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Review of Apple's "Mighty Mouse"

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the still-waiting-for-mine-to-ship dept.

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hanser writes "Ars Technica is running an in-depth review of the new Apple "Mighty Mouse." From the review: "As it turns out, Apple blew the description of its "aural feedback" and "touch sensitivity" out of proportion and led most of us to believe that 1) there was some sort of speaker built into the mouse with synthetic mouse sounds coming out of it, and 2) the shell might be solid-state touch-sensitive like our beloved iPod wheels.""

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Hey slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229524)

Fix the fucking comment moderation. Some of us paid money for this shit, and your service blows goats.

Re:Hey slashdot (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229581)

what kind of dickhead pays for slashdot. its geeky enough to register, let alone pay money, so what, you get news for nerds sooner and that somehow makes you cooler then those that haven't paid...dork!

Re:Hey slashdot (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229695)

Um, no you bloody moron. You can get to the articles before they're slashdotted and not have to use mirrordot.

You can also help to fund a community that fosters intelligent discourse. But I'm pretty sure at this point my words are starting to all mash together in to a big ball of unintelligible mush as they hit your cortex...

Re:Hey slashdot (0, Offtopic)

badfish99 (826052) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229735)

Intelligent discourse? Are you sure?

Re:Hey slashdot (1)

mholt108 (229701) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229795)

Some of us paid money for this shit

Why?

Well... (0, Troll)

Phidoux (705500) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229526)

A Mac that uses a mouse that has more than one button would be a good start.

Re:Well... (1)

CatherineOmega (863951) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229553)

Where have you been? OSX has always supported multi-button mice.

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229745)

With a 6000$ machine, don't you think one could expect a real mouse?

And what are you bleating about OS X? The GP talked about Macs.

Re:Well... (5, Interesting)

bigman2003 (671309) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229827)

A couple of years ago, I bought my wife a wireless Microsoft Intellimouse for her Mac (OS 9, since upgraded to X).

Prior to her getting that on the computer, I (windows user) would go crazy with the lack of 'right-click' whenever I used her computer. She had no idea what I was talking about whenever I would start cursing and cussing, complaining, "god-damn stupid one-button mouse! I don't want to hold down the ctrl key!" (She was still using the hockey puck at the time)

Now it is great to hear her do the same thing whenever she gets on someone elses Mac. She starts complaining about how stupid it is, and where the heck is the right-button, who thought of this stupid system, and why don't they add another button...etc. etc..

And all the while, the other person (who owns the computer with a single button mouse) sits there wondering what the heck my wife is talking about.

Long story short...why the hell did it take them so long?

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229561)

You mean like every mac since system 7?

Mac OS 8 supported multiple buttons (1, Redundant)

green pizza (159161) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229636)

Way back in the System 7 days I had a Kensington Thinking Mouse (4 buttons) connected to my Mac via AppleDesktopBus. The additional 3 buttons were programmed through a control panel installed along with the Kensington drivers.

In the Mac OS 8 days I had a two button mouse, Mac OS 8 had full and proper support for contextual menus (right-click or control-click, they do the same thing).

So did Mac OS 9...
So does Mac OS X...

During the public beta of Mac OS X, I was able to plug in a Microsoft Optical Scroll Mouse and use both the right button and the scroll wheel without having to do any installation or configuration. Ditto for Logitch mice. This worked just as well with Mac OS X 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, and now with 10.4.

Re:Mac OS 8 supported multiple buttons (0, Offtopic)

FLAGGR (800770) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229730)

Dude, calm down. He was joking. I admit I can be an apple fanboy sometimes, but my god enough with the "macs have had right click for the last decade!!11" comments. Yes, everyone knows. No, no one cares and trolls will still troll. The machines still come with one button mice. Honestly, the poster was being a troll, don't feed him.

Re:Mac OS 8 supported multiple buttons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229798)

This worked just as well with Mac OS X 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, and now with 10.4.

It is NOT true however for 10.4.3. Reports say that the only supported multibutton mouse will be the Apple "Mighty Mouse". Support for other mice have been dropped.

Re:Well... (1)

PlancksCnst (877593) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229751)

A Mac user that uses a mouse that has more than one button would be a good start.

tap tap is this thing on? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229527)

Is there something wrong with the moderation? There are hardly any +3 or higher comments on most of the stories in the past day.

Re:tap tap is this thing on? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229556)

Is there something wrong with the moderation? There are hardly any +3 or higher comments on most of the stories in the past day.

WRONG? Sounds like it finally started working properly.

Re:tap tap is this thing on? (0)

cozzano (666947) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229768)

Argh - My brain tells me that was funny. But I need slashdot to tell me if it actually was. Please fix it soon.

Re:tap tap is this thing on? (0)

Greatmoose (896405) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229830)

Must use...own brain stem....argggh!...wait....it IS funny! Tears of joy! I no longer need your "post score"! I am FREE!!!!

Houston, we have a problem (-1, Redundant)

MirrororriM (801308) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229529)

Dupe...and 12 minutes before the next article was posted. Me thinks someone hit the "Submit" button a bit prematurely.

Re:Houston, we have a problem (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Conrad (600139) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229675)

Dupe...and 12 minutes before the next article was posted.

Dupe of what?

The last article (as linked in this one's summary, BTW!) was an announcement. This is a review.

(your sig:
Content Management System: A pretentious way of saying "text editor."
"multi-document text editor with concurrent user support, version control and access control" you mean.)

Well, that stinks (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229548)

I was hoping to rub the Mighty Mouse in my crotch and have the touch-sensitive pad realize it and then the speaker would moan, "oooh baby." But I guess it isn't meant to be. I'll have to continue using a cheese grater until something better comes out, maybe I can paint it white.

Re:Well, that stinks (-1, Offtopic)

mrselfdestrukt (149193) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229605)

Methinks that man who rubs crotch with cheese grater will do the moaning.
 

Blew it out of proportion? (1)

illtron (722358) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229551)

It's all standard marketing language. What are the chances that a company could ever possibly do something like that? The mere thought sends shivers down my spine!

Seriously though, what did you expect? Apple will wise up and drop the price on this thing by October, and hopefully have a Bluetooth version by then too. Apple claims to be a big supporter of Bluetooth with decent support in the OS, but this overpriced rodent does nothing to prove it.

I'm a fanboy, but I'll call a spade a spade. And this thing is a really overpriced spade.

But the thought that a company could possibly overstate the capabilities and features of a product! Holy shit they totally blew it out of proportion! It's actually a much smaller proportion than they claimed it is!

I feel so violated!

Re:Blew it out of proportion? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229604)

I don't know about blown out of proportion. I bought mine just a few hours ago and the top sure feels solid state. It clicks when it's plugged in & turned on, and the ball has a little slight feedback 'noise' feel about it, but as soon as it's unplugged from the mac it's clear the top shell doesn't move or make a sound at all, and the ball just rolls around noiselessly.

The noise coming from it is all from a piezo speaker, it's just done so well it *sounds* like a real mouse.

Why they did that, I do not know, but the sound is there.

Re:Blew it out of proportion? (2)

johnpaul191 (240105) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229641)

maybe some people don't want bluetooth. for my desktop machine i have no problem with a wire. i would rather deal with that than needlessly waste batteries.

i am sure there will be a BT model coming, and that will be nice for laptop users.

Re:Blew it out of proportion? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229757)

i would rather deal with that than needlessly waste batteries.

I've heard of these batteries that allow the user to recharge them. I have a Logitech wireless mouse that has a dock that recharges the mouse.

Re:Blew it out of proportion? (1)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229856)

Prepare to throw the batteries away in 3 years: this is a lot more wasteful than a corded mouse.
Also, the batteries make the mouse a lot heavier, increasing hand/wrist strain. And it's YA device you'll have to remember to put in a cradle, rather than leaving it wherever.
And then there's BT connection problems.

Re:Blew it out of proportion? (1)

archdetector (876357) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229840)

I don't have one yet, so discount this as necessary - but I suspect that the mouse does use touch sensitivity, just not as we expect. I'm guessing that there is only one mechanical clicking bit in the mouse, but that the computer senses which finger is pushing harder via the touch pads and translates the click as left of right accordingly. Also, apple doesn't say that the mouse has a speaker, they just say that it provides subtle aural feedback.

beloved ipod wheels????? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229557)

The Apple trademarked nipple interface sucks. I much prefer a d-pad to interact with my music players.

Re:beloved ipod wheels????? (-1, Offtopic)

mrselfdestrukt (149193) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229617)

hhhhhhmmmmmmm nipple..... whghghwaaaagaahgwaa. *drool*

Slashdot's moderation system is broken (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229564)

Could someone perhaps fix it?

Bluetooth... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229572)

Seems a little silly that he's complaining that there's no bluetooth.

It was never advertised as a 'wireless' mouse.

Why would a none-wireless mouse have bluetooth?

Re:Bluetooth... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229579)

Seems a little silly that he's complaining that there's no bluetooth.

Yeah, this may be few-to-no girls slashdot and all, but the reviewer's called Jacqui.

Re:Bluetooth... (-1, Offtopic)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229718)

Yeah, this may be few-to-no girls slashdot and all, but the reviewer's called Jacqui.

Jacqui sounds like a hairdresser's name. No offense intended, but it does.

I bet she went to the careers officer at school, and he started rifling through her notes.

"Hmm.... it says here you've got straight A*s in Maths, Physics, English, Russian, Serbo-Croat, Computing and Woodworking. And that you're a major pop star in Eastern Europe and have built your own 4-qbit quantum computer at home using parts from a recovered Apple II computer.

Looks like you have the world ahead of you, uh....."

(Checks front of file for the girl's name)

"'Jacqueline'?! Well, that solves all our problems; you're going to be a hairdresser.... no, stop complaining. It's the law anyway. I'll arrange for you to leave school tommorow and start working in the 'Curlz-n'-Sizzers' salon just up the road.... no, I *don't* care if you're 8 years old. You're a Jacqui, and there's no point staying in school when you could be out hairdressing."

Re:Bluetooth... (1)

ejacqui (462442) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229852)

Shit, I knew I'd missed my main calling in life. All this time I thought I was supposed to be a software engineer, but I'm really supposed to be a hairdresser! ;)

Re:Bluetooth... (1)

FLAGGR (800770) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229585)

Their other mice have bluetooth, and I don't want to replace my bluetooth mouse with a wired one, which is 50$, when theres a possibility of a bluetooth one coming out soon . (I want one sooooooooooo bad...)

Re:Bluetooth... (1)

ceeam (39911) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229732)

BT/radio mice require batteries, though. And you don't want your mouse to run out of charge when gaming online or when working on a crunch.

Re:Bluetooth... (1)

FLAGGR (800770) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229807)

That's why Apple invented the battery meter, and spare rechargable batteries. *Innovation!*

Hehe, and gaming, on a mac? (Although I guess the mouse is Windows compatible, it would just look out of place with a Dell keyboard..)

slow down apple! (2, Funny)

frostilicus2 (889524) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229575)

I'm still acclimatizing to x86, next you'll be telling me that all macs will ship with windows.

Here I come to save the day! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229576)

means that Mighty Mouse is on his way...
for only $49.99 plus tax

Does the cape ever get caught on the mouse pad?

DPI? (1)

tesseract5d (871694) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229577)

Anyone found what the resolution of the sensor is on this thing? I've looked everywhere and no one seems to know...

Probably 800 DPI (1)

green pizza (159161) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229740)

99% of optical mice use the HP/Aglient sensors, in fact they just recently announced [agilent.com] having shipped 400 Million of those bad boys!

The sensors come in several flavors (mini, low power for cordless, high resolution, etc) but they basiclly boil down to four categories:

400 DPI - the very first batch of optical mice
800 DPI - second generation of optical mice (most popular)
1600 DPI - "high performance" models (expensive gamer mice)
Laser - newest generation (currently used in the Logitech MX 1000 at 800 DPI)

Re:Probably 800 DPI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229803)

That's about the longest "I don't know" I've heard from anyone who isn't a politician.

a couple good new ideas (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229586)

Hey it's something :) I'd rather smoke crack than actually buy a mac, but other than that, way to go :)

Re:a couple good new ideas (1)

mrselfdestrukt (149193) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229685)

Well, I'd rather smoke weed than get up in the morning, but even I want a Mac.
They are different and cool.

Lemmings, get in line (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229741)

Well, I'd rather smoke weed than get up in the morning, but even I want a Mac.
They are different and cool.


But you are neither different nor cool.

Get a grip people, it's only a mouse (0, Offtopic)

Knome_fan (898727) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229587)

Seriously, do we really need further discussions of this topic?

So Apple released a mouse that imho looks pretty stylish and tries to introduce some new concepts.

Fine and interesting, but I really fail to see why no 24 hours after a story about the new mouse, that generated more than 1400 comments (for a mouse people...), we need the next story about this very mouse.

Well, if anything this shows that
a) a lot of us here should really get a life if we get all worked up about a mouse
b) Apple really are marketing geniuses.

Btw., this really reminds me off:
http://blog.thomasnesges.de/uploads/iProduct.png [thomasnesges.de]

Re:Get a grip people, it's only a mouse (1)

drsmithy (35869) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229794)

So Apple released a mouse that imho looks pretty stylish and tries to introduce some new concepts.

There are no "new concepts" here, merely a different implementation of (long-) existing concepts.

Re:Get a grip people, it's only a mouse (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229826)

a) a lot of us here should really get a life if we get all worked up about a mouse

It's the little things in life that keep us going by amusing us.

Re:Get a grip people, it's only a mouse (1)

sud_crow (697708) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229846)

Damn!! 1400??? Well, then im not that amazed it has a secuel, like in movies... if they sell a lot of tickets, you already know a secuel is coming!
If the first news about it was such a success, then this shouldnt surprise you. About your options, i take the two.

you must be new here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229853)

I really fail to see why no 24 hours after a story about the new mouse, that generated more than 1400 comments...we need the next story about this very mouse.

Maybe I just have my tinfoil hat on, but all these hits and all these comments leads to more ad revenue. That is why you're seeing more and more dupes of high-comment posts and you're seeing more and more links with referral IDs.

You can expect another.

-AC

Innovative? (2, Insightful)

skatephat420 (803185) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229590)

Apple, possibly the most innovative computer company on the planet. Yet, the multi-buttoned mouse is 10 years too late and its not even wireless. Whats up with that?

Re:Innovative? (1)

saintp (595331) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229595)

10 years? You didn't get a multi-buttoned mouse until 1995? Try 20+ years too late.

Re:Innovative? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229832)

Are you seriously saying you had a mouse in 1985? Unless you were using an early Mac, it's not bloody likley.

Correction... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229612)

Apple, possibly the most innovative computer marketing company on the planet

Good Point. Apple should have... (1)

green pizza (159161) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229693)

OK, it's January 2005 and you've been appointed CEO of Apple. Apple is still selling computers with 1 button mice even though they have supported multiple buttons in the OS since Mac OS 8 (and via third party drivers since System 6). To make matters worse, Final Cut Pro, DVD Studio Pro, Logic, and Shake all work best with three mouse buttons!

So, CEO, what do you do?

A) Appologize to the public on national TV, shutdown and liquidate the company.

B) Keep selling only one-button mice forever.

C) Replace the Apple one-button mouse with a Microsoft Optical Scroll Mouse.

D) Replace the Apple one-button mouse with a Logitch MX series mouse.

E) Sell an over-engineered $49 three button + 2D scroll mouse (MightyMouse).

F) Go for simplicty and sell a $29 two button + 1D scroll wheel mouse (the kind you can buy online for $3.99).

G) ______type_your_own_solution_here______

Re:Good Point. Apple should have... (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229774)

"G) ______type_your_own_solution_here______"

Actually, Apple's solution before yesterday was to offer EIGHTEEN different mice (or is it mouses? ) from other manufacturers at www.apple.com/store. Plus two Apple single button mice, and now one Apple multi-button mouse.

You could always USE a multi-button mouse with a Macintosh. You could always BUY a multi-button mouse from Apple. The only difference now is that you can buy an Apple-labeled multi-button mouse.

Re:Good Point. Apple should have... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229836)

G) Sell an over-engineered $149 ten button + 3D scroll mouse. Then no one can complain about too few mouse buttons any more. :-)

Re:Innovative? (0)

50m31sl4sh. (854939) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229694)

No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.

FD (-1, Offtopic)

Wubby (56755) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229613)

First Dupe... I mean POST... Oh Damn!

Not for Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229619)

OS X, W2K and XP are the only listed compatible platforms.

Is Apple playing the Microsoft game by trying to cut competition out of the market?

Re:Not for Linux? (1)

spectral (158121) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229706)

you mean.. just like how their monitors list only Apple computers as 'compatible'? It'll probably work in linux. If not, then it's a driver issue because of the fact that it's not a regular mouse (from what I can tell).

My Review (I got one yesterday...) (1)

nuxx (10153) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229620)

For my initial impressions about this mouse, check out my LiveJournal post discussing it here [livejournal.com] . In short, I rather like the mouse, although since I was using it in a near-silent house last night, I noticed that it makes a sort of squeaking sound sometimes. I think this is plastic rubbing in it somewhere...

Oh, the speaker... It exists... (2, Informative)

nuxx (10153) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229639)

Also, I forgot to mention that the mouse very much does have a speaker built into it, but the only sound I've heard it make is a clicking as you spin the scroll ball. It's almost like the iPod scrolling sound, but a lot quieter. It's impossible to hear in a normal, noisy office, and in a quiet room it's easy to mistake it for the standard ratcheting sound made by the wheel in almost all other scrolling-type mice. The ARS Technica article seems to have overlooked or simply not noticed this.

Did he even look at the apple website? (0, Redundant)

ChicagoMac (904772) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229632)

If the author of this review had even bothered to read the information on the Apple website, he would have found that there are no sounds associated with the mouse. It is also obvious by simply looking at the mouse that it is not "solid-state touch-sensitive like our beloved iPod wheels." Also, one of the small features I love about Macintosh is the ability to plug your mouse into the keyboard, therefore getting rid of the need for a long mouse cord. Sounds like a guy who doesn't work on a Mac very often.

Re:Did he even look at the apple website? (2, Informative)

sootman (158191) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229667)

If the author of this review had even bothered to read the information on the Apple website, he would have found that there are no sounds associated with the mouse.

Then what, pray tell, is the meaning behind this [apple.com] ?

Now Hear This
Mighty Mouse even sounds as good as it feels. The audio feedback built into Mighty Mouse provides an aural sensation that responds to your movements. When you scroll or click, Mighty Mouse produces subtle sound effects based on your actions.

Did you look at the Apple website? (2, Informative)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229680)

If the author of this review had even bothered to read the information on the Apple website, he would have found that there are no sounds associated with the mouse.

From the Apple website: "Mighty Mouse even sounds as good as it feels. The audio feedback built into Mighty Mouse provides an aural sensation that responds to your movements."
It is also obvious by simply looking at the mouse that it is not "solid-state touch-sensitive like our beloved iPod wheels."

From the Apple website: "Thanks to a smooth top shell with touch-sensitive technology beneath, Mighty Mouse allows you to right click without a right button. Capacitive sensors under Mighty Mouse's seamless top shell detect where your fingers are and predict your clicking intentions."

Also, one of the small features I love about Macintosh is the ability to plug your mouse into the keyboard, therefore getting rid of the need for a long mouse cord. Sounds like a guy who doesn't work on a Mac very often.

Um, what's your point? He didn't say this was a problem, he just noted it as one of the features of the mouse and that this was typical of Apple mice.

Sheesh.

Re:Did he even look at the apple website? (1)

Bedouin X (254404) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229701)

When all is said and done, all of the the Apple PR on the Mighty Mouse product page is a bit much.

He did at least read part of the site... ... and apparently he found no surprises.

Re:Did he even look at the apple website? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229812)

Hmmm, there doesn't seem to be a USB port on my apple wireless keyboard.

I really wish there was a bluetooth version of this mouse. I have yet to find a bluetooth mouse that doesn't suck in some aspect.

Apple marketing (1)

ChrisF79 (829953) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229654)

You have to give the folks in Apple's marketing department a lot of credit. They do a fantastic job of releasing "good" hardware and capturing the attention of the mainstream. Springing products on the market in their secretive fashion creates the effect a previous poster pointed out where we suddenly have 1400 comments in slashdot about the post.

I haven't used one of these mice, nor have I even seen one. But the fact is, Apple has generated a ton of response for a simple $50 peripheral. When any other company releases a mouse, we might hear about it but likely not. This thing has everyone talking.

Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (3, Informative)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229673)

The "innovative" virtual button design is great for letting people use it as a single-button or multi-button mouse, but the consequence is that it doesn't do everything a normal multi-button mouse can do. Namely, it can't click both the left and right button at the same time, and register them as a (left+right) click. Instead, (according to the review) it just gets registered as a left click. Additionally, people who rest their fingers on the mouse buttons are going to be annoyed, because they have to lift their index finger in order to right-click.

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (-1, Troll)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229711)

Well, that is your guess, based on your interpretation of behavior observed using drivers that don't support this. Why don't you fucking wait until someone tries it out?

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229755)

Oddly enough, it turns out I'm right. Here's an excerpt of a review [livejournal.com] from somebody who actually bought one:
Now, the feel of the mouse. The mouse maintains the idea where the entire body rocks downward to click. And yes, the mouse still makes a resounding CLICK sound when clicked. There are proximity sensors under each side of the tip of the mouse. If your finger is over the left side when you click, you get a left click. Right side works the same way. If you have a finger over each side and click you just get a left click. As I personally tend to use my left and middle fingers for clicking, this will take some getting used to, but it's not a big deal.
I admit, the "it's not a big deal" bit is reassuring, though...

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (0, Troll)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229838)

Boy are you thick. Again, based on the drivers that come with the mouse. Show me a review where the mouse is used with drivers that can even recognize a two-button chord.

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (1)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229717)

In short, it's not as user-friendly as the Logitech MX5xx series or Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer mouse pointers, both of which are supported by MacOS X versions easily.

I use an MX500 mouse pointer myself and love its very comfortable feel in my right hand and the programmable functionality the MX500 provides. It's probably far more comfortable in the hands of most users than the new Apple mouse pointer.

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229781)

Yeah, I love my (Bluetooth) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer; I think I would prefer it to this new Apple mouse even though it doesn't do horizontal scrolling, because it's shaped to fit my hand better and it's got two thumb buttons instead of "squeeze tabs."

The problem with the Intellimouse, however, is that I can't use it with my iBook because it doesn't have an on/off switch -- if I tried to take it somewhere the batteries would run down as it shifts in the bag. If the Bluetooth version of this Apple mouse (which I assume to be forthcoming) has a switch, I'll get one to use away from home.

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (1)

wagemonkey (595840) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229850)

Don't forget Logitech's MX1000 Laser, it is quite wonderful (ok, wonderful for a mouse).
Very comfortable (yes I am right-handed), responsive, rechargeable and with an off-switch so I can put it in a bag wthout running the battery down.

Highly recommended.

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229729)

Additionally, people who rest their fingers on the mouse buttons are going to be annoyed, because they have to lift their index finger in order to right-click.
I rest my fingers on thhe mouse buttons, but I naturally lift my left index finger when I right click. I'm not sure why, but I have to consciously leave my left index finger down in order to do so. I imagine that I'm not the only person like that. So it wouldn't bother me any ...

Pros don't use Apple mice anyway (1)

green pizza (159161) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229760)

Tour just about any graphic design studio or video shop and you'll find that most of of the Mac users have third party mice with all sorts of funky ergonomic shapes and button configurations. Just because Apple ships a mouse with the PowerMac G5, iMac, and eMac doesn't mean you're forced to use it. Even a $1.99 USB mouse from OfficeMax will work just fine.

Re:Pros don't use Apple mice anyway (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229816)

Yes, I am aware. I use a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer with all my computers (and a bluetooth one with my iMac).

Re:Not as versatile as a normal multi-button mouse (1)

CaymanIslandCarpedie (868408) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229804)

My question about this mouse is if Apple wanted to avoid two button mice because it was to confusing for "grandma", why when they finally do release a two button mouse where are there not two buttons?

I mean, sure for someone used to two mouse buttons its not hard to figure out, but for those who don't this seems much more confusing than actually having two buttons. I cannot even imagine try to to explain to my grandmother how to "right-click" without her being able to SEE the right button.

Why cannot they just say they like the one button mouse because they think it looks cooler and be done with it? If simplicity for new users was the reason, then this mouse seems a HUGE step back in intutitive two button mouse design.

No speaker Ars? Clean out the wax... (1)

blakespot (213991) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229705)

From this review:

http://detroitmac.com/index.php?content=mightymous e [detroitmac.com]


"Audio Feedback:
Apple points out on their website that the mouse features a built in speaker to provide audio feedback. This speaker is used when using the scroll ball and the side button. The click noise for the side buttons is perfect. Not too loud, yet not too quite. The scrollball on the other hand is too loud for my liking. It makes a click noise similar to a typical scroll wheel, but it clicked too much. The mouse preference pane does not allow you to adjust the volume or mute this feature. I never thought I would say this, but can we get a volume control for our mice?!?
"
...so what's ArsTechnica talking about with the no speaker business? Broken MightyMouse??


blakespot

It's like they are ashamed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229719)

I thought Apple had finally swallowed their pride and submitted to making a 2 button mouse, something they _seemed_ to be against.

But no, they hardly did, by hiding it all inside it so its still a shiny white jellybean from the outside.

nice try guys, perhaps next time :P

NeXT had two buttons! (1)

green pizza (159161) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229815)

I thought Apple had finally swallowed their pride and submitted to making a 2 button mouse, something they _seemed_ to be against.

From what I understand, Steve Jobs calls the shots at Apple and has the final say on everything. I also understand that this was the way things were at his previous company, NeXT. When he set out to create the "perfect" computer (the NeXT Cube and NeXTstation) his mice had two buttons

The mouse can be seen here:
http://www.allaboutapple.com/personali/alberto_cro sio.htm [allaboutapple.com]

The later, puck-with-buttons mouse can be seen here:
http://www.simski.org/next/hardware/pictures/hardw are/NextMouseAdb.jpg [simski.org]

The earlier, rectangular, mouse was my favorite. Both it and the keyboard were surrounded by a rubber bumper to minimize any sound that could be made if an office worker were to bump their mouse into their keyboard.

Used it - it's fine. Relax. (1)

jpellino (202698) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229724)

(bridging from the original item yesterday that had people in spasms proclaiming how bad it would be when they actually used it - because apparently according to them Apple must have designed, built, manufactured, whipped and sold this without trying to use it...)

It acts like a typical Apple mouse for feel and clicking, it is tactile and the right/left thing is not at all like a track/tap pad. It's like having two buttons. The center button takes some getting used to to just move it and not click it, the squeeze buttons are cool, dunno what I'd assign to them yet.

The local Apple store sold out of the 12 they got immediately.

Tried one: "Unibody" shell feels flimsy (1)

AHumbleOpinion (546848) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229858)

I just tried one. It feels and sounds as if it has two very conventional clicky switches and as far as left/right buttons go it feels completely natural. It has a flexible "unibody" shell that lets you press one switch and not the other. Unfortunately it also gives the mouse a flimsy feel. A $20 Microsoft or Logitech mouse feels better, and can't these be configured so that all buttons are left clicks? The scoll wheel is something you have to try, some will like it, some will hate it. It seems to take more strokes than a conventional wheel. It may have a rougher granularity but I'm not sure, I need more time on it. As far as aesthetics goes it can't be beat, it definitely matches the keyboard. This mouse is something you have to try before you buy.

Apple blow something out of proportion? (0)

killeena (794394) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229728)

Who would have thought?

Sticking with a Microsoft IntelliMouse (1)

cmstar (521171) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229758)

I'll be the first to admit to be being an apple fanboy.

And I'm a true believer in having form AND function. However, this mouse is underwelming. Sure, it looks cool. But why do I have to 'squeeze' the sides? C'mon Apple. Give me some actual configurable buttons. Instead of 'Mighty Mouse', this looks more like "hey we finally woke up and realized everyone had two buttons, so we're playing catchup" mouse.

And no matter how cool the little 'revolutionary' trackball is, or how sexy it looks. I'm not going to spend $50 on ANY mouse.

in short (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229773)

except for the cool scroll wheel that feels/acts as a track-ball, this is a normal 4 button mouse.

oh well, so much for 1 button is better argument.

Sticky Fingers (1)

el_womble (779715) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229783)

Sorry to admit this in public, but... I... have sweaty palms. OK I said it. Now these white mice are all very well and good for normal people but to me they are like an advertisement to that fact. I have a G5 and the mouse that came with that is constantly filthy.

The other problem I have is with this scroll wheel. I love the concept. 360 degree scrolling is a great idea, but didn't we get rid of balls from mice for a good reason? I mean, how many time a week will it be necessary to clean the scroll ball... if indeed you can? Its not really an issue with scroll wheels because you are directly manipulating the wheel, but on ball mice you were relying on the friction between ball and wheel - which dirt and grime gummed up.

Did the clever bods at Apple think about this in advance and use one of those fancy optical balls?

The other issue is the short cable. My G5 has bluetooth. Apple's bluetooth keyboard is a delight, but it, obviously, doesn't come with a USB hub built in. So where am I supposed to plug the mighty mouse in? If the the cable on the traditional Apple mouse is anything to go by its not long enough to be useful if connected to the rear of the G5. So will I be forced to use a bulky extension cable on a premium mouse - should I decide to buy one?

Re:Sticky Fingers (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229847)

Sorry to admit this in public, but... I... have sweaty palms.
You probably want something like this mouse [nyko.com] then.
The other issue is the short cable. My G5 has bluetooth. Apple's bluetooth keyboard is a delight, but it, obviously, doesn't come with a USB hub built in. So where am I supposed to plug the mighty mouse in? If the the cable on the traditional Apple mouse is anything to go by its not long enough to be useful if connected to the rear of the G5. So will I be forced to use a bulky extension cable on a premium mouse - should I decide to buy one?
I can't imagine them not making a bluetooth version really soon.

First Dupe? Nope (0, Offtopic)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229797)

You know I saw this and was like "I caught my first dupe ever." I read /. often enough, but I have never actually seen (w/o someone pointing it out) an article that was a dupe of another article I read.

I was so excited, and then CmdrTaco let me down :( Oh well. Anyhow, how many times do we have to talk about this thing?

OMG! Not a 10/10 review! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229806)

The reality distortion field is down!
Commence attack on the death star main reactor!

Other reviews, 1 vs 2 buttons (1)

Deslock (86955) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229810)

All this hype is a bit overkill for a mouse, but FYI... some other reviews listed at engadget:

I've recently switched to using OS X, and it'd be nice if Apple were to add an optional multi-button functionality to its laptops (beyond [ctrl][click], which requires two hands to be done comfortably). This program [ragingmenace.com] looks like a work-around, though I haven't tried it yet.

Personally, I never understood the big deal about one vs two buttons on the Mac. Apple has supported two buttons via any cheap 3rd party mouse for some time. While my 3-year-old has no problem using a two button mouse, my father in-law has never grasped the concept. I'm a sysadmin and some of the users I support get that deer-in-the-headlights look when I tell them to right-click (these are the same users that don't understand directory hierarchy... but thanks to things like Spotlight, they wont need me to find their files anymore).

So IMHO the one-button mouse is not as stupid and out-dated an idea as some seem to think. I wont be buying a Mighty Mouse, but Apple has provided an elegant solution that allows both power users and novices to work of the same computer.

So... (1)

Ours (596171) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229814)

So basically when MacMarketing says its "touch sensitive technology", they meen that springs make contact when you push the mouse down. Quite like every other mouse ever made. I guess they make it sound all fancy and new to justify the 50$ price tag.

This mouse is a design disaster (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13229819)

It looks horrible and isn't even wireless.

Guys I have to tell you something, by the time x86 macs are the norm, Macs wont look like Macs anyone they will look like PCs, with tacky hifi like cases. OS X will look and feel like Windows. No one seems to get where this is all going.

The innovation, design, functionality of Apple products is officially a thing of the past. That is all over now.

This is what is ahead:

Tacky, ugly 'DRM enhanced' PCs running Apple's version of Longhorn/Vista that cost 3-4 times as much as a Dell.

Short Cord (1)

shadowpuppy (629329) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229824)

Having a short cord makes sense if you plug it into the keyboard. I think thats what Apple intended. Then the short cord is a bonus since you don't have a bunch of extra cord to deal with.

One-line review (1)

Secret Agent 99 (855215) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229828)

No wireless. Fewer buttons than a Logitech. Lame.

Caption (1)

kc0re (739168) | more than 9 years ago | (#13229857)

Did you guys read the caption for the first picture? That is absolutely awful.
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