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I can't believe I was actually worried about this. (4, Informative)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188848)


A simple hack has been found that disables the check.

It's simple, all right...as simple as the kids over at Microsoft who decided to implement an anti-piracy measure utilizing javascript without any input validation. Sheesh.

Re:I can't believe I was actually worried about th (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188881)

Wait. You were scared?

Re:I can't believe I was actually worried about th (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188883)

yeah if this was on hackthissite.org it'd be hacked in a new world record time!

Re:I can't believe I was actually worried about th (5, Interesting)

Zzesers92 (819281) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188907)

the kids over at Microsoft who decided to implement an anti-piracy measure utilizing javascript without any input validation.

In a cost comparison, they probably figured a cheap, easy means to get people who otherwise did not know they had a pirated version to purchase outweighed trying to lock out people who knowingly run a pirated copy (i.e., people who will use this hack).

Re:I can't believe I was actually worried about th (2, Funny)

daxomatic (772926) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188916)

well,

hahahahaha
after reading this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=new+windo ws+Vista&btnG=Search [google.com]
Introducing Windows Vista(TM). It enables a new level of confidence in your PC and
in your ability to get the most out of it

LOL
ROFL
hahahahaha
etc ect

Re:I can't believe I was actually worried about th (2, Funny)

Monkelectric (546685) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189069)

The original text of that site read:

Introducing Windows Vista(TM). It enables a new level of confidence in your PC and in your ability to get the most out of *YOU*.

Re:I can't believe I was actually worried about th (2, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188929)

as simple as the kids over at Microsoft who decided to implement an anti-piracy measure utilizing javascript without any input validation.

You mean I don't even have to hold down the Shift key? ;-)

bwahahah (5, Funny)

1336.5 (901985) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188856)

Quality programming I tell you. Quality!

Re:bwahahah (5, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188939)

Balmer: "What are you going to do tonight, Brain?"

Gates: "Same thing we do every night, Stinky. TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"

Re:bwahahah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188971)

Gods, I wish I had mod points.

Re:bwahahah (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189056)

AC's don't get mod points, ass faggot

Re:bwahahah (1)

rebug (520669) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189085)

He defeated slashdot's security mechanism that prevents logged-in users from posting anonymously.

Fear them skills!

It works... for now (5, Interesting)

gbulmash (688770) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188857)

Just tried it and it works (after Microsoft forced me to download the Genuine Advantage update).

Sadly, Microsoft will issue a new version of Genuine Advantage that disables the hack and make you use the new version before you can use Microsoft update, so I believe this is only a temporary reprieve. I guess it will be a back and forth between MS and and hackers until MS has secured Genuine Advantage.

I've got a licensed, genuine version of Windows, but F them for making me jump through hoops to receive continued support. I paid for this and I shouldn't have to keep wasting my time to soothe their paranoid brows.

Just another reason to keep trying new Linux distros and updates on my testbed system until I find one I like enough to switch (tried so far: Ubuntu, SuSE, CentOS 3.3, Linspire, Knoppix, Mandrake 10). Already using OpenOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird and have a WAMP (Windows, Apache, MySQL, PHP) set-up for development work. Going to Linux is a small step, but there are a few apps (like video editing, graphics editing) where I just don't have the patience to spend a whole bunch of time learning Linux apps that are 'almost' there in terms of their UI. Maybe I'll hit the Crossover Office site to see if they've gone to gold level support on some of my must-have Windows apps yet.

- Greg

Re:It works... for now (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188910)

Jump through hoops? I was verified in under thirty seconds with two clicks, and every download since has been simple and trouble free. It's fairly typical "I wubb linux" gibberish when you say you've got to "Jump through hoops", to make those two clicks, when you'd spend longer typing apt-get at the command line.

Re:It works... for now (4, Insightful)

Alan (347) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188973)

The irony of course is that because of security concerns, MS has been saying that to be safe don't run exe's off the net and disable activeX, and to ensure security, they're making you run exe's off the net and use ActiveX.

How long before someone creates a phishing site that lets people download a 'genuinewindows.exe' that's not so genuine?

video editing on Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188952)

Going to Linux is a small step, but there are a few apps (like video editing, graphics editing) where I just don't have the patience to spend a whole bunch of time learning Linux apps that are 'almost' there in terms of their UI.

You must have missed this [slashdot.org].....

Re:video editing on Linux (1)

gbulmash (688770) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189061)

You must have missed this.....

All well and good if I want to make the sequel to "Sky Captain", but not quite the simplicity of Premiere Elements.

- Greg

Re:It works... for now (3, Insightful)

Achra (846023) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188968)

I'm with you. As far as a just plug in and there you go Linux distribution goes, I don't think that Mandrake (Mandriva) can be beat.. I'm loving Kubuntu, though, I think it's the tops... Despite some issues, since KDE really isn't the supported window manager for Ubuntu. Have you tried Cedega for running windows apps? It's not free, but it's CHEAP and it has worked for everything I've tried, most especially games. Photoshop works under it, and I do all my video editing with VirtualDub.. So I don't have to jump through any hoops for that one.

Re:It works... for now (2, Interesting)

Compholio (770966) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189068)

Maybe I'll hit the Crossover Office site to see if they've gone to gold level support on some of my must-have Windows apps yet.

I would recommend trying WINE (Crossover Office is a spinoff of WINE) first since it is free. What I'd like to see is for WINE to start providing a "Windows Alternative Update" where they provide all the DLLs they've been reverse engineering as an alternative update for the Windows 2000 users that are about to get screwed.

Re:It works... for now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189091)

That's telling... that you've tried so many distributions and *still* none of them are more suitable to you than jumping through Microsoft's hoops...

Long live the King baby!

Great! (5, Funny)

Luscious868 (679143) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188859)

Let's post it on Slashdot for all to see so Microsoft will find out about it and make it harder to get around!

Re:Great! (0)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188901)

Let's see.

When somebody posts about an Cisco security exploit, it's a good thing.

When somebody posts about a workaround to get past Microsoft's licensing it's a bad.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Re:Great! (1)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189046)

Yes, you can, but you're missing the point. It's not hipocrisy, though only small, petty minds are troubled by such a thing as that.

The point is, this is a 'main-stream' news site, and gets a lot of traffic. The best way for a company to find out about an exploit they need to fix is for it to get lots of 'high-level' coverage.

That's why when you find an exploit you can use for something, you generally try to 'keep it on the low.'

Got it? Most of us could probably have found this just as easily if it had not been posted on /., but now it is, so it's that much easier to find, which means it will be brought to MS's attention that much more quickly, which means they will have a fix for this work around that much sooner.

Two ways around it already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189109)

Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:

javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

Also, disabling the Genuine Advantage plugin in MSIE disables the check, apparently.

Javascript?? (4, Insightful)

WebHostingGuy (825421) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188863)

Are they serious about security, privacy and piracy yet?

Re:Javascript?? (1)

interiot (50685) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188941)

I guess people could come up with conspiracy theories for this... that Microsoft WANTED people to crack it as fast as possible so they could whine about it to senators or something.

Does anybody know if Herr Gates is scheduled to meet any important people soon?

WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188864)

Anyone notice anything wrong with the URL listed? It has AD at the end so I bet 90% of the mozilla users with adblock will have to it turn off to view the page. Is this the future of all URLs on the web?

Re:WTF (1)

Big Boss (7354) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188959)

I have adblock on and it worked fine. Update your rules. No different than spam filtering really. General rules like "ad" are going to get false positives. Of course, I only use adblock on the really annoying ones. Simple banners and such I usually leave alone.

Re:WTF (4, Informative)

TheViciousOverWind (649139) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189026)

Erh... Think just a tiny bit before you post inane babble like that - The article was called "Microsoft Genuine Advantage[...]" and in the url it says "microsoft_genuine_ad". - See the resemblance? It's just an autogenerated filename their CMS came up with probably.

And now for something completely different (a comment about the article): I'm pretty sure the one who programmed this check knew that it wasn't bulletproof, and maybe it's just a case of a "proof of concept" project which suddenly becomes a "Gone live" project. - It will be pretty easy for them to fix, but it really is a huge embarassment for them, and you would think that a company with that kind of resources had rules to cover things like that (as in Rule #302742314 "Clientside checking is only okay if followed by a Serverside check").

Good job guys (0)

KirbyTheRobot (903409) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188867)

Thanks for posting that for millions of people to see. Behold this Slashdot: ohuk [overheardintheuk.com].

Re:Good job guys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189051)

Aren't you tired of peddling your stupid site?

Why steal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188868)

Who is stealing this software anyway? Does anyone actually use MS shit still? fuck, I thought the world was evolved.

Re:Why steal? (1)

deesine (722173) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188992)


There are people who can help you. You're not the only one with this condition. I know. I also used to be a geek that had only geek friends.

Unbelievable. (2, Interesting)

455 (718431) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188869)

That really is amazing. Proof of why I don't use the MS Validation Control when we develop in VS.NET - Just turn it off!

Re:Unbelievable. (1)

kmmatthews (779425) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188984)

Dude, wtf are you smoking? The MS Validation Control and this Genuine Advantage crap are TWO COMPLETELY SEPERATE AND UNRELATED THINGS.

Here Is The Proof-Of-Concept Crack For This (0, Redundant)

ZOverLord (902034) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188870)

Re:Here Is The Proof-Of-Concept Crack For This (1)

bvimo (780026) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189019)

Well only a link to boingboing.net. Which has already been provided.

Simple Doesn't begin to describe it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188874)

This is just too simple. I know we aren't setting the bar high for Microsoft but come on now. They should have been able to do a little better than this.

That's a story? (1)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188876)

That has to be the shortest article I've read! Roughly 45 words in it. Article summaries have been longer.

Oh well, sucks to be Microsoft. Now they've had their anti-theft security cracked again. Everyone's got to be laughing at them.

Wow! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189070)

You actually read the articles?!

i hate pet dogs and their owners. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188877)

die

The pirates be losin' their cuttin' edge, arr. (5, Funny)

supersocialist (884820) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188882)

I mean, seriously, I expected a crack out much sooner. What's it been, six hours?

Re:The pirates be losin' their cuttin' edge, arr. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189073)

RTFA before *trying* to be funny, idiot - 24 hours

only for the geeks (1)

arkmannj (770255) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188887)

The crack (which I have no intention of using, since I did buy my copies) really will only be used by Geeks, the check will still thwart a lot of the casual average joe. at least in my opinion.

Re:only for the geeks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188950)

"The crack (which I have no intention of using, since I did buy my copies) really will only be used by Geeks, the check will still thwart a lot of the casual average joe. at least in my opinion.

Uhm... of course the Geek would be the only one to use something like this. They're most likely the ones with the cracked copy. The "average joe" usually doesn't have this.

Re:only for the geeks (1)

fireboy1919 (257783) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189087)

Yes...because the highly technical operation "pasting into the addressbar" is far, far beyond the level of knowledge of the average user*. The bigger problem is that the average Windows user can't even read or click buttons, and will, when frustrated, end up throwing their own feces at the screen.

*This is based on the assumption that the average Windows user is, in fact, a chimpanzee.

Shocking stas gathered by program (5, Funny)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188896)

...after users attempted to update, MS found out that there is actually only 1 registered copy of Windows XP.

Re:Shocking stas gathered by program (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188976)

And it's mine...!! o.O

Re:Shocking stas gathered by program (2, Interesting)

interiot (50685) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188994)

Further research revealed that while some people had actually paid for XP, they found repeated product activation to be such a painful experience, that it was easier to just download the ilicit version and be done with it.

Re:Shocking stas gathered by program (2, Interesting)

savagedome (742194) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189024)

Only one? So, assuming Bill has the only original, that means Stevie B is pirating it. Damn. I always knew there was something fishy behind the Monkey Boy charm.

Re:Shocking stas gathered by program (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189036)

...and the serial number for that windows starts like "FCKGW-..."

as always (4, Insightful)

cryptoz (878581) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188899)

MS continues to do its absolute best (or does it?) to prevent their products from being hacked to bits (no pun intended), and they have no choice. As part of their business, it's mandatory that they attempt to curtail software piracy. But they know, and we know, that it can't be done. It's like the terrorists (now, seriously guys, I'm NOT making a link between hackers and terrorists, I'm above that). But look at it this way. The US government has to protect against all possible terror threats, whereas the terrorists only have to find one single way to break through. That is, Microsoft will have to figure out every possible way that their products can be cracked and provide protection, but the hackers must only find one single weakness. So to speak.

I'm Speechless (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189039)

MS continues to do its absolute best (or does it?) to prevent their products from being hacked to bits (no pun intended)

This is their absolute best?

They will lose more sales by doing this (1)

HiddenCamper (811539) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188904)

If only it was this easy to crack the PSP's security. I dont know why microsoft even tries. If anything, by not allowing us apps like antispyware, its just going to make more of a headache for the non-savvy windows users, and force more people to switch over to a more secure system (i.e. mac and linux). with the Macs switching to intel, i think the OS business will start to get interesting soon.

hack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188905)

A simple hack has been found that disables the check. Cool! Just like the simple hacks that can disable Windows.

Can't really be suprised (2, Insightful)

Sv-Manowar (772313) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188924)

A product with the market penetration as big as Windows is always going to be cracked, as soon as possible after it comes out. No matter what they do to try and prevent it, which is why some companies don't spend that much on anti-piracy for the product on release now, something microsoft can't do... so they have to try their best.

Way to go M$ (1)

wobedraggled (549225) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188933)

All I can do is laugh, i was just telling my boss about the key check less than an hour ago. Hahahahahaha. I cant wait to see how secure the XBox360 will be

Re:Way to go M$ (5, Insightful)

pla (258480) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189088)

I cant wait to see how secure the XBox360 will be

Fairly.

Don't mistake MS's "see, we tried" pretend attempts at security, and their "this hurts our bottom line" real security.

The original XBox still has no generally applicable software-only crack for it, after several years in the field. Real security.

This new "please don't pirate Windows" joke lasted 24 hours. Why? Microsoft WANTS people to pirate Windows. Very, very few private individuals would pay $300 for an OS plus $300 for an office app suite. However, if "everyone" uses it already, then the sort of customers who do buy, such as businesses and governments, will far more likely go with Microsoft.

Call me paranoid if you want, but NO modern attempt at secure authentication has any excuse for not using server-side verified, AES-encrypted communication. A pathetic little unverified Javascript toy? Gimme a break.

That answers that.. (2, Funny)

jav1231 (539129) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188936)

I guess they've answered "Can Open Source and Commercial Software Coexist?" with a YES, and added a HOW!

Who really cares about this?? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188937)

Microsoft is becoming irrelevant, passe. Why would I care if I could pirate Windows? I don't use Microsoft software now, I don't plan to use Microsoft software in the future, it does not matter if they give the stuff away.

People who break authentication so they can pirate software are hurting free and open source software. This behaviour encourages people to pirate the software. If you want to use Microsoft software then don't break the law and don't use pirated copies. That's right, pay for legal use of the software. Use you elite hacking skills to improve free and open source software.

There have been windows update wrappers forever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188942)

They diddle your pid, login and present updates and rediddle your pid back to devilsown or whatever blacklisted pid you happen to be running. I bet they're doing something similar for GA.

Re:There have been windows update wrappers forever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189033)

Dear Bill Gates,
Please don't diddle with my pid anymore, it makes me feel dirty.
Thanks,
Timmy

Javascript?? (1)

jurt1235 (834677) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188964)

Does it have to be compatible with anything else than IE? Just make it in activeX! It will make it harder to crack: Using IE will get your computer deadly infected with spyware and virusses, so you can not hack the genuine advantage program yourself, ergo the genuine advantage program is safe and secure.

Actually MS sites work pretty well with firefox (I do not know if it looks or works different in IE since they do not make a version for linux (they made one for SUN, hum, maybe give that a try....))

Developers! (0, Redundant)

Skiron (735617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188977)

Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, {sweaty armpits}, Developers, Developers, Developers... [all clap]

Re:Developers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189102)

I don't get it. Is this supposed to be sung to the Badger song? If so, why in god's name would you replace "mushroom" with "sweaty armpits"?

Article Text (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188978)

Thursday, July 28, 2005

Microsoft "Genuine Advantage" cracked in 24h:

"This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.' It was cracked within 24 hours."

Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:

java script:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

It turns off the trigger for the key check.

Re:Article Text (5, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189017)

I love these sorts of vulnerabilities. Maybe we should look for "GiveMeRootPriveleges=NO" and "SendMeTenMillionDollarsInUnmarkedBills=NO". Maybe there's a "FormatEveryHardDriveInRedmondAndInstallRedhat=NO" .

Hubris or stupidity? (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188981)

How did nobody at MS catch this? Security through obscurity? Blind hubris? Too much Koolaid? THIS, I feel, indicates more about the quality of Microsoft as an organization, than any stupid Ballmer or Gates speech.

Re:Hubris or stupidity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189005)

Its less about the quality of MS programmers and more about a fact of nature of software - you can't force software to do what you want it to do.

The simple fact is that one can dissasemble any code, change it, and reassemble it to make it do what they want.

This is why there isn't a single software anti-piracy solution out there that hasn't been cracked.

So Happy It's Thursday (1)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 8 years ago | (#13188995)

Well, this is another So Happy It's Thursday moment for the guys from Redmond.

Sharp as a marble, those security guys.

Site is slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13188996)

The link is slashdotted but if this "crack" is what I think it is...

Basically, on a pirated XP system you run windowsupdate. It has you download the genuine advantage program. Then it checks your PC and says you're using an invalid key and you cant use windowsupdate.

In IE, you go to the Manage Add-ins area (SP2 only, but im sure you can disable it the old way in older XP and win2k) and disable the genuine advantage activex control.

Restart IE, go to windowsupdate, tada you have access to all the updates

piracy leads to marketshare? (3, Insightful)

ackdesha (572569) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189027)

This seems like such a amatuer web developer move that I'm led to think maybe they left it easy to bypass on purpose. Come on, if Microsoft eliminated all piracy of windows, people might actually try something else.

Transcription (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13189035)

AV sez, "This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.'

It was cracked within 24 hours."Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:
    javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

It turns off the trigger for the key check.

MS will just use another technique then. (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189052)

Probably one that will be labelled a critical update and won't require any checks to download once MS has it ready.

And wanna bet that MS is gonna obfuscate the issue ever so slightly in the update description to make it appear to a person that doesn't read it very carefully that the update in question actually fixes an issue far more critical to the user than it really is, when in actuality it's only really critical to Microsoft?

Since BoingBoing is getting hammered... (3, Informative)

randomErr (172078) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189055)

Since BoingBoing is getting hammered here's the text of the article:

Thursday, July 28, 2005
Microsoft "Genuine Advantage" cracked in 24h:


window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all'

AV sez, "This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.' It was cracked within 24 hours."

Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:

javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

It turns off the trigger for the key check.

Link [theinquirer.net] (Thanks, AV!)

MS Released this for legt users (2, Interesting)

ken-reno (833154) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189058)

This is deigned for people who think they have a legit copy. It will help with that. I bet a lot of white box shops who install cracked versions of windows are a little nerviousr right now.

That's why choosy SysAdmins choose LINUX. (2, Insightful)

mmell (832646) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189062)

Microsoft Security . . .

Is that anything like Military Intelligence?

---

Somewhere in Redmond, a developer is emptying his desk.

That's the SP2 security advantage... (1)

Thaidog (235587) | more than 8 years ago | (#13189092)

Another WELL THOUGHT OUT MS security scheme cracked again... sure to make front page news!
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