Beta
×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

Handheld Gaming / Media-player Gadget Runs Linux

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the redundantly-so-yes-it-runs-linux-redundantly dept.

Handhelds 238

An anonymous reader writes "LinuxDevices has profiled a new portable game- and media-player based on embedded Linux. The GPX2-F100 features dual ARM9 processors, USB 2.0, a 3.5-inch color LCD, and support for both native and emulated games. A Linux SDK (software development kit) will be available when the device ships. Hmmm... I wonder how hard it'll be to get GPE and OPIE running on it?"

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

hah (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209925)

beat everyone to it, even though it's a troll
first post!

Re:hah (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210172)

congrats, dude! you've just beat Slashdot! now get a first post in a story from each category in order to achieve 100% and unlock the secret bonus articles!!!

Lets get this over with... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209928)

The question is...

Re:Lets get this over with... (3, Funny)

waltznumber3 (899425) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209944)

Yes, but does it run l-- oh, crap, it does... right then.... i'll be going now..

WHY IS LINUX A PIECE OF SHIT? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210145)

Yes indeed that is the question. A few answers apply:

-Lack of QA
-No creativity, just copy of other software
-Very buggy
-Hard to use for most people
-Lack of good software (think of MS Works Suite 2005, for example)
-Difficult to get real (commercial) games working
-Little documentation
-Little consistency
-Ugly

Well, no wonder 2005 IS NOT the year of the desktop for Linux.

You are failures...

Re:WHY IS LINUX A PIECE OF SHIT? (0, Offtopic)

rudydog (890388) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210310)

You ass!

Half of the stuff your saying is bull shit.

-Lack of good software (think of MS Works Suite 2005, for example) For one Ms works == good software? Wtf are you smoking! Plus there is open office.

-Lack of QA Again. Wtf are you smoking? Use Google and take a look.

-Difficult to get real (commercial) games working Use winex ( cedega now ). It doesn't always work. But when it does its faster then windows in most cases.

My question for you...


Have you ever used Linux other then Knoppix if that?

You are failures...
You fucking idiot.

Re:WHY IS LINUX A PIECE OF SHIT? (0, Offtopic)

mek2600 (677900) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210423)

pwned

Re:WHY IS LINUX A PIECE OF SHIT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210432)

Are you familiar with the meaning of 'YHBT, YHL, HAND.' ?

If not, I suggest you look it up.

Re:WHY IS LINUX A PIECE OF SHIT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210633)

Thats:
"You have been trolled, You have lost, have a nice day" for those not in the know.

Where are the games? (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210290)

Oh, wait, you were wanting trolls. My bad :)

Seriously, though. Where are the games? The article covers the hardware, which sounds pretty neat, but the only mention about games is that an SDK will be provided (duh), and it can run emulators (neat, but where's the money in this?). A handheld gaming device needs games, preferably professionally designed and developed (please, no Tux Racer).

Re:Where are the games? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210311)

You're not the target audience for this. This nifty littl epiece of hardware is for indie game _developers_, For standard gamers, there's the usual closed-source offerings from nintendo and now sony.

Re:Where are the games? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210324)

That's the beautiful part, no one bought the original GP32 for the games (all 5 of them), they bought it because it was unique, powerful, had a friendly community, lots of homebrew and dev support, and emulators/media ability out the wazoo.

Same reason people will buy the GPx2, Versitility, emulation, media playing capabilities and open source devving for under $200.

Re:Where are the games? (1)

arose (644256) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210330)

Professionally designed and developed games gave notheing on NetHack.

Re:Where are the games? (2, Informative)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210407)

The predecessor (GP32) was mostly used for an emulator handheld. There were a number of games released, but pretty much everyone ran NES, Sega, Commodore 64 and other emulators on it.
The difference is unlike Sony which keeps enforcing the PSP lockdown through bios updates, the GP32 and this new system are designed to make homebrew and emulation easy.

Re:Where are the games? (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210670)

The difference is unlike Sony which keeps enforcing the PSP lockdown through bios updates, the GP32 and this new system are designed to make homebrew and emulation easy.

And also unlike Sony, this will never have official support from developers that create games that sell systems (Square, Rockstar, Capcom, etc). It's all well and good that it caters to the homebrew developer, but that's a very tiny market at best. However, just because they're not trying to compete with the PSP or DS doesn't mean they can't try to get commercial developers interested in the platform. The GBA is still going strong on 2D games, so it's not like there's no audience out there.

First Prime Factorization Post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209935)

GPX2-F100: GPX2-F2*5*5
ARM9: ARM3*3
LinuxDevices has profiled a new portable game- and media-player based on embedded Linux. The GPX2-F2*5*5 features dual ARM3*3 processors, USB 2.0, a 3.5-inch color LCD, and support for both native and emulated games. A Linux SDK (software development kit) will be available when the device ships. Hmmm... I wonder how hard it'll be to get GPE and OPIE running on it?

FFPFP (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209941)

first fixed prime factorization post: GPX2-F100: GPX2-F2*2*5*5 ARM9: ARM3*3 LinuxDevices has profiled a new portable game- and media-player based on embedded Linux. The GPX2-F2*2*5*5 features dual ARM3*3 processors, USB 2.0, a 3.5-inch color LCD, and support for both native and emulated games. A Linux SDK (software development kit) will be available when the device ships. Hmmm... I wonder how hard it'll be to get GPE and OPIE running on it?

FFFFPFP (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209960)

First Fixed Formatting Fixed Prime Factorization Post:
GPX2-F100: GPX2-F2*2*5*5
ARM9: ARM3*3
LinuxDevices has profiled a new portable game- and media-player based on embedded Linux. The GPX2-F2*2*5*5 features dual ARM3*3 processors, USB 2.0, a 3.5-inch color LCD, and support for both native and emulated games. A Linux SDK (software development kit) will be available when the device ships. Hmmm... I wonder how hard it'll be to get GPE and OPIE running on it?

Handheld Gaming Device Runs linux (0, Redundant)

wot.narg (829093) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209938)

No shit [dslinux.org]

Wait, let me get this straight (1, Troll)

Charles Jo (862028) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209942)

LinuxDevices announced that there is a new device which uses Linux. OMG.

Yes, but... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209949)

Will it run Windows?

Re:Yes, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210168)

Will it play WMA?

Re:Yes, but... (2, Informative)

ZephyrXero (750822) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210242)

Yes it will according to the article (WMA, not Windows).

Re:Yes, but... (2, Funny)

XFilesFMDS1013 (830724) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210255)

Maybe, but why would you want it too?

Because Linux sucks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210581)

Duh

Re:Yes, but... (1)

KodeK (887864) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210412)

Some people don't get jokes...

The real strength of OLinux: embedded systems. (5, Insightful)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209951)


I believe that Linux will make more significant inroads into the user community via embedded devices than it ever could as a more general-purpose operating system.

As a parallel, take the electric motor. When the electric motor first became commercially available, it was sold in catalogs as a general-purpose unit, along with various belts and pulleys to adapt it for specific tasks. Nowadays, electric motors come in all shapes and sizes, each customized for their specific tasks. Many household appliances contain electric motors that we don't think twice about. When's the last time you performed maintennce on the electric motor in your toothbrush?

I believe computers are moving along the same route, progressing from general-purpose systems to smaller, more ubiquitous installations. I also believe Linux is suited for such a move in a way that the other OSes are not.

Re:The real strength of OLinux: embedded systems. (2, Insightful)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210011)

I believe that Linux will make more significant inroads into the user community via embedded devices than it ever could as a more general-purpose operating system.

Yep.

Or, more to the point, Linux will shine in areas where it can shed the various Windows-replacements that slow it down. Linux works great on servers because the average user doesn't ever even notice the OS that hands them their website.

Similiarly, Linux has chances for great growth in areas where people don't mind sudden and dramatic UI changes--such as when buying a new dedicated video machine, new cell phone, or (to a much lesser extent) a new PDA.

Re:The real strength of OLinux: embedded systems. (2, Insightful)

multiplexo (27356) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210097)

The biggest reason that Linux is going to take over in the embedded space is because you don't have to pay the Microsoft Tax. If you license WinCE (who the fuck came up with that acronym? Are they still employed?) you get to pay Microsoft for every device you ship, which means that Microsoft gets much richer if you develop the next iPod. There's also the fact that WinCE is huge compared to Linux. Strip out the bloat and crap of modern distributions and you get a product that's small and efficient in a way that Windows will never be.

Re:The real strength of OLinux: embedded systems. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210135)

WinCE + WinME + WinNT =

Windows CEMENT [linuxgazette.com]
As hard as a rock and as dumb as a brick.

Re:The real strength of OLinux: embedded systems. (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210361)

If you license WinCE...you get to pay Microsoft for every device you ship, which means that Microsoft gets much richer if you develop the next iPod.

The iPOd is based on a proprietary OS licensed by Apple:

The iPod uses PortalPlayer's "Digital Media Platform", which is marketed as a turn-key solution as it includes System-On-Chip integrated circuits (ICs), a customizable firmware suite, integrated third party services, PC software, and so on. The iPod uses PortalPlayer's PP50xx chip, which contains two ARM7TDMI microprocessor cores. The iPod's embedded operating system, including its encoding and decoding components, also come from PortalPlayer. iPod's OS [kernelthread.com]

Have you heard Steve Jobs whining about the The PortalPlayer Tax? I didn't think so.

Re:The real strength of OLinux: embedded systems. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210363)

while i absolutely agree with the parent, there is no reference made to the article in the least... 5 for Insightful seems awfully strong. any mods bold enough for an over-rated/off-topic?

With any luck... (2, Insightful)

Retroneous (879615) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209952)

It'll not bomb like a leadweight and will see a European release this time, too....

It's all about Linux on slashdot? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209956)

i'm a gp32 owner (predecessor of this handheld), and an other gp32 owner pointed me to this post.

he had also submitted the arrival of this handheld a week ago, but now it only got posted here cause it was on that linuxdevices? he probably didn't mention linux so it doesn't get posted?

this is the successor of the gp32, the machine that relies on things made by the community, open for any developper since it started and most progs are completely open source (emus for a lot of systems , up to snes and sega genesis, which are about as much as the gp32 can handle, so not perfect, most others are) and has beaten the psp by a few years in playing divx, mp3, ogg, ...

and only cause it's linked to linux it gets posted here, this really doesn't seem right....

Re:It's all about Linux on slashdot? (1)

ZephyrXero (750822) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210283)

The Gamepark has had plenty of mention in the past... just do a search for "gp32 [slashdot.org] " or "gamepark [slashdot.org] ".

Kudos to them (4, Insightful)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209958)

Got to respect a company that lists emulators among the highlights of their game system! Who else would dare to?

Re:Kudos to them (2, Informative)

QJimbo (779370) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210016)

Well, you have to remember emulation itself is perfectly legal. It's just when you download ROMs that you don't own in cart form that you're breaking copyright laws. Then again I wonder if the "download ok - share not ok" thing applies to roms on the net as well.

Re:Kudos to them (1)

KillShill (877105) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210415)

companies who sell products to end users, not companies who sell end-users to their customers.

that's who.

Looks like GBA (1)

blueadept1 (844312) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209961)

This looks like the original GBA. This was quite a nice design- better than the SP in my opinion-, but this particular device has more square corners, which is a bit tacky.

I do not understand the whole 'bumper' idea, and how the article thinks that it is 'clever'. Wouldn't it be more intelligent to have a bumper all the way around, and an inset LCD as to avoid scratches? I wouldn't see why the system would tend to drop on its bottom more often than the top, back, sides, or front.

Nonetheless, this is an interesting system for such a price, and I only hope to see someone hack it to use a tiny hard drive, rather than SD cards.

Sequel to GP32 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209967)

The original Gamepark32 was a nifty homebrew-oriented handheld. It could emulate a lot of older systems - but the SNES was a bit above its capabilities, even with the less common 166mhz versions. It also used the outdated MMC format instead of SD, making adding software a bit of a challenge. This new version looks like the perfect alternative to a PSP as an emu system; plus with the provided SDL support you can expect a lot of ports of SDL games :)

Linux-based game device (1)

KwKSilver (857599) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209972)

OK, that's nice. Where are the games? Did I miss a link? The only thing I miss about Windows is the games. Not enough to go back, but some.

Re:Linux-based game device (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210127)

It runs Linux -- you can already play all the most popular games for it. Games like /etc/X11/XF86Config, apt-get, and man vim are just a few short keystrokes away! Unlockable content includes Google searching for obsolete HOWTOs!

Re:Linux-based game device (1)

miscz (888242) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210158)

Probably there will be very few officially released games. This console is entirely depending on homebrew software. Its precedessor has proven that it is possible, look at all the stuff that was released for GP32 - countless emulators and other nifty apps. Now that it will have more powerful software it will be able to emulate SNES and some arcade machines. And it doesn't require that user knows how to hack and mod his console. Compare it to difficulties that PSP/DS users have to run homebrew software.

Re:Linux-based game device (1)

ZephyrXero (750822) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210224)

Do keep in mind this is a 2D gaming device...so the majority of games made today won't possibly play on it unless they make a 2D port specifically for it (like the GBA). It's not really intended to compete with PSP and the DS...it's more for indie developers and people who want to run emulators...

As for games on your Linux PC... you could always try giving WINE a shot ;)

Not to be rude, but.... (4, Informative)

Cpt_Kirks (37296) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209975)

When are companies going to realize this type of device (Video, MP3, Gaming) needs a fucking HARD DRIVE?

I mean it's not like tiny hard drives don't exist.

At LEAST make it an option!

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210038)

"When are companies going to realize this type of device (Video, MP3, Gaming) needs a fucking HARD DRIVE?"

Hmm yeah, a CF slot would have been nice. Then again, a $200 PocketPc would get you what you want. At least for the video bit. For gaming and music, 1 gig cards are easily available and affordable. You're only going to get 4x that with a CF card. If you want more, prepare yourself for a less portable and more expensive device. That said, the $700 20 gig Archos unit is pretty neat.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210471)

That said, the $700 20 gig Archos unit is pretty neat.

Do you mean the PMA 400 [archos.com] ? That thing is totally sweet. You can download an SDK [archos.com] for it, too.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210137)

I agree. But also why do all these devices need to be hooked up to a PC to do a damn thing. There are so many devices out there that use USB cables. Why not have an actual USB socket on the PDA. Then you could print, use a mouse, use a TV box thingy, Digital radio plug in and a whole load of other stuff. Thats the main reason I barely use my PDA. There are no cheap Plug-ins for them. Yeah a PDA can play MP3's but It can't pick up a radio station. All it needs is a friggin aerial and some decryption software for digital. Hell get it to play TV as well.
Why would I need to go to all the hassle of copying a movie onto an SD card when I should be able to plug in a DVD player.

Yes I know all of the above would use a hell of alotta power. Why not have an extra power supply between the PDA and the device. A couple of rechargable AA batteries out to keep a DVD going for the duration of the movie.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210140)

Adding a microdrive is going to add $200 to the price. Things like the Life Drive seem kind of nifty, but there are several new laptops available at that price.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (1)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210180)

What about a CF slot? That wouldn't add much to the price, and it may actually drop it in price from an SD slot. (Granted, CF IS bigger...)

Then, you could put a MicroDrive in if you wanted one.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (1)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210171)

you can already buy 5GB drives inside CF cards, its just a matter of time before someone manages to squeeze a single 1GB platter inside a SD card.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (1)

saider (177166) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210326)


you can already buy 5GB drives inside CF cards, its just a matter of time before someone manages to squeeze a single 1GB platter inside a SD card.

You can't expect people to buy a device based on some possible future device. You need to design for accessories that are available _now_. Otherwise the customer will simply hold off on buying the device until the required accessories come out.

This device should have a CF slot. It does not add much to the cost and it greatly expands the capabilities.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210392)

you can already buy 5GB drives inside CF cards, its just a matter of time before someone manages to squeeze a single 1GB platter inside a SD card.

What would be the point? You can already get a 2GB SD [pricewatch.com] card.

Re:Not to be rude, but.... (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210562)

I mean it's not like tiny hard drives don't exist.

At LEAST make it an option!

It has USB and it can have the filesystems module to mount paritions off a USB hard drive.

Personally I like the idea of no moving parts in something that can be easily dropped.

Open Development Platforms on Consoles (2, Interesting)

natrius (642724) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209977)

Consumers want their consoles to have open development platforms whether they know it or not. Imagine the kinds of things people would have done with the PSP right now if Sony actually allowed it. It's understandable why they don't: they make money off of games sales that go through them, whereas some indie developer selling games off his website would get them nothing. The sad truth is that you'll never get such a nice piece of hardware as the PSP for a good price with an open development platform. This device looks nice, but it's missing WiFi. Instead it has a radio that only communicates with other units. I'm sure the other PSP specs are better than this device as well, but it'll be interesting to see what people can do with it when it comes out since they won't have to waste time working around firmware upgrades and the like.

Re:Open Development Platforms on Consoles (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210100)

I've seen exactly three uses of "open" or "homebrew" development:

1. Needless desktop application functionality, such as a shell or a web browser, on a device that lacks even a keyboard.
2. Emulators to play others' original commercial work on.
3. Knock-offs of successful commercial games. (ObPineightResponse: But they make the games BETTER!)

Why is it that all the innovative games (Katamari Damacy, etc) still come from big corporations? Why hasn't the Linux development community managed to break the mold that other companies have built for it?

Re:Open Development Platforms on Consoles (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210217)

Did Spacewars come from a big corp?
Did ADVENT come from a big corp?
Did Rogue come from a big corp?
Did MUDs come from big corps?
Did Tetris come from a big corp?
Did Doom come from a big corp?
Did Counter Strike come from a big corp?
Does Liquidwars come from a big corp?
Does Darwinia come from a big corp?
Do noiz2sa & Co. come from a big corp?
Does modern interactive fiction come from big corps?
Do open gaming platforms and libraries come from big corps?

If you only look at what comes from big corps, then everything comes from big corps.

Re:Open Development Platforms on Consoles (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210618)

Wow, games from 20 years ago* didn't come from "big corps." Big whoop.

So I get your point. Old games that people cling to zealously came from independent developers. You should be proud of how the more recent games from that list were bought up or grew into "big corps" and promptly sold out, leaving the open source community to suckle at the "big corps" teats [google.com] for new material.

* BZZT! WRONG! BZZT! WRONG! BZZT! WRONG! BZZT! WRONG! BZZT! THIS IS HOW TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT! WRONG! I CAN REFUTE YOUR POINT! BZZT! HOORAY! I WIN! WRONG!

Re:Open Development Platforms on Consoles (1)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210291)

You're [happypenguin.org] kidding [linuxgames.com] , right [freshmeat.net] ?

The number of innovative open source games out there is astounding. I'll put the Debian 'Games/' package section [debian.org] up against any handheld out there (sure, the GB beats it for quantity, but quality?).

Re:Open Development Platforms on Consoles (2, Insightful)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210593)

No [meriam-webster.com] , I'm [meriam-webster.com] not [meriam-webster.com] . The top listed games are ripoffs of Civilization, any FPS, Puzzle Bobble, Breakout (!!), and emulators to play other games. About the only original game that's worth playing out of that list is Nethack.

Right now the Linux open-source gaming scene has about as much depth as a "500 games in 1" shareware CD from 1991. I'm sure in 14 years you'll have something to instill more pride in prospective users.

What are the benefits? (1)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 9 years ago | (#13209987)

From someone who doesn't know the real hoopla about embedded linux - what are benefits of running linux on a handheld versus making an OS highly optimized for that thing?

Re:What are the benefits? (1)

ytm (892332) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210010)

It makes tinkering with that handheld easier.

Re:What are the benefits? (1)

liquidpele (663430) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210044)

Less developement time, and since it's open source, no licencing.
Not to mention all the stuff that comes with linux... if you were making a product that only did one thing, like receive email, I could see writing a custom solution as something to consider, but when you have a device that you want to do LOTS of stuff, linux is good because it already does lots, and you can build on it from there. I'm assuming that's what you were asking anyways...

Re:What are the benefits? (1)

mpeg4codec (581587) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210504)

Plus GPL'd tools like uClibc and Busybox [quite the pair] make it really easy to develop and build a system that is efficient with both memory and storage. Last I heard, all of the offerings from MS on this behalf are behemoths.

When a single kilobyte makes a difference, you're going to want the system that's already compact to begin with.

Not to mention the fact that you've got a system with a large embedded following and a huge user support community. Slap a few dollars into most underfunded developers' hands and they'll listen to your requests keenly, to boot.

Re:What are the benefits? (1)

IntergalacticWalrus (720648) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210512)

Porting simple SDL-based Linux games to this device will be a breeze, since it's already Linux and SDL.

Re:What are the benefits? (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210613)

what are benefits of running linux on a handheld versus making an OS highly optimized for that thing?
The application that no-one ever thought of putting on the thing at development time can be easily put on it without too much pain of porting.

From TFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13209998)

Hrm...one of the pics says "The GPX2-F100 has a sleek, modern look"....I guess so if you consider the 1980's Nintendo Game and Watch look sleek and modern...

device is not made by Gamepark... (3, Informative)

soapdog (773638) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210018)

This device is not made by gamepark, former gamepark of gp32 fame splited in two companies, one called gamepark and the other called gamepark holdings. Most of the original gp32 team moved to the new GP Holdings company, only one of the engineers stayed on the "other" gamepark which is yet to deliver its new device. So GPX2 is the successor of G32 but is made from a different company populated by the original gp32 crew with a name much like the old company... just check any of the cool gp32 foruns like gp32x.com and check the history.

Re:device is not made by Gamepark... (1)

jellodc (779905) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210669)

If i could mod this up I would.

Re:device is not made by Gamepark... (1)

zaq121 (838716) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210679)

I kind of consider my gp32 as a handheld atari or commodore of the 2000's, I guess this will be the Amiga.

Yeah (-1, Redundant)

dangitman (862676) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210041)

But does it run BeOS?

yes but (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210046)

can you actuly play games on it

Who gives a shit? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210065)

I don't care if some bullshit media player runs linux.

Re:Who gives a shit? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210193)

Then you're on the wrong website, pilgrim.

affirmed

Price (2, Insightful)

someguy456 (607900) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210066)

The best part is that the company is trying to get the final versions out for $100. I doubt that it will end up that low, but I appreciate the effort

Re:Price (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210106)

No. They said they want it UNDER 200 dollars.

Linux games? (2, Interesting)

Toby_Tyke (797359) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210068)

Looks as though the games for this thing will be based around SDL. With a bit of luck, we might see games developed for this being ported to Linux. The only thing stopping me from ditching windows completly is games.

The specs do look very impressive too. Over 8 hours of video playback is far better than a PSP, plus it supports Xvid, so I can rip my DVDs to an SD card for when I'm on the train.

Just hope it gets a european release.

Re:Linux games? (2, Informative)

chudgoo (812186) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210208)

Over 8 hours of video playback is far better than a PSP...

You realize that the screen is larger, right?
And since you mentioned ripping DVDs you are also aware that the GP has a 4:3 screen whereas the PSP has a 16:9 screen... Unless you want to squash them into frame you'd probably be better off with a PSP.

Mandatory Fanboy Declaration Statement!
I own a PSP, DS (x2), GBA SP (x2)

Re:Linux games? (1)

Toby_Tyke (797359) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210399)

You realize that the screen is larger, right? And since you mentioned ripping DVDs you are also aware that the GP has a 4:3 screen whereas the PSP has a 16:9 screen... Unless you want to squash them into frame you'd probably be better off with a PSP.

To be honest, for a device I would be holding at about 15-20 inches from my eyes, 3.5 inch is a big enough screen. 4.3 inches is not much bigger any way.

And borders on my screen don't bother me. Hell, I still don't even have a widescreen TV.

For me, the fact it uses SD cards and an 8 hour battery life beats an extra 19 millimetres of screen, but thats just me. Choice is a wonderfull thing.

aspect ratio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210409)

You do realise that a lot of good TV is in a 4:3 aspect, right? Looking at my DVD collection I have 50% TV at 4:3 and the rest is movies - all widescreen but not all in 16:9. And the movies have a pan-scan option which is probably better for a low-res rip anyway, since it tends to be in close-up on the action (not that I know how to do a pan-scan to divx rip).

Re:Linux games? (1)

KillShill (877105) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210425)

you do realize, not wanting to buy DRM crap is better for the customer, right?

having control over your own hardware, oh my! what a disgusting concept.

Re:Linux games? (1)

xigxag (167441) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210586)

As a sibling post mentions, the screen is too small. QVGA is so 2002. Even Palm does better than that now. This thing needs to be full VGA 640x480 to gain any real traction in the market.

Dear editors (5, Insightful)

nekoes (613370) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210079)

I've noticed a trend in recent stories upon slashdot.

It's becoming popular to link to a seperate site that the user has to click through in order to get to the site the post mentions. For example this post here doesn't even mention who or what makes the device, only that linux devices is running a profile on it. In order to get any information about the device, the user must go to linux devices and use a link they provide. This could have been avoided by hotlinking GPX with the manufacturer's page.

While this is relatively minor compared to Friday's post (http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/29 /2121223 [slashdot.org] ) where the write up on slashdot only links to Joystiq's site, where the actual content (what the post was about) was hosted on entirely different servers. It would have been okay to link the source Joystiq, but linking the content is necessary so I don't have to jump through hoops to see what the news post is actually about.

Thanks a lot,
-a slashdot user

Re:Dear editors (1)

agent dero (680753) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210228)

Meet slashvertising :/

Best feature ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210181)

the GPX2-F100 is powered by two AA batteries

Whoever has played enough with palmtops and handhelds knows that their main weakness are those darn pricey li-ion batteries and their fskcing fast chargers that destroy them in no time.
AA batteries will allow people to find them everywhere, charge them slowly without damaging them and replace them at the end of their (much longer) life for a couple bucks, and who cares if that means a 150gr weight increase.

Palm?? (1)

chudgoo (812186) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210184)

I'm sure the submitter noted that this devices lacks a touch screen.

(BTW, I loved the first GamePark32 but this updated model doesn't offer much more than the first.
Where is the wireless? Where is the Microdrive support? Where is rechargable battery?

In regards to emulation, aside from having much more RAM, what does the GPX2 offer that the PSP doesn't?)

Re:Palm?? (1)

LewieP (883971) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210289)

you pretty much answered it yourself, more ram. Snes and Genesis games will be full speed, and playstation emulation is possible i think (ridge racer has been successfully emulation on an overclocked GP32, ok, at 12fps, but that was with alot less ram)

Re:Palm?? (1)

miscz (888242) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210624)

Producer won't screw you with firmware updates that make using homebrew stuff more difficult.

Linux handhelds (1)

paulius_g (808556) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210317)

This is a pretty nice news for the Linux community to know that another gadget has chosen Linux as their base system and kernel for the embedded device.

But, I think that Linux handheld manufacturers should take the next step: make it easy to access Linux.

That's right! Why not another section in the manual that could tell how to access the shell? The manufacturers could gain even more people (geeks) to buy the product because no moding would be needed to access the Linux under the whole interface.

Oh, come on, we need companies to urge to do so. It would be a gain to them and to the community.

Re:Linux handhelds (1)

IntergalacticWalrus (720648) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210539)

It won't have a keyboard. A shell without a keyboard is not too cool. But it will be an entirely open platform, so don't worry about not having access.

I usually like white gadgets but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210347)

I always tought he GPX2 looked A LOT uglier than it's predecessor (The GP32), but I changed my mind after I saw a picture of the black version [gpx2.com] .

Very (1)

jav1231 (539129) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210394)

The question isn't how hard it will be to get GPE or Opie loaded on it. The question is how hard will it be to even GET one. It's a two-parter: a) it's going to be priced out of the market as usual and b) it will....(wait for it) only be available in Asia! These stories make me giddy with excitement! Like going to a car show and looking at concept cars. Aren't they cool? Oh, you'll never get one.

Re:Very (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210458)

Got an internet connection? (obvious)
Got a debit card with at least 180 USD?

You can get one quite easily.

Re:Very (1)

jav1231 (539129) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210622)

I think that was the previous generation. From the article: "Gamepark's website offers no indication of when the GPX2-F100 might become available." OTOH, I'm shocked they are touting it for around $200. That's odd for Linux devices. My big complaint has always been that when a company puts Linux inside, the price goes up. That and the fact they never have widespread availability.

Re:Very (1)

miscz (888242) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210640)

Lik Sang [lik-sang.com] will come to the rescue.

CPU speed? (1)

Megane (129182) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210440)

I got a link to this yesterday, and my main question was what the CPU speed was. It would be nice to have full-speed SNES emulation, which the 200MHz Dreamcast is not quite capable of. If it takes throwing part of the emulator (like the sound emulation) onto the other CPU, then great, as long as someone does it.

Re:CPU speed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13210475)

its multi core 200mhz, 2*arm9 200mhz, dreamcast only had 1 :)
also snes runs allready pretty well on 166mhz on the gp32, its definality possible to get it running fast on this.

PSP Movies (2, Insightful)

DavidD_CA (750156) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210578)

I realize this is a bit off-topic, but today I was at Target and saw them selling a PSP version of the movie Kill Bill 2.

Thing is, it was selling for $29.99.

Did their market research really show them that people would be willing to pay thirty bucks for that? Will those things even play in normal DVD players?

Even at Amazon, I see PSP movies priced at $20 and up. What's the logic here?

Under 200$ USD? (1)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210580)

And it plays 720x480 at 30fps, Divx, etc?

And let's not forget: 14 hours of battery life with music playback, 8 with movies.

Seriously, if you were thinking about buying a PSP, expensive UMD movies (or clippled movie playback on Sony Pro Duo memory sticks), hacked emulators, and the 5-hour battery life, I think it's obvious that this is a much better choice. Not only does it lack a design that's likely to throw UMDs like Ninja stars, not only does it have great battery life, dual CPUs, and Linux, it also reads normal, sane SD cards.

The only thing that'd come close to this thing would be the rumoured video iPod, but this looks like it'll handled the wide-screen anime subs I watch better than the current iPod form factor.

Close, but no cigar (1, Interesting)

Bodhammer (559311) | more than 9 years ago | (#13210651)

I almost bought a PSP this weekend after reading that Sony had released firmware with a browser. What stopped me was the price of 1GB memory stick at > $100. There is no way I will pay that when 1GB memory keys, CF, and SD exist at 1/2 that price.

This device is close except for the screen size and what sounds like a proprietary wireless setup. Why are they not using 802.11?

Oh well, I will keep looking and waiting...

Load More Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?