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Lik-Sang.com Taken to Court By Sony

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the lets-do-the-time-warp-again dept.

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Joe writes "As published on Lik-Sang's Website Sony has taken legal actions against Hong Kong's largest exporter of videogames and videogaming gear. One month before the official european launch and 9 months after the initial release of the PSP, this action looks very late at first sight. Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can permit the resale of the japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong no matter if on the local market or for export, it looks like this is planned to be one of the not the bright marketing ideas of the Sony HQ. The japanese PSP has the same Region Code for UMDs as the ones which will be sold in europe in september. Since the shipping at Lik-Sang is free, the console is even cheaper to import than to buy it locally."

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Cheaper? (4, Funny)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268605)

I'd comment but I need to go buy a PSP now

Re:Cheaper? (3, Interesting)

NiteHaqr (29663) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268654)

Already done, and from Lik-Sang a few months ago.

And its Firmware version 1.50.

Will probably get another one from them when the white ones come out - then I can still do my SNES/Genesis emulation, as well as coding my own stuff as well as having all the cool new features.

Its a pity really, as Sony would earn so much respect by allowing programmers to sign their own code - why cant they come up with a way of doing it that only works on files of say 200MB or less, thus allowinf homebrew, surely they could make it as a loader library, and have it flash up a "This Software is not made or checked by Sony, Use is at your own risk".

Re:Cheaper? (1)

kinzillah (662884) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268868)

Because they make their money on the software. The PSP costs them money.

Re:Cheaper? (1)

NiteHaqr (29663) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269055)

Which makes my point even more valid.

I will buy a second PSP that will cost them money because in order to play some of their newer games I will be forced to upgrade my firmware.

So either I cause them a loss by getting the second one - or cause them a bigger loss by not buying new games that require a firmware upgrade.

Allowing homebrew to run will not kill them, as what I am proposing would not allow dumped UMD images to run, only people's own code.

Re:Cheaper? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269129)

Which makes my point even more valid.


I will buy a second PSP that will cost them money because in order to play some of their newer games I will be forced to upgrade my firmware.

You will, everyone else won't.

Re:Cheaper? (2, Insightful)

(A)*(B)!0_- (888552) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269169)

"Allowing homebrew to run will not kill them, as what I am proposing would not allow dumped UMD images to run, only people's own code."
No, it wouldn't "kill" Sony. [Why are we using language like that to discuss this matter anyway?] Allowing homebrew software to run unsigned would add competition to the marketplace, which is something that developers for the PSP would not appreciate. Sony doesn't want homebrew games being released to keep developers happy and because it generates no income for them.

Re:Cheaper? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269149)

that makes zero sense, it is accurate, but it does not support them doing this.

Re:Cheaper? (1)

syntaxglitch (889367) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269211)

If you're referring to them not making profits on the PSP, that DOES make sense--if they take a per-unit loss to sell the systems for less, they're likely to sell MORE of the system, which will encourage more purchasing and more development for the system, and thus the licensing on the games makes them even more money than if they'd been selling the hardware at a better profit.

In an industry like console games, market share = profit.

Not that this really has much to do with the article--it seems that, if anything, anything that encourages more people to buy PSPs would be beneficial.

Re:Cheaper? (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268694)

Poster needs a grammar check... Or possibly an English lesson... It looks like the output of babelfish...

.. this action looks very late at first sight.

This action looks very late at first glance.

Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can permit the resale of the japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong no matter if on the local market or for export, it looks like this is planned to be one of the not the bright marketing ideas of the Sony HQ.

Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can prevent the resale of the japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong (on the local market or for export), it looks like this poor plan is one of the most bone-headed marketing ideas from Sony HQ.

Re:Cheaper? (1)

JamieKitson (757690) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269076)

I'd comment but after attempting to read the synopsis I don't have a clue what the story is about.

What do you mean RTFA. This is Slashdot.

Largest exporter of video games? (4, Funny)

Nuclear Elephant (700938) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268626)

Sony has taken legal actions against Hong Kong's largest exporter of videogames and videogaming gear

This guy? [slashdot.org]

Re:Largest exporter of video games? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268803)

Sometimes I wonder if slashdot users even understand english. Redundant? Have you ever taken the time to lookup the word in a dictionary?

Worst written summary EVAR (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268627)

Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can permit the resale of the japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong no matter if on the local market or for export, it looks like this is planned to be one of the not the bright marketing ideas of the Sony HQ.

Wow, this is bad even for Slashdot.

Region codes (4, Insightful)

confusion (14388) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268629)

Those region codes are SO convenient for consumers. I just LOVE travelling abroad and not being able to watch my dvds. I shouldn't be suprised that SONY would think to do this with UMD too. bah.

Jerry
http://www.cyvin.org/ [cyvin.org]

Re:Region codes (4, Interesting)

MyDixieWrecked (548719) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268658)

yeah, it sucks.

You can imagine my surprise when after reading all the crap about PSP games not being region encoded, then when UMD movies are finally available I can't play them.

I got my PSP the first week of January. Imported from japan. It's nice that the Japanese PSPs can play US games and vice versa, and not that I would buy them if I could, but it sucks that I can't watch US UMD movies on my japanese PSP.

Re:Region codes (1)

Willeh (768540) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268744)

Not to mention the whole idea of UMD is garbage anyway. I can't wait to rebuy "The Matrix" for the 5th time just so i can watch it on a tiny screen!

Re:Region codes (4, Insightful)

MyDixieWrecked (548719) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268857)

the idea behind UMD movies is pretty cool.

however, the implementation BLOWS.

a UMD movie has less features and less quality than a DVD... why does it cost at least as much as one? UMD movies should be free in boxes of cereal. They should come with games. they should come with DVDs. They should cost less than a pack of cigarettes (I live in NY, so a pack of cigarettes costs upwards of 7-8$).

Re:Region codes (2, Insightful)

Forzamilan (778203) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268668)

You are totally right, region codes sucks and are an obsolete technology from the 80s when nintendo used it on their NES. Why do we have to buy another movie in region 4 when i already have it in region 1?

Re:Region codes (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268798)

You are totally right, region codes sucks and are an obsolete technology from the 80s when nintendo used it on their NES.

Uh, what? They still perform a business function. How are they obsolete?

Why do we have to buy another movie in region 4 when i already have it in region 1?

Because different corporations own the rights to sell the movie in different parts of the world and the region code scheme enforces that. Look on your R1 DVD - it'll say "not for resale outside the US and Canada" or similar. If you are from the US and bought it legally there, you'll have an R1 player, right?

The world isn't a single global market - yet.

Re:Region codes (2, Insightful)

mad flyer (589291) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268973)

Yes sir, it says not for resale.

It don't forbid me to possess it and leave for another country.

They should enforce the selling part, not the viewing part.

By doing region coding they alienate the end user in order to try to conceal the sellers... As usual, customers are collateral damages...

Re:Region codes (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269595)

I don't think the law even permits prohibiting sales outside of a certain region. First sale doctrine and stuff. It might be arguable for the end user but the retailer certainly did NOT buy a license, they bought the packs they put on the shelves.

Re:Region codes (1)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269128)

Region coding isn't for enforcing resale rules. It is for fighting piracy. Because if it WAS for enforcing reselling rules, that would be price fixing, and it would be illegal.

And this lawsuit is more of the same illegal shit. Sony have no right to prevent Lik-Sang from reselling these. This trademark law argument is so weak. They're not selling knock offs, they're selling legally aquired PSPs with the manufacturing trademark on them.

What I don't understand is why so many dimbulbs on Slashdot stand up to defend the rights of corporations to engage in illegal price fixing.

Re:Region codes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269545)

Region coding isn't for enforcing resale rules. It is for fighting piracy.

Er, how, exactly? All the pirate DVDs I've ever seen were region-free. And all the pirate movies I've seen traded online were DivX or whatever, not actual DVD copies.

Maybe the idea is that Chinese pirates will have to wait for the Chinese release instead of being able to rip the US DVD? No, wait, that doesn't work either, because we have this thing called "international mail" that lets them buy US DVDs to rip.

So, uh, how the fuck does region coding have the slightest thing to do with piracy?

Re:Region codes (1)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269597)

It doesn't. That's how they sold it past the regulators when by rights it ought to land them in jail. I just forgot my tags.

Sony has officially gone bananas. (4, Interesting)

Willeh (768540) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268633)

Or some other type of fruit. First we have the whole dead pixel on psp debate, then the whole misunderstood OSX / linux debacle, then we get the crackdown of the grey import circuit in the UK, and now this? What gives, Sony? Don't you like money? Surely you don't give a flying fuck as to where people buy your overpriced, undermanufactured console and it's games? Also the price gouging you seem to do as evident in the summary i'm sure won't fly in the face of information and outcry on the internet and hopefully popular media will pick this up as well.

Keep doing this, sony and you will be publicly humiliated (again) and fewer people will buy your stuff. Hell, even Microsoft isn't that evil. Try to control the market in such an evil way, and it will always come back and bite you in the ass.

In summary: If Sony was an icecream flavor, they'd be pralines and dick.

Re:Sony has officially gone bananas. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268706)

mmmmm pralines and dick.

Re:Sony has officially gone bananas. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268783)

Awww...

The liddle xbox fanboy is throwing a tempertantrum.

Re:Sony has officially gone bananas. (0, Offtopic)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268998)

In summary: If Sony was an icecream flavor, they'd be pralines and dick

It is comments like these that cause me to wonder if slashdotters have something against homosexuals, as if they were less than other people.

get that beam outta your own eye, bud! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269199)

Seems like you're the one inferring that pralines and dick ice-cream is a bad thing.


I bet you've never even tried it!

Re:Sony has officially gone bananas. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269026)

If Sony was an icecream flavor, they'd be pralines and dick.

It is a quote, modified of course, from Wayne's World. Don't get your knickers in a twist just because the guy isn't original.

Re:Sony has officially gone bananas. (1)

Megane (129182) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269069)

You forgot the part about the iTunes Music Store Japan/Australia debacle.

Re:Sony has officially gone bananas. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269267)

Hell, even Microsoft isn't that evil


Ummm... I know you're in the heat of the moment, but let's not say things we'll regret.

And please remember, Microsoft now has the monopoly on evil [bbspot.com], so please do a little research before making such profoundly unresearched and unsupported statements.

Re:Sony has officially gone bananas. (4, Interesting)

mac666er (591442) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269462)

Amen to that MR Willeh.

I put a lot of value on design for the gadgets that I consume, hence I am a mac geek. However, a time came when I needed to run a Windows App and had to choose a laptop from the Wintel world.

From all the available options, the VAIOs were by far the most appealing ones, so I bought a GRX. The only problem? How awfully they are manufactured and supported, as I later unfortunately found out.

One day the thing just wouldn't recognize half of the RAM installed and sometimes it would freeze without any warning sign of any kind. When trying to find out what was wrong with it, I contacted SONY, and it showed me the finger. The official support site didn't mention anything and the help line guys told me that I needed to send in the laptop and pay a service fee at my expense just to see what was going on.

I later found out in here [hardwareanalysis.com] that the problem was indeed common (pins one to ten in the first memory socket were not soldered properly), that SONY knew about it for a long time, and still didn't EVEN put it in a website as a potential problem that could arise in a VAIO.

To this day (three and a half years after its release) SONY still hasn't aknowledged the faulty motherboard problem. Now, I really am not that picky as not to buy a product from a company that has had this kind of problem, because in the end, every company has had their fair share. But SONY has this strange corporate attitude.

Nice ideas, but... beats me. No wonder their shares have been tanking [digitalconnectmag.com]. I can tell you I will NOT buy a VAIO again and I wished there were some sort of AMAZON store for laptops with a similar "rating and comments" system where I could put this experience up.

If you are thinking of buying a VAIO... DON'T.

Say that again? (5, Informative)

scovetta (632629) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268638)

Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can permit the resale of the japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong no matter if on the local market or for export, it looks like this is planned to be one of the not the bright marketing ideas of the Sony HQ.

Sorry, I don't mean to be the grammar-police on Monday morning, but that's just plain terrible.

I'll translate:

Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can permit the resale of the Japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong (whether or not they are available for export), this seems to be a rather poor marketing idea coming from Sony's headquarters.

Re:Say that again? (1)

dreadz1 (813659) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268805)

Thanks for the translation. I had zero idea what the hell the original poster was trying to say. ~d

Re:Say that again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268837)

Shouldn't that 'permit' be 'prevent'?

Re:Say that again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269019)

Permit, prevent, same difference. Oh wait.

Re:Say that again? (1)

PeeAitchPee (712652) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268883)

Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can permit the resale of the japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong no matter if on the local market or for export, it looks like this is planned to be one of the not the bright marketing ideas of the Sony HQ.

The submitter clearly pulled this text straight from Lik-Sang's English website. Can you see that I am serious?!??

Re:Say that again? (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268917)

I still don't understand. Why can't Sony permit the resale of one of it's own products? If the verb had been `forbid` perhaps it'd make more sense...

s/permit/prevent (1)

Lifewish (724999) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269197)

is the only way to read it that makes any sense to me. They're *trying* to prevent it, why would they want to permit it?

In conclusion, never rely solely on Babelfish when trying to write something in a foreign language.

My Firefox isn't working... (5, Funny)

hedgehog2097 (688249) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268643)

It's not blocking the huge Lik-Sang advert on the front page of slashdot.

Is there a setting I missed?

Re:My Firefox isn't working... (1)

Ioldanach (88584) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268711)

I'm afraid the firefox ad blocker can only block images and pop-up ads. In-line text ads are unaffected.

Re:My Firefox isn't working... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268752)

You are too innocent and kind ... His comment was a joke!

Re:My Firefox isn't working... (1)

Ioldanach (88584) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269478)

Nope, just too subtle for the likes of you. Slashdot articles are posted as text, ad blockers tend to work against popups and images.

Re:My Firefox isn't working... (2, Interesting)

H3g3m0n (642800) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268919)

Although you can remove a specific table in a page with an extention called Remove It Perementaly http://rip.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org]

Re:My Firefox isn't working... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269432)

fuck yes! i've been praying for that extension!
you sir, are the shit. welcome to my friends list.

Re:My Firefox isn't working... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269225)

Firefox also failed to block the ads for Major League Baseball, National Football League, etc. when I went to ESPN.com.

Oh wait, maybe I go to web sites expecting to read news about certain industries ...

Nevermind. Nothing that is remotely for profit should ever appear in my browser window.

English (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268655)

motherfucker, do you speak it?


(apparently not)

Re:English (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268848)

the person who modded you offtopic definately does

Is Soviet Russia... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269255)

Yoda says : "speak English you it do, motherfucker? hmmmmmm?..."

PETE JENNINGS, LEFTIST, LOSER AND DEAD (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268661)

N/T out of respect for the corpse.

Does Lik-Sang have the resources to fight this? (3, Interesting)

defile (1059) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268673)

Nonsense lawsuits are only shown to be nonsense lawsuits after lots and lots of money is spent.

I have no idea how big Lik-Sang is, I just bought a GBA transfer cable from them awhile back once. For legitimate purposes, honest!

Re:Does Lik-Sang have the resources to fight this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268869)

That is, if you are in the US of A, where legal costs have skyrocketed compared to the rest of the world. I'm sure they have the resources, since they are in Hong Kong.

Re:Does Lik-Sang have the resources to fight this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269068)

Yes, and because basically lik-sang is facilitating wink-wink piracy, I encourage sony to pester them with lawsuits, even if nonsense.

Region Codes (5, Interesting)

0olong (876791) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268678)

IANAL but to me it seems like region codes are an obstruction of free trade. Why wouldn't any judicial or legislative body speak out against this?

Re:Region Codes (1)

BloodAngel_Au (449499) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268784)

Well in Australia it has been ruled by the courts or the consumer commission) that a region locked DVD player is bad and region unlocked players are compleatly legal.

Re:Region Codes (1)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269119)

Well in Australia it has been ruled by the courts or the consumer commission) that a region locked DVD player is bad and region unlocked players are compleatly legal.

I thought that all DVD players had to be region-free, or at least that manufacturers had to provide a region-free solution for any consumer who requested it.

I know that the ruling was what enabled me (in the US) to region-hack my Panasonic player; I got my hands on a copy of the 'unlock' disc that Panasonic was legally obligated to make available for Australian consumers.

Re:Region Codes (1)

iapetus (24050) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269152)

More relevantly, in Australia this form of parallel importing is completely legal - though importers are far more responsible for making sure the imported goods are genuine.

Re:Region Codes (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268820)

For the same reasons they don't speak out against all the other obstructions of free trade?

If you're going to get upset about the lack of free trade, I suggest you concentrate your efforts in areas like agriculture, raw materials and the draconian so called free trade agreements the West is making with Africa, South America and parts of Asia, rather than whine about how you have to spend more of your allowence to play games or movies.

Re:Region Codes (1)

hrieke (126185) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268894)

In a word, licensing.
If Sony licenses a song, or a character, or something for use with any of their games, that IP could have a regional license that says that they can use that IP only in certainly countries.
And this goes for any game company- Nintendo, Sega, EA, and even MS and Sony.

Re:Region Codes (1)

The Analog Kid (565327) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269338)

Intellectual Property is an obstruction to free trade and the free market, but you'll never hear any government body speak out against it.

UMD? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268680)

Uepons of Mass Destruction?

Constant Target (4, Informative)

ChrisF79 (829953) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268700)

Lik-Sang has been a constant target for legal issues in the past. I remember a couple of years ago they were selling lots of mod chips and other "hacks" for systems until Nintendo (I believe) put an end to that. I doubt this is the last time we'll read about a Lik-Sang lawsuit in the near future.

Re:Constant Target (1)

Fordiman (689627) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268808)

Not a chance. Where d'you think I got my GBA Flash cart? I mean, while I have used it for "library" testing of commercial games (seriously... 24-hour use, I promise. Most GBA games only take that long to beat or fail to be interesting anyway...), it's also been my primary development outlet for the last year (kinda like programming for a 286 with VGA, only not as peppy, and with assembler that feels suspiciously like it's made entirely of round holes).

Re:Constant Target (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268851)

There is, obviously, no 24-hour rule.

Re:Constant Target (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268956)

[Programming for the Game Boy Advance is] kinda like programming for a 286 with VGA, only not as peppy

Then you must not be using tile mode or sprites. You can make a 2D engine decidedly peppy with the GBA's 2D acceleration hardware.

and with assembler that feels suspiciously like it's made entirely of round holes

What's so bad about ARM assembly language, especially compared to x86?

It is not cheaper to import to the UK... (5, Informative)

PhotoBoy (684898) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268707)

Since the shipping at Lik-Sang is free, the console is even cheaper to import than to buy it locally.

It is not cheaper to import to the UK. While the price at Lik-Sang for a PSP minus shipping is cheaper than what the UK PSP price will be, you will always get charged import tax plus. Customs seem to know Lik-Sang and they always slap on the import tax. Plus the courier e.g. UPS, DHL et al always put a surcharge on top of the tax because they pay the tax for you at customes and then demand a cheque when they arrive at your door.

So overall it comes out to be more expensive to import by about £20 or so. Still, if importing annoys Sony then I'm all for it, since I don't see why they should be allowed to dictate who can and cannot sell PSPs, it's just a monopoly.

Re:It is not cheaper to import to the UK... (1)

rmccann (792082) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268741)

Lik-Sang must have some kind of warehouse in Germany because I ordered a GBA SP from them (it was cheaper than getting my friend with her staff discount to buy it for me). It came from Germany and hence I was charged no tax.

Plus the courier e.g. UPS, DHL et al always put a surcharge on top of the tax because they pay the tax for you at customes and then demand a cheque when they arrive at your door.

This happend to me when ordering stuff from thinkgeek. The charge for paying the tax was the same as the tax. It's a huge scam.

Re:It is not cheaper to import to the UK... (2, Informative)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268816)

They have a subsidiary, Lik-Sang Europe. They only stock the stuff you could buy 'round here anyway and all games are still shipped from Hongkong. The PSP isn't on their european list, either.

Re:It is not cheaper to import to the UK... (1)

freeduke (786783) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268746)

But you can get the white ceramic PSP, that is not available in Europe.

PSP is just about fashion!

Anyway I will only buy a PSP from lik-sang when my SDs will fit in it.

Re:It is not cheaper to import to the UK... (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268782)

Order via airmail (no shipping fees but slooooow). The tax and duty doesn't push the price above local retail prices. I've imported their 60$ games and ended up paying 55 Euros including tax and duty. Doing the calculations with the 16% tax and 3.5% duty I paid for importing last time I come out at 240 Euros for the PSP. Local price is 250. Of course, had you ordered it earlier you might have gotten it before the european launch but ordering now and using airmail would take longer than waiting for the local release.

Fiction. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268714)


"Since the shipping at Lik-Sang is free, the console is even cheaper to import than to buy it locally."

By the time you've added the UPS Handling Fees, VAT and import duty, it is NOT cheaper.

Re:Fiction. (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269215)

There shouldn't be any import duty, but even with just VAT, it will come in at £184 as against the £179 expected launch price. £5 isn't that much for early bragging rights though.

Re:Fiction. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269355)

Yeah, but Sony want that money and they know that the British will pay it because theyve been price fucking "dry, without vasaline" for years now.

Now if only they had some good games! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268725)

Then maybe I'd buy one.

Global market (4, Insightful)

jurt1235 (834677) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268767)

I thought companies want a global market and are pressing the G7/8 (depends on how you count) to help them in that. But when the market acts back in a global way by protesting against region codings, delayed movie releases (thus watching the copies from the internet), the same companies protest by using their legal means and shear size.

In short: Sony, stop acting like a little kid, just be global, dump region codings, dump price strategies and just sell you products for a fair price all over the globe.

Adjusting for typo... (4, Interesting)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268786)

"Since it's highly doubtful that Sony can prohibit the resale of the japanese PSP consoles in Hong Kong no matter if on the local market or for export,"

It is true, the sales themselves cannot be stopped. However, as UK importers have learned recently to their chagrin, you selling them can be stopped. All Sony has to do is claim that you are using their trademark on the term "PSP" without their permission, and you'll be forced to sell "popular black handheld video game unit from a major manufacturer of electronic devices," something that just doesn't get many hits in a search engine.

Re:Adjusting for typo... (1)

DigitalReverend (901909) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268841)

Maybe JASC Software can get some money out of this. They've been using the term PSP (Paint Shop Pro) a lot longer than Sony.

Greed (5, Insightful)

CrashRoX (783286) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268811)

Sony is being greedy over a few dollars. This company is buying and selling mass amounts of usits. Sony should be happy they are getting there wholesale rate, im sure it doesnt change that much from country to country, its all relative. The whole point of internet commerce is having the ability to find competitive prices and order from anywhere in the world.

Re:Greed (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268834)

shut the fuck up fudge packer... it's sony's shit and they can do whatever they want with it.

looking at your post history, one can see that you are quite the hippy. please grow up.

thank you.

Re:Greed (1)

CrashRoX (783286) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268901)

Anonymous Coward you absolutly right... As a consumer I would really like to pay more for my products just because I feel bad that a company like sony doesnt already make enough. Maybe we should just do away with international trade and selling and keep all the money circulating within our own country. Yes it is "Sonys shit" and they can do what they like with it, but I would like to see them remove products from retail stores/resellers and see how well they do on there own. If the profit margin was going to be higher they would have done this a long time ago.

Boo Sony (5, Insightful)

nmaster64 (867033) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268852)

See, companies like Sony complain about people importing their products, but if they'd just bring their products to us quicker, this wouldn't happen. Can someone give me one good reason they couldn't launch the PSP in Europe at the same time they launched it in America? If companies can make it more of a priority to bring products to overseas markets quicker, or at all in many cases, than they are going to have to deal with the reality of importing as a consumer solution. For the record, I totally back Lik-Sang.com. They're where I import my Gamecube games from. Awesome site. Down with Sony!

Re:Boo Sony (2, Insightful)

TobyWong (168498) | more than 8 years ago | (#13269558)

I think initially they were worried they would not be able to produce enough PSPs to meet demand. After all they "soft launched" in north america due to uncertainty about how well it would be received.

Looking at how many titles have come out since launch and at the extremely immature state of the PSP firmware(nice "user-friendly" filesystem you got there sony), this thing was not ready for release anywhere. This is a device that is capable of some very impressive things but limped out of the gates with some pretty sorry software/firmware support.

For the record I actually imported my jap PSP back in january through lik sang but don't tell anyone... I don't want the sony enforcers showing up on my doorstep to beat me up.

 

Nooo... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13268876)

LikSang is so awesome...they are the same people who make those xbox controller to kbm adapters...someone won a tournament using one of those...I hope they make it through the lawsuit!

Who cares (2, Insightful)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268888)

Couldn't careless what Sony say. I just bought a DS and it truely deserves to be called innovative. Keep your PSPs and whatever else. When you have a game as fun as Zoo Keeper is then maybe I'll look.

Untill then go back to pulling tricks like this and even the Sony fanboys will hate you

Re:Who cares (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269183)

I love my DS and I think it's innovative as hell, but I do hope that you don't go around using Zoo Keeper as an example of its level of innovation, seeing as how it's just Bejeweled in wolf's clothing (and lion's, and panda's, et al). There are many more games out there that really showcase the DS's innovation, like Meteos, Wario Ware: Touched, Yoshi Touch & Go, Kirby Canvas Curse, Elektroplankton, Polarium, etc etc.

Re:Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13269189)

'Insightful'? Well, I guess there's no moderation option for 'predictable fanboy whining'... When will they learn that different people like different games?

More of a problem for Sony (3, Insightful)

aliquis (678370) | more than 8 years ago | (#13268967)

Regarding regions and when it will be released here in Europe, I don't see the trouble for Lik-Sang. Sonys own fault...

Lik-Sang FTW.
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