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Terabyte DVD Recorder Available Next Month

samzenpus posted about 9 years ago | from the a-fistful-of-movies dept.

Technology 246

It doesn't come easy writes "Japan's Hitachi Ltd. on Wednesday unveiled the world's first hard disk drive/DVD recorder that can store one terabyte of data, or enough to record about 128 hours of high-definition digital broadcasting."

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"1 TB (4, Funny)

VeganBob (888165) | about 9 years ago | (#13396357)

...should be enough for anyone." - Robert M. Baldwin

Re:"1 TB (1, Insightful)

Crixus (97721) | about 9 years ago | (#13396382)

It definitely should be enough for anyone.

I use my 6 hour VHS recorder to record the one or two shows per week that I bother to watch (when I have the time) and that's plenty.

If it isn't enough space (or time) for the user, then I suspect it's because the user is lazy and spoiled.

Re:"1 TB (1, Insightful)

PingPongBoy (303994) | about 9 years ago | (#13396535)

"bother to watch"

Isn't entertainment so troublesome? I mean, we could have such fulfilling lives if civilization wasn't being constantly rammed down our throats.

Re:"1 TB (5, Funny)

1u3hr (530656) | about 9 years ago | (#13396564)

Isn't entertainment so troublesome? I mean, we could have such fulfilling lives if civilization wasn't being constantly rammed down our throats.

Civilisation? I thought we were talking about television.

Re:"1 TB (1)

karnal (22275) | about 9 years ago | (#13397007)

I built a Sagetv box recently, and let me tell you - even if you only "tape" a few shows a week, a PVR is a godsend.

I can pause live tv now. I can look for shows by name, not just by index markers (that incidentally take 30 seconds or so to cue on tape - if you're lucky...) I can record more than one show at a time, since I have 2 tuners (family guy and criminal intent are on at the same time).

I stuck with a VCR for quite some time, but now, I can watch what I want, when I want. I can even burn the shows to DVD, or play them in another room on another PC. It does indeed change how you watch TV, even if you don't watch it more than once a week.

Re:"1 TB (1)

Council (514577) | about 9 years ago | (#13396481)

"1 TB
...should be enough for anyone." - Robert M. Baldwin

Just for the sake of someone finally saying this and being right:

10^10^10 bytes should be enough for anyone.

Anyone care to argue?

Re:"1 TB (1)

jekk (15278) | about 9 years ago | (#13396515)

How are you grouping that?

(10^10)^10

or

10^(10^10)

?

Re:"1 TB (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396530)

The first. You always do the operations in order from left to right.

Though, the second would be pretty hefty too.

Re:"1 TB (1)

PingPongBoy (303994) | about 9 years ago | (#13396568)

Let me introduce y'all to a newfangled style of mathematics called ultrafinitism [wikipedia.org] where infinity is just not cool. The first Skewes' number is e^(e^(e^79)). It kind of gives you an idea of how much storage you need to process certain quantities of things.

Plankt time and discrete infinitessimals. (1)

crovira (10242) | about 9 years ago | (#13396776)

5.391 × 10 -44 seconds is the smallest amount of time. The clock-tick of the universe.

Re:"1 TB (2, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 9 years ago | (#13396528)

Just tried ...
#include <iostream>
#include <ostream>
 
int main()
{
  std::cout << (10^10^10) << " bytes should be enough for anyone.\n";
}
Sorry, 10 bytes are not enough for me!

SCNR

Re:"1 TB (1)

evanism (600676) | about 9 years ago | (#13396567)

dont know about you but I only need 640 k.

First cubic polynomial post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396358)

1000000000000 bytes
128 hours
1 cubic polynomial post

1000000000000, 128 and 1 are the zeroes of

x^3 - 1000000000129x^2 + 129000000000128x - 128000000000000
--polynomial_zeroes [slashdot.org]

Example of typical open source code quality.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396359)

404 File Not Found
The requested URL (hardware/05/08/24/2316245.shtml?tid=126&tid=137) was not found.

If you feel like it, mail the url, and where ya came from to pater@slashdot.org.

It's funny because it's true

And it costs... (1, Interesting)

VFVTHUNTER (66253) | about 9 years ago | (#13396361)

...230,000 yen, ~= $2100. For $2100, I can build my own damn recorder.

Re:And it costs... (2, Funny)

NickCatal (865805) | about 9 years ago | (#13396407)

I got one [wikipedia.org] for about $15 bucks back in Elementary School. Probably have it somewhere around the house.

Re:And it costs... (1, Funny)

axialtilt (899743) | about 9 years ago | (#13396437)

1 million dollars....mwhahaha

Re:And it costs... (5, Interesting)

welshwaterloo (740554) | about 9 years ago | (#13396476)

For $2100, I can build my own damn recorder.

*sigh* Yes. We know. We know that for that price, many ./'s could roll their own, but we don't have to hear that every darn time. Because every darn time that means some sucker like me has to point out that they're not marketing the product to you. They're marketing to money-rich, time-poor folks who don't want to build their own, they want to splash down the cash for something that just *works*.

It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco!
I really could go on all day here..

Re:And it costs... (0, Redundant)

VFVTHUNTER (66253) | about 9 years ago | (#13396563)

And your point is?

Rolling (er...growing) your own eggs and tobacco requires quite a bit of time, plus you have to feed the chicken (or maintain the tobacco), so you don't get a lot of return on investment. With a budget of $2100, 30 minutes on zipzoomfly, and 3 hours for assembly once fedex shows up, one can build a box with infinitely more capabilites than what they're offering here, and without any DRM.

Further, what are you going to do when your black box that "just works" "just breaks?" Buy another one at $2100? I'll just replace the broken component and be on my way.

Beginning to see my point now? And if you don't like reading what us "/.'s" have to say, why waste time posting?

Re:And it costs... (1)

smithcl8 (738234) | about 9 years ago | (#13396611)

It's not what "us /.'s" have to say, it's what of of you have to say.

$2100 is a freakin' drop in the bucket for any company in the world. In a few years, it will be cheap enough for everyone to buy at Circuit City, but until then, companies can shed these nickels for something this big.

/.'s like you live in a world of pathetically cheap computer geeks....the rest of us live in the real world.

Re:And it costs... (1)

VFVTHUNTER (66253) | about 9 years ago | (#13396680)

In a few years, it will be cheap enough for everyone to buy at Circuit City, but until then, companies can shed these nickels for something this big.

The device in question is being marketed to consumers. So this $2100 behemoth is already being sold to consumers, most likely at the Japanese version of Circuit City. Contrast that to the couple of hundred people spend on Tivo's.

You know, some people like to read the articles before posting about them.

But then again, you are wiser than me. You apparently get your employer to pay for your home electronics equipment, and even more impressive, you can divine my social and financial status from reading a few sentences that I have written.

Re:And it costs... (1)

welshwaterloo (740554) | about 9 years ago | (#13396715)

erm.. With respect, you're reiterating your point. If you'd like an argument I'd happily oblige, but let me merely reiterate what I was trying to say:

We know. We know many of us can build it cheaper, better, faster ourselves. It's therefore redundant to tell us all.

Re:And it costs... (0, Flamebait)

VFVTHUNTER (66253) | about 9 years ago | (#13396954)

Ya know, I was just gonna not respond back to you because I see what you're saying...but my comment is already at -1, it's a slow work day, and in addition to the fact that I just don't care, I'm really disapponited at the level of stupidity here on /. lately, so here goes:

You responded to my post to call me out on the fact that I was reiterating what I was saying. You followed that by first telling me that you were going to reiterate, and then reiterating, your point. WTF?

Re:And it costs... (1)

RMH101 (636144) | about 9 years ago | (#13396800)

So 3 1/2 hours later, you'll have a 1TB device that your mother could use? I doubt it somehow.

Re:And it costs... (1)

VFVTHUNTER (66253) | about 9 years ago | (#13396902)

Hardly conclusive, since my mother can't use the standard DVD player I got her for Christmas a few years ago:

Her: "Can you come by tonight?"

Me: "Sure. Why?"

Her: "I got the Ladder 49 DVD last week, and I want you to play it for me"

Me: "sigh"


So I think a TIVO is really out of the question for her. If you want further proof, consider that while I was there, I showed her that when she's sending email in OE, and she wants to start a new line after she types Dear Name, all she has to do is hit enter.

It's a sad, silly story, but you *did* ask.

Re:And it costs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396581)

Don't forget that it's X USD (or yen or whatever) in parts, then you have to put it all together... which will take quite a lot of time if you haven't done it before... and if you've done it before it'll still take a lot of time since you're experimenting with casings etc... then add you spending time experimenting with the software... adjusting... upgrading... finding bugs... killing bugs... reinstalling the software...

Even at 5-10 USD an hour you might get up way beyond what it costs to buy a working product.

Re:And it costs... (1)

Mister Impressive (875697) | about 9 years ago | (#13396648)

And these people with little time are somehow going to get the time to watch a terabyte of video? While you're certainly right in Toshiba aiming at the rich, aiming at the demographic with little time probably isn't something Toshiba is doing with this particular product...

Re:And it costs... (5, Funny)

clickety6 (141178) | about 9 years ago | (#13396711)



It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco!


yeah, it's like telling a hooker - "$100 for sex for that money I could... errr... errr... OK, here's the 100 bucks"

Maybe she's worth it, (-1, Flamebait)

crovira (10242) | about 9 years ago | (#13396843)

but am I?

Really, how much am I going to enjoy it more than a $250.00/hour hooker?

Oh, I just reread. $100, not $1,000. For $100, I'd question her qualifications. (Actually I wouldn't touch her with a borrowed dick.)

Never mind...

Re:And it costs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396988)

> yeah, it's like telling a hooker

T-Shirt wisdom 101:
"most of my money I spent on booze and women, the rest I just wasted."

Re:And it costs... (1, Funny)

lcsjk (143581) | about 9 years ago | (#13396738)

For $2100, I can build my own damn recorder.

Build your own

It don't work.

You say "Damn Recorder!"

Re:And it costs... (0)

kabocox (199019) | about 9 years ago | (#13396821)

*sigh* Yes. We know. We know that for that price, many ./'s could roll their own, but we don't have to hear that every darn time. Because every darn time that means some sucker like me has to point out that they're not marketing the product to you. They're marketing to money-rich, time-poor folks who don't want to build their own, they want to splash down the cash for something that just *works*.

Reminds me of my car problems. I had a hose, and some other things that needed to be replaced. I have a brother-in-law that usually does that. He says the price of each of the pieces is $15-$25. Then usually something like 50-60 in labor. He would save that 50-60 in labor. For me, I'd much rather pay the money to some one else to fix it.

Here is an interesting question how many /.ers build and maintain their own cars and homes from scratch? What about installing/repairing stoves, dish washers, washing machines, dryers, refrigators, and A/C? I know the basics of lots of stuff, but I'd much rather pay a slight premium for someone else to do most household and car repairs.

Re:And it costs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396944)

Not really - if an egg cost 5p, and all you had to do is put it in a carton, then you have a computer analogy.

No one is suggesting that they are going into their toolshed and creating a 1tb drive out of spare parts from the lawn mower - they are saying the major components of a 1tb drive are cheap and readily available, and only need to be assembled - not manufactured - there is a difference.

but, as you said, ./ is a crowd of people who build their own systems - but noone here has a chip fab in their basement, do they?

Now... (4, Insightful)

Musteval (817324) | about 9 years ago | (#13396363)

We just need to get some high-definition digital broadcasting that's worth watching.

Re:Now... (1)

b3x (586838) | about 9 years ago | (#13396613)

Obviously your local cable company doesnt have the YES network in HD

in hi-def, the mushroom cloud forming over the mound during the 5th inning last night was something to behold

Battlestar (0)

willisbueller (856041) | about 9 years ago | (#13396666)

clicky [slashdot.org] Not a fan?

Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (5, Informative)

ducklord (770855) | about 9 years ago | (#13396368)

...if it writes 1TByte in the HDs, and not on the DVDs. It's a usual TIVO-style device, with 1Tbyte of HD storage and a dvd-writer. Nothing to see here... Move along...

Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 9 years ago | (#13396472)

Just what I was thinking.

Take an average DVD recorder, add more harddisk space and this is what you get.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you could do just that on many DVD recorders, since 500GB harddisks are readily available.

Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (1, Insightful)

KingSkippus (799657) | about 9 years ago | (#13396495)

Not only does it not write 1TB to a DVD recorder, it doesn't even write it to a hard drive:

They are expected to retail from about 130,000 yen for the cheapest model to 230,000 yen for the one-terabyte recorder, which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives.

So what are we talking about here, two hard drives plus a standard DVD recorder all integrated into one unit for a little over US$2,000!? Jesus, I think I'd rather just buy two hard drives [newegg.com] and a DVD recorder [newegg.com] (dual-layer, of course) for less than US$800.

Sure, I'd need a slightly bigger case, but to save an extra $1,200, I think I can live with that.

Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (1)

madprof (4723) | about 9 years ago | (#13396847)

Assuming that you meant to say it doesn't even write to ONE hard drive (as opposed to any hard drive at all!) well, what did you expect? It makes a lot more sense to record on two 500GB drives given they're going to be way cheaper and the performance difference will be unnoticeable.

The fact that you could build one for $1200 is moot. If you wanted this functionality you'd have built a quiet PC to do this. This unit is aimed at those who don't have the time or inclination to do such a thing, and as it is a top-end product in its class its being sold at a premium price. It works for products people want.

Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (2, Insightful)

iso (87585) | about 9 years ago | (#13396966)

It's actually worse than that. They bill this as a way to store "HD" broadcasts. That means 720p or 1080i/p broadcats. That's great, but if you actually burn these to DVD you're stuck with the maximum DVD resolution of 480p!

Why would anybody buy this for "HD" content when they can't take the HD content off of the device without downscaling it out of HD? Now if this came with a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD burner, it would make sense. Guaranteed they'll have a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD model of this out within 6-8 months.

Meh (4, Insightful)

MacroRex (548024) | about 9 years ago | (#13396374)

It's an ordinary DVD recorder with a largish amount of disk in it.

And here I was thinking that it can write a terabyte to a optical disk. Oh well...

Re:Meh (1)

Cat_Byte (621676) | about 9 years ago | (#13396471)

Bah I couldn't get the article to pull up and was thinking the same thing. With a headline like "Hardware: Terabyte DVD Recorder Available Next Month" you would think it was the optical disk they were talking about. 1TB isn't that uncommon. I even have half of that in my microATX case running MythTV.

Re:Meh (3, Funny)

sonoluminescence (709395) | about 9 years ago | (#13396552)

"We entered the market last year and have only been able to grab about 3 percent of the market."

Now with our over-priced 'two hard disks and a standard DVD recorder' we confidently predict that we will hold at least 2.5 percent by next year.

Re:Meh (0)

rbarreira (836272) | about 9 years ago | (#13396576)

And here I was thinking that it can write a terabyte to a optical disk. Oh well...

I know your UID is smaller than mine but... You're new here, aren't you?

And its an expensive TB (1)

crovira (10242) | about 9 years ago | (#13396654)

You can get 1TB of data space for $850USD (depending on latency) they want 2,092.67 USD.

I ain't thrilled...

Wow! (5, Funny)

Knossos (814024) | about 9 years ago | (#13396375)

Just imagine the amount of por.... Er... Integral office backups you could store...

Re:Wow! (3, Funny)

welshwaterloo (740554) | about 9 years ago | (#13396492)

Good job you stopped yourself before you let slip about your secret stash of porky the pig erotic fan fiction...

Media (3, Insightful)

kevin_conaway (585204) | about 9 years ago | (#13396376)

What is the price of media for these things?

The article pointed out that the US market seems more interested in DVRs, than DVD Recorders and I agree with that assessment. Most of the TV I record is throw-away stuff that I want to watch for a couple times and then delete.

Re:Media (3, Informative)

WTBF (893340) | about 9 years ago | (#13396429)

What is the price of media for these things?

It takes normal DVD's - and so not that much, since you can get a pack of 25 for £5 in the UK (single layer), and it is probably cheaper elsewhere.

dam thats a lot of space for all your pr0n (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396379)

128 hrs of watching your porn movies its gonna do something to ya!

Re:dam thats a lot of space for all your pr0n (1)

Musteval (817324) | about 9 years ago | (#13396381)

Arouse you? (Well, hopefully.)

Re:dam thats a lot of space for all your pr0n (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396458)

RealNetworks was founded by ex-Microsoft executive Rob Glaser in 1993. Explains a lot, doesn't it?

And SpaceShipOne was financed by ex-Microsoft executive (and Founder) Paul Allen. Explains a lot, doesn't it?

Man, the amount of juvenile pap on Slashdot these days...

Re:dam thats a lot of space for all your pr0n (1)

Jarnis (266190) | about 9 years ago | (#13396431)

128 hours of *HDTV* p0rn. A lot more in normal def :)

So not a new DVD format as I first thought (1, Informative)

upside (574799) | about 9 years ago | (#13396380)

...just a hifi component with a large HD/HDs and a DVD writer.

My God... (-1, Redundant)

advocate_one (662832) | about 9 years ago | (#13396383)

it's full of stars...

never mind that... just think how much pr0n you can get in it using xvid... you'd never emerge from your basement ;)

Re:My God... (0, Offtopic)

Kloog (883423) | about 9 years ago | (#13396409)

I emerge in the kitchen, since that's where my Gentoo machine is.

calrification (4, Informative)

justforaday (560408) | about 9 years ago | (#13396387)

The DVDs are still 4.7GB capacity. The hard disk space in the device equals 1TB (2 x 500GB).

Re:calrification: NO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396551)

"The hard disk space in the device equals 1TB"

Not after formatting it doesn't. (Probably using those cheapshit Walmart megabytes too.)

Re:calrification (1)

dmacleod808 (729707) | about 9 years ago | (#13396864)

Would they not include a dual layer drive? Do they even make single layer anymore? mmmm calrification.

Re:calrification (1)

justforaday (560408) | about 9 years ago | (#13396949)

Yeah yeah, typo in the subject line (if only I'd made the 'r' a 'c')...As for the dual layer drive, yes, it probably is. I still don't know anybody who's ever bought a piece of dual layer media though...

RTFA... (4, Informative)

unsupported (230678) | about 9 years ago | (#13396394)

RTFA!

"...which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives..."

It isn't a terrabyte DVD, it's a terrabyte of HDD storage.

-Un

Re:RTFA... (0, Offtopic)

b4k4_teh_1337 (902224) | about 9 years ago | (#13396432)

All the previous posts seem to indicate that everyone has RTFA already, so I don't know why you need to tell them this.

That is of course, unless your talking to the writer of the article, then I would agree with you. This /. entry could have been written a little clearer

Re:RTFA... (-1, Flamebait)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 9 years ago | (#13396538)

He just wanted to demonstrate that he doesn't know how to spell "terabyte" ;-)

Yen to dollars (3, Informative)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | about 9 years ago | (#13396398)


From TFA:
The recorders will go on sale in Japan from next month. They are expected to retail from about 130,000 yen (approx. 1,181 USD) for the cheapest model to 230,000 yen (approx. 2,090 USD) for the one-terabyte recorder, which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives.

What's so special ... (1, Flamebait)

Ihlosi (895663) | about 9 years ago | (#13396400)

.. about being able to connect three hard drives (or maybe four) to a computer ?

Re:What's so special ... (2, Insightful)

databyss (586137) | about 9 years ago | (#13396529)

What's even less special is that it's only 2 hard drives.

Re:What's so special ... (2, Interesting)

superpulpsicle (533373) | about 9 years ago | (#13396721)

Since PCs only have so many IDE/SATA buses, you want to squeeze into as little number of drives as possible. Really I miss the days of SCSI and 10+ devices daisy chain.

Misleading? (1, Redundant)

Nik13 (837926) | about 9 years ago | (#13396414)

It almost sounded like the drive can write 1TB to DVD-like media. Nope, it's just some Tivo-like box with two 500GB HDs and a normal burner.

Nothing to see here...

Re:Misleading? (0, Offtopic)

mattcurrie (192138) | about 9 years ago | (#13396593)

The headline is so misleading its almost as if it was intentional... hmm.. misleading on slashdot? Never!

Slashdot
Sensationalism for Nerds. Stuff that hardly matters.

Copyright charges (4, Interesting)

jurt1235 (834677) | about 9 years ago | (#13396419)

Overhere there is an extra charge in a law which charges a price per MB or per hour of recording. Just in case you make a copy of something (I think that legalizes my copying, I already paid for it, didn't I??). Anyway the charge for 1TB could become interesting. The charge for a GB device would have become Euro 2.50 (Luckily it bounced, now we only pay for CDs (~Euro 0.20) and DVDs (Euro ~0.50 depending on the type of DVD). But 2.5 per GB, hum, Euro 1700 for the device, Euro 2500 for the dutch RIAA....

Re:Copyright charges (1)

stubear (130454) | about 9 years ago | (#13396511)

"I think that legalizes my copying, I already paid for it, didn't I??"

Legalizes? No. does it help you sleep better at night? Well, as long as you don't wet your bed, I guess this may help. What you paid for is the loss accrued by freeloaders of the system. people who think all digital content should be free. Thank them next time you meet one. I suggest a good swift kick in the balls, or should they not have any balls, an uppercut to the chin and kick them in the chest and/or stomach repeatedly when they are on the ground.

By the way, when you buy a CD, DVD, or other media you are purchasing the physical storage medium and paying for the cost to bring the media to market; marketing, distribution, replication, etc. What you are not paying for is the full rights to copy, distribute, make derivatives, or any of the other exclusive rights granted copyright holders.

Re:Copyright charges (1)

jurt1235 (834677) | about 9 years ago | (#13396531)

I myself am not a freeloader, but I feel since there is this kind of undirected law, that I should become one. I am paying for the freeloaders. I would be much more in agreement with stichting Brein (name of RIAA in the netherlands) if this charge would not be there, and if they would just go after the freeloaders.

I use the CD/DVD burner to make backups of my own data and of some programs (Mainly opensource, but all with correct licences). The latter is pretty useless anyway since you can always download it again.

Re:Copyright charges (1)

CheechWizz (886957) | about 9 years ago | (#13396629)

The 2.50 charge per GB is only for mp3 players atm, iirc stichting brein hasnt put that charge on dvd recorders, media center pc's and similar equipment.

Re:Copyright charges (1)

jurt1235 (834677) | about 9 years ago | (#13396669)

And the Euro 2.5 charge did not go through, did it?
It is already weird enough that the goverment is involved in collecting fees for a branche organisation.

It still makes sense (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396420)

We all know that you could make your own box with it for much cheaper, but in general, the real top of the line models for consumer electronics still sell well, simply for being top of the line. That, and it may push the other companies to boost their hard disk sizes. So why all the negativity here?

Extra competition is good...

Release? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396439)

We've been hearing about all of these crazy storage solutions for at least 10 years, "holograms" and storage in 3cm cubed space, all this crap and none of it has ever seen the light of day. I'll believe it when I see it (or whenever they become viable solutions!)

In other news... (5, Funny)

b06r011 (763282) | about 9 years ago | (#13396449)

Sony are announcing a 2TB DVD recorder, using a 4 500GB HDD's in a rack, a DVD player, a connection lead and a roll of duck tape.

we also have unconfirmed reports of someone reading an article on the news site slashdot before writing a comment about it... these reports remain unconfirmed...

Re:In other news... (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | about 9 years ago | (#13396940)

and a roll of duck tape.

Where do I find this? At a hunter's supply store?

Re:In other news... (1)

Wontsomebodypleaseth (903695) | about 9 years ago | (#13397005)

now i can watch every show in exsintanmnce and die happy unless they bruing back futurmama

But what do you record? (2, Interesting)

ChrisF79 (829953) | about 9 years ago | (#13396500)

I have a DVR that my cable company provided me with and I can't imagine it has much space on it at all but I still can't come close to filling the thing up. I would guess that if I went on vacation and let it do its thing for a week, it would be somewhere around 20% full. When I received the device, I went through and put all of my favorite shows in the queue and I'm constantly adding other shows to try out but there really just aren't that many programs/movies out there that I want to record. Now, that's just my own experience but what about the rest of you? Are any of you routinely running out of space and thinking, "If I only had a 1TB DVR, this would be so much better." Even with the HD content taking up more space, when I only have about 10 HD channels, it is impossible for me to fill up my DVR.

Re:But what do you record? (1)

GrumpyOldMan (140072) | about 9 years ago | (#13396585)

It all depends on how you use your DVR. The problem that I have with space comes when I try to get an entire season, so I can watch it in-order all at once.

For example, I heard really good things about Numb3rs a few weeks after it started. I hate coming into the middle of a show, so I set my MythTV box to record it in HD and decided to wait until I had all the episodes before I started watching. Each episode consumes 6.5GB at the bitrate our local CBS station uses. Even with only 13 episodes, this is taking up roughly 84.5GB of space on my 160GB drive.

It would be much more cost effective for me to add a few more drives to my existing $850 setup than to by a $2000 DVR.

No Registration (1)

lbmouse (473316) | about 9 years ago | (#13396508)

Reuters version [reuters.co.uk]

Miguel De Icaza (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396524)

What's this person. Ok. Two things he did that are bad for open source.

1) GNOME. Ok the QT license sucks but gnome was a very bad thing. Just when the users where united to make the new desktop with OLE and set the protocols for clipboard and stuff, Miguel came to make GNOME. Of course, the project was put under the 'GNU-blah' thing to get some initial moderation points that would enable it to boost off. But it divided the community of programmers *and* the standards that where supposed to unite all graphical apps where never made.

2) Mono. The MS .NET framework will suceed if it is available on all platforms. It will fail if it remains a windows-only thing. Now thanks to mono, our linux distributions (Novell who got the $500M bonus), will ship and startup a mono-Net daemon by default. Thanks Miguel!

So. Who is this person. How did he come out of nowhere to start two of the biggest and most attention-drawing programs in the Open Source World. Is he *such* an ass-kicking programmer? Just think about it....

128h of pr0n (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396534)

I'm not sure if humankind is ready for 128h of porn on one disk. (not thinking about compression here yet!)

On other news; lube and media sales are skyrocketting, productiveness rates are way off. P2P networks overloaded but most arrested; there proved to be enough time to easily tracking pirates down trying to swap 1TB files. Economical crisis ahead?

Here comes the math (Thanks google) (5, Informative)

irc.goatse.cx troll (593289) | about 9 years ago | (#13396539)

According to http://nedron.net/fom_server/cache/62.html [nedron.net]
HDTV is approx. 19.3 megabit/sec
Google sez:
1TB / 19.2 megabit / second in hours = 121.362963 hours

Which is actually not nearly as much of a marketing lie as I expected.

Re:Here comes the math (Thanks google) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396987)

Well, this is if the drive is one Tera*BYTE* (you know, the 1024 thing). If it's one million megabytes it's even less.

At last!!!!! A viable backup for my pr0n! (-1)

tod_miller (792541) | about 9 years ago | (#13396554)

I was worried it would all go! Please get me one quick before my ailing 120GB + 250GB + 4 * 140GB drives die! I got another 70gb on DVD's.

Now, 1TB of pr0n, that *should* be enough for anybody! :-)

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A distinct difference (2, Insightful)

Iriel (810009) | about 9 years ago | (#13396562)

As great as this device may or may not be, all the details I've seen surounding it still leave out on crucial piece of infomation:

Point: It will be available next month.

Counter-point: How soon will it be replacing normal DVD recorders at Walmart?

In other words, until it becomes widely marketed and distributed, it could (keyword: could) become just another niche device to die out in another year or so due to overwhelming cost of media.

Either You're With Us... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396573)

Don't you know that "terra" is now "violent extremism."

As in the "Global War on Terra" is now the "Struggle Against Violent Extremism."

Or is that "Struggle Against Militant Extremism."

Crap, I can't keep this stuff straight.

In any case, don't let the terra-ists byte you. Otherwise, the only way to kill you will be with a silver bullet. Or is that a wooden stake?

Whatever it is that Halliburton sells...

You are missing the point (1)

sniperwo1f (646010) | about 9 years ago | (#13396589)

There is a huge money saving benefit to having this, imagine no more heating bills as this baby kicks out enough heat to melt the arctic.

Too bad it'll be illegal to record HD... (0)

yeremein (678037) | about 9 years ago | (#13396625)

Or maybe our MPAA overlords will let us do it as long as the signal is encrypted with the player's public key.

They didn't say (2, Funny)

suso (153703) | about 9 years ago | (#13396627)

how big the DVDs were physically. Its probably one of those new 5 foot in diameter discs that has a fork lift tray and disel powered motor. They didn't say anything about the laser. Sharks?

What about the previous multi tuner recorder ? (2, Interesting)

AwaxSlashdot (600672) | about 9 years ago | (#13396653)

I remind of a multituner recorder from Sony(?) posted here in /. able to record up to 7 channels at the sametime for up to 1 week of data per channel. Does anyone remember the name of this baby and the amount of storage it had ?

NOT a DVD Recorder (1)

avendasora (252765) | about 9 years ago | (#13396818)

The person writing TFA is incorrect. It is a DVR with a DVD player built in.

From TFA: "...for the one-terabyte recorder, which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives."

There's a far better write-up [macworld.co.uk] over at MacWorld UK.

Re:NOT a DVD Recorder (1)

avendasora (252765) | about 9 years ago | (#13396904)

DVD player

Okay, I'm wrong. It is a DVD Recorder, but it is a standard DVD+/-R, not HD-DVD or Blu-ray so dvd recordings will be down-sampled to SD.

Re:NOT a DVD Recorder (1)

Bushcat (615449) | about 9 years ago | (#13396939)

You can record to the HDD and the DVD. It writes to DVD-RAM, DVD-RW and DVD-R, and can read those formats plus DVD+R and DVD+RW. It supports recording modes from "VHS 1/3rd speed" (1700 hours) up to "Broadcast satellite HD mode" (68 hours).

See http://av.hitachi.co.jp/deck/product/dvdh1000w/ind ex.html [hitachi.co.jp] .

So how long (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13396881)

So how long before we should expect to see a hack that allows more than two drives to be hooked up? I'm not sure 128 hours would cover every episode of Southpark would it?

Say goodbye to tapes! (0)

eaddict (148006) | about 9 years ago | (#13396969)

Wow. If this is halfway decent and has decent good throughput I can kiss my tape backup at work goodbye!
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