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Windows 95 Turns 10

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the start-me-up dept.

Windows 790

ColdGrits writes "It's hard to believe it, but 10 short years ago today saw the launch of Windows '95. Here is an archive of the Washington Post's story on the day. As part of the launch, Microsoft paid $12,000,000 for the rights to use the Rolling Stones' song "Start Me Up" (containing the prophetic line 'You make a grown man cry'). "

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790 comments

Ahh, nostalgia... (5, Funny)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389165)


From TFA:
Analysts think this diligence will pay off. "The extraordinarily extensive testing they did makes a show-stopping bug a pretty unlikely occurrence," said Chuck Stegman, a vice president at Dataquest Inc., a high-tech market research firm in California. "Someone would have stumbled on it already."
This passage is especially amusing, since I gained most of my knowledge of Windows 95 through needing to reinstall it repeatedly on various systems.

Another gem from TFA:
But those customers expecting Windows 95 to be a great technological leap forward may be disappointed. International Business Machines Corp. and Apple Computer Inc. already have operating systems on the market that sport the features - greater memory management, the ability to perform several tasks at once and enhanced user-friendliness - now being hailed in Windows 95.

Big Blue has made some effort to counter Microsoft's media onslaught with ads that feature the names of companies that have relied on its OS/2 system for years. Yesterday, at corporate headquarters in Armonk, N.Y., IBM officials reiterated the virtues of its own time-tested product, and tried to ignore the festivities.

"Microsoft is delivering the same features we delivered seven years ago," said company spokesman Tim Breuer. "We're moving on business as usual here."
Yes...I vaguely recall IBM's OS/2...but Apple? No....I'm drawing a blank. ^_^

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389186)

Enough TMM, get a job... The perpetual first post thing is far past old...

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (2)

swid27 (869237) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389206)

Obivously, TFA was referring to A/UX.

Ahhh stupidity (2, Insightful)

Joe U (443617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389237)

Actually, that quote should read...

Microsoft is delivering the same features they developed for us seven years ago.

Who do you think WROTE OS/2?!?

Besides, NT was already out and gaining popularity during this timeframe.

...the same features we delivered seven years ago (4, Funny)

MarkEst1973 (769601) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389266)

Fast forward 10 years and what has changed?

The IE dev teams blogs (nay, boasts!) about tabbed browsing in IE7 -- saying nothing of the fact that tabs are years old.

MS brags and boasts about Monad, which is still vaporware, but it sure will be the best shell ever -- saying nothing of the fact that this has been available forever in *nix.

I'm sure we can come up with more. In the end, MS is very good at marketing. People just love their koolaid.

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389295)

I'm pretty sure System 7 was out by then...That wasn't multi-threaded from the ground up but it was running more than one app at a time. you're a faggot btw.

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389395)

7.5 had been out for over a year by then. I believe the pseudo-multitasking worked it's way into System 6 via the MultiFinder several years earlier...

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (2, Insightful)

geoffrobinson (109879) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389301)

In retrospect, it is amazing how long it took Microsoft to come out with those features relative to their competition. Inovators that they are.

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (5, Funny)

DannyO152 (544940) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389308)

Apple... IIRC a beleaguered Cupertino company. Didn't NeXT buy them out?

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (2, Informative)

ArielMT (757715) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389339)

No. NeXT was a venture of Steve Jobs after he left Apple the first time. After he returned to Apple, with NeXT a technological breakthrough but a commercial failure, it was Apple under Jobs' stewardship who bought out NeXT.

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (1)

ArielMT (757715) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389317)

Apple had released just a year or two prior to Win95 the much ballyhooed System 7.5, which finally supported multitasking through a much improved Finder interface, instead of relying on the duct-taped MultiFinder first appearing in System 6. Also, System 7.5 was the first version of Mac OS to support virtual memory, IIRC.

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (3, Insightful)

Tim Browse (9263) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389328)

and Apple Computer Inc. already have operating systems on the market that sport the features - greater memory management

While Windows 95 may have reduced the GDI resources problem of Windows 3.x, I hardly think anyone could credibly claim that Mac OS had good memory management before OS X.

Windows 95 Sucks MP3 - FUNNY! (2, Funny)

dsginter (104154) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389352)

Hilarious [emp3world.com]

Re:Ahh, nostalgia... (2, Interesting)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389353)

All I can say is thank you again OS/2! If Microsoft had not felt a real threat from OS/2 which at the time was starting to show some signs of life, if not on its own merits but its ability to run Windows apps more stably, Windows 95 would not have come out as it did. I don't know if a less rushed Windows 95 would have been better or not, but it is funny looking back to think that only now with Windows 2K and XP are there Windows desktop solutions that rival the ancient OS/2 in stability and features. Though I still miss the Workplace Shell.

I remember distinctly... (1)

sterno (16320) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389371)

I was in college at the time and Windows 95 had just come out. I was debating between using OS/2 Warp or Windows 95. I tried to go with OS/2 at first but I quickly ran into the realization that most of the apps I wanted to use were Windows apps.

Particularly problematic were Internet applications. OS/2 had some support for Windows binaries, but when it came down to running Navigator, etc, it just wasn't up to the task. So I ended up installing Windows 95. The rest is history.

Incidentally about two years after that, we received like 50 copies of OS/2 warp for free. We tried handing them out to people but nobody wanted it.

Blue Screen of Death (4, Funny)

bigwavejas (678602) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389170)

'You make a grown man cry'

How true... If those poor saps had only know what lie ahead.

20 years since spell checker invented (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389171)

Maybe CmdrBentTortilla should check into one.

Charlie don't surf and /. "Editors" don't edit (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389199)

You must be new here.

Re:20 years since spell checker invented (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389274)

Obviously talko is referring to the SRINGZ with 'sz': A purely Microsoft invention where an ASCII string is terminated with a null (0) bytes.

10 sort years? (3, Funny)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389172)

"10 sort years ago "

Maybe i am new here, but what other kind of year is there other than sort years

Re:10 sort years? (2, Funny)

JabberWokky (19442) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389303)

log years?

Or, of course leap years.

--
Evan

Re:10 sort years? (1)

SimilarityEngine (892055) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389336)

Don't forget donkeys' years... :-)

Windowsz? (2, Funny)

telstar (236404) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389177)

That's a new one...
I wonder when we'll see Lindowsz....

yadda yadda (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389179)

The Slashdot Project was our last, best hope for unbiased news.

It failed.

But in the year of the Linux War, it became something greater: our last, best hope - for blinding stupidity.

Grow up Taco...Windowsz?

Re:yadda yadda (0)

JLyle (267134) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389223)

The Slashdot Project was our last, best hope for unbiased news.
Well, you can't always get what you want.

Re:yadda yadda (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389291)

Yeah, but ..if you try sometime you find
You get what you need

Re:yadda yadda (1)

wiggles (30088) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389320)

What video game was that quote from? Crystalis? This is killing me.

Re:yadda yadda (1)

Joe U (443617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389363)

I think it's a mangled intro to Bablyon 5.

Re:yadda yadda (1)

ArielMT (757715) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389375)

Yes, it's supposed to be a play the third season's opener: Point of No Return.

Re:yadda yadda (1)

wiggles (30088) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389394)

Ahh, yes. Yet another show I always meant to get in to but never had the time...
 
Thanks!

Re:yadda yadda (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389365)

It's from Babylon 5's opening credits.

Re:yadda yadda (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389337)

Um, yes. More correctly that'd be "the Linux® War". By using Windowz he isn't in fact using the Windows® trademark.

Yes, lets all talk about blinding stupidity...

Linux® is the registered trademark of Linus
Torvalds in the U.S. and other countries.

Windows is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and other countries."
 

Spell Check (2, Informative)

r0d3nt (185166) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389187)

What's a sort year? And what's this Windowsz 95 thing?

Re:Spell Check (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389373)

Hey, shouldn't this be a Timmy / Roland story by-line? I feel cheated.

Another propethic line (5, Funny)

TrentL (761772) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389189)

"You make a grown man cry."

Well, if it could make a "dead man come" [lyricsfreak.com] , that would be really special.

Re:Another propethic line (4, Funny)

Y-Crate (540566) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389323)

"Well, if it could make a "dead man come", that would be really special."

That's reserved for Windows Vista: Keith Richards Edition.

Obligatory (4, Funny)

BubbleSparkxx (879715) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389192)

...and in further news, windows 2000 is now 5 years old.

Re:Obligatory (3, Funny)

justforaday (560408) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389205)

But I thought ME was 5 years old...So confused...

Windows Vista too! (1)

Eric_Cartman_South_P (594330) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389270)

Windows Vista is going to be 1 soon! Happy Birthday Mac OSX Tiger!

Re:Obligatory (2, Funny)

nine-times (778537) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389324)

Well I'll be...

Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that Office 2000 is also 5 years old, that Windows 98 is 7 years old, or that Office 97 has been around for 8 years now. Ok, smart guy, how long has Office 2003 been out?

Windows 95. (3, Insightful)

JavaLord (680960) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389193)

While I'm sure many people here will make jokes about Windows 95, it was quite a leap in stability and usablility from windows 3.1. I don't think windows has had such an upgrade since then, nor do I think Vista will be that much of an improvment over XP/2000.

Re:Windows 95. (3, Insightful)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389241)

actually, 2000 was a huge leap over 98 and NT as far as plug and play and sheer useability goes, that was the best version of windows. None of the playskool grabage from XP and better security(i am talking to you, logging in as admin on boot). It telling when you notice that it has been 6 years since a decent version of windows was released.

Re:Windows 95. (2, Insightful)

Zarhan (415465) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389263)

No, it was not. Windows 9x still has lots of 16-bit legacy stuff in it. The true leap was Windows NT 3.1 - Where NT 4.0 updated the user interface to Explorer.

Re:Windows 95. (2, Informative)

hal9000(jr) (316943) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389269)

Windows 95, it was quite a leap in stability and usablility from windows 3.1. I don't think windows has had such an upgrade since then

Huh? *cough* Windows 2000 *cough*

Much more stable that Win 95, far fewer requirements to reinstall, use of ring 0, ring 3 seperation , better memory management, NTFS and encrypted file system. (yeah, I know, many of these features started in NT, but NT isn't comparable to a desktop OS like Win 95, not even NT Workstation)

Re:Windows 95. (4, Informative)

Paleomacus (666999) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389282)

Actually, for me windows 3.1 was pretty stable and usable. Win95 was unstable and I pretty much had to fix it as much as use it. However, WinXP actually works well most of the time, doesn't easily break, and I can do pretty much all of the same things on it as I can on any other modern OS.

Re:Windows 95. (2, Interesting)

xtracto (837672) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389369)

I agree, I remember installing those win32s extensions to Win 3.11 to be able to use Get right and other programs in order to continue using it. I really didn't like Win 95, as the requirements where terrible for what I thought was only the application that was meant to launch other applications...

Something I have found really interesting since the win 3.1 to win 9x migration is that it seems everyone loved and loves the innovative Win9x menu set-up, and I REALLY hate it, having to click in the start and then programs and then Accessories and then and then and then... until I get to the program I want to run... and of course there are those users that after installing the 5124nth application, it takes like 2 minutes to display the programs in the start menu...

Personally I liked more the Program Manager approach. Nowadays I have my main tool bar with 6 folders (Office, Unix, Internet, Utilities, Viewers, Programming) with drop down capabilities, and also in the "quick start" menu I have the programs I use a lot (web browser, Latex editor, notepad, calc, winamp, etc).

And, of course I also HATE the people that let their desktop be crowded by tons of icons... you really can not find anything there so it is counter intuitive...

Re:Windows 95. (3, Insightful)

Mr_Silver (213637) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389286)

While I'm sure many people here will make jokes about Windows 95, it was quite a leap in stability and usablility from windows 3.1. I don't think windows has had such an upgrade since then, nor do I think Vista will be that much of an improvment over XP/2000.

Well, pointed out. In terms of feature change as seen by a user (not developer) I think it must be:

  1. 3.1 to 95
  2. 95 to 2000
  3. 2000 to XP
  4. 95 to 98
Mind you, having looked at that now, I'm not sure whether 3 and 4 are the right way around. I never saw versions of windows less than 3.0 to be able to comment.

Anyone else care to fill in the rest/correct me? How would it look if you just concentrated on functionality for developers rather than users?

I disagree: The 9x to NT kernel was a huge upgrade (1)

brokeninside (34168) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389321)

I think that the move from the 9X code base to the NT code base was at least as big of a leap as from the 3.x codebase to the 9x codebase. Granted, the leap seems more evolutionary because of the NT 3.1 -> 4.0 -> 2000 chain, but for most people, the transition was from 95 or 98 -> 2000. This leap was tremendous, even if the UI seemed to stay largely the same.

That said, I do agree that XP is not that large of a change from 2000. Nor does it look like Vista will be that large of a change from XP. At one point, it may have been. But they've taken quite a bit of the innovative features out of Vista. Of course, I don't necessarily know that this is a bad thing. There is something to be said for marginal improvements. My only complaint with Vista is the relative speed at which the marginal change is happening.

Re:Windows 95. (3, Insightful)

Lagged2Death (31596) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389381)

Usability, maybe, the Win3.x UI, with the strange Program Manager / File Manager duality, wasn't anything to be proud of.

Stability, though? It wasn't my experience that Win95 was stable at all. In fact, where Win3.x was at least learnably-unstable (you would learn that certain applications or actions were likely to crash or to crash Windows) Win95 was randomly-unstable, crashing in non-repeatable, unexplainable ways.

Windows Workstation NT 4.0 was the first Microsoft OS I used that could function as a desktop system for weeks at a time without crashing. I think that was the big leap forward in stability.

Re:Windows 95. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389399)

As a gamer who was in my early/mid teens at the time, my Dad deciding to install Windows 95 on the family PC was pretty much an unmitigated disaster for me at the time.

The vast majority of the games I played extensively, which were "high end" games from the end of the DOS era, just refused to run under 95 at all. I'm thinking here of the likes of Strike Commander, TIE Fighter Collector's CD, Privateer and Ultima 8. My carefully collected library of boot disks, designed to give me the optimum DOS memory configuration for various games, was obsolete and it took me weeks of prodding before I could get a majority of them working again in Win95's DOS mode. A couple, like Ultima 7, I never actually managed (I wasn't actually able to play this again until Exult reached a reasonable state).

Of course, a couple of years later, when the games I played had moved on, I never actually looked back at all to the DOS days. Overall, the teething problems in making the transition were well worth the fact that I never had to mess around juggling conventional, expanded and extended memory for a new game again. Of course... don't even get me started with graphics card and VIA 4-in-1 drivers...

I just installed Linuxz (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389202)

it rocksz. lolz!

the nightmares are coming back... (4, Funny)

pstreck (558593) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389204)

Can't believe it's been 10 years since I attempted to do a seamless upgrade on my p90... Ah yes. I must truly thank M$ for releasing it though, because without w95 I would have never sought out linux.

Re:the nightmares are coming back... (3, Interesting)

dan dan the dna man (461768) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389344)

Hmm yes, 1995 was also my year of conversion to Linux. Never assumed it was anything to do with the release of Windows 95, more like all the tools I needed to work on my PhD were UNIX based, and I wanted practice.

As I recall Linux wasn't *particularly* easy to install at the time ;) Those were the days where I knew the figures for my hard drive geometry off the top of my head, now I couldn't even tell you which manufacturer made them. The difference 10 years makes!

Tonight on Action News! (5, Funny)

mapmaker (140036) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389212)

Our top story: 1995 was ten years ago! Also, 2+2=4. Details at 11.

Re:Tonight on Action News! (3, Funny)

gowen (141411) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389297)

Details at 11.
Or "23-12" as we like to call it.

Re:Tonight on Action News! (1)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389338)

Richard Stallman refutes!

"2+2 = 5 if software is free," he said.

We were all excited because..... (1)

ip_freely_2000 (577249) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389214)

...WFW 3.11 was such a dog. Turns out we traded one dog for another.

Man, we were so stupid back then. Accepting vendor lies like it was gospel. Wait a minute......

Windowsz? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389215)

Did I accidentally run Slashdot through the l33t filter?

launch song for longhorn (1)

garvald (547907) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389217)

from coldplay's X&Y album: FIX YOU ;)

Re:launch song for longhorn (1)

NetPoser (266960) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389277)

ROFLZs

Re:launch song for longhorn (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389347)

Didn't the lead singer for Coldplay die once he realized he was just an even wussier version of Radiohead's Thom Yorke?

Here's every Coldplay song, ever:

I HOPE SOME GIRL WILL LOVE ME, BECAUSE I'M A HUGE PANSY

Re:launch song for longhorn (1)

R.D.Olivaw (826349) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389361)

good one, let's get votes for the vista launch song
I recommend 'Alone I break' by Korn

If Windows95 made you cry (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389222)

you weren't tough enough to handle Slackware's 50-floppy installation.

Marketing (1)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389224)

Just goes to show that Microsoft excels in marketing more than it does in the creation of operating systems.

Oh, to be a time traveller and go back 10 years before the Windows 95 release....

Re:Marketing (1)

MarkEst1973 (769601) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389376)

Oh, to be a time traveller and go back 10 years before the Windows 95 release....

Yeah, I'd buy lots and lots of MSFT.

Stones song (0, Redundant)

Mobile Unit of the G (862058) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389225)

Don't forget... "You make a dead man come".

(Not a G-rated comment, but neither was the song.)

I feel old... (0)

edo_tokyo (841174) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389230)

I can't believe it'sz been that long

Interesting Lines (2, Interesting)

ragingtory (833483) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389231)

Oh how right he was...

"I think the hype has been excessive," said Philip Kotler, a professor of marketing at the Kellogg Graduate School of Management at Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill. "If there are bugs in this program, or if the extra performance doesn't deliver substantial benefits, this could be a disaster."

Its older than that (4, Interesting)

MajorDick (735308) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389246)

I was running Windows 95 Beta (And Alpha's) for a year and half before its release, and running them EXCLUSIVLEY.

I have one of the Alpha disks around ( one that was distributed within MS that I am 90% sure dates to 93, and I have one that dates to 1/1/94, I always will remeber that one because I thought shit these guys are working on NEW YEARS ????

14 1.44 floppy's (for the upgrade if I remeber right (maybe 13). The sad part was the last RC I got was SUBSTANTIALLY more stable than the Initial release was

I actually reverted to it until it expired
It was explaine to me by a buddy at MS (the one who got me the Alpha's and the Beta's , it was driver issues, that I wouldnt doubt, but it sure beat the HELL out of Windows 3.1

Re:Its older than that (1)

MajorDick (735308) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389300)

THe "Weakest" hardware I ever ran it on was a 386 16mhz with a 20 meg MFM Hard Drive and 4 megs of ram, it took nearly and hour to boot, I was bored and had the HW so I tried it, talk about a brebones system even minesweeper and sol were removed to make the install fly.

Job ads (4, Funny)

macdaddy357 (582412) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389249)

Back when that dinosaur OS was the current thing, I used to see want ads in the information systems section of newspapers demanding ten years of experience in Windows 95. Back then, they had not dont their math, but now, there are a few people who can actually answer that ad!

And 10 years of... (3, Funny)

sarlos (903082) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389253)

...lost productivity from Solitaire and Minesweeper. Yeah, it was in earlier versions, but Windows 95 made it even easier...

Re:And 10 years of... (1)

wed128 (722152) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389357)

Not really. In windows 3.1 you clicked on the "games" group in program manager. In 95, you clicked on the "games" group in explorer. Not much easier.

Re:And 10 years of... (1)

sarlos (903082) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389380)

Windows 3.1 was a pain to run and most people I know who used a system running it in the office had stripped down shells... Or just had the software they needed loaded up automagically and the Windows 3.1 shell was never loaded. In Windows 95, by default you were in the graphical shell unless you specifically told it to reboot to DOS. So... Solitaire and Minesweeper were more accessible because you were always working from within windows.

Speaking of the Stones... (5, Funny)

Cletus the yokel (462083) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389268)

Rumour has it they've been tapped again for the Windows Vista launch. The new theme song?

"Under My Thumb".

*ba-dump-bump-ting!*

Re:Speaking of the Stones... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389318)

Nice try, but you are mistaken. Microsoft will indeed be raiding the Stones' catalog for the Vista launch, but the song they will be using is:

Sympathy for the Devil

I remember those days... (1)

Shamashmuddamiq (588220) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389276)

...I realized that I could finally use my ethernet connection in my dorm room without having to trick the network into thinking I was using a 32-bit operating system (using Trumpet Winsock).

Microsoft was still using FAT16 at this time, which meant that the cluster size was 32kB if you had a "large" disk (600 MB) and nearly half your disk space was wasted if you had lots of small files. It wasn't until Windows 98 that Microsoft advertised the revolutionary new filesystem (FAT32) that would reclaim that space for you.

About a year later, I started using Linux primarily.

$0.12 a copy (2, Interesting)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389281)

So, if you consider that Microsoft shipped 100 million copies [asiaweek.com] of Windows 95 in its first three years, that works out to $0.12 per copy for the song rights. Of course you could argue that the 12 cents could have been better-directed towards bug fixes, but it's not a lot of cash in the whole scheme of things.

Mock it if you will, but... (4, Insightful)

DesScorp (410532) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389285)

...Windows 95, despite all it's many flaws, was a lot of fun. It was stupidity to use it in a situation requiring stability, but as a gaming platform and all around PC OS, it was great to have at the time. Especially with the freeware that became rapidly available, it was a big laboratory for computer users. Remember, MS didn't have an app for everything back then, so if you needed one, you bought it or sought it out on the freeware sites. Though I'd used Unix in school, my first exposure to IRC was on Win 95, and I relied on the freeware IRC clients to learn. Same with the utilities and such.

I'd never owned an Apple, so I can't speak to what it was like to use one back then (were they using, what, system 6 at the time? I don't remember...), but while XP is more reliable, and I get a tremedous sense of "do it yourself" satisfaction with Linux (my primary laptop OS), I don't think I'll ever have as much pure fun as I did playing around with Win 95 when it first came out, warts and all.

it's not dead.. it's a pity (1)

Transcendor (907201) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389289)

Mots comments from /.ers I've read so far sound like:
If they HAD known, but 3.1 was worse, it was a pain in the ass
That made me eat my heart out: I'm still administrating several 95er machines of people who didn't make it to a machine which could run win2k or XP. I'm gathering win98 licences to stock those up. But for me at last, the 95 era isn't over.
(The first thing I've made after buying myself a new PC however was installing Debian. I wouldn't stand one more installation without internet access, German keyboard config and so. Ah and I couldn't stand windows98.)
so- this is not the past, it's not a nightmare. IT'S HELL ON EARTH.
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eat my heart out [linklike.de.vu]

Ah yes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389293)

At that time I was a DOS-head and I hated, nay, LOATHED Windows 3.11. I only got into it to use Ami Pro but would quick exit out of Windows when I was done. I bought the Windows 95 upgrade at Sears after I got a chance to play with it on the display machines. Wedged it onto my Packard Bell that had a 200 MB or so hard drive and 4 MB of RAM (which I upgraded to 8 a few months later when SIMMs went on sale for $200).

I never ran Windows 95 (2, Interesting)

nurhussein (864532) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389299)

I never did. My 486 computer (with 8MB RAM) came with Win3.11 and DOS6.2, and most of the time I had Windows turned off. It was just distasteful how much resources it wasted to make the thing "pretty".

When Win95 was launched it heralded an age of "user-friendliness", which to me sounded too much like "dumb-downness". And besides, the system boasted features that were useless to me (Autoplay? Who cares! I know how to run things in my CDROM).

I boycotted Windows95. I never ran it. Of course I had to give in at one point, when most software required the new Win32. But that was in 2000, when I started using...Win98. And Linux. And finding that I spend more time in Linux day by day.

Now I use Linux as my primary OS, with a Win98 partition which I still keep around for games (works well enough for that - I think of it as a massive shared library required for games). But then again, I don't even play games that much any more.

Win 95 (4, Interesting)

CSHARP123 (904951) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389307)

But those customers expecting Windows 95 to be a great technological leap forward may be disappointed. International Business Machines Corp. and Apple Computer Inc. already have operating systems on the market that sport the features - greater memory management, the ability to perform several tasks at once and enhanced user-friendliness - now being hailed in Windows 95.


This is same as today. Windows 95 came, all the features that were there were all available in Apple's OS. Today, Vista will be released soon, Vista's features are already available in Apple's OS. But who do you think will make the money?

Oh, for the days of a $90 OS (1)

CorporalKlinger (871715) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389319)

How I long for the days when a premiere operating system cost just $90... thank goodness for Linux. As more distributions of Linux appear and competition against Microsoft from the "free" camp grows, you would think they would cut the prices on their own software to compete. Unfortunately, as with most things, Microsoft is being backwards with their pricing scheme too.

Just installed it (1)

ixb9142 (40567) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389322)

I just installed Windows 95 last weekend on my P233 w/ 128MB of memory. It runs great, I've got IE 5.5 and even VNC so I can connect to it from anywhere. I'm surprised I ever felt I needed an upgrade.

Awww... I'm feeling all nostalgic (1)

Mikey Rowan (890208) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389325)

I'm feeling all nostalgic now. A song from my yoof as a Windows 95 child. Gotta find out who sings this...

*Toots on kazoo*

(To the tune of Jingle Bells)

Oh Microsoft, Microsoft,
Bloatware all the way!
I've sat here installing word since breakfast yesterday,
Oh Microsoft, Microsoft,
Moderation please!
If you haven't noticed,
Four gig drives don't grow on treeeeeeeees!

Happy tenth Windoze!

price scam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13389326)

It's hard to believe also, at least to me, the price of the win95 upgrade never seemed to decrease! Even 3-4 years after its release, I was still seeing the upgrade priced at about $90.

O the horror (5, Funny)

tsa (15680) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389327)

I remember there were stories about people buying Win 95 who didn't even have a computer. Unbelievable. How can people not have a computer?

Yep, there I was... (2, Funny)

MasT3quila (836268) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389330)

standing in line at the local egghead software at midnight to get my copy. Ended up getting Office, Plus, and an ergo keyboard too. Marketing people love guys like me. lol.

memories... (1)

dimsm (137549) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389332)

i cried most for OS/2 warp...
OS/2 ruled during that time I think, so we should now blame Rolling Stones' maybe?

More to come... (5, Funny)

DrIdiot (816113) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389333)

2008: 10 year anniversary of Windows 98
2010: 10 year anniversary of Windows Me
2011: 10 year anniversary of Windows XP
1015: 20 year anniversary of Windows 95
2020: 20 year anniversary of Windows Me
....

WTF? (1)

sinserve (455889) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389334)

Windowsz 95? Is that the localized Polish edition of Windows 95?

Lion King (1)

AmmielLoDebar (822682) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389341)

I have that damn CD!! Of course, I was only 5 at the time...... :D

Another song (1)

Chemisor (97276) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389346)

Anyone remember that music video that came on the Windows 95 CD? I always wondered who they were, and what that cute woman's name was...

Re:Another song (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389398)

Weezer - Buddy Holly. Is the only one i remember.

Ahhh Memories (1)

Thrymm (662097) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389349)

Of my beloved Packard Bell P75 running 3.11 for Workgroups with hardly ever crashing..... to upgrading to Win 95 and being introduced to the Blue Screen of Death and even worse happenings of Plug and Pray! I think I still spent most of my time in Dos with Dark Forces and Duke3d.

Start me Up (4, Funny)

vargasmas (774178) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389358)

If you start me up
If you start me up I'll never stop
If you start me up
If you start me up I'll never stop
I've been running hot
You got me ticking gonna blow my top
If you start me up
If you start me up I'll never stop

You make a grown man cry
Spread out the oil, the gasoline
I walk smooth, ride in a mean, mean machine
Start it up

If you start it up
Kick on the starter give it all you got, you got,
you got I can't compete with the riders in the other heats If you rough it up
If you like it you can slide it up, slide it up

Don't make a grown man cry
My eyes dilate, my lips go green
My hands are greasy
She's a mean, mean machine
Start it up

If start me up
Give it all you got
You got to never, never, never stop
Never, never
Slide it up

You make a grown man cry
Ride like the wind at double speed
I'll take you places that you've never, never seen
Start it up
Love the day when we will never stop, never stop
Never stop, never stop
Tough me up
Never stop, never stop, never stop

You, you, you make a grown man cry
You, you make a dead man come
You, you make a dead man come


Can anyone figure out what the hell Microsoft Marketing was thinking when they selected this song?

This version is better (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389377)

When I bought it up brought Windows home and tried to boot it up. But when I load it up, it says my memory is not enough. I'll be runnin' out I need some extra RAM to fix it up I have to cough it up Open my wallet up - it never stops never stops ... This is Windows 95 It's sucking up my drive It makes a Pentium fly But my PC is obsolete I'll have to buy myself a brand new machine Stick me up You suck me in and then you got me hooked There is so much stuff to buy I need a new hard drive It's gonna suck me dry My 386 don't have the speed It takes an hour just to bring it up the screen Oh, no, I'm making software buys It's making B*ll G*tes come Yo, you make a rich man come...

The next big thing (1)

wandazulu (265281) | more than 8 years ago | (#13389396)

I don't know about anyone else, but my take on win95 was one thing...the interface. Plumbing aside, it was *new* and *different* and made it seem like the first real step to LCARS and all the space age stuff that we always imagined would be common place by the year 2001.

I remember that I had a box at the university that ran a version of Linux, and its interface was basically the same as win3.1 as everything else was at the time...Motif. Win95 seemed like such a radical change (at first), plus the growing realization about the internet, computers in general, and it felt like a good time to be in the tech industry. Thus I've always used this day, 10 years ago, as the beginning of the tech bubble, ending with the conviction of microsoft in 2000.

The sad thing is, when I saw NextStep, I was *really* looking at the future, and didn't realize it. I'm shocked at how much ooh'ing and ahh'ing I did over NextStep, which I actually didn't do with Win95, and didn't think that the world should be moving this way. Eh, maybe it was the black and white screen. Oh well.
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