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No Halo 3 For 360 Launch

Zonk posted about 9 years ago | from the sorry-chief dept.

XBox (Games) 26

Gamespot's Rumor Control column this week covers the usual half-truths, and mentions in specific that Halo 3 will not be a launch title for the 360. This despite some hopeful fan exclamations prompted by an ordering page slip-up. From the article: "On Monday, the site posted a page that seemed to indicate that the most anticipated game for the Xbox 360 would be a surprise launch title. The posting, coupled with the fact Wal-Mart is letting you pick Halo 3 as one of the games in its Xbox 360 bundles, had would-be Master Chiefs more hysterical than a pack of Grunts on the run. However, a sneak November release would go against all logic, especially considering the very existence of the game was revealed by Bill Gates talking about how it would parry the PlayStation 3 launch."

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How is this news??? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13492151)

The write-up itself says that conventional wisdom held that Halo 3 wasn't going to be a launch title. This would be like me posting an article that gnomes don't actually run our computers after thinking that maybe gnomes do run our computers. I guess someone is getting antsy waiting for the new Escapist to go up.

Re:How is this news??? (2)

Hott of the World (537284) | about 9 years ago | (#13492249)

I remember Bill Gates himself saying "When the PS3 Ships, Halo 3 Ships.

So, unless the PS3 Ship date == Xbox360 date, we have a misunderstanding.

Re:How is this news??? (1)

rlbond86 (874974) | about 9 years ago | (#13496795)

Can bees think? A new study confirms... no, no they cannot.

Keyboards, mice and Master Cheifs... (1)

Fred Or Alive (738779) | about 9 years ago | (#13492153)

The first article on the list is kinda interesting, I thought some PS2 games already supported USB keyboards and mice, so the PS3 supporting them would'nt be that surprsing, if the USB ports are still there.

(Phantasy Star Online on the Xbox and Gamecube also supported keyboards).

In other news, everyone has known that Halo 3 won't be an Xbox 360 launch title for months.

Good news. (3, Interesting)

Red Flayer (890720) | about 9 years ago | (#13492161)

My feeling is that most games released at console launch are half-baked; the launch deadline can be really tough o the developers. I hesitate to purchase any game released at launch, and see no reason to change now.

Please, take your sweet time and make the game the best you can!

Re:Good news. (1)

Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) | about 9 years ago | (#13494461)

One word: Halo. Without the 2. It was a launch game, remember?

Sure, Halo 2 had a better engine and had Live, but Halo 1 was pretty successful.

Re:Good news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13494662)

Halo
Dead or Alive 3
Fuzion Frenzy
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee
NFL Fever 2002
Project Gotham Racing

Hmmm... Okay, I'll give you Fuzion Frenzy. The other five were pretty solid Xbox launch titles in my opinion.

Re:Good news. (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | about 9 years ago | (#13498701)

If we add other systems, the Super Mario games were rather popular.

Lots of rumors... (0, Troll)

GoNINzo (32266) | about 9 years ago | (#13492189)

There is WAY more information than just the Halo 3 launch failure. (Though I'm guessing it will be called Halo 360 for less confusion.) I'm doubting many titles will be ready for launch, it seems very rushed so far. Even the MTV half-hour 'commercial' a couple months ago didn't seem to have any nearly finished games. The version of perfect dark they were playing didn't seem to be skinned. I would think we would see at least one finished game being played by now. The best they can do is show halo 2 being played on it.

I think the Halo 3 delay might be very damaging to the launch. How do deal with the pre-orders, for one. The series is very popular, and it would be much better as a group. However, if they are going to use it to combat the PS3, I'm not entirely sure they'll have the market base they need by then. I'm guessing they'll try to fill in that gap with the Quake 4 launch, but without a keyboard and mouse, what's the point.

I'm going to go with the Penny Arcade review name so far: Xbox Three Shitty.

Re:Lots of rumors... (-1, Troll)

GoNINzo (32266) | about 9 years ago | (#13492980)

BAH on the mod who marked that troll. It wasn't a troll, it was just a poor review of the decision process. There is a difference.

Just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Re:Lots of rumors... (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | about 9 years ago | (#13498970)

You worded your oppinion in a way that's offensive to people with different oppinions. Good way to get modded down.

Re:Lots of rumors... (2, Insightful)

drewmca (611245) | about 9 years ago | (#13493274)

"Halo 3 launch failure"? What failure? When did anyone with half a brain ever think that Halo 3 would launch with xbox360? This was a stupid rumor from the beginning, so to prove that it is incorrect does not indicate a failure on anyone's part regarding the 360 launch. To call anyone a failure for not coming up with a sequel to Halo 2 one year after its release, and on an entirely new platform, is being a bit overzealous in your definition of success. I'm not going to argue the point about unfinished games, because precious little has been shown to date. The question is, is that MS playing cards close to the vest or a real problem? Time will tell....

Re:Lots of rumors... (1)

GoNINzo (32266) | about 9 years ago | (#13493347)

I would think they would lead forward with their 'best game' to get the market saturation meter ticking. I'd agree that it's way too soon after Halo 2 launched, and if they did release a follow up now, it wouldn't be really new, it'd be a rehash. The 'launch failure' was said just because the mislabeled launch dates and the pre order packs that seem to offer it. These people put their money down already to get it reserved and such.

I thought they were going to show a few games at the Xbox360 special, but that was not to happen. I would think they would show some in-game action instead of all the cut scenese they showed. I don't think they would play it that close to the vest if they had a real ready-to-go title. I know they're trying to get a jump on the ps3, but if they had a bad launch, you end up dooming the platform.

Re:Lots of rumors... (3, Insightful)

drewmca (611245) | about 9 years ago | (#13493473)

The only "failure" was on the part of retailers in listing Halo as a launch title just to drum up business. The only thing MS has said remotely setting a date was that Halo 3 would be out around the time of the launch of the PS3. That's it. The fact that it was listed in launch bundles is either stupidity on the part of the retailers or a ridiculous attempt to increase sales. Joe consumer likes halo, sees it as part of a launch bundle, and buys the bundle, regardless of the fact that no one anywhere has said it will be there for launch.

Really? (2, Insightful)

Inoshiro (71693) | about 9 years ago | (#13492227)

"... especially considering the very existence of the game was revealed by Bill Gates talking about how it would parry the PlayStation 3 launch."

I thought it was revealed by the giant "PREORDER HALO 3 NOW" banner that pops up when you beat the "final" boss in Halo 2. How could anyone follow up such a finale? Perhaps with the real ending!

Seriously, Halo 2 was un-fucking-finished. The only people who won't admit it are fanboys. I'd like to think it's a joke that you don't get the preorder screen when you beat the game on legendary, but seriously...

Re:Really? (0, Troll)

Lemental (719730) | about 9 years ago | (#13494126)

Fanboy #435497 reporting in.

You sir, are ignorant.

That is all.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13495465)

yeah, just like every star wars movie!!!

Get it right! (1)

TheGSRGuy (901647) | about 9 years ago | (#13492230)

Personally, I have no issue with waiting a bit longer. Halo 2 was rushed by some accounts and it shows. Don't get me wrong, it was a fantastic game, but there were issues they could've fixed given a bit of extra time. I'd like to see them do Halo 3 right the first time. Halo 2 isn't even a year old folks, and people are complaining about it being delayed a few months? Have some patience for Christ's sake. Good things come to those who wait.

My reaction... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13492381)

As someone who was underwhelmed by Halos 1 & 2, and who has no plans of buying an XBox 360, let me be the first to say: *Yawn*

Good! (1, Interesting)

sbma44 (694130) | about 9 years ago | (#13492539)

The more months Quake 4 has to grab an audience the better.

Not trying to troll, but I greatly prefer Quake to Halo when it comes to Action/Arcade FPS titles, and I feel like I might have a lot more company (and therefore people to play against, both online and at friends' houses) if people were exposed to more than just the de-facto standard in FPSs.

Many of us feel that Halo is a pretty deeply flawed imitation of the shooters than preceded it, that happened to explode in popularity thanks to being in the right place (consoles) at the right time (arrival of network play and serious 3d on the consoles, and the transition of gaming into the mainstream).

I'm sure Halo 3 will have a huge audience (I'll probably buy it). But more diversity in the FPS marketplace can only be good for all of us. Nobody wants Halo to become the next Madden.

Re:Good! (1)

bigman2003 (671309) | about 9 years ago | (#13492695)

Wow, I was going to disagree with your post until I read the last line. Nobody wants Halo to become the next Madden.

That is absolutely true. Well put.

Personally, I prefer Halo over Quake and Unreal because of the speed. Halo is generally slower. And the jumping- Halo is generally more 'grounded.' Probably because I could never deal with fighting AND jumping (double jumping!) at the same time- so it sucks to go against someone who can do it.

I hope they don't add crazy jumps to Halo 3.

But as you said, Halo should not be the next Madden. But Halo *could be* the next Mario. More games in the same universe- but each game isn't just a mildly incremental improvement on the previous game.

Re:Good! (1)

KrisW (613034) | about 9 years ago | (#13493177)

But Halo *could be* the next Mario. More games in the same universe- but each game isn't just a mildly incremental improvement on the previous game.

Don't forget the Halo kart racing game, Halo Tennis and Halo Golf(wouldn't that be weird?).

Re:Good! (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 9 years ago | (#13492704)

I'm sure Halo 3 will have a huge audience (I'll probably buy it). But more diversity in the FPS marketplace can only be good for all of us. Nobody wants Halo to become the next Madden.

I'm sure Bungie/Microsoft wouldn't be too upset :-)

Well, Bungie hasn't even announced Halo 3. (2, Insightful)

larsoncc (461660) | about 9 years ago | (#13492707)

A surprise announcement of Halo 3 at launch would be a pretty bad marketing move. Here we are, two months from launch, with many pre-orders already "locked and loaded", so to speak. Many stores are no longer committing to pre-orders (EB and GameStop in my area), so it wouldn't help sales until after launch. So, why kick the game out at launch? At best, Halo 3 would canabilize the sales of other bits of software, rather than generating new sales. People would switch their pre-reserves. Bad news for Quake 4, CoD 2, Condemned, etc. Also, Microsoft would have to get the advertising engine rolling pretty quickly. Finally, Bungie itself won't confirm that they're even WORKING on the title: "Bando asks, Frankie, why all the coyness re: Halo 3? We all know the "project" you and the rest of the crew at Bungie are all working on is called Halo 3 and it is going to be released the same day the PS3 is released. Come on, fess up! :) Har. Well, for one thing, we haven't announced what our next project is going to be. And for another, you really think Ken Kutaragi is going to call up and say, "Hey, Frankie, here's a heads up - the PS3 will be available on September 14th, 200X. So now you have a schedule to work to." Because, like, he probably won't do that. "

how could the most anticipated title (1)

neilyos (671220) | about 9 years ago | (#13496395)

be a surprise??

What Bungie is probably doing (1)

Erbo (384) | about 9 years ago | (#13501436)

Right now, Bungie's developers are probably spending all their time doing whatever they have to do in the way of programming to make sure that Halo 2 will run dead-bang perfect on the Xbox 360.

Think about it. A large part of the 360's sales are going to be from people upgrading from the original Xbox, and they're going to want to bring their games over, since backward-compatibility has been announced as a feature...but only for "the top titles" at launch. And Halo 2 is the topmost of those "top titles"; it's been most-played game on Xbox Live practically since Day One. If the 360 can't run Halo 2 perfectly, there's going to be a lot of consoles getting returned, and later, not purchased.

So it would behoove Bungie and MS to spend whatever time it takes to make sure it's perfect, and then, once the heat's off, get busy on Halo 3 in all its next-generation glory. There's enough other native-360 launch titles to keep people busy for awhile.

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