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New PSP Firmware with Built-In Web Browser

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the bet-it's-harder-to-hack dept.

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Volksport writes "Sony has released a new major firmware update for the PSP, bringing it to v2.00 (This link points to the install file). This new version offers updates such as a built-in web browser (User agent says it is Mozilla/4.0) and Korean language support. Although it was only released in Japan so far, it installs normally on US PSP systems." This version apparently breaks all hacks so far too.

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Jesus Christ, do I care about this (0, Flamebait)

Proctal Relapse (467579) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176870)

Seriously. I just shit myself. I am so excited to use Mozilla on the PSP I would own if I were a faggot gamer.

Re:Jesus Christ, do I care about this (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13176894)

I want to have anulsecks with you SO FREAKIN' BAD it hurts!!!!

Browser? (5, Insightful)

coop0030 (263345) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176879)

Has anyone tried out the browser yet?

I want to know how it performs, and how easy it is to use before I go ahead and cripple the modability of my system.

Thank you.

parent +5 insightful??? (0, Troll)

cfsmp3 (774544) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176972)

Are you kidding me?

Re:Browser? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13176973)

go ahead and do it. If you want to play any future games you will be forced to upgrade anyway.

Re:Browser? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177003)

I've tried it. It works perfect.

They've fixed the input so it lets you input URLs much faster tap on the button with 'h' five times and it adds http://; six times and it adds http://www.. There's also for .com, .net, .nl, .es and more on "their" letters.

Re:Browser? (2, Funny)

scaverdilly (902859) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177012)

Oh, so you want us to fry ours so you don't have to check it out?

Re:Browser? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177022)

Has anyone tried out the browser yet?

I want to know how it performs, and how easy it is to use before I go ahead and cripple the modability of my system.

Thank you.


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480x272 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177103)

Your post would have been funny if it had any basis in REALITY. The resolution of of PSP is 480x272. idiot.

Re:480x272 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177226)

Boo-hoo, someone does not like my fucking japper-toy, boo-hoo.

PSP sucks. Get a good American brand like Nintendo instead.

Re:Browser? (5, Informative)

mackman (19286) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177079)

I've been using it for a couple hours now and I have to say I'm extrmely impressed. It's not the fastest nor can it handle large images (only has 24MB RAM to work with), but it looks wonderful, renders most pages well, and provides a few special page layout options to better fit the screen. Also, the text input is quick -- it uses a modified cell-phone keypad interface with shortcuts for typing common computer terms "php", ".com", etc. It also handles HTTP authentication and SSL correctly making it fully capable on most web sites. I don't think it does flash though.

Good Performance (1)

reporter (666905) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177177)

I want to know how it performs ...

According to a CNET article [cnet.com.au] , the PSP sports a MIPS R4000 running at 333 MHz. The performance is probably comparable to a Pentium II running at the same speed.

In other words, the performance is good.

Hardest Decision Ever... (5, Funny)

TJ_Phazerhacki (520002) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176882)

To update, and lose the SNES9x and e-reader features I love, or to just go out and buy another one to play games on....

decisions... decisions...

Re:Hardest Decision Ever... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13176926)

How about picking up a laptop instead? Two PSPs will run you about the same price and still won't offer you all the features of a laptop.

Re:Hardest Decision Ever... (2, Insightful)

kryogen1x (838672) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176967)

So you're going to drop another $250? $250 is a lot of money just to play Super Nintendo on the go...

Re:Hardest Decision Ever... (1)

ShadoHawk (741112) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177323)

I think they fell off the face of the earth again. Maybe you can find one on that moon trip. But, it seems like GP32s are MIA http://www.gamepark.co.kr/ [gamepark.co.kr]

Re:Hardest Decision Ever... (2, Informative)

Maltheus (248271) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177153)

Why don't you just get a Palm Pilot for your emulation and e-reader needs? It would cost the same and you'd be able to use it for many other things. I went with a Zodiac (Palm with PSP like controls) over a PSP because it was better for emualtors and that's all I wanted anyway (Zods don't run SNES at an acceptable speed for some, but there are other Palms out there with twice the processor speed that would). Google "Little John Palm" or "Little John Z" for the ultimate SNES/NES/GAMEBOY/GENESIS/ETC palm emulator.

Breaking hacks... (4, Insightful)

ZakuSage (874456) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176884)

It's not so much that this version breaks hacks... hacks haven't worked on 1.51 or 1.52. Sony probably did put new measures of security on this, though.

Hopefully this firmware gets hacked soon, as I'm sure there's a lot of people who'd like to get back to playing Chrono Trigger on their PSPs.

Re:Breaking hacks... (1)

FLAGGR (800770) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176906)

So in other words it breaks hacks. What was the point of your post?

Re:Breaking hacks... (2, Informative)

ZakuSage (874456) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176936)

Well actually, hacks wouldn't have worked on 1.51 and 1.52 anyway, so the idea of this one "breaking" hacks is pretty irrelevant.

Re:Breaking hacks... (4, Insightful)

coop0030 (263345) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176929)

Well, I wouldn't care if I could play Chrono Trigger if Sony would release some more games for the PSP.

Seriously, where is this plethora of games that were promised?

The hype of the PSP is over, and it is all Sony's fault. Originally, there was a steady release of games, and some great games at that. Since the release of Hot Shots Golf on April 4th, there hasn't been ONE worthwhile title to get released for the PSP. Alright, I am a patient man, and I can wait for a good game. This is another problem I have with the PSP. The next noteworthy game to come out for the PSP is Gran Turismo 4 Mobile. To me, this game isn't even noteworthy because I have Gran Turismo for PS2 and I can't imagine playing it twice. Aside from GT4mobile, the next game I have to look forward to is Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories. GTA:LCS isn't due out until Fall of 2005. Now lets assume Fall '05 means that it will come out in October. That means there will be a span of 7 months between blockbuster PSP titles (if you call Hot Shots Golf a blockbuster title). In the meen time Sony thinks its going to fill our desire for a new release as long as there are tons of UMD movies that come out. There are something like 100 movie titles coming to the PSP, which is cool, but if I wanted a handheld to play movies, I would have bought a portable DVD player.

The bottom line is...I am bored with my PSP. My opinion is that Sony did a poor job of ensuring a steady release of decent titles after its launch. All we can do now is hope the software update gets to the states soon. I wouldn't mind putting the built in WiFi to good use. If the software update is good enough, it could hold me over until the next major game release, but I am not getting my hopes up. Honestly, the only reason I am hanging on to my PSP is because I can't wait until GTA comes out. I have a feeling it is going to be a title that will be worth paying 300 dollars just to buy the PSP so you can play it. I know there isn't anything Sony can do now to keep interest in their product (except release PSPs of different colors, i.e. white). All we can do now is sit patiently and await the release of GTA. Rockstar, please don't let us down.

Re:Breaking hacks... (2, Informative)

ZakuSage (874456) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176991)

Well actually LCS is set to come out Sept. 1st. Death Jr, while not exactly a killer app, comes out pretty soon and looks pretty good.

I agree though, that the flow of games is unsteady. This should pick up soon enough, the fall and winter schedule looks to have a lot of games at once.

Not only that (4, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177021)

But all of the PSP releases are - movies.

Yay. I can spend $20 on the DVD version of the movie, and another $20 on the PSP version (unless I simply encode the movie myself with Yade/FFMPEG on OS X and copy it up to the memory stick).

Seems that Sony's more excited about the portable movie player stuff. Maybe they fear a video iPod so they're trying to flood the market with PSP releases to make the studios think that the PSP is the "format of choice" or some such. Either way, as a gamer the PSP is getting more use reading killyourfm.com than it is as a game device.

It ain't just the PSP... (1)

Ryan Amos (16972) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177096)

There hasn't really been a noteworthy game release in the past six months on any platform. GTA: San Andreas was the last 'Killer App' and it's so expensive to just produce a par game that the development cycle has really slowed to just a handful of companies who can consistantly put out games before getting bought by EA.

PC, PS2, Xbox.. none of them have had any decent releases recently. Most everyone I know has gotten bored of and then gone back to World of Warcraft because there really isn't anything out there. The video game world is dying a slow death due to the skyrocketing costs of game development. There are maybe half a dozen big releases a year on any platform; just like hollywood most game companies are mired in a rut of endless sequels to dead franchises. Even GTA is getting old. Give us something new.

Re:It ain't just the PSP... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177170)

Well, while not amazing, there have been a few Nintendo DS games that are at least noteworthy (I know, most people do not even think of Nintendo in these discussions, but there are a few gems on that system, hopefully more will come).

Re:It ain't just the PSP... (3, Interesting)

2008 (900939) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177244)

Killer 7?

Recent, fairly big release (would be bigger if people were willing to buy non-sequels), very original. Answers all your complaints.

Re:It ain't just the PSP... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177282)

psychonauts on X-box is an absolutely amazing game. ncaa2006 just came out too if that's your thing

Re:Breaking hacks... (1)

TomorrowPlusX (571956) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177290)

I felt that way over ten years ago, when I bought an Atari Lynx... funny how it goes. Beautiful systems, beautiful potential. And nothing happens. ( well, except for the UMD movie stuff )

Re:Breaking hacks... (1)

EMH_Mark3 (305983) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177330)

Jefe, what is a plethora?

Be nice (4, Interesting)

Karem Lore (649920) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176893)

If we could actually buy the unit here in Europe...Have to wait until September, but hey, the firmware is at V2...

Re:Be nice (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177001)

There were plenty of shops selling imports until Sony threatened legal action. To be honest I don't quite know how they could stop anyone from selling an item that's been legally shipped and taxed on entry to the country, but it (understandably) looks like there aren't many shops willing to take the risk of going against Sony.

Having said that, there's still eBay or Lik-Sang.

Re:Be nice (3, Interesting)

jimicus (737525) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177285)

AFAIK, the basis of the legal action was trademark infringement; thus:

"Fred's Imports has no license to use the names Sony, PSP or the logos. They're all trademarks owned by us. We've asked them to stop using these names, they refuse. Please order them to stop, your honour."

Judgement for the plaintiff, now Fred has to sell his Sony PSPs without telling people what they are. And to really hammer it home, Sony consider "Fred's imports" shipping a box with Sony PSP on it a trademark infringement - and the court agreed.

Does this sound like an abuse of the system to you?

Re:Be nice (1)

medea (38161) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177213)

how about importing them by yourself: http://liksang.com/ [liksang.com]

I have a few friends who ordererd them to Switzerland. No problems so far...

cheers
roman

summary is correct: no homebrew yet! (4, Informative)

The Other White Boy (626206) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176897)

if you're still sitting on your 1.5 bios psp and enjoying emulators and source ports of old games, you may want to hang on for a while before the upgrade. sure you'll get a browser, but until someone comes up with a work around for 2.0 (no hints so far) you may be stuck for a while.

but hey i'm sure somebody will figure it out eventually. hopefully before new games start forcing you to upgrade to 2.0 to play.

A bold move on Sony's part (5, Interesting)

Frangible (881728) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176901)

I have to wonder how much of the new features in this release are to "compete" with the old firmwares people are keeping to run ripped games and homebrew? If so, it's certainly an interesting and bold move on Sony's part -- keep offering more and more compelling features in the "secure" firmware and eventually enough people will opt for it over their older firmware.

Device only worth so much (1)

rwade (131726) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177007)

The actual hardware Sony is offering is worth only so much to a consumer due to the availability of alternatives.

The real money for the company is in the IP. If they can keep the devices selling with the features the box actually offers rather than the simple presence of chips and things, then they can sustain the price of the unit.

Sony does not want anything they make to become a commodity.

3... 2... 1... (1)

JossiRossi (840900) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176911)

... and all the broken hacks are now functional again.

Re:3... 2... 1... (2, Informative)

Xenoflargactian (883930) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177173)

If only it were that easy...

The 1.0 and 1.5 firmwares didn't have all of the security features enabled. In 1.51 and above, the PSP will only run signed code, and since we don't and probably never will have Sony's private key, we can't sign our own code. Hopefully they'll find a workaround or exploit that can be used.

Knowing hackers... (4, Funny)

Mad_Rain (674268) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176916)

This version apparently breaks all hacks so far too

Hmmm... knowing the rapid pace of hackers versus the Slashdot editors, which will come first: the hack to get the latest firmware to work, or the dupe of this story? ;)

Re:Knowing hackers... (2, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176977)

> > This version apparently breaks all hacks so far too
>
>Hmmm... knowing the rapid pace of hackers versus the Slashdot editors, which will come first: the hack to get the latest firmware to work, or the dupe of this story? ;)

Well, it was also released only in Japan, and in addition to the browser breaking the hacks, it has Korean language support. I'll bet someone will come up with a Firefox plugin to detect (or even auto-hide) the Slashdot duplicates. You'd probably have to be a really antisocial guy to spend your time porting that sort of thing to PSP firmware. You'd have to be someone very ronery. Which is to say that in Soviet North Korea, only old people's hacks break the browser.

/one ticket to hell, please. First class, extra grits.

Re:Knowing hackers... (1)

The Other White Boy (626206) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177019)

i tried sorta half heatedly to compile the firefox source using the psp toolkit and failed, obviously. but i'm sure some other people with a bit more knowledge have tried, seen the errors, and worked at it.

judging by the other ports we've seen, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see a firefox port. i think the tcp/ip interface on the wi-fi still hasn't been figured out though, so that's probably where most of the effort is concentrated.

user agent string (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13176917)

(User agent says it is Mozilla/4.0)

Of course it does, virtually every browser's user agent says it's Mozilla/4.0. All that means is that it's not Mozilla Suite/Firefox, which report Mozilla/5.0.

Tempting - but no (5, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176918)

Sadly, I've enjoyed too much of the homebrew software to stop now (such as playing my Game Boy games - yes, I own copies of them on my PSP, or Chess, or watching the progress of the movie player that supports AVI and OGG), so while the web browser is nifty, and better playback of MPEG-4 video is nice, I'm keeping my PSP at 1.5 for as long as I can (which means I can't buy any new games, which is all right since there aren't any PSP games right now that interest me, and looking ahead none that will until early 2006, while the DS has some good ones coming out late next month).

Odds are, though, a Sony rep/fanpeople probably read the above as:

"Blah, blah, blah, I pirate software, blah, blah, blah, I'm a thief, blah, blah, blah, I have a tiny pee-pee because I like the DS".

But I'll give points to Sony for at least trying to meet people's needs. Good start - just needs better follow through.

Of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Re:Tempting - but no (1)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177065)

I can see Sony's PoV. And I see yours too.

I'd love to have a PSP with Sony's blessing that could run homebrew.

But here's the hard part -- lets all think of a way to make it possible, for Sony's sake.

I'm sure Sony would like more customers -- don't you? Running homebrew is good, as long as it doesn't make them lose game publishers.

So how can we help Sony design a way to authenticate that homebrew apps aren't in fact pirated games?

Re:Tempting - but no (5, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177133)

I wrote a thing on this some time ago, but here's my humble thoughts. They are probably flawed, but it's a good launching point.

What I would do as Sony is release a $100 "amateur developers kit", with the license that all programs created can only be offered free of charge unless published by Sony, and Sony has no liability on programs. With the program as compiled is a big warning "Sony takes no responsibility if you break your PSP running this program!"

This way, Sony gets both money and developers creating content. They can cherry pick what they really like and publish it if they want (since the author is not allowed to charge money under the license). Regular publishers know that they have more competition, but as the PSP's list of apps grow this sells more PSP's, so "big name" developers get to step up and market to a larger base. (And let's face it - shareware/freeware games hasn't killed off big PC publishing games - mainly console competition.)

This is kind of my "launching point" on this thought. Yes, it severely restricts development - but it's still a hell of a lot more open than the Nintendo systems, but not as open as the GP32, so Sony stands to win either way.

Like I said, just an idea. I could be wrong.

Re:Tempting - but no (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177164)

Speaking as a PSP developer, and posting anonymously, I suspect Sony would support the homebrew scene more if most homebrews weren't emulators... which most first parties just see as "piracy engines."

Re:Tempting - but no (2, Interesting)

Lothsahn (221388) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177265)

Sony could digitally sign certain homebrew applications and verify that they're legit for a fee from the developers.

Or better yet, Sony could manage a user-based voting system where applications not supporting piracy would be approved by voting consensus, and those allowing piracy would be denied. Entry into this voting forum would be fee based for voting users ($10 admission?), to pay for Sony's moderation expenses. Users found improperly voting on a repeated (intentional) basis for software products known to be piracy would be banned. In addition, the forum could be web-based and provide advertisement revenue.

All homebrew applications that come out would be required by Sony to also install the latest firmware version, thereby discouraging piracy even further. This would also decrease demand for attempting to find exploits in the PSP to circumvent piracy protections by those people wanting to simply run legit homebrew applications.

I don't see why it couldn't work--if Sony wanted it to... but I doubt they care.

Re:Tempting - but no (4, Interesting)

cduffy (652) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177287)

So how can we help Sony design a way to authenticate that homebrew apps aren't in fact pirated games?

Provide a mechanism by which folks can either:

- Send a homebrew game in for automated signing (after basic automated validation using some straightforward heuristics that the game doesn't look pirated -- say, validate that there are no consecutive 1K blocks that match those from any commercially published game after some basic normalization like removing NOPs) for use on ONE PSP, for free, with minimal turnaround time, with a limit on how many requests an individual can make per day (so crackers can't repeatedly attempt to break the automated system or, once they've broken it, churn out copies signed for tons of PSPs).

- Send a homebrew game for manual validation that it isn't a ripoff of a commercial game. If it passes manual validation (which would of course require automated validation as a prerequisite), it gets signed for use on *all* PSPs. The individual who sends it in is charged some token amount ($5-$10) to discourage folks from generating excessive workload for Sony's staff.

As a first attempt, how's that sound?

backwards flash-ability? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13176920)

if you update the firmware to v2, is it possible to flash back to older versions?

Re:backwards flash-ability? (1)

Xenoflargactian (883930) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177121)

Not yet. They're still trying to figure that one out. That's why upgrading is a big move - it can't be undone.

IM (1)

casualsax3 (875131) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176930)

I suppose you could use AIM express on it now.... mobile IMing might make it worth picking up a PSP now

It's about time. (4, Interesting)

donleyp (745680) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176950)

The guys at psphacks.net [psphacks.net] have some information too.

I, for one, plan to get it ASAP. I think the browser is a great addition.

I am dissapointed in Sony for working so hard to disable the hacks people have come up with. What's it to them how we use the HW we bought?

I really think Sony should consider removing the barriers to homebrew software! Does anyone have any insight into why they're so uptight about it?

Re:It's about time. (1)

LilBlackDemon (604917) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177004)

It's not so much that they're intending on breaking homebrew applications, so that you can't play emulators or home games, as they are concerned about piracy.

Any time you can run an unliscneced homebrew app/emulator on a PSP means you can also download a disc image of a commercial game and run that as well.

Personally, I'm split on this one, until they come up with a legitimate way for homebrew apps to run.

Commodity Hardware (1)

rwade (131726) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177029)

Sony wants people to buy the device for how they can use it. They're justifiably afraid that the PSP will become simply another piece of hardware that has to compete with every other portable computer, at which point they are sure to lose their price premium.

Re:It's about time. (1)

coop0030 (263345) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177046)

Does anyone have any insight into why they're so uptight about it?


Sony has always been uptight about people messing with their hardware.

They want complete control over it. This way they think they will make more money by having complete control over the distribution of games, movies, memory cards, and anything else you can think of.

What they don't realize is that people will still buy this stuff (if it is good), but they may get a few more people to buy their products if they just let people have fun with them, and do what they want with them (similar to the modding idea in the FPS industry).

Just think; if there was a killer app, such as an emulator, that suddenly got popular (and Sony didn't stifle development of it), it could become a very popular item to buy, and reach mass market as cool.

Re:It's about time. (4, Insightful)

Tx (96709) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177052)

I really think Sony should consider removing the barriers to homebrew software! Does anyone have any insight into why they're so uptight about it?

You really have to ask?

1. Having hobbyists be able to manipulate the device will lead to people being able to play pirated games and movies as far as they are concerned, and they probably have a point.

2. They might in the future want to sell you some of the features that you want to obtain via hacks. Why allow people to have for free what you might be able to make them pay for?

It's about time-Stable Kernel API. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177195)

3-They're not obligated to maintain anything for anyone else (beyound any contracts they may have). It's just like when the kernel guys change the driver interface (again!), and Nvidia has to make a change (remember the "stacks" issue in 2.6?). Did people think that the kernel guys deliberately make those changes to break Nvidia drivers?

---
The "are you a script" word for today is relying.

Re:It's about time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177212)

What's it to them how we use the HW we bought?

If you keep playing other (emulated) games, you won't be buying their games (as much as you would without it).

Sometimes life is so simple uh.

Desperately wanting a better way to enter text (4, Interesting)

jockm (233372) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176951)

I installed it this morning. Most sites I looked at came though ok. I had trouble loading all the images from /. Overall it is very cool.

What I do want is a better way to enter text. It was never much of an issue with the PSP until now. The phone like text entry system is a little wacky. I would like a true virtual keyboard with some kind of a9 like predictive text

Re:Desperately wanting a better way to enter text (1)

Krach42 (227798) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177193)

God! I hate the freaking cell phone input, too!

The thing drives me nuts. Not because it's cell phone input, and a9-like predictive text wouldn't help.

It's because the entire notion of cell phone text entry doesn't work when I have to move a cursor to the correct button, then press a singular button through it. This is annoying and breaks the whole flow of input.

Entirely too slow. They need to think of a new input method, one that allows for reasonable text input speeds, not 1 word per hour.

WOW A BROWSER (1)

ChrisDKK (839983) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176952)

Sorry SONY thats not enough to make me stop playing Sam & Max on my PSP.

fxpsp (2, Insightful)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176961)

If the browser is really the only new feature, why doesn't someone just port a decent browser [getfirefox.com] to the PSP?

Well... (1)

Shads (4567) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176969)

... there has to be SOME compelling reason to break all the "neat" hacks for the PSP. A webbrowser and such is sufficient for some people... but I don't look for alot of people to fall for it honestly.

Region encoding (5, Interesting)

Generic Guy (678542) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176971)

This update also apparently helps enforce region encoding (e.g. DVD players), which of course is incredibly stupid on a handheld portable device.

Upcoming games reportedly use region locks.

Needs Region Encoding (1)

rwade (131726) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177281)

Not so. Sony may believe that the device will become so prolific as to be a substitute for the household DVD player, rather than a portable substitute to be used by the extremely small international jet-set.

Browser?! Who cares?! (-1, Troll)

chroot_james (833654) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176982)

Am I the only one who doesn't care about a browser in my psp? I always have my laptop with me, so anywhere I'd need a browser, I could pull out my laptop. I'd rather have emulation and because of that I can't be bothered with 2.0.

Sony, please embrace the hackers that made playstation 1 ubiquitous. Remember the explosion after people found you could put chips in them? They were EVERYWHERE. Once that happens, put the controls in because you'll have one.

Actually, sony has basically won. Nintendo's DS is rather pathetic... It's main push seems to be to play original nes games, but psp can do that, assuming you don't upgrade the bios. :)

Re:Browser?! Who cares?! (1)

kennedy (18142) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177100)

Actually, sony has basically won. Nintendo's DS is rather pathetic... It's main push seems to be to play original nes games

Huh?! have you ever even used a DS? there is no (legal) means to play NES games on it, with the exception of the GBA NES Classic line of titles (and those arent even DS spesific).

dumbass.

Re:Browser?! Who cares?! (-1, Troll)

chroot_james (833654) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177174)

That's exactly what I'm referring to. Dumbass.

Re:Browser?! Who cares?! (1)

KarmaMB84 (743001) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177283)

It made no sense the first time you said it since the GBA games were targetted at the cheaper GBA & SP to begin with.

Re:Browser?! Who cares?! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177194)

What the hell are you talking about?
Since when does the DS only play original nes games, that's not the point of the DS at all.
Name ONE original game for PSP, because that's the point of the DS, innovative, original gaming. Granted there are some rehashes, but more and more are completely different way to play a game. It's nice being able to pick up a game for 10-20mins or hours on end. That's something DS offers but the PSP does not, legally. Notice how the only fun to be had on the PSP is illegal Nintendo games. No matter how much people put Nintendo down, it's always their systems and games people go back to.

Re:Browser?! Who cares?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177279)

The real fight here is between the Game Boy Advance and the PSP. Nintendo themselves didn't trust the DS to do well, thats why they worked so hard to distinguish it from their wildly succesful Game Boy
franchise.

Whether the fanboys like it or not, the Game Boy is pulling in far more money than the PSP, it has far more games, and if is in the hands of far more gamers.

Anyway, there are some fun games for the DS, which is more important to me than emulating older Nintendo games on another system...

hah (2, Insightful)

Momoru (837801) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176987)

I love all the people here that are like "well i don't think i'll upgrade because i can use my gameboy emulator, etc, etc...so what if i cant play games". Why did you buy a bloody PSP if you didn't want to play PSP games on it? A PDA would have done all the "extra curricular" things you are doing, and would have been better at it and cost less. I agree these side things are neat add-on's to a video game system, and Sony is a bastard for taking that functionality away, but seriously there is no doubt i'd upgrade my PSP, because the thing is meant for playing games.

Re:hah (1)

chroot_james (833654) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177030)

What do you think a gameboy emulator is for?!

Re:hah (1)

Cederic (9623) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177083)


Thing is, although I wouldn't mind one for playing games, I'm carrying too many devices around already.

So I'm waiting for the PSP to get a hard disk, native mp3 and divx support, and a pluggable keyboard. At that point I can use it as a PDA, as a properly portable music and video player, and also as a games device.

Until then it's just a games device. And as the games still wont be as good as the ones I play on my PC, since I'm going to compromise I might as well stick with my GBA.

It's not that I can't afford one, there's just no compelling reason to buy one. So I wont.

~Cederic

Re:hah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177277)

but seriously there is no doubt i'd upgrade my PSP, because the thing is meant for playing games.

What? So you'd disable the ability to play homebrew games and roms of games in order to upgrade the firmware for a web browser, because your PSP is meant for playing games?? Hello?

Early adoption (5, Informative)

GoRK (10018) | more than 9 years ago | (#13176999)

As no one seems to have pointed out yet, it's likely that someone will release a modified 2.0 that will give you all the new features AND let you run homebrew apps.. But if you upgrade to 2.0 now, you'll lock yourself out of the ability to run the upgrader for any hacked version. This is pretty typical of 'softmod' style hacks; being an early adpoter is not the wisest course of action.

Unless of course there is a vulnerability in 2.0 that will let you run homebrew... If you want to bank on that, be my guest.

Re:Early adoption (2, Interesting)

th0mas.sixbit.org (780570) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177087)

Not really.

The update is encrypted and signed. You can't modify it. //yeah, yeah, "break the encryption" but it's most likely signed by PKI and we don't have the private half.

A Worthy Effort (3, Insightful)

taskforce (866056) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177011)

In some ways Sony are obliged to break our hacks... their Legal team probably told them they have to do it. (I'm sure the engineers are all sitting on 1.0 versions themselves) Nintendo would probably love to sue Sony (IANAL but I do know that there have been been lawsuits brought about for stupider things.)

I think this is a great solution, because it actually benefits the majority of people who don't hack their PSP, and people who already have a different browsers won't use it if they don't need to.

If only Sony would take this approach with their music bussiness and try and create better customer experiences than illegal download methods, rather than fighting them with lawyers. Hopefully this upgrade will be a good way to show Sony that superior features are a much better way of fighting the underworld than sueing them or DRMing them into hell.

Unfortunately I think that Sony's different divisions are too diserate and isolated from eachother to heed this advice from eachother.

Its all in how you look at it. (2, Interesting)

Negroiso (892386) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177014)

I think its all in the view of who you are. I am glad that most the people on this site are a little more educated than alot of PSP sites I have found. I read comments about things like this update and all you read about is, people who have 1.5 wanting to update to 2.0 and people with 1.51 complaining to the 1.5 about no updating.

If you want to update thats your choice. Sony isn't making you update (yet) and you really never actually HAVE to update. Even if updates are manditory by new games you shouldn't complain. The purpose of the system was to play Sony Playstation portable games. NOT HOMEBREW, its just an extra "hack". I think people have taken this to far and have began to thing that playing nintendo or snes9x was the reason PSP came out. How terribly untrue. I also highly doubt that Sega or Sony will produce thier own emulators for the system. We already saw how that went with Dreamcast when Sega produced the "Smash Volume Hits" the emulator that Sega made to run its own games was hacked, ripped and re-distro'ed as some one's personal creation. =\

Although I would personally PAY for a service that would let me play emulated games on the psp incase some one is listening 5-15$ a month for unlimited access to games would be worth it to me to keep up with firmware and have all the oldies.

It comes down to. . . Do you want to keep up with eventually the latest games, or stay with your old pac man portable?

The choice is yours and yours alone, so stop complaining about why people are stupid/not stupid for updating. its a choice just like whether you want to drink pepsi or not.

The JAP 2.0 firmware update does work on US PSP's and is translated into English upon update completion. So far I have not seen much coverage over it. I also am contenplating the update. Right now the Tenchi Browser satisfies me. . . though lacking a back button I have faith something will come about. Till better games get released I will just play Wipeout and SNES all day.

Thanks for a great system Sony.

Re:Its all in how you look at it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177102)

Not that I care, but in case you didn't know: Japan should be shortened to JPN not JAP. I learned this the hard way and had a JAP angry at me...

sweet (5, Interesting)

bonk (13623) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177023)

It's about time.

I think the psp has some serious potential to be an all purpose multimedia device. You can already play music, movies and watch your pictures on this thing.

I think it would be interesting to set up a web page and some utilities to control your home stereo/digital music player, DVR, lights and anything else you would like, intended to be controled from your psp. The wireless router would have to be configured to only accept your psp's MAC, and some other authentication would have to take place on the web page/server end (having to enter a username/password would be a real drag to seamless integration)

I'm definately interested in getting a PSP now that they have included a built in web browser (that doesn't need some goofy hack to get around). Though, like many others, I also want to wait until someone figures out how to crack/bypass the security so homebrew apps can run again. Or for some company to release a signed emulator for the psp, I'd be willing to pay for a NES or SNES or whatever emulator if it wasn't complete garbage.

Does anyone know if the digital signed executables for the PSP is intended to stop piracy of UMD games, or if it is designed to stop any homebrew development? Both?

List of Features and New Ceramic White (5, Informative)

Xeo 024 (755161) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177031)

Network Features:

        * Internet Browser - Probably the biggest thing yet to come to the PSP, a web browser. The browser supports standard 4.01 HTML, but will not support Flash streaming. Although some minor bugs, you will be able to connect to any website through your wireless hotspot.
        * New Network Menu - This is the new icon that will be installed on your PSP, it will act as the shortcut to the web browser.

Video Features:

        * Jump Function - Jump function added (UMD Video & UMD Music)
        * A-B Function - This allows you to repeat one portion of the clip.
        * 4x3 size - A new size to watch videos in
        * Mute - Mute function added for videos, even though a general mute function came with the original system.
        * MP4 (AVC) playback - New playback format.

Music Features:

        * ATRAC3plus playback - Now you can put ATRAC3plus files on your PSP.
        * MP4 AAC & WAVE Support - This version will allow you to play MP4 audio (MP4's AAC format) as well as Linear PCM WAVE files.

Photo Features:

        * Wallpaper Feature - Another big feature for the PSP, can you guess it? You got it, a personalized wallpaper feature.
        * Photo Sharing - You can now share images with a friend using the wireless ad-hoc connection (local)
        * New Formats - The PSP can now read TIFF, GIF and BMP files.

Setting Features:

        * New Character SetTheme Setting
        * Internet Browser Restriction Setting - Set security settings for your web browser.
        * WPA Support - Don't like WEP? isn't secure enough for you? you can now access the net with WPA-PSK (TKIP.)Web Support on Keypad

Source [gamebattles.com]

Sony also released a ceramic white version [engadget.com] of the PSP.

Re:List of Features and New Ceramic White (1)

MKalus (72765) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177147)

Why isn't the white PSP coming black ear phones?

I mean seriously, they packed white ones with a black device, where is the continuity?

User Agent string saying Mozilla doesn't mean much (1)

starwed (735423) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177040)

User agent says it is Mozilla/4.0

Most versions of Internet Explorer say Mozilla/4.0 at the beginning. In fact, almost all web browsers stick a "Mozilla" in at the beginning, as can be seen here. [wikipedia.org] .

mod d0w8 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177060)

continues to lose t1ired arguments

Homebrew Browser? (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177076)

I'm surprised someone hasn't programmed a homebrew web browser, for those who want the 2.00 functionality but still want to play custom software.

Re:Homebrew Browser? (1)

ChrisF79 (829953) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177192)

Writing a web browser is tough tough work. Look at Microsoft. They've been working on IE now for a decade and can't get things right.

Re:Homebrew Browser? (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177255)

Doesn't have to be perfect. And I'm sure someone from the OSS community could put together something based on Mozilla or somesuch.

I was thinking of getting a PSP (3, Interesting)

acb (2797) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177108)

but then I decided against it. Without hacks it'd be useless except as a means of consuming expensive commercial content, and Sony are doing their worst, technically and legally, to keep it locked down. As far as hackable, portable devices, the Nokia 770 looks far more useful.

OTOH, I'd be tempted to buy a PSP if Katamari Damacy was out for it (I don't live in the US or Japan and thus can't get the PS2 version), but apparently they're porting the next version to the Nintendo DS as well.

Sony PSP a Video iPod before. Apple? (1)

Ohmster (843198) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177116)

Russell Beattie makes an interesting hypothetical case for the Sony PSP to be an interesting "video ipod", IF Sony were to take certain actions, in addition to upgrading the browser. In my view there are business considerations that are larger than the technical issues that need to be considered. More here: http://mp.blogs.com/mp/2005/07/on_sony_psp_tur.htm l [blogs.com]

PSP Hype... and a hardware question. (1)

mac os ken (732050) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177128)

I've been let down by the lack of software. Lumines is phenomenal with its staying power. However, the only thing that keeps me going on my 1.5 PSP is the homebrew. I don't think I'll be updating.

Also, I have two dead pixels on my PSP. Getting info from SONY as far as what I can do with this thing is like eating a bowl of teeth. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. I realize that if any work is done I'll end up with new firmware. But the hackers will help with that issue...

Give me one more tweak (1)

PktLoss (647983) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177175)

If the update included software to turn my PSP into a WiFi detector it would be worth sacraficing and/all opportunities to use homebrew apps.

Re:Give me one more tweak (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13177208)

it does. go to configure wifi and dont enter an SSID. it will scan and a list of detected APs will come up.

Somewhat Off-Topic (1)

p_conrad (118670) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177188)

I've only tried the SNES emulator on 1.5, using the loader as opposed to the card swap. Currently, the performace leaves something to be desired. In order to replay an old favorite Earthbound, I need to ramp up the clock speed and skip some frames. Even then, it still slows down when you get a lot of people moving on the screen at once.

Is the performace better under firmware 1.0? I'm just wondering if dodging the anti-hacks in the firmware is causing trouble, or if it's just a function of the emulation itself.

Another observation - Maxing out the clock speed seems to speed up battery use to the point where it costs you more juice to run SNES than a game that accesses the UMD a lot.

Finally.. (4, Funny)

kronchev (471097) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177235)

Finally, we can stop those goddamn hackers from stealing Sony's money by running a Nintendo emulator on their $250 unit combined with the $60 memory stick they bought! Stupid kids want everything for free, god bless Sony for taking back what was theirs!

Wont take hackers long... (1)

doormat (63648) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177260)

Considering it only took one day for Windows Genuine Advantage to be hacked [extended64.com] , it certainly wont take long for them to get around whatever got put in 2.00.

Not just for kids anymore... (1)

chia_monkey (593501) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177267)

Sony...with their Pr0n Station Portable. Now you can get pr0n wherever you are.

No WPA Stil????? (0, Troll)

Araxen (561411) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177300)

When is Sony going to support WPA for the built-in wireless? I find it absurd that they haven't added support for it yet.

Real time firmware update war (4, Interesting)

British (51765) | more than 9 years ago | (#13177308)

Wow, PSP hasn't been out on the market long, and firmware updates are coming out as fast as hacks can be made for them.

To me, that is funny. The endless waltz of people releasing useful software for them(emulators), and then Sony does an upate soon after, with an incentive like a browser, etc.

Maybe I'll get a PSP when the dust settles.
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