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Google Instant Messenger Coming Really (or Not?)

CmdrTaco posted about 9 years ago | from the it's-ross-and-rachel-all-over-again dept.

Google 577

bach37 writes "Google is rumored to launch its own instant messenger tomorrow." Other sources are reporting that talk.google.com is running jabber. Of course we've also had stories about all this being rumors

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Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. (-1, Offtopic)

Darth Maul (19860) | about 9 years ago | (#13378880)

Come on, slashdot. Get your act together. How about just re-work your order of publishing, and get the article page set up BEFORE the link on the main page? Is it really that hard?

180 degrees? (4, Interesting)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | about 9 years ago | (#13378891)

Didn't Google explicitely claim they were not making an IM service?

Why would they make one anyway? Doesn't really seem to fit with their current strategy unless they tie it into gmail somehow.

Re:180 degrees? (1)

Fr05t (69968) | about 9 years ago | (#13378920)

" tie it into gmail somehow"

Well they might, and it would be smart if they did. I for one always have a tab in firefox opened for gmail.

Re:180 degrees? (5, Informative)

the_mighty_$ (726261) | about 9 years ago | (#13378926)

MOD PARENT DOWN! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13379118)

Link goes to a porn site. Thanks a lot.

Re:180 degrees? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378933)

Didn't Google explicitely claim they were not making an IM service?

Well, does setting up a Jabber server constitute making an IM service? I wouldn't be surprised if this is what they did. And in hindsight, everything they've stated about not making an IM service so far is probably technically correct.

Of course it fits into their strategy! (1)

jasongetsdown (890117) | about 9 years ago | (#13378961)

They currently have a tool for every popular form of communication on the web accept IM. Blogger, Gmail, Google Groups, and now Google IM.
Lateral Integration.

Re:Of course it fits into their strategy! (2, Funny)

someonewhois (808065) | about 9 years ago | (#13379029)

I would accept an instant messenger protocol from them, except I think they're still missing a grammar checker.

Mod parent FUNNY (0)

jasongetsdown (890117) | about 9 years ago | (#13379140)

IM grammar, hehehe...heh....*sigh*

Multiplatform? I think not. (1, Troll)

A_Known_Coward (513453) | about 9 years ago | (#13378987)

One thing we can expect from Google: if this is true, they will explicitly not make it for Linux.

Let's just hope they settle on an open and published IM standard (new or existing) so it will be easier to shoehorn into Gaim. That way, I can add it to my 4 IM logins I already use centrally.

Re:Multiplatform? I think not. (4, Informative)

lav-chan (815252) | about 9 years ago | (#13379061)

(Assuming again that this is truly going to be a 'Google IM' and it's not just some bizarro misunderstanding,) talk.google.com is running Jabber. If they're going to launch the service tomorrow, that's what they're going to launch with. It's not like they're just running Jabber today and then tomorrow they're going to switch it all up on us with some crazy proprietary protocol.

And... since Jabber is 'an open and published IM standard'... what have you got to worry about?


Also, i don't know a whole ton about Jabber or how Google works internally, and i'm not suggesting that it's true or false, but what are the chances that maybe talk.google.com is just like a corporate Jabber server? Like for Google employees to talk to each other? :shrug:

Re:180 degrees? (4, Insightful)

the_mighty_$ (726261) | about 9 years ago | (#13379004)

Doesn't really seem to fit with their current strategy unless they tie it into gmail somehow.

Google's strategy is this: make as many people as possible click on their ads. Gmail was one extension of this idea. It let Google deliver ads not only when people were searching the Internet, but also when they read their emails. A Google IM service would do the same thing. Now Google would also be able to deliver ads when people were chatting.

In fact, if I were Google, I would be working on Google Browser. Then they could deliver ads whenever someone was browsing the Internet!

You mean "Opera"? (4, Funny)

Moraelin (679338) | about 9 years ago | (#13379048)

"In fact, if I were Google, I would be working on Google Browser. Then they could deliver ads whenever someone was browsing the Internet!"

You mean Opera [opera.com] ? That's what it does. Serves Google ads as soon as you open the browser, and then for each page you visit.

Re:180 degrees? (0, Offtopic)

HateBreeder (656491) | about 9 years ago | (#13379142)

Why would anyone use an AdWare WebBrowser, when there are completely free alternatives, like Firefox, without the ads to piss you off?

Re:180 degrees? (2, Insightful)

programic (139404) | about 9 years ago | (#13379059)

Actually, it does fit in. They know what you search for. They know whats in your email. What if they knew what was in your IMs?

Think of how valuable that information would be to a marketer.

Re:180 degrees? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13379065)

"Apple will never release a sub-$500 headless unit."

"Apple will never go x86."

Re:180 degrees? (2, Interesting)

famebait (450028) | about 9 years ago | (#13379068)

Why would they make one anyway? Doesn't really seem to fit with their current strategy

Take a look at the sidebar that comes with the latest google desktop, and you'll see it fits like a charm.

unless they tie it into gmail somehow.

That would be a natural thnkg to do, yes. And the sidebar would make it a lot easier to do.

Doesn't mean I necessarily believe they are doing this, but I hope so.

Re:180 degrees? (3, Funny)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | about 9 years ago | (#13379141)

It would appear that they want to take over the internet by playing their "we're not Microsoft" card.

if it comes out... (4, Interesting)

mix_master_mike (540678) | about 9 years ago | (#13378892)

It will have to tie into the new sidebar (update?) and will probably link to gmail accounts - which means that it could be BETA only? In any regard, I'm excited for it, pending its real.

Re:if it comes out... (1)

OMGBBQ (909376) | about 9 years ago | (#13378914)

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA! When it links with maps.google, then you really can drive to someone's house and choke them for talking!

Re:if it comes out... (4, Insightful)

Iriel (810009) | about 9 years ago | (#13379117)

Personally, I couldn't care less if it's only BETA. I've been using quite a large amount of beta probrams from Google and I've yet to be disappointed. As far as tie ins, here's my idea:

The reason everything is still in beta is because Google wants to find out what their 'core' set of applications are going to be. Once they find the real crowd pleaser beta applications, they can work on a final release of each with features that integrate all of them.

It may never happen, but I think an instant messenger service could be an interesting way to unite the applications, like drawing a map in a google earth and using it's GoogleChat plug-in to send the .gmp(some made-up google map file extension) file to your friend which is imported into a pullout window in their GoogleDeskbar that they've been using for chat.

It's just an idea.

Someone at google... (4, Interesting)

LordEd (840443) | about 9 years ago | (#13378895)

configured talk.google.com to redirect to www.google.com/talk. Its currently an empty page, but perhaps that means something.

Re:Someone at google... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378918)

It means something alright, create media buzz and raise stock price.

The question really is ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378899)

so what? Do we really need another chat client? I'll get excited when/if the feature list ever gets published.

VOIP dialing from buddy list (5, Interesting)

Elpepe55 (877639) | about 9 years ago | (#13378900)

Apparently this will feature VOIP as direct competition to Skype.

Re:VOIP dialing from buddy list (5, Interesting)

asliarun (636603) | about 9 years ago | (#13378971)

I think so too. Tie this with the fact that Google's buying a whole lot of dark fibre, it makes sense. They've already released the upgraded desktop search along with the sidebar. Deploying the IM through their toolbar or sidebar would be a piece of cake for Google. The question is: how do they make money from a VOIP service or even an IM application if they'll provide the service for free?

Re:VOIP dialing from buddy list (1)

Elpepe55 (877639) | about 9 years ago | (#13379007)

Context-based ads, of course

Re:VOIP dialing from buddy list (4, Funny)

Bitsy Boffin (110334) | about 9 years ago | (#13379052)

How do you do context ads on VOIP? Voice recognition isn't good enough.

I can just imagine...

So Bob, I was talking to Jim the other day about that new medication he's on...
BEEEEP, Google here, I heard you talking about medication, can I interest you in some PENIS ENLARGEMENT PILLS? Press 3 followed by the hash key to learn more, or press 1 to continue your conversation.

Re:VOIP dialing from buddy list (1)

Elpepe55 (877639) | about 9 years ago | (#13379138)

It wouldn't be through voice. If you voice dial someone you typically voice dial at 8 p.m. Friday nights, maybe the ad on the buddy list will be for movies. However if you voice dial someone you typically only talk to on business days, maybe the ad will relate to business.

Re:VOIP dialing from buddy list (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about 9 years ago | (#13379063)

Context-based ads, of course

Great... clippy for IM only more effective.

"It looks like you are chatting about your boss during business hours! Would you like to check out this [monster.com] site?"

"It looks like you are chatting about STDs. Perhaps this [webmd.com] or this [wikipedia.org] might interest you."

This seems like the right time to toss in a line about welcoming our new overlords or something.

Re:VOIP dialing from buddy list (1)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | about 9 years ago | (#13379139)

The question is: how do they make money from a VOIP service or even an IM application if they'll provide the service for free?

How does Yahoo make money on their IM app that supports voice (and video) over IP? The best thing that could ever happen would be for some cross-platform instant messaging app to come out that supports voice and video chatting like Yahoo Messenger does... maybe I could finally convert my mother to a Mac after finding a replacement to her "killer app": Yahoo IM voice chat. I even offered to buy her a new Mac if she'd get rid of her Windows box, but she refuses because "all my friends are on Yahoo voice chat", which doesn't work on Macs, only the camera. Bah.

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378902)


Now we can have these big public wanking session with Google, too!
 

Everything? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378904)

This is another case of a company trying to do everything. I just don't get it. Is Google going to move into consumer electronics next?

Great, but... (0, Offtopic)

Heliode (856187) | about 9 years ago | (#13378905)

...will it run on BeOS??

YAIM (5, Funny)

gatkinso (15975) | about 9 years ago | (#13378908)

Yet Another Instant Messanger.

Just what we need!

Re:YAIM (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378929)

sweet.. i only have 4 IM accounts :D

Re:YAIM (1)

logic hack (800754) | about 9 years ago | (#13379010)

I encourage Google to stick it's toe in the water in this area and see what improvements it can try and make. The more instant messangers the better.

As long as they don't invent a new messaging protocol. Use jabber; keep it open; be happy.

Just "Being Google" not enough. (4, Insightful)

Bitsy Boffin (110334) | about 9 years ago | (#13378909)

I don't see what Google has to gain in doing this, surely it would be an incredible uphill battle for an IM released by them to capture any significant portion of the market against the established clients running over MSN's and AIM's protocols.

They would have to come up with something pretty interesting to cause enough buzz to get people to switch I think.

Well, tomorrow will tell by the looks of things, one way or the other.

Re:Just "Being Google" not enough. (5, Insightful)

quark101 (865412) | about 9 years ago | (#13378936)

Part of the allure though is that it will be by Google. Their name alone is enough to make some people switch. In the eyes of many, Google can do no wrong, especially since it has been releasing so many cool programs for free, ala Google Earth, the Sidebar, Gmail, etc.

Re:Just "Being Google" not enough. (1)

Bitsy Boffin (110334) | about 9 years ago | (#13378951)

Replying to myself because this just occured to me, sorry if I'm karma whoring...

If they did manage to capture enough market, it would be an incredible means for them to deliver advertising. Think of it, a targetted adwords ad in the interface, refreshing every now and then based on the keywords in what you are discussing.

Brings up the old privacy problem, but it's gotta be a good way for G to make some more money out of adwords.

Hotmail (5, Insightful)

PhYrE2k2 (806396) | about 9 years ago | (#13378954)

They grabbed a lot of hotmail users at the time when they launched gmail. How is this any different? Microsoft grabbed tons of MSN Messenger users making ICQ's market share take a HUGE dive at that point (almost everyone I know switched over for example).

Why would they have nothing to gain and why would it be difficult? They offer something better (faster connections, less intrusive ads [since it would be supported by premium VoIP services], easier than remembering a number, more video features, more voice features, linking with cell phones, VoIP, more games, etc) and people will move to it. Better yet, support other messenger services (a-la Trillian... they can do this with Jabber for example) and why would anyone use MSN? There isn't really a barrier to entry. One geek will drag over their friends, and repeat.

-M

Re:Hotmail (4, Insightful)

senzafine (630873) | about 9 years ago | (#13379069)

The difference between switching email providers and IM providers is that email is universal. If i sign up today for a GMail account I can use it to communicate with anyone who has an email address. However, with IM that's not the case. I think it would be awesome if they released an IM program that connected to a propietary Google protocol but also allowed me to connect to AIM. Then I wouldn't have to use trillian anymore (even though I love trillian).

Re:Just "Being Google" not enough. (4, Insightful)

grasshoppa (657393) | about 9 years ago | (#13378956)

jabber may well be "something pretty interesting". Several of us are already running a jabber server ( which has plugins to other services, btw ).

If they released an IM service based on jabber, they'd already have an install base ( albeit, not as large as aim/msn ), with the capabilities to talk to the other services through the server of your choice.

The trick would be releasing a decent client. I know of only one jabber client currently that's usable on a daily basis, the rest are just too awkward or weird ( interface design is not "easy" it would seem, or most people leave it as an afterthought, if it even gets that much ).

We'll see, regardless, over the next few days. I think it'd be interesting to see google jump behind jabber. That might give the project the kick in the ass it needs.

Re:Just "Being Google" not enough. (1)

teslar (706653) | about 9 years ago | (#13378999)

They would have to come up with something pretty interesting to cause enough buzz to get people to switch I think.
Ads that are relevant to you, according to what you type and other people send you? :)

Re:Just "Being Google" not enough. (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 9 years ago | (#13379032)

Frankly I would have said the same thing about maps and email.
And IM client could be very interesting. Of course what no one is saying is that Google could have been running a private jabbers server.

Re:Just "Being Google" not enough. (1)

ds_job (896062) | about 9 years ago | (#13379064)

Well Trillian http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/ [ceruleanstudios.com] does well enough with a windows client for AIM / ICQ / IRC / MSN / YIM / 'whatever Rendezvous is called now' even though they don't have a native transport of their own. They even have a paid for version which I have actually spent money on.

So, it is not inconceivable that they will attempt to become a universal IM client aggregator and replace the competitors clients if not their networks...

wooyoo (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378916)

cant wait!

Video (4, Interesting)

datadriven (699893) | about 9 years ago | (#13378922)

Any chances for a linux client that does video?

video linux client? (1, Funny)

mnemonic_ (164550) | about 9 years ago | (#13378945)

No, sorry.

Re:Video (0)

A_Known_Coward (513453) | about 9 years ago | (#13379009)

Mod parent +5 Funny

Re:Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13379054)

Yes, look at gaim-vv

Revolutionary (1)

trevordactyl (908770) | about 9 years ago | (#13378928)

Even if Google Talk doesn't turn out to be revolutionary, Tinker said, "I don't think that matters." As much as I enjoy Gmail, and Google Maps, I feel like this statement is a bit ridiuclous. Gmail was the first instance that I was exposed to that felt like a very well-constructed desktop application over the web. And Google Maps, with the available API and easy navigation I also felt was somewhat revolutionary. Are we getting to the point where because we like their other products we don't expect anything from them? I think that's counter-productive.

Re:Revolutionary (2, Insightful)

NelsonM (906317) | about 9 years ago | (#13379026)

I agree. Google has really shown what you can do when you put the user first, especially with Google maps. Back when Mapquest was king, I hated looking directions up online and would rather get out an atlas, but Google has really made navigating maps online a breeze. Hopefully they bring their ease-of-use to the IM world.

Google Cliche'? (5, Interesting)

ZipprHead (106133) | about 9 years ago | (#13378932)

I wonder if Google will monitor what is being chatted about and throw up relevant banner ads.

With google trying to dominate searching, news, usenet, email and now chat? At what point in time will they become cliche'?

Beta (1)

kevin_conaway (585204) | about 9 years ago | (#13378937)

How about getting some of your current products out of beta and into production before putting out new stuff?

I was always taught to finish what you start...

Re:Beta (1)

Bitsy Boffin (110334) | about 9 years ago | (#13378986)

It's called "perpetual beta so that people can't complain if they find a bug, or we totally change stuff on a whim", avoids that whole "need for stability" thing quite nicely :)

Re:Beta (0)

avdp (22065) | about 9 years ago | (#13379114)

Their Beta stuff is lightyears better than at least one their competitor's Production stuff. I consider their Beta stuff to be Production quality and use it daily.

Gabber? (4, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | about 9 years ago | (#13378941)

If this rumor is true, and I run my own Jabber server, can my users connect through my server into Google's users? Are directory and filesharing services mergeable, to appear to my users like I'm part of Google (authentication, etc)? Which IM gateway that gets my users onto the most IM networks, with the largest aggregate user reach?

Google Talks? (2, Interesting)

KSobby (833882) | about 9 years ago | (#13378942)

Does the world need another IM client? Most geeks tend to use Jabber or Proteus (Mac) to consolidate all of their chat clients into one. Will a standalone really make much of a difference?

What happened to Google innovating and setting themselves apart? Suddenly they get an IPO and they feel they have to mimic the rest of the industry. If Google wants to be another Yahoo, MSN or AOL that's fine but I was really hoping for something new and different out there, not just a rehash of our current offerings with a cleaner UI. Clearly investors kill innovation.

Re:Google Talks? (1)

Bob Wehadababyitsabo (629809) | about 9 years ago | (#13379027)

Proteus is a terrible client when compared to Adium [adiumx.com] . Try it, you'll probably switch.

Re:Google Talks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13379036)

The article states that Google will use Jabber too. This seems bloody good news to me. That said, most geeks I know just use a multi-protocol client with native accounts. And, most geeks don't use macs... you seem a bit out of touch with reality.

Btw, AOL has made a deal with Jabber too recently, so maybe the open IM network will become true?

Re:Google Talks? (1)

SashaMan (263632) | about 9 years ago | (#13379094)

Clearly investors kill innovation

Bull. You know all those slashdot posts and buzz we hear about AJAX - that wouldn't be there (at least not now) without things like GMail and Google Suggest. The technology behind AJAX was around for years - it was only when Google created a truly innovative UI using it that people started to take notice.

Re:Google Talks? (1)

superstick58 (809423) | about 9 years ago | (#13379131)

Just because one of their "proposed" services is based on already existing applications does not mean there is no innovation. Google provides many cool new services that are arguably not quite new. Google maps was beat by mapquest, yet it is better in my opinion (google earth is new and very very cool). Gmail as a mail client is not a new innovation, yet the interface is better than most free e-mail providers out there. A IM client may not be new, but it all depends on how google implements it. They are good at putting a new spin on existing concepts(was google the first to do web search?) so I'd like to see what happens.

Google might launch tomorrow (4, Insightful)

jurt1235 (834677) | about 9 years ago | (#13378944)

And I just run into somebody on the street proclaiming that the world might fall to pieces tomorrow (actually claiming that the world will end tomorrow, and then asking for a donation. I failed to see the short term use of that donation, so I just wished him luck).

Anyway: Come back tomorrow and see if google really launched a IM. And if they do, then please not in google earth style or any other google windows only products. If they really want to play along with the big boys, they should make it crossplatform. It is what they owe their current status to!

Re:Google might launch tomorrow (1)

Assassin_for_Atari (691252) | about 9 years ago | (#13379115)

I agree!

If google made a cross plat IM applications that supports voice/vid I think it would do great. As it stands I hate running 3 to 4 different protocols under GAIM.

I currently run a small jabber server for my friends and I. So how sweet would it be if they have their client support both jabber and Google IM protocol (seeing that google doesn't use jabber..then ..it would of course support jabber :) )

I would be happy cause I would have a resource to send/rec voice and vid and also have my jabber support for my friends in our controled enviroment

Probably not true... (1)

Donniedarkness (895066) | about 9 years ago | (#13378948)

But if it is, I'm kicking AIM. Although I doubt it'll happen, as Google specifically said it wouldn't.

Re:Probably not true... (1)

LnxAddct (679316) | about 9 years ago | (#13379121)

yea, me too. Well actually I still have a bit of friends on AIM but I use Gaim which supports jabber, assuming Google is basing their service off of jabber. Something tells me that this instant messenger's main interface though is going to be web based. As far as video and audio streaming go, they've already got that covered with their video player, based on vlc, which does streaming and can play just audio. They've also recently released an update to their video player so it makes complete sense that they'd make a web based interface with all the functionality of a traditional client.
Regards,
Steve

talk.google.com redirect (-1, Redundant)

Eslyjah (245320) | about 9 years ago | (#13378949)

If you point your browser to talk.google.com, you get redirected to www.google.com/talk. Nothing there yet, but they wouldn't have put that redirect in place unless they were planning on setting it up.

Fail to see the point (4, Insightful)

Octagon Most (522688) | about 9 years ago | (#13378959)

This seems to be a throwback to the 1990's portal strategy of "stickiness." That is, trying to keep users in the offered services as long as possible in order to market to them. I would be more inclined to believe in a Google messaging system if it was designed around the concepts of search. Google can already offer search via any IM service using a bot to return results just as they do via SMS. Google Desktop can search IM logs from any client that saves logs in a text file. So what's the advantage of yet another IM service? Sure it might raise the profile of Jabber but I don't see that much helping the situation. Unless they are going to unveil some form of speech archiving and searching, I don't see what use this will be.

When they dominate Microsoft? (1)

stuffduff (681819) | about 9 years ago | (#13378964)

Since Microsoft needs enemies they have to foster competition in every sector they can. It's a living proof that they are not a monopoly. :^)

Google Already has an IM service... (0, Redundant)

singpolyma (454549) | about 9 years ago | (#13378965)

Hello [picasa.com] is an IM program in it's own right, owned and operated by Google.

Re:Google Already has an IM service... (1)

Qubit (100461) | about 9 years ago | (#13379024)

Hello is an IM program in it's own right, owned...

If only Apple's Bonjour was an IM protocol...

Why? AIM won't go away. (2, Insightful)

dividedsky319 (907852) | about 9 years ago | (#13378975)

I doubt you're going to get many people to switch from AIM.

The amount of users on AIM is the main pull to get it... If you want to talk to someone, most likely their IM program of choice is AIM. You're not going to switch, unless everyone you talk to switches as well... and I don't sense a mass exodus coming anytime soon.

Go to a college campus, and nearly everyone has a screen name on AIM... I know competition is good, but unless all these IM programs can talk amongst each other, I don't see anything overtaking AIM anytime soon.

Re:Why? AIM won't go away. (1)

TOWebstress (855727) | about 9 years ago | (#13379021)

How does Google continue to turn heads with most of their other projects? Innovation. If their product can out-perform AIM or MSN, then it too will turn the heads of the web savvy...and that includes students. Not saying that Google has this up their sleeve, but if they do, I don't doubt they will launch something with a twist or value-add for the users.

Re:Why? AIM won't go away. (1)

Bertie (87778) | about 9 years ago | (#13379033)

Not in Europe. I'm reliably informed MSN Instant Messenger's market share here is over 90%, compared to (I think) less than 50% in North America.

Re:Why? AIM won't go away. (1)

Troed (102527) | about 9 years ago | (#13379072)

... and the rest are using ICQ (since that's what we started with). AIM is, as far as I know (Sweden), totally unknown.

Re:Why? AIM won't go away. (1)

TERdON (862570) | about 9 years ago | (#13379116)

90%? Nah. You forget ICQ - it's still pretty big over here - I would guess > 10% at least, mostly consisting of techies though. But you do have a point - AIM is in the promille range in Europe...

Let me guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13378984)

One more beta product!

Why cannot software companies release products for wide
acceptance only when products are mature?

works like any other IM client (1)

toleransi (693306) | about 9 years ago | (#13379003)

...except it comes with an "I'm feeling lucky" option. What does that do?
Hint: don't use it unless you like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain...

Let's face it, current IM's don't cut it anymore. (1)

Scorpius-nl (827901) | about 9 years ago | (#13379012)

The current state op IM's used is not what a broad majority of people want. (atleast here in europe, where msn and in much lesser sense icq is used).

MSN is primarily targetted at people under the age of 20, with it's excessive use of winks/smiley's/etc. Also it runs on windows only.

ICQ seems to be dying because AOL is supporting it's own messenger first.

That leaves alot of open space for people who want a native cross platform clean messenger without too much bells and whistles. Google's abilities and broad acceptance might be the only one which can break the monopoly of MSN (and yahoo/aol in the US).

There is ofcourse also the clone messengers, but most of them are having their own issue's which make them unsuitable for mass usage.

Google keeps on truckin' (1)

mrn121 (673604) | about 9 years ago | (#13379014)

It looks like "Google Earth" isn't just mapping software; it is a corporate strategy.

I am starting to wonder if the two Google mottos -- "Don't Be Evil" and "Make Money" -- are being quietly switched in their ranking of importance.

Pushing (1)

gkozlyk (247448) | about 9 years ago | (#13379041)

I like the fact that for years we were pushed around by Microsoft and their products. Now someone else big is on the block and pushing back. Who knows, maybe this one can update itself without a reset.

Actually, the next big thing coming from Google is (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13379056)

... Google Payments. Seriously. I recently interviewed there and saw it on about a dozen whiteboards.

I totally trust you (-1)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | about 9 years ago | (#13379100)

ACs providing anecdotal evidence? How can I go wrong!

Wonder if this is why gmail is hosed (0)

Obsequious (28966) | about 9 years ago | (#13379058)

A lot of people (including me) have been reporting that gmail is down -- 500 internal server error (whereupon gmail pithily suggests you cross your fingers. In the immortal words of Donald Rumsfeld, this is "not helpful.")

Anyway, if they truly ARE lauching an IM service, then it would almost certainly be linked to gmail, and hey, guess what -- gmail is having problems.

Integration difficulties, maybe?

It's real: it's a Jabber server! (5, Informative)

YA_Python_dev (885173) | about 9 years ago | (#13379067)

This time is not a rumor!

Try it for yourself. Send a string like:

<stream:stream to='talk.google.com' xmlns='jabber:client' xmlns:stream='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams'>

to talk.google.com, port 5222. It will respond with a valid RFC 3920 [faqs.org] (Jabber) stream!

Re:It's real: it's a Jabber server! (0)

Obsequious (28966) | about 9 years ago | (#13379112)

NICE! Why didn't I think of trying that?

Hmm. Now I wonder if I can point GAIM at it and log in with my gmail address........

Re:It's real: it's a Jabber server! (1)

Obsequious (28966) | about 9 years ago | (#13379134)

Authentication process runs fine, right up until the end: "405: Not Allowed". So yeah, that is a full-on Jabber server.

Is there a difference between "Not Allowed" and "Bad password"? That message looks to me like it accepted my gmail username and password, but decided I'm not authorized to use the service.

Jabber has got features (1)

cies (318343) | about 9 years ago | (#13379075)

Jabber servers can have bridges (gateways [1]) to other IM networks. Currently all big IM networks can be reached this way. Not all without hassle, but it is possible.

iirc, iChat is also some sort of extention to the Jabber protocol.

I hope google will do this, based on a true OpenSource/Standard implementation. This will the hopefully take of big, like gmail did. And they will probably come up with a funky webinterface to it.

Still many are using hotmail/MSN in my country (holland) and i rather see these to things disappear.

[1] http://www.jabber.org/user/userguide/#usegateways [jabber.org]

The article says... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13379077)

...more people use yahoo messenger than MSN?

That can't possibly be right, can it?

H.

PS: I hope this is true. Would be interesting to see what spin the google think tanks can put on the IM front.

In other News -- Google Cap Up $Bn! (4, Informative)

shashark (836922) | about 9 years ago | (#13379084)

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/050823/markets_stocks_befo rethebell.html?.v=1 [yahoo.com] Google Inc. (GOOG) rose nearly 1 percent before the bell on Tuesday after the Los Angeles Times reported the Web search company will launch its own instant messaging system
Shares of Google rose $2.54 to $276.55 on the Inet electronic brokerage system, from a $2.74.01 close on Nasdaq.


Boy oh Boy, that's almost $1 BN ($0.767 BN to be exact) jump in market cap. Tin foil hats and Conspiracy theorists, jump right in.

FYI (1)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | about 9 years ago | (#13379133)

The symbol for "billion" is "G". I know it's somewhat confusing in this case ("G$? Is that Google currency?") but "BN" just looks reeeeeeeally odd.

If google sneezes.... (1)

Varun Soundararajan (744929) | about 9 years ago | (#13379101)

its big news.
Now i know how google is running at $274/share, and with PP ratio 120!
http://www.heavens-above.com/ [heavens-above.com] --Observe satellites that pass your place.

Sounds good to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13379106)

I would like a really popular IM based on jabber to happen. I see a lot of people asking why. If they have the bandwidth and want their name to get even more popular, why not?

GIMP? (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | about 9 years ago | (#13379108)

Google Instant Messenger Protocol? I think that name has been used already, so hopefully not...

Cover-Up (0)

Elitist_Phoenix (808424) | about 9 years ago | (#13379110)

This type of behaviour points to one possible thing, a coverup, possibly link to Roswell or the Kennedy assinination. Google is quite obviously in secret negotiations with the the american goverments leninism wing. Furthermore a new instant messenger client would be a sort of new enigma machine with which it could secretly communicate with the Kremlin, and thus lead to a second Cold War. Also using open source client further cemments the fact that they are not for the Red White and Blue only the Red. So in conlusion we all need to drag out our hammer and sickles and submit, because resistance is futile

I'll use it... (4, Insightful)

Tezprice (875643) | about 9 years ago | (#13379123)

I'll be happy to use it if it can connect to at least some of the established networks (e.g. MSN messenger).

I doubt many of my friends would go through the hassle of switching even if Google Talk turns out to be far superior; an IM program is little use without people to talk to.

Different? Why? (4, Insightful)

hritcu (871613) | about 9 years ago | (#13379124)

"Because the reality is, there's not a whole lot of difference between their search [engine] and anyone else's."
We don't need Google to be different then the other search engines, as long as it returns the most relevant results :)

Sounds Silly, but I wouldn't mind.. (5, Interesting)

caffeinex36 (608768) | about 9 years ago | (#13379129)

Sounds Silly, but I wouldn't mind a "Google Internet Suite" type thing, that had maybe a client that incorprated google desktop, picasa, IM and gmail as well as search all in one. maybe have some desktopish options like archiving locally some gmail, linking between photos/emails/IM's and files, would definitly be powerful.
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