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The Hidden Boot Code of the Xbox

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the stuff-to-read dept.

Hardware Hacking 284

Device666 writes "In order to lock out both copied games as well as homebrew software, including the GNU/Linux operating system, Microsoft built a chain of trust on the Xbox reaching from the hardware to the execution of game code, in order to avoid the infiltration of code that has not been authorized by Microsoft. The link between hardware and software in this chain of trust is the hidden "MCPX" boot ROM. The principles, the implementations and the security vulnerabilities of this 512 bytes ROM will be discussed in this wikipedia article entitled How to fit three bugs in 512 bytes of security code."

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dupe (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303176)

dupe

Re:dupe (2, Informative)

moonbender (547943) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303263)

Not only that, it's also certainly not a Wikipedia article. Not every Wiki is Wikipedia, for crying out loud.

Re:dupe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303369)

And not everyone wants to read the same whining over and over and over

Re:dupe (1)

Poromenos1 (830658) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303414)

Not every Wiki is Wikipedia, for crying out loud.

Correction: Not every wiki that looks like Wikipedia is Wikipedia. It does look the same, but when the URL starts with http://www.xbox-linux.org/ [xbox-linux.org] , that's kind of a giveaway.

Re:dupe (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303441)

Haven't I read this post before?

KFG

Dupe of previous story (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303177)

This has already been posted in the Games section. Dupe-a-thon, and posting a Wiki too? Jesus christ.

Re:Dupe of previous story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303510)

Please do not use the name of "Jesus Christ" in vain. He died for your sins.

Re:Dupe of previous story (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303540)

No, he got nailed to a cross because he said what he wanted to say. Ironic you're telling someone not to say something, isn't it?

Re:Dupe of previous story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303622)

He was a little eairly, I didnt start sinning until about 14 years ago. It's good he got a jump on it though.

Dupe (5, Informative)

dkf (304284) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303178)

Thanks for not reading your own site, CmdrTaco

Re:Dupe (5, Funny)

nitio (825314) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303417)

Posted by CmdrTaco on Friday August 12, @10:32AM
from the stuff-to-read dept.


Oh the irony...

Re:Dupe (1)

Evro (18923) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303531)

You don't even have to read Slashdot to check these dupes anymore. Just run the titles through Google.

site:slashdot.org xbox boot [google.com]

With Slashdot not having had major features added in a while I have to wonder what everybody over there is doing that's keeping them from reading their own site. I heard about a CSS implementation of the site in the works, but there have been sample rewrites in CSS for almost 2 years now, so I don't know what the deal is.

Maybe the site should be renamed Slashslashdotdot to reflect its duplicative nature.

Re:Dupe (3, Funny)

ari_j (90255) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303575)

I suspect that they spend most of their time finding all the non-duplicate, insightful articles that have been submitted so that they can reject them.

Re:Dupe (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303658)

These stories aren't the same you see: one is a crazy modern teenager while the one is the sophisticated identical cousin from England.

What a crazy pair, two of a kind!

We'll call it the Patty Dupe Show!

dupes explained (1)

capicu (880524) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303713)

A user is desperate to get his 15 mins by getting his story on the front page. He has tried and failed. A lot. So, he waits for a story to pass that won't be too high profile, and researches it, sticks with it for a while, looking for something different to say about it.

Then he either waits a month or two, or submits it when he thinks a different editor will see it.
Slashdot has a vulnerability. People are abusing it. Get over it.

Outside this chain of trust... (-1, Redundant)

zarthrag (650912) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303186)

...is a duped slashdot article.

Sounds like.... (3, Funny)

wgray8231 (905984) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303187)

The title of a seminar held on the Redmond, WA campus.

Thanks! (0, Redundant)

Loonacy (459630) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303188)

I didn't get enough out of this article the first time around. Thanks for posting it again!

Dupe (0, Redundant)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303194)

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/08/ 2013251&tid=211&tid=156 [slashdot.org] Probably pointed out already, but at least I'm helpful and give the reference link.

Oh damn you all (0)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303214)

Now you've gone ahead and made my dupe post a dupe. The irony is excruciating.

lol (0, Redundant)

cptbarkey (906688) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303195)

sorry, not newsworthy

Hey now... (0, Redundant)

Knight Thrasher (766792) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303197)

In all fairness, the previous posting of this had NOTHING about Wikipedia in it. Perhaps that was the intended news to spread?

Re:Hey now... (2, Informative)

FireFlie (850716) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303303)

It would seem that this article has nothing to do with wikipedia either (except mentioning the name). Correct me if I'm wrong, but wiki != wikipedia.

Re:Hey now... (2, Informative)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303388)

In all fairness, the previous posting of this had NOTHING about Wikipedia in it. Perhaps that was the intended news to spread?

Duplicate story, duplicate link.

The previous article [slashdot.org] linked to the same page on xbox-linux.org, which is a wiki; not part of "The" wikipedia. [wikipedia.org] Taco is asleep at the switch again.

Not Wikipedia (5, Informative)

c0l0 (826165) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303198)

Just because some text is available on a Wiki, it's not automatically so on Wikipedia, y'know?

Re:Not Wikipedia (4, Insightful)

Zeinfeld (263942) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303298)

The article is completely wrong when it says that the article is on Wikipedia, it is in a Wiki. Which is probably why a lot of people will do what I did and visit the site thinking 'massive NPVO violation'.

Of course what is really going on here is a massive competence violation on the part of Commander Buritto

Re:Not Wikipedia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303410)

My guess is that Device666, while in a drug-induced hallucination, assumed that wiki is a contraction of wikipedia, when wikipedia is actually a portmanteau word from wiki and encyclopedia. Wiki in turn is from the Hawaiian word wikiwiki.

Deja Vu is just... (5, Funny)

SynapseLapse (644398) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303200)

the slashdotrix adjusting itself... Pay no attention to that cat.

Re:Deja Vu is just... (1)

Dr.Opveter (806649) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303326)

Well at least your post in this topic helped me remember the title of a game i used to play on the Apple, Deja vu! Thanks :-)

Wikipedia (5, Funny)

mnemonic_ (164550) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303202)

The principles, the implementations and the security vulnerabilities of this 512 bytes ROM will be discussed in this wikipedia article entitled How to fit three bugs in 512 bytes of security code.

So it seems someone doesn't know the difference between a page with wiki technology and Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] .

This is not a wikipedia article... (3, Interesting)

afabbro (33948) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303204)

...otherwise, the domain would be wikipedia.org. Not every site that runs MediaWiki is the Wikipedia.

You'd expect "editing" to catch something like that...

Re:This is not a wikipedia article... (5, Funny)

Philmeeh (189317) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303221)

Ahh yes but I wouldn't expect editing to occur on Slashdot

Shouldn't the editors at least RTFA? (2, Insightful)

hunterx11 (778171) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303209)

Not only is this a dupe, but the summary claims that the link is a Wikipedia article. Guess what--not every site running MediaWiki is WIkipedia. In fact, I'm pretty sure that only Wikipedia is Wikipedia.

Re:Shouldn't the editors at least RTFA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303467)

After the recent uprising against Zonk, it's quite likely that he's giving Taco some of his pay to post the dupes for him.

Re:Shouldn't the editors at least RTFA? (3, Funny)

someonewhois (808065) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303538)

You know the irony? Browsing at +3 threshold right now shows two posts in a row:

1. http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=15882 1&cid=13303204 [slashdot.org]
2. http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=15882 1&cid=13303209 [slashdot.org]

I love how they have the EXACT same sentence of "not every site running mediawki is wikipedia".

Howto fit 2 stories in the same (5, Funny)

bigdady92 (635263) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303218)

512b of space. NExT ON SLASHDOT!

Ah, slashdot (4, Funny)

EvilMonkeySlayer (826044) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303224)

The thing everyone needs to remember is that slashdot is akin to Norman Bates, a lot of them are confused, a lot of them crossdress and are very often psychotic.

So, the next time you see a dupe.. remember, be quiet.. or you could be murdered by a crossdressing psychopath.

Re:Ah, slashdot (1)

lisaparratt (752068) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303613)

Come off it - crossdressers have the potential to be sexy.

I'd doubt any of the editors being sexy.

So that's six bugs per kilobyte? (5, Funny)

mikeophile (647318) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303227)

Is that over or under Microsoft's par?

Re:So that's six bugs per kilobyte? (1)

Agret (752467) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303297)

They allow for a 110% bug ratio.

Re:So that's six bugs per kilobyte? (1)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303624)

How many bugbytes is that?

Not Wikipedia (0, Redundant)

Nehle (784297) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303228)

That's not a wikipedia article, that's an article from a wiki running mediawiki.

Entitled? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303259)

"...discussed in this wikipedia article entitled How to fit three..."

Articles aren't entitled to anything.

Re:Entitled? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303350)

entitle

      verb 1 give (someone) a right to do or have. 2 give a title to (a book, play, etc.).

You could probably make an argument, given the second definition, that it is the correct word to use. I personally prefer the simplicity of 'titled', just because it avoids problems like this.

chain of trust? (0, Troll)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303262)

Isn't it more like a chain of mistrust?!

Re:chain of trust? (2, Funny)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303308)

Maybe the chain of Anti-Trust?

3 bugs? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303282)

Wow, someone forgot to turn off the auto-MSbash function. Have you heard any complaints about bugs on the xbox? no. How many millions play games on xbox live again?

And considering the lengths you have to go just to install linux on an xbox, mod chips and the like, I'd say those 512 bytes seem to be working just fine.

Oh, sorry, if MS makes it it must be buggy. And I guess they trounced nintendo in the marketplace because they were a monopoly and used anticompetitive practices too.

Re:3 bugs? (1)

AwaxSlashdot (600672) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303363)

Those bugs are not ones that prevent games from running. Those bugs are bugs that prevent the anti-BootROM-tweak system to work.

Re:3 bugs? (2, Informative)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303454)

Please show me where they trounced Nintendo in the market place. And when I say market place, I consider the entire world where Nintendo and Microsoft have basically been neck and neck in hardware sales since their respective releases. Sure, Microsoft is doing surprisingly well in NA, but Japan is a different story.

Re:3 bugs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303580)

Obviously you and they are using definitions of marketplace. You even pointed this out in your post. Yet, you are still a jackass about it. Odd.

Why?! (0, Flamebait)

Fringex (711655) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303296)

Why can't people just play the XBox instead of hacking it? I mean seriously, you don't see me hacking my XBox. I buy a game, I play a game. It is quite simple.

Sure the arguement can be brought up that some people want to know how it works. Well? Go work for a bloody gaming company who designs how it works.

I read these articles and think to myself... You know they sure do like to brand Microsoft as bug filled. But damn can't we at least brand the people who are breaking the EULA's and such for these "hacks." Microsoft made a game system for people to enjoy games on.

If they had three freaking bugs, whoopy do. At least I am not the unscrupulous individual who is taking the time and effort into doing something that is morally wrong.

Re:Why?! (4, Insightful)

Agret (752467) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303330)

Spoken like a true person who hasn't seen a modded xbox.

MOD PARENT UP INSIGHTFUL (2, Informative)

th0mas.sixbit.org (780570) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303442)

If I had the points, I would. Precisely what I thought when I read the GP's comments.

Until you see xbox media center play media off a remote samba share, or you sit down and enjoy playing all your old console games in similiar environment (tv/couch).. you would say things like the GP. Afterwards you would shut your mouth and learn to mod your xbox.

Re:Why?! (5, Insightful)

brokenarmsgordon (903407) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303357)

What is morally wrong about doing whatever you want with something you paid for and own?

What's morally wrong is anyone arbitrarily dictating what you can and cannot do with your personal property.

Re:Why?! (2, Interesting)

Have Blue (616) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303577)

The Xbox lockdown was always about pirated games. MS knows that only a small fraction of the audience cares about homebrew or Linux.

Re:Why?! (1)

brokenarmsgordon (903407) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303628)

So what? Guilty until proven innocent are we?

Re:Why?! (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303659)

No. It's also about imported games and unlicenced games. That's why those are disallowed as well.

Re:Why?! (1)

HD Webdev (247266) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303588)

What is morally wrong about doing whatever you want with something you paid for and own?

What's morally wrong is anyone arbitrarily dictating what you can and cannot do with your personal property.


I'm pretty sure that sheep wouldn't agree with you.

Re:Why?! (1)

brokenarmsgordon (903407) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303688)

That's because sheep lack the ability to speak and form coherent thought. Very keen observation, friend.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303672)

I don't know. What's morally wrong about wantonly shooting people with a gun I paid for and own?

Of course, this is an extreme example. The point of which is, your right to do whatever you want ends when it infringes on other people's rights.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303362)

Why is it morally wrong to hack your xbox? I paid for my xbox, I should be able to do whatever the hell I want with it. I will leave out playing pirated games in this discussion, as I could see where that could be considered morally wrong. But you are complaining about simply hacking it. That's like saying I can't put a turbo booster on my car. It's mine, I bought it, I should be allowed to modify it (or destroy it) in any way I see fit. Otherwise I might as well just rent it and not own it.

Re:Why?! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303554)

Why is it morally wrong to hack your xbox? I paid for my xbox, I should be able to do whatever the hell I want with it. I will leave out playing pirated games in this discussion, as I could see where that could be considered morally wrong. But you are complaining about simply hacking it. That's like saying I can't put a turbo booster on my car. It's mine, I bought it, I should be allowed to modify it (or destroy it) in any way I see fit. Otherwise I might as well just rent it and not own it.

If you own it you can modify it. The company that made your car isn't obligated to insure your car will run with aftermarket parts installed, though.

Folks should vote with their wallet. If an MS product doesn't meet their needs, don't buy it - but if they're howling because it doesn't do something it wasn't designed to do it seems to me the proper thing to do would be to stfu about it ;-)

Re:Why?! (1)

Fred Or Alive (738779) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303645)

Well, it's morally wrong to mod your Xbox and then use the mods to cheat with Halo 2 online (although Bungie fixed their moronic mistake[1]) or other online games. (It breaks the Xbox Live EULA as well).

I personally don't mind what people do with their Xboxes, as long as it isn't to cheat.

[1] Gee, people have been able to edit files on the hard drive for two years! Lets not bother with any verification for this downloadable content!

Re:Why?! (4, Interesting)

rindeee (530084) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303392)

Are you serious? Put down the kool-aid for a sec and consider this. If I buy something (a physical something), I own it. It's mine. If I buy and X-Box and am of the ilk that likes to know what makes things tick, it's my prerogative (and certainly within the bounds of morality) to tear it apart and put it back together. If I can make my X-Box boot Linux (which, contrary to your implication can have a very significant and useful purpose) then more power to me. I will certainly share my knowledge with others who wish to do the same. When it comes to stealing games (copyrighted works of "art"), you are dealing with an entirely different issue. That is akin to me being able to throw my buddy's X-Box into a replicator, push a few buttons and voi lah! 2 X-Boxen. Don't confuse the two concepts. Now, commence kool-aid drinking.

Re:Why?! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303397)

My memory must be shot, I'm sure I didn't sign a license agreement.

Re:Why?! (5, Funny)

Intron (870560) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303482)

That's why I always rub bacon on the shrink-wrap and let my dog open it. Then he's bound by the EULA, not me.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303583)

[AC runs off to buy some bacon, and a dog]

Re:Why?! (1)

Oizoken (562241) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303633)

i used to do the same thing with my homework, but for a totally different reason.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303399)

who is taking the time and effort into doing something that is morally wrong.
morally wrong ? i own a piece of black plastic.. what can i do that is morally wrong ? (try to sell it for 399$ ?)

Re:Why?! (0)

Eric604 (798298) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303412)

Hacking the xbox is also a game, just a different game. You play pre-made games, other people make their own games.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303418)

I shouldn't be feeding the troll, but making (lawfully purchased!) hardware doing things it was never intended to do has long been one of the cornerstones of geekdom. I've yet to see a convincing argument as to why altering something you legally own is immoral in any sense.

Re:Why?! (1)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303661)

What about hacking hardware you got via BitTorrent?

Re:Why?! (1)

webmaestro (323340) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303443)

Sure the arguement can be brought up that some people want to know how it works. Well? Go work for a bloody gaming company who designs how it works.

Yeah, because obviously if I want to find out about anything I can just apply for a job at the company, which I will get. And fortunately the company will just ask me what I want to do and let me do it. Just like when I want to see movies before they come out I can just decide to get a job at a movie studio and they will let me watch the movies.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303457)

The more interesting point is why people love to focus on MS's products. I'm sure there are bugs in the Playstation 2 and the gamecube, but no one cares. The care about MS, because it's MS.

They hate MS so much they can't stop thinking about it and obsessing over it. Basically, they are stalkers.

I wonder, are there websites where car mechanics write about how the ignition mechanism on the Honda Accord is is poorly designed because there is a 0.5mm flange of metal wthat should have been a barb and how those engineers are stupid, and by extrapolation how they, the mechanics, are smarter than Honda? No. Because car mechanics are rarely that arrogant.

You want to know why MS is smarter than all these hackers? Because they can produce a seemingly "buggy" xbox, write seemingly "buggy" software like Halo 2 that everyone trips over themselves to buy and play, and make hundreds of millions of dollars *in a weekend* doing it.

Meanwhile, you hackers with your allegedly clever exploits and perfect code still live in you mom's basement.

Mod me for trolling, whatever.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303488)

Wow.

That really bothers you, huh?

Re:Why?! (1)

SnopeG (906844) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303507)

I hack out of necessity. The Xbox Media Center is an amazing piece of work. If these capabilities were built into the Xbox (or offered as an upgrade), then I wouldn't bother. Microsoft should learn from this and include media playing (and whatever the hacking community is doing) into the 360. I don't even use my Xbox for games...it's strickly a media player. I know there are other options out there to play my media for me, but the XBMC is the best there is!

Re:Why?! (4, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303559)

"But damn can't we at least brand the people who are breaking the EULA's and such for these "hacks." "
What EULA? When I bought my XBox I did not sign anything?

"At least I am not the unscrupulous individual who is taking the time and effort into doing something that is morally wrong."

Okay why is it unscrupulous to hack a product I own to do what I want to do with it? If I guy a house is it immoral to add on a room or to tile the floor? If I buy a book is it wrong for me to make notes in the margin? If I buy a CD is it wrong to skip the tracks I really do not like? If I buy a model kit and us those parts to make a different model is that evil? If I buy a car and then put in a new stereo system and better shocks am I dammed to hell? Just how is any of this unscrupulous or immoral?
If their is a bug in that boot code that has security issues then how bringing it to light any more immoral than reporting that flaw in a car publicly?

Your concept of what is moral and what is not is odd at best. If you just want to play games on your XBox then to play some games.

Re:Why?! (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303573)

Why cant people cook over fire like ogg instead of hacking it?

I build fire, I cook over fire. But Ugg over there has to mess up fire by changing it and adding stone cover over fire and slate door in front of fire to make fire do things it was not intended to.

now Ugg is spreading this evil change to fire and giving away this really evil "bread" he cooks in his "oven" that is against the EULA of fire.

Cooking over fire is quite simple and those chaging fire are only making it more difficult for others wanting fire.

others should do as OGG does and stick head in sand to avoid change and innovation.

Hmm, sounds ALOT like what you just said. if we all had the silly attitude you did, we would not have computers now. HACKING and hackers brought you everything you have and enjoy now from your house to your car to your food to your precious Xbox.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303641)

Can we revoke UIDs of people who are ignorant AND make value judgments on those that know better?

The XBOX is a PC, marketed as an entertainment system. If people want to use it like a PC - run Linux in clusters, watch movies, play games from classic systems, stream internet radio and TV, etc. - more power to them. This comment is ridiculous, and reveals the poster's ignorance of not only the box itself, but also of Microsoft's long term strategy in this market. If you think it's about games, you are living in the last century.

PS: Insightful!? WTF! A minute ago, this was a much more appropriate Flamebait.

Re:Why?! (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303686)

No.

It's about discussion. People will comment. Read responses. Learn. It's all good, albeit frustrating for some.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303667)

You're one of those guys who only ever bought lego sets that came with an instruction manual arn't you?

Even if a person wants to tear their XBox apart, spray paint it pink and make it into a collage then I really see no problems, moral, ethical or otherwise.

Re:Why?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303677)

why you ask?

why not?

playing with a hardware design is morally wrong? wow. i am left speechles.

Slashdotted or what? (1)

lofoforabr (751004) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303321)

Anyone able to RTFA? Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /home/groups/x/xb/xbox-linux/htdocs/w/includes/Obj ectCache.php on line 409

Re:Slashdotted or what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303419)

Why would it be Slashdotted? We all read the article when it was first posted on Monday.

How to fit 3 bugs in 512 bytes of security code (4, Funny)

CSHARP123 (904951) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303323)

Easy. Just put one bug in every 170.666666666666667 bytes and you will be done.

Re:How to fit 3 bugs in 512 bytes of security code (1)

Noaccess0 (888935) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303485)

512 bytes should be enough for anyone. (had to be said)

What about hardware? (1)

AltGrendel (175092) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303346)

I haven't finished RTFA yet, but I wonder if this will work with that "MS Appproved Hardware" initiative that I've read about.

Microsoft Consistency (4, Funny)

Blindman (36862) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303354)

At least Microsoft provides the same level of security to it own hardware as its does yours. You can't accuse Microsoft of playing favorites.

Again!?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303365)

I didn't read it the first time. I don't think I am going to read it the second time.

Tim

Sensationalist trash. (4, Insightful)

AceJohnny (253840) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303390)

Wow. Was it something in the coffee this morning?

First of all, it a dupe with another article [slashdot.org] in the games section.

Then it's wrong. The article isn't from wikipedia.

Finally, nice sensationalist terms:
- Oh noes, this code locked out GNU/Linux! Bad Microsoft!
- Hah, Microsoft can't even write 512 bytes of code without bugs!

Oh, and that last part was only the subtitle of the article, not the real title. But no thanks for pointing it out.

Read the interesting linked article, or the comments on the original post on games.slashdot, but this article here is exactly what I don't like seeing on Slashdot.

You're a dupe yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13303545)

Interesting Read (1)

Shads (4567) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303460)

That was really interesting, and while it's a dupe it's the first time I've come across it.

I hadn't really tinkered in my x-box's internals just due to lack of time (I had previous tinkered with my ps1 and n64 a bit.)

I'm an amateur when it comes to assembly but the way that was presented made it pretty much easily readable for anyone. Kudos to the peeps who made it available.

Re:Interesting Read (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303514)

The original was in the games section, it never made it to the front page. That's probably why you have never read it.

Pointless (1)

Sinju (907042) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303480)

All the security that they put on games is a waste of time and money... if people want to copy a game they are going to find a way to do so, nothing has stoped them so far.

Mirror (1, Redundant)

melvin22 (523080) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303530)

Mirror here [nyud.net]

Nice to read... (1)

AchilleTalon (540925) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303602)

Microsoft has managed to include only three bugs, after all, they had a whole 512 bytes to include much more.

good news! (1, Insightful)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303620)

Good news everybody! Apparently according to the new editorial standards set forth by CmdrTaco himself, every site that runs on slashcode can now be referred to as Slashdot! This should help line his pockets further so he'll be able to pay even less attention to his own site (as if that's possible)...

only 3? (1)

l0rdpestilence (881264) | more than 9 years ago | (#13303699)

Only 3 bugs. Out does my GPL/GNU/Linux pos open office do dad with 50 thousand bugs , poor library management, crap fonts. I may go Microsoft after all. Microsoft rules, linux sucks, cause every os sucks--and blows, at the same time
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