'Brien if you need a commentator. The guy is an enthusiast, and his excitement comes across the screen quite well."

He ought to know what he's talking about. He spent enough time patching up the Enterprise and DS9 that.... oh. Never mind.

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (0)

eggoeater (704775) | about 9 years ago | (#13165213)

Don't mod funny. The parent is correct...I heard it too and wanted to kick his ass.

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165247)

It was a former shuttle commander who made that comment, not the MSNBC guy. He was saying when he was sitting there, he could see vultures flying overhead and though to himself...

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165314)

Then maybe he should keep his thoughts in his head. You don't have to say everything you think. If that were the case, I'd be walking around all day mumbling "boobs. boobs. boobs. coochie. boobs. boobs. boobs."

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (5, Informative)

ErichTheWebGuy (745925) | about 9 years ago | (#13165278)

That's why I watched it on the Science Channel. No political commentary (not that I even know if the other networks offered any or not). Nothing but coverage from the scientific aspect of it. They had current and former NASA guys offering commentary.

I gotta say that it was the best coverage of a launch I have ever seen, even better than NASA TV's coverage!

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (4, Informative)

nuggetman (242645) | about 9 years ago | (#13165290)

it was a former nasa crewmember, commenting on his thoughts during one of his own launches

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165318)

with all due respect, the commentator who said that was a former NASA guy making a quick funny from a previous liftoff he witnessed. I didnt catch his name and he might have actually been a former astronaut and talking about his own liftoff experiences. The actual quote started "There were large vultures....."

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (0)

DroopyStonx (683090) | about 9 years ago | (#13165339)

hahahaha, I can't believe he actually said that.

Classic!

Re:MSNBC Commentator is a jackass (1)

pcmanjon (735165) | about 9 years ago | (#13165374)

The launch was tense. I watched it on CNN live and you just sat there watching it lift off waiting for something horrible to happen.

Nothing did. I'm one of the people who think that the flight missions are pointless when all we do is go to the space station and have no real objectives (I'm more for the rovers) but watching the successful liftoff was breathtaking.

Good job for NASA.

Other Uses for NASA Technology (1)

repruhsent (672799) | about 9 years ago | (#13165137)

NASA also uses rocket technology to help Kathleen Malda out of bed every day, since rockets are the only thing with enough force to lift something that heavy.

in orbit, everything went as planned (1)

Prophetic_Truth (822032) | about 9 years ago | (#13165141)

hooray for nasa!

Almost... (2, Informative)

everphilski (877346) | about 9 years ago | (#13165363)

They still haven't circularized the orbit yet: if they don't circularize they are ballistic (IE: they come down. hard.)

-everphilski-

Torrent of HD stream? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165144)

Where?

Re:Torrent of HD stream? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165381)

It's been available for weeks now. Although it wasa the prerelease screener with timecode still on it.

Oh and they did not finish the special FX so the rocket exaust is rteally weak looking.

Truly Amazing (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165145)

Very inspiring event.

We've Returned Baby (5, Funny)

null etc. (524767) | about 9 years ago | (#13165148)

marking the United States' returned to manned space flight

Here's hoping to United States' returned to proper grammar and editorial spellchecking.

Re:We've Returned Baby (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165299)

Here's hoping you'll set yourself on fire. Soon. Asshat.

Camera Views (5, Interesting)

Deinhard (644412) | about 9 years ago | (#13165149)

What was fascinating about this launch were the number of cameras catching the action. Watching the orbiter separate from the main tank from the tank itself was fantastic.

Re:Camera Views (1)

pmazer (813537) | about 9 years ago | (#13165235)

Yeah, that was definitely an awe-inspiring shot

Re:Camera Views (1)

edflyerssn007 (897318) | about 9 years ago | (#13165270)

I thought that was an amazing shot, I was dissapointed though that we weren't able to follow the tank back into the atmosphere until we got {NO CARRIER}.
I can't wait to see what else comes from this mission.

Re:Camera Views (0)

Winterblink (575267) | about 9 years ago | (#13165315)

Oh I'm sure they cover the thing in cameras now incase anything goes wrong.

Re:Camera Views (5, Informative)

CRepetski (824321) | about 9 years ago | (#13165327)

The Washington Post has a video of the launch [washingtonpost.com] in case you missed it.

Yeah, the liquid fuel tank camera view was incredible. I hope that I can find the clip of the shuttle executing its roll with earth in the background.

Re:Camera Views (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 9 years ago | (#13165342)

It also gives NASA plenty of rerun footage... like right now (1514UTC) they're replaying all the launch videos from all the cameras. Quite facinating, really.

Re:Camera Views (3, Funny)

Buran (150348) | about 9 years ago | (#13165353)

Except they cut to a fucking Ford commercial instead of run the footage until the camera signal was lost. I hate CNN.

let me be the first to say (-1, Redundant)

PrvtBurrito (557287) | about 9 years ago | (#13165151)

congratulations. This is great to see a successful launch.

woot! (-1, Offtopic)

Colin E. McDonald (837162) | about 9 years ago | (#13165152)

woot!

Incredible! (3, Interesting)

Paska (801395) | about 9 years ago | (#13165154)

That was incredible, sitting in my chair at Australia watching the live NASA TV really gave me goose-bumps. God speed to the crew, and a few rounds of applaud to the people at Nasa.

The footage on Nasa TV was the best I've ever seen, keep it up Nasa - Fantastic work!

Godspeed! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165155)

Good luck to you all.

Succesful launch.. (5, Insightful)

spaztech (899194) | about 9 years ago | (#13165156)

Takeoffs are optional, landings are mandatory. Let's hope they have a successful mission and a safe return.

Re:Succesful launch.. (1)

lpangelrob (714473) | about 9 years ago | (#13165245)

Yes, but "Any landing is a good landing."

Walking away from the landing, bonus points.

Intact orbiter upon landing? Extra bonus points. :-)

I wanted to watch it live (1)

asoap (740625) | about 9 years ago | (#13165157)

I was watching it live, but then the connection crapped out because of all the people watching.

Now I'm sad.

Re:I wanted to watch it live (1)

Paska (801395) | about 9 years ago | (#13165203)

My girlfriend reported the Yahoo stream crapped out about 25 seconds to lift off. The RealPlayer streams worked perfectly for me however, and are still rocking with the replays - I love it.

Re:I wanted to watch it live (1)

thatnerdguy (551590) | about 9 years ago | (#13165366)

I finally got connected to the yahoo stream at T-10 seconds...just in time.

It got launched... (0)

Tweak232 (880912) | about 9 years ago | (#13165162)

With a slingshot. This way, they will not have to worry about troubbles re-entering the atmosphere, as they won't leave it in the first place.

BBC article (2, Informative)

vinlud (230623) | about 9 years ago | (#13165167)

The Beeb has also an article [bbc.co.uk] (ofcourse)

Kudos to all the Nasa engineers!

Almost got to see it... (1)

swtaarrs (640506) | about 9 years ago | (#13165170)

I was just in Orlando this past week, 45 minutes away from Cape Canaveral. I flew home last night, so if it had launched just a day or two earlier I would've been able to see it live...darn. Either way, I'm glad that this launch went smoothly, any more problems would be very very bad for NASA at this point.

first post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165172)

Liftoff!

What to shuttle launches and nascar have in common?

People only watch for the crashes!

YEAH!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165173)

Time for a collective "Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkiiiiiiins!"

Well, 22 minutes ago actually (1)

marat (180984) | about 9 years ago | (#13165179)

I watched live coverage on the BBC until the tank separation, it looks like everything went smoothly, and they have more cameras than F1 now. Probably all these delays were just one big media trick.

I will be celebrating wjhen it safely lands... (2, Insightful)

voss (52565) | about 9 years ago | (#13165180)

or any landing where all seven astronauts walk away from it.

fun with conspiracy theories. (4, Funny)

peculiarmethod (301094) | about 9 years ago | (#13165181)

I saw the live feed from NASA.. I must say congrats.. but I'll give the conspiracy theorists something to ponder.. from the t-minus 30 minutes that I caught it, there was no switch to internal cameras to show the crew on-board.. this was not the case on the feed from the scrapped launch weeks ago. plenty of live shots on the crew that time. hmmmmm.. perhaps this mission is humanless??? hmmmmmmmmm???

or perhaps they're sending te backstreet boys, cause they needed funding.

RIAA FUNDS NASA!!

hehe

Re:fun with conspiracy theories. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165310)

The cameras are temporary and removed when the closeout crew begins the final closeout procedures.

Re:fun with conspiracy theories. (1)

wrightam (859714) | about 9 years ago | (#13165372)

Actually, the aborted launch attempt a couple of weeks ago didn't have any crew shots at t-30 either (probably since it was aborted a couple of hours before launch). I'm sure that there were plenty of crew shots up until they closed the latched.

A toast! (5, Interesting)

Gamingboy (901447) | about 9 years ago | (#13165185)

I propose a toast:

To Apollo One!
To Challenger!
To Columbia!
To all those we have lost in the pursuit of human understanding and knowledge!

Long live exploration!
Long live science!
Long live Earth!

LONG LIVE.... DISCOVERY!

Did you just hear a "thump"?!!! (5, Insightful)

Thud457 (234763) | about 9 years ago | (#13165281)

Sad to say, but the examples you cited weren't lives lost in the pursuit of knowledge.

They were lives lost to managerial short-sightedness and corner-cutting.

It's one thing to take a calculated risk when you understand the odds. To take your fate in your own hands. It's totally different to put your fate in the hands of others, who then don't treat the situation with the diligence it deserves.

You wanna try your luck with the Russian space program?

Re:A toast! (1)

ZOmegaZ (687142) | about 9 years ago | (#13165385)

To Soyuz 1 and 11.

Complaints! (1)

teiresias (101481) | about 9 years ago | (#13165187)

First, suprised it took this long to get a /. thread up about it because...

Second, couldn't find a damn feed of the liftoff. Nasa's page had both Real and WMP feeds but Real needed update after update and WMP just fizzled. CNN had the same clip it had since this morning. Yahoo was alright but very choppy. Was hoping a friendly /. poster would have a comment to a good feed but.....

I heard there was a practically a media city down there but I barely saw it. sigh.

oh, btw, congrats NASA!

Re:Complaints! (1)

swtaarrs (640506) | about 9 years ago | (#13165261)

I don't know if you were limited to internet only, but it was on FOX news and CNN also (cable tv).

Re:Complaints! (1)

varmittang (849469) | about 9 years ago | (#13165358)

I saw it on CNN I think. A bunch of people here at work watched it from t-1:30 until the commercial break. Which the commercial was the Windows self help guy, with his CDs to help you learn how to use Windows. At which point everyone walked away and went back to work. The obital saparation from the fual tank was spectacular though. Never had shots like that before, so it was a very nice first.

CNN Broadcast (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165193)

Did anyone actually hear the CNN broadcast of the launch they mentioned that the seperation of the solid rocket boosters is the equivlent of throwing a cigarette out of the car...lol

To think, I thought NFL Broadcasts were bad.

Hmm, now once we upgrade (1)

jhtrih (218203) | about 9 years ago | (#13165194)

We can go to the moon! ... oh wait, Wallace and Grommet beat us there. Darn...

Godspeed, Discovery. (1)

angst7 (62954) | about 9 years ago | (#13165195)

After two and a half years, this launch made my hair stand on end again. All the best to the crew and their families.

Man, what it must be like to ride one of those things.

Godspeed!? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165291)

Is that more than lightspeed?

HOLY S*&%! (-1, Offtopic)

carambola5 (456983) | about 9 years ago | (#13165198)

Man flies to f*&%ing space!

-your friends at the onion

important part (1)

Arkange (92306) | about 9 years ago | (#13165204)

Let's hope they have fixed the landing, too.

Exhaust trail (1)

q-the-impaler (708563) | about 9 years ago | (#13165207)

I can see the exhaust trail from my office in Jacksonville, FL. It's quite hazy today, though. Wish I had a camera, of course it's not that impressive looking.

See the distance [google.com]

Hurray ! (1)

RedVortex (535518) | about 9 years ago | (#13165208)

Big congratulations to NASA and everyone who made this (again) possible. I watched liftoff from the web and it was spectacular. Good luck to the crew and NASA for the remainder of the flight and the upcoming ones.

RedVortex

Mission Status Center link (4, Informative)

RobertB-DC (622190) | about 9 years ago | (#13165209)

The missing link: Spaceflight Now's Mission Status Center [spaceflightnow.com] (text version).

Darned Dallas newspaper printed the 10:39 time as though it were local, so I missed it. The Mission Status Center is the next best thing. Interesting tidbit: "Mission specialist No. 3 Andy Thomas ... spent four months living aboard the Russian space station Mir in 1998." So he's got experience patching up balky tin cans in space...

Obligatory Quote (1)

rustbear (852420) | about 9 years ago | (#13165211)

"Oh no, not another boring space launch. Change the channel. Change the channel!"

Re:Obligatory Quote (-1, Offtopic)

Buran (150348) | about 9 years ago | (#13165390)

If you think it's "boring", what the hell are you doing in here? Go comment on an SCO thread or something.

HD (1)

technomagesteve (757495) | about 9 years ago | (#13165215)

Some of us were lucky enough to watch it in High-Def on HDNet!

Re:HD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165322)

Wonder if there's a hd-rip available (yet)?

Re:HD (1)

robpoe (578975) | about 9 years ago | (#13165365)

did you get burned? that's what the HD commercials say. That you can feel the action ;)

Liftoff! (2, Interesting)

UMhydrogen (761047) | about 9 years ago | (#13165217)

I got to watch the liftoff while at work, at a place where many of the parts of the shuttle were built. It was pretty cool watching it next to guys who had helped build it! All their explanations definitely made the launch even more exciting. God speed to the crew and lets hope they have a successful mission and a safe return!

Here's hoping for a safe return (1)

adnonsense (826530) | about 9 years ago | (#13165218)

For the astronauts and for the future of manned spaceflight.

I wonder.. (4, Interesting)

pickyouupatnine (901260) | about 9 years ago | (#13165222)

I wonder if the amount of $$ being spent on running the current space shuttle program is worth it.. or if that money would be better spent in not going to space for the next 5 to 10 years and developing something to replace the current shuttle program.

Even after all the precautions, there were still NASA employees crying foul at today's launch date - which raises the question, "What will it take to convince all NASA employees so the general public can be then convinced to fully back this program?"

Best of luck to the current crew. Hope they fly high and land safely.

Stupid live feed bogged down (1)

Thaelon (250687) | about 9 years ago | (#13165232)

Tried to watch it launch live via space.com but was getting about 8b/s on the live feed. Works great now that it doesn't fucking matter.

Re:Stupid live feed bogged down (1)

ch-chuck (9622) | about 9 years ago | (#13165332)

My NASA RealAudio video feed froze at about t-5 minutes, so I switched over to Yahoo! Windows Media feed and it glitched at about t-1, hung in 'buffering', but I was able to restart it in time to see the launch at about 10:39:30 EDT (rdate with time.nist.gov).

If you missed the launch... (1, Funny)

angst7 (62954) | about 9 years ago | (#13165243)

No worries, it'll be announced again right here on Slashdot within 24 hours. I can hardly wait!

Relief and anticipation (1)

budn3kkid (668179) | about 9 years ago | (#13165246)

No words can describe the relief felt when seeing the Space Shuttle launch successfully and the External Tank jettisoned without any hitches.
Now it's just the anticipation for the days to come where the STS-114 crew go about their mission and approach and docking with the ISS.
Wish the entire crew of STS-114 and NASA luck on their mission and their safe return! :)

Yet another reason to hate MS (1, Funny)

carambola5 (456983) | about 9 years ago | (#13165249)

Scene: me and 50 coworkers at a NASA subcontractor watching the webcast a la MSN Video on an XP box.

20 seconds before launch, the feed goes blank. Way to piss off a bunch of rocket scientists, Microsoft. Way to go. We ended up watching the rest on NASATV on a puny TV, which was ahead of the webcast by a minute. In other words, by the time the webcast went blank, back on the regular TV, we had already missed ignition and lift off.

ARGH!

Whew! (0)

elgee (308600) | about 9 years ago | (#13165253)

I just couldn't watch or listen to the launch. I was just too worried about it.

I am keeping fingers crossed that all goes well with this mission. There is so much at stake.

wooHOO! (1)

Binge (780857) | about 9 years ago | (#13165255)

Nice to see a successful launch - and the fresh groceries will be most appreciated.

Pretty Pictures (1)

Illix (772190) | about 9 years ago | (#13165263)

Here's hoping the footage from those 117 cameras or so that NASA placed around the Shuttle to check for damage is eventually made available to the public, once it's been checked by the engineers. Imagine 117 angles on a Shuttle liftoff...

And good luck to everyone aboard Discovery.

Real Player vs MS Media Player (1)

BrentRJones (68067) | about 9 years ago | (#13165274)

From the NASA TV page http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html [nasa.gov]

Real Player had much better audio but the MS Media Player had better sharpness and shadow detail in video. This was over Comcast broadband in Chicago.

I assume the video feed was the same from NASA.

Three cheers!! (1)

duggie (787162) | about 9 years ago | (#13165279)

Here's to NASA's return to flight.

Yay! (1)

sparr0w (902739) | about 9 years ago | (#13165286)

Now we will FINALLY know if ants can be trained to sort tiny screws in space

Aviation And Space Geeks Rejoice... (2, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 9 years ago | (#13165312)

By loading up X-Plane [x-plane.com] and flying the Space Shuttle [x-plane.com] to a nice successful landing.

Pity X-Plane won't simulate the launch... or the ISS, but oh well.

Spectacular (1)

dasdrewid (653176) | about 9 years ago | (#13165323)

Personally, I still find it absolutely amazing everytime the shuttle launches. It's just a marvel of engineering. And it's damn beautiful.

To everyone who didn't get to see the coverage (or live, you lucky bastards), you seriously missed out. Yeah, the commentators were kinda annoying, but the amount of camera coverage (and the fact that I could switch between all the major networks to find a different view if they switched to one I didn't like) was really cool. I've seen launches in person, and frankly, I'm torn as to whether seeing it live or this way was better. I mean, live, you see the first 20 seconds, 30 if you brought binoculars, 40 if you brought a telescope. Today, I got to see the main booster separate, *live*.

I wanna be one of many to wish the astronauts best of luck with their mission, and a happy return.

watched via nasatv / yahoo on xp box, EXCELLENT (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165326)

just watched the shuttle launch on NasaTV via yahoo's WMP stream on my work XP box, NO glitches at all, full screen was impressive... had a bunch of co-workers in my office all cheering the return of the shuttle to space flight

god speed to the crew of the discovery

I'd like to see... (1)

Hangin10 (704729) | about 9 years ago | (#13165329)

a fleet of large interplanetary vessels; a project like that hopefully can stimulate advancements in propulsion, power, and computers like the Apollo program did. The Apollo Guidance Computer was one of the first embedded systems. It was also one of the first to use ICs, having 4,100 of them (5600 NOR gates).

Kudos to NASA for a successful launch!

STS-114 launch a success! (1)

KennyP (724304) | about 9 years ago | (#13165333)

The final chapter of the space shuttle fleet has begun.

Let's get us a new fleet under construction!

Visualize Whirled P.'s

Spaceballs.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165334)

"Oh shit, there goes the planet"

Correction (1)

lbmouse (473316) | about 9 years ago | (#13165335)

...marking the United States' returned to manned space flight for the first time since the Columbia disaster...

That is not true [msn.com] .

Jumping in with both feet (3, Informative)

fsh (751959) | about 9 years ago | (#13165337)

I was worried that they were just going to go up and down this first time out, but they're doing some pretty serious work.

From the Mission Briefing [nasa.gov]

Several elements will be carried in Discovery's payload bay for delivery to the Station. These include the Multi-Purpose Logistics Module Raffaello, containing racks of supplies, food and water, and the Human Research Facility-2 rack. Also, the External Stowage Platform and a replacement Control Moment Gyroscope will be carried in Discovery's payload bay.

During Mission STS-114, mission specialists will perform spacewalks to install the External Stowage Platform and the Control Moment Gyroscope onto the Station. They will unberth the logistics module and attach it to the Station to transfer several tons of supplies and equipment, including food and water, for use by the Expedition 11 crew.

As much as I wish they were putting money into something other than the ISS, it's fantastic to see that the shuttle is fully operational again.

Big Chunk Of Something fell off (4, Informative)

RobertB-DC (622190) | about 9 years ago | (#13165338)

From Spaceflight Now [spaceflightnow.com] :

1512 GMT (11:12 a.m. EDT)

T+plus 33 minutes. A few seconds after solid rocket booster separation, a large chunk of something broke free from the external fuel tank. The onboard video camera mounted on the tank showed the object flying away from the vehicle without striking Discovery.

What's their mission? (0, Troll)

NeMon'ess (160583) | about 9 years ago | (#13165371)

I'm guessing they'll be doing maintenance and repairs to the space station? How many missions before they get back to doing scientific research?

...good thing too. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13165375)

...cuz it woulda looked really bad if the friggin Chinese got yet another launch up and going before NASA did.

...or Burt Rutan and company.

Large piece of debris fell off right after SRB sep (1)

macpeep (36699) | about 9 years ago | (#13165377)

Did anyone else notice that a large piece of .. something.. fell off just after the SRB's separated? It looked black in the tank camera view, and flashed very clearly in the view for short time on the left side (seen from the camera) of the shuttle. I doubt it was an SRB because they had already fallen further away a few seconds earlier.

I bet we will be hearing a lot about that in the next few days as people start looking more closely at the camera recordings!

Near miss? (2, Insightful)

edremy (36408) | about 9 years ago | (#13165382)

From spaceflightnow.com

T+plus 33 minutes. A few seconds after solid rocket booster separation, a large chunk of something broke free from the external fuel tank. The onboard video camera mounted on the tank showed the object flying away from the vehicle without striking Discovery.

Want to bet that chunk of film is going to be looked at rather closely?

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