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Windows Vista To Come In 7 Flavors

Zonk posted about 9 years ago | from the almost-like-baskin-robbins dept.

Windows 815

Dionne writes "Microsoft is really milking it with this one: According to an Ars Technica report, there will be 7 versions of Windows Vista: Starter Edition, Home Basic Edition, Home Premium Edition, Professional Edition, Small Business Edition, Enterprise Edition, and Ultimate Edition." From the article: "Windows Vista Ultimate Edition is a superset of both Vista Home Premium and Vista Pro Edition, so it includes all of the features of both of those product versions, plus adds Game Performance Tweaker with integrated gaming experiences, a Podcast creation utility (under consideration, may be cut from product), and online "Club" services (exclusive access to music, movies, services and preferred customer care) and other offerings (also under consideration, may be cut from product)."

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Flavours? (5, Funny)

Lifewish (724999) | about 9 years ago | (#13530890)

Chocolate, Vanilla, Pecan, Mint, Banana and BSOD?

Re:Flavours? (-1, Redundant)

Karma_fucker_sucker (898393) | about 9 years ago | (#13530920)

I'm expecting that most of them will have a base flavor of shit.

Re:Flavours? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13530928)

You're retarded. Stop posting.

an important one is missing (-1, Offtopic)

Gherald (682277) | about 9 years ago | (#13530896)

What about the very successful Pira^W Corporate Edition ?

Yes. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13530898)

Sure ..it'll come in seven flavors, but they'll all taste like crap.

Wow... are they also going to include Cedega? (3, Insightful)

DaedalusHKX (660194) | about 9 years ago | (#13530901)

You know, so that they can remain compatible with "windows" ? or is the new product a complete, linux based rewrite with the old front end?

Honestly folks, how many times has microsoft and its partners delivered a secure, clean and workable product?

Two of these three is ALWAYS missing:

Secure
Clean
Workable
Good Pricing
Value for money

But usually more than 2 missing. After my last "hunt" for drivers in windows XP and 2000, I don't even find them "well supported" anymore. But then again, I have exotic hardware, not a 499 + 500 dollar rebate PC from walmart.

~D

Re:Wow... are they also going to include Cedega? (0, Troll)

PunkOfLinux (870955) | about 9 years ago | (#13530909)

Two of these three is ALWAYS missing:

Secure
Clean
Workable
Good Pricing
Value for money

Buddy? That's FIVE... count 'em... 5 (five)

Re:Wow... are they also going to include Cedega? (0, Redundant)

DaedalusHKX (660194) | about 9 years ago | (#13530914)

In case anyone missed it, I have an error... its "two of these FIVE" not three.

1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 (0, Troll)

Albert Pussyjuice (675113) | about 9 years ago | (#13530932)

Ha Ha! You're dumb and can't count.

Re:Wow... are they also going to include Cedega? (1)

Liam Slider (908600) | about 9 years ago | (#13531034)

After my last "hunt" for drivers in windows XP and 2000, I don't even find them "well supported" anymore. But then again, I have exotic hardware, not a 499 + 500 dollar rebate PC from walmart.
Heh, and many people claim this is the problem with Linux, and that Windows is superior because "all your hardware" is supported. Of course, anyone who knows anything about computers knows that Windows has the same kinds of problems with exotic or old hardware, that Linux has with exotic or some newer hardware. And Linux wouldn't have as much of a problem if Microsoft didn't want Windows only hardware products. I wonder what Microsoft's problem is though...aside from being run by an sociopath with dreams of world domination.

Re:Wow... are they also going to include Cedega? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531061)

Cool! You can't count of to 5 and you somehow have problems finding drivers. Why am I not surprised? Yes, I've had lots of problems finding working drivers in the win2000 era, but nowadays? I've never had any problems finding drivers for XP for any hardware I have. Perhaps you got some really exotic/old ass hardware, or perhaps you're just trolling...

Distrowatch will need a new catagory... (5, Insightful)

Omicron32 (646469) | about 9 years ago | (#13530904)

So much for the anti-Linux crowd saying there's far too many distro's...

Anyone know what the major differences are between the versions then? Will schools (which is where I make a living as a sysadmin) and businesses require Enterprise edition for networks or what?

I should RTFA, eh?

Re:Distrowatch will need a new catagory... (4, Insightful)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13530981)

I wouldn't say this is an example of there being too many distros. No, not at all. This is an example of unnecessary fragmentation within a distro itself. It would be as if there were seven different versions of Slackware Linux 10.

Re:Distrowatch will need a new catagory... (1)

drsquare (530038) | about 9 years ago | (#13531002)

This is too many. Windows used to be pretty simple, this is going over the top. Another massive lack of judgement from the Microsoft management.

But it's still miles ahead of Linux which has about 50,000 different variations.

'Ultimate' Edition (5, Interesting)

gunpowda (825571) | about 9 years ago | (#13530906)

It doesn't really sound like the so-called Ultimate Edition has that much extra to offer.

What are the odds that you'll be able to 'upgrade' from one version to the other by changing one registry key? [theregister.co.uk]

Re:'Ultimate' Edition (5, Funny)

lheal (86013) | about 9 years ago | (#13530929)

>one registry key

And rebooting. Don't forget the rebooting.

Re:'Ultimate' Edition (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531008)

Well, the Ultimate Edition is going to be brought back to high school age and started all over again. It won't be getting into its BSOD costume until somehwere around the fifth issue, and Uncle DOS won't die until maybe three issues in or so.

Me, I prefer the original Lee/Ditko Windows, but the Bendis/Bagley Windows does have its charm.

Corporate Mergers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13530908)

Apparently Microsoft has merged with Baskin Robbins.

Windows Vista Forum (-1, Troll)

LiTrIx (911451) | about 9 years ago | (#13530911)

hello guys just wanted to share with you a great Windows Vista Community that i found it seems that it is the most active forums that's currently available. the URL: http://www.winvistasecrets.com/ [winvistasecrets.com]

Re:Windows Vista Forum (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13530987)

You didn't "find" the website. You own the website. You've already said you own iconnectzone.com [slashdot.org] . A Whois on winvistasecrets.com [enom.com] and a whois on iconnectzone.com [enom.com] gives the same owner: Linlay Lee Kien On. Most of your comments spam these links. The Slashdot community doesn't give a shit about some Micro$oft-promoting website. So get lost.

Why do you run your site on Linux? (4, Interesting)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13531004)

It looks like your pro-Windows site runs on Linux.

http://uptime.netcraft.net/up/graph?site=www.winvi stasecrets.com&probe=1 [netcraft.net]

Is Windows, be it Windows 2000 Server or Windows 2003 Server, unable to cope with the minor loads your site receives?

Re:Why do you run your site on Linux? (4, Insightful)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | about 9 years ago | (#13531050)

Why do you run your site on Linux?

Because they're not stupid zealots who has to use just 1 operative system to satisfy their ego? Because they're using a hosting company who runs linux?

Thanks for the link to your site (1)

A beautiful mind (821714) | about 9 years ago | (#13531049)

I'm sure slashdot can spare a few trolls.

Evil grin.

This is going to confuse the hell out of people. (5, Insightful)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13530915)

This is going to confuse the living daylights out of people, especially non-technical users.

Home users probably won't know what version they have, and that will complicate tech support calls of all types. It'll be difficult to help people calling for aide, regardless of whether they're calling Dell tech support or their nephew.

Developers will continually have to look up what features each system supports, and may very well just end up developing for the lowest common denominator in order to maximize support across all versions.

It was difficult enough trying to get average users to understand that Windows XP Home is different from Windows XP Professional. Hell, it's difficult enough to even remember all these names, let alone remember what features are different between each.

Re:This is going to confuse the hell out of people (5, Informative)

mkro (644055) | about 9 years ago | (#13530962)

Home users probably won't know what version they have, and that will complicate tech support calls of all types.

Been there, done that.
- "So do you have service pack 2 installed?"
- "Uhm, maybe you should speak to my son, I am not much into this..."
- "Hold the little flag button on the bottom left of your keyboard, then push the Pause/Break button faaar up on the right at the same time"
- "Oh, something happened."
- "Can you read what is says under System?"
- "Uh, yes, Windows... copyright, oh, Service pack 2"

Usually this does not take longer than 30 secs, and will most likely work on Vista too.

Re:This is going to confuse the hell out of people (1)

Novus (182265) | about 9 years ago | (#13530984)

Win-Pause opens System Properties on Windows ME too, at least. Can someone check this on earlier Windowses?

Of course, the die-hards with 101/102 key keyboards or worse are going to have problems with that, but they can usually find their version info on their own.

Re:This is going to confuse the hell out of people (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531021)

Win-Pause opens System Properties on Windows ME too, at least. Can someone check this on earlier Windowses?

It works on 98SE.

Mod Parent Up (1)

IWorkForMorons (679120) | about 9 years ago | (#13531019)

I didn't know the WinKey-Pause thing before. As a geek, I should know things like that. But I usually know how to get to that information on my own. Still, that's handy.

Another One (1)

teodz (902275) | about 9 years ago | (#13531047)

Start > Run > winver

Re:This is going to confuse the hell out of people (3, Informative)

Krach42 (227798) | about 9 years ago | (#13531025)

What like with Windows XP? XP has six flavors:

Windows XP Personal Edition
Windows XP Professional Edition
Windows XP Personal Edition N
Windows XP Professional Edition N
Windows XP...
Windows XP...

I don't remember the other two off the top of my head, but I know they're there.

Or, maybe it's like Server 2003 [microsoft.com]

Which comes in 5 flavors:

Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition
Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition
Windows Server 2003 High-Performance Computing
Windows Small Business Server 2003

(I left out the x64, and ia64 flavors, as I don't believe those are actually really all that much of "flavors" but they are sold seperately, so I guess you could make it 7.)

So, wow. Despite actually having the names for the flavors of Windows Vista. What's the news here? That Microsoft has targetted its products since XP? That's is old news.

SCO has numerous versions of UnixWare. (1)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13531048)

Several of the new versions of XP are just that: they're new. So within the consumer branch, there was initially only Windows XP Home and Windows XP Professional. It is only recently that we've gotten Windows XP Home Edition N, and so forth.

It's somewhat more reasonable for the server line to have numerous different versions. The Windows Server 200x releases are not meant for home users, but rather those who are somewhat technically inclined.

SCO has six editions of their UnixWare operating system, for instance. They each have very clearly supported amount of of users, CPU and RAM.
http://www.sco.com/products/unixware714/ [sco.com]

Now, the problem with the consumer releases of Windows is that the differences are not as clear-cut, but rather based on far more general and random features.

Dont forget (1)

Camon_Draconis (906418) | about 9 years ago | (#13530917)

"Windows Vista Ultimate Edition is a superset of both Vista Home Premium and Vista Pro Edition, so it includes all of the features of both of those product versions, plus adds Game Performance Tweaker with integrated gaming experiences, a Podcast creation utility.." And my guess a big ol' price of ~$700 to go with it!

Re:Dont forget (1)

Threni (635302) | about 9 years ago | (#13530968)

Yeah, and you'll *need* it to play the latest games.

So six of them have artificial limitations? (2, Insightful)

bcmm (768152) | about 9 years ago | (#13530923)

So six of them have artificial limitations? That's gonna be hacked sometime just after the release day, methinks.

Re:So six of them have artificial limitations? (1)

LNX Flocki (459790) | about 9 years ago | (#13530950)

I'll bet my first born child that it's gonna be hacked _before_ release day

Re:So six of them have artificial limitations? (4, Informative)

xao gypsie (641755) | about 9 years ago | (#13530960)

after the release date? no way. I remember having a 'friend' who was able to find a workaround for the activation fiasco before the release of windows xp....

Re:So six of them have artificial limitations? (5, Funny)

zr-rifle (677585) | about 9 years ago | (#13531035)

Yes. Chinese crackers will eventually speed up the OS, make clippy do a blue hadouken and unlock Microsoft Bob as a playable character.

Then Microsoft will be forced to release Windows Vista Champion Edition.

Copycats ounce again.... (1)

Ceribia (865793) | about 9 years ago | (#13530924)

First Linux had one million versions, each one indesernable from the next to confuse and torment the user who can't tell the mouse buttons apart, so now Windows just has to have the feature in Vista.

Re:Copycats ounce again.... (0)

niteice (793961) | about 9 years ago | (#13531011)

Linux version != Linux distro.

So they're finally competeing... (2, Funny)

El Tonerino (875866) | about 9 years ago | (#13530927)

...and trying to beat the number of linux distributions available. Nothing short of confusion shall reign.

The infamous Missing Vista Editions... (5, Funny)

pieterh (196118) | about 9 years ago | (#13530930)

- Vista Secure Edition: completely redesigned kernel and win32 libraries make this edition secure against virus, worm, trojan, spyware, and phish attacks!

- Vista Compact Edition: with just the software you need, including the much appreciated MSOfficeCompact, this edition runs on your P100 with 128Mb.

- Vista Instant Edition: bootable in so many ways, this is all the software you need to boot that recaltricant box and get it working again. Comes complete with legacy support for every known device.

- Vista Grandmother Edition: simple, fast, and based on all the best of Windows Secure, this is the software you wished you'd had when your parents asked, "How do I get onto the Internet?"

- Vista Open Edition: free, and packed to the hilt with first-class open source, all verified and tuned by MicrosoftOpenLabs for that smooth experience. Comes with full source code.

So, what you're saying is (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531040)

that Microsoft are releasing 7 editions of Vista to disguise the fact that they're not making something anyone actually wants or needs?

Overcompensation?

Good Grief Charlie Brown (2, Insightful)

Walzmyn (913748) | about 9 years ago | (#13530934)

Seven? Haven't we been complaining about the difference between Home and Pro in XP? Now they're going to divide it up even more? I thought this was a software company not a marketing enterprise. All this is, is an atempt to milk more money out of less work. I'm dualing Mandriva and XP (for the wife) and I think as Mandriva updates, Winders ain't going to. Sorry, Bill.

I see this as a good thing (5, Insightful)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | about 9 years ago | (#13530935)

As long as the average home user can get a cheaper version of their OS without the complex functions they won't ever need/use. But then I seem to be in the minority anyway, I have a legal version of XP and think the OS is a piece of software well worth paying for. Nice to see from the article that many of the features us geeks buy Pro edition of XP for are going to be included in the Premium Home edition of Vista, and that the "Pro" version is actually going to be aimed at business.

Most users are nowhere near that advanced. (1)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13530992)

But honestly, most users do not know what features they need. It is difficult for them to know what they need now, let alone what they'll need next week, next month, or on the next September 11th.

When people struggle setting up a system (you know, plugging the purple mouse USB connector into the purple USB slot, and the green keyboard USB connector into the green USB slot, and no problems being caused if they're switched), they aren't in a position to be trying to select one out of seven versions of an operating system based on features and future needs.

Re:Most users are nowhere near that advanced. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531014)

So, how come you only spam us with your putrid brain farts only (mostly, too lazy to check your retarded post history) in weekends? Is that the only time when you get off from your shit-shoveling job? I would like to know.

strange.... (1)

xao gypsie (641755) | about 9 years ago | (#13530936)

I was always under the impression that it was a bad idea for a business to split their products like that....

Re:strange.... (0, Flamebait)

lavaforge (245529) | about 9 years ago | (#13531012)


It's a bad idea to split your products in most cases. If you segment your product line artificially, the you will be competing against yourself as well as your competitors.

However, if you have a monopoly, you don't have any real competitors, so you don't have to worry about that.

Only.... (0, Redundant)

banuk (148382) | about 9 years ago | (#13530937)

... 7? Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors

Hrm it seems every slap of the wrist helps them (3, Funny)

tod_miller (792541) | about 9 years ago | (#13530938)

They realised that by offering extra versions, they can sway the sales of units, by giving competitors the chance to sell 'ultimate edition' windows for cut prices etc. Seems that this version play will come back and bite some people in the ass.

Also, this is a bit of a 'hey EU, we are suing you but, look, you can't get us on not offering enough versions now, lol'.

BTW, I don't get it, Microsoft is suing the EU, that means they are reaching into the pockets of every tax paying EU citizen, and taking money, you know, EU lawyers and teams are not free to deal with this crap.

I say, you cannot have corporations bullying europe like this, no a flame, but honestly, US is PWNED by microsoft, things are going swimmingly for them, but with patents and their flagrant disregard for the laws and judgements of europe, I think people should wake up soon and jump ship.

Oh well, it wouldn't suprise me if Microsoft bashing has become a moderat..able offense, see you in -1 land, any second now.

TNX - Good to start Sunday AM with a joke (1)

smchris (464899) | about 9 years ago | (#13530939)

This will surely annoy and confuse the ordinary consumer. As well as disgusting those more knowledgeable about computers who are just as happy to tweak things themselves.

Not dissimilar to the ton of reviews about how one linux distribution's default desktop looks cooler than the next -- but I suppose we don't want to go there. It does, however, give MS some parity with linux. Now reviewers will have seven versions of Windows to write boring comparisons about.

why microsoft, why? (1)

akhomerun (893103) | about 9 years ago | (#13530940)

i'm guessing that "starter edition" really means "windows xp home edition SP3" and i'm guessing that the only ones worth purchasing would be professional and ultimate, which will probably cost $300 and $400, respectively.

for the market that microsoft is aiming for (idiots), don't you think that this is going to be just a little too confusing? there are 3 different home editions for God's sake!

Two *Other* Versions (0, Troll)

nighty5 (615965) | about 9 years ago | (#13530941)

Unstable & Stable.

Although Stable will probably be realised sometime after, around 2017.

Re:Two *Other* Versions (3, Funny)

Adelbert (873575) | about 9 years ago | (#13531042)

Sorry, are you talking about Vista or Debian?

Support nightmare (5, Insightful)

orlinius (181137) | about 9 years ago | (#13530942)

Am I the only one to think that this will be a nightmare for people in the support industry.
I'm already having a headache with 7 different editions of Windows 2003 Server and what limitations each one has. Now 7 desktop editions. Obviously they like the number 7.

Can't they just do like Apple and have 1 Client and 1 Server edition of the OS. Even RedHat has only 3 server editions and 1 desktop edition.

Nooo, MSFT has decided to milk us all the way with a product segmentation strategy. Well, I guess that they need all the money they can get with their revenues being stagnant in the past several years.

hell yes. (4, Interesting)

imag0 (605684) | about 9 years ago | (#13531003)

I've been sitting here this evening getting some scripts setup to auto-export IIS website configurations (which I then export out to a Linux box with some PHP and MySql goodness makes a searchable database for all the websites we do shared hosting with).

There's eight different servers (a test bed), just about all of them have to be treated in some special way (iis5 exports stuff differently than iis6, forcing me to write my parser *twice* to make things work right.

Even better, sometimes different service packs change things around in undocumented ways, forcing me to once again re-write individual scripts to take that into account.

Eight boxes, two versions of Microsoft operating systems, two service packs and I have five(!) different scripts to handle it all and make it work.

Where Do You Want To Go Today, indeed.

Re:Support nightmare (1)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13531018)

Am I the only one to think that this will be a nightmare for people in the support industry.

No, of course not. It was suggested earlier in this very topic!

http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161845&cid= 13530915 [slashdot.org]

In any case, this will no doubt cause a lot of problems for many people. It's difficult enough already for your typical home user to figure out computer-related matters. Now introduce these new version names, and they'll be totally lost. The awful accents of many foreign tech support technicians will no doubt cause even more problems.

Perhaps this will be the catalyst that will start the exodus away from Windows, and towards Mac OS X, Linux, *BSD and perhaps even Zeta OS.

What? No gaming edition? (1)

Ringthane (415537) | about 9 years ago | (#13530947)

I thought these guys just announced their recommitment to Windoze gaming...

Re:What? No gaming edition? (1)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13531022)

Let's read this again, shall we? Keep an eye out for the bolded lines!

"Windows Vista Ultimate Edition is a superset of both Vista Home Premium and Vista Pro Edition, so it includes all of the features of both of those product versions, plus adds Game Performance Tweaker with integrated gaming experiences, a Podcast creation utility (under consideration, may be cut from product), and online "Club" services (exclusive access to music, movies, services and preferred customer care) and other offerings (also under consideration, may be cut from product)."

Now, I don't know what they mean by "integrated gaming experiences", but I'm fairly sure that it deals with games.

Will there be... (5, Funny)

lunax (235701) | about 9 years ago | (#13530948)

one flavor to rule them all?

For Admins (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13530949)

Microsoft also announced they would be selling all of the available distro's in one lump bundle. The item will be called "Microsoft Windows Vista Neopolitan Edition" and will cost you one arm and one leg, of your choosing.

Seven different versions... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13530955)

...and I bet none of them even run Linux

Article Text (5, Funny)

slashflood (697891) | about 9 years ago | (#13530956)

  • Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.
  • Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation. Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.
  • Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.
  • Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.
  • Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.
  • Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.

Re:Article Text (5, Funny)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | about 9 years ago | (#13531005)

Starter Edition, Sloth
Home Basic Edition, Anger
Home Premium Edition, - Pride
Professional Edition, - Lust
Small Business Edition, - Envy
Enterprise Edition, and Greed
Ultimate Edition.- Gluttony

I think these are better names for the editions.

I'll take a Windows Vista Gluttony Edition, thanks

Re:Article Text (1)

slavemowgli (585321) | about 9 years ago | (#13531007)

And don't forget Gluttony.

and what about XP? (1)

geoff lane (93738) | about 9 years ago | (#13530958)

What the chances that WinXP will be rebranded as "Vista Classic" for all those people who can't afford the bank loans required for the hardware upgrade necessary to get Vista running at more than a glacial pace?

It's all too hard... (1)

AcidDan (150672) | about 9 years ago | (#13530963)

Hmm, All of these editions - won't this cause fragmentation of the userbase as consumers ponder which OS to choose. With seven editions of the CLIENT OS (how many ruddy server editions will there be!?) I'm starting to think this is going to be a mess...

It's also going to be interesting when people "upgrade" from the home edition to say Vista "starter Edition" - Hmm, where did all my functionality go???

I say keep it simple. You don't see a Home/Pro editions of OSX - you have one for clients, and one for servers. ... Add to this the whole HDTV and no LCDs in the market currently supporting the new DRM for HDTV playback from Blue-ray and HD-DVD and I think that 12-18 months from now things are going to be messy... ... Let's not even touch on support:

Tech: What edition are you running
Caller: Windows

Hmm, good times to be had...

-- Dan

Seems like a load of arse to me. (4, Interesting)

caluml (551744) | about 9 years ago | (#13530964)

Good lord. What a lot of nonsense that looks like. I wonder why they haven't taken it to extremes and have "Windows Webserver", "Windows Fileserver", "Windows Domain Controller", etc versions. Surely Workstation, Server, and maybe Advanced Server (for clustering, load-balancing, etc) are the only versions really needed. All the rest are so they can gouge a few more pounds/dollars/euros/yen out of the users.
Still - I'm not worried - it looks like England will win the Test, and I run Linux, so all is well.

More Windows confusion good for Linux (3, Funny)

Novus (182265) | about 9 years ago | (#13530965)

This makes choosing the right Windows version to install almost as hard as choosing the right Linux distribution. Imagine the sales:

- 1 copy of Windows Vista, please.
- Will that be Starter Edition, Home Basic Edition, Home Premium Edition, Professional Edition, Small Business Edition, Enterprise Edition or Ultimate Edition?
- Uh... Never mind, just give me the latest openSUSE Linux.

One can only hope...

Alternative ending:

- Does the Enterprise Edition come with Kirk or Picard?

way to confuse the customers... (1)

target562 (623649) | about 9 years ago | (#13530967)

I'll just stick with my OSX "it just works" edition.

The Quiz (1)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | about 9 years ago | (#13530969)

OK, everyone got that? There will be a quiz on Monday.

Yes, and the quiz is the new and improved MCSE. (well, they have to make it difficult somehow)

Sounds awfully complicated to me (1)

rqqrtnb (753156) | about 9 years ago | (#13530970)

I can see the point if offering widely different features (like home-edition with media-center capabilities, which are absent in the business-version). But I simply can't understand the crippling of the software. The limitations in the starter edition are completely artificial, and the whole idea is downright stupid. If they really wanted to, they could have three versions: basic home-versions, home-version with media-center and business-version.

And is it just me, or is Paul Thurrot the ultimate fanboi? He might be the only person on the planet who has fallen completely under the Redmond Reality Distortion Field :-).

I'm not religious, but... (1, Redundant)

c0l0 (826165) | about 9 years ago | (#13530971)

Seven? Like:

1. Pride

2. Avarice

3. Envy

4. Wrath

5. Lust

6. Gluttony

7. Sloth

?

I, for one, welcome our new Deadly Sin Operating (or wasn't that ... "Overlording"?) Systems.

Every other OS is easier to buy(or simply:select)? (4, Interesting)

D4C5CE (578304) | about 9 years ago | (#13530973)

there will be 7 versions of Windows Vista: Starter Edition, Home Basic Edition, Home Premium Edition, Professional Edition, Small Business Edition, Enterprise Edition, and Ultimate Edition.
ROTFL! You couldn't even make these things up... The new worry for purchasing managers seems to become "how not to get fired for picking the wrong flavor of Windows." Makes you think twice about telling your company to stay on Windows in the first place...
Remember there was a company that had an ad [man.ac.uk] complaining how Linux came in too many "mutations" (the basis of evolution BTW)?

just wondering... (2, Interesting)

akhomerun (893103) | about 9 years ago | (#13530975)

does ANYONE think this is a good idea? i mean, some things that /. readers can't tolerate, the typical american consumer doesn't care about. but seriously, is there a single person in the entire world who thinks this is a step forewards? is there going to be a single gamer, grandma, IT guy, programmer, homework-doer, or first-time computer buyer who actually thinks this is a good idea? why wouldn't microsoft want to make things more simple for the consumer. the ipod + itunes combo is an outstanding example of how simplicity, reliability, and having a complete system can win over consumers even if the device is overpriced at times, and if other MP3 players have more features.

Bagain?!! (1)

linumax (910946) | about 9 years ago | (#13530977)

I believe I shall buy all of them together then!

How about quality where it matters? (1)

TempEcho (840127) | about 9 years ago | (#13530978)

Ok, we are going to bring out a new type of car. Afcource we make different versions so people pay even more for just slight variations. So, we give them a car, but we don't give them the stuff they need to use it in a good way, they need to pay extra for that. e.g. The only reason most people aware of Linux still use Windows is for gaming, and the only way to have optimum performance is to buy the most expensive version (Ultimate). It may be smart, but they are screwing 'us' again.

Two problems (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13530980)

First, this will create tech support hell. A lot of users today don't even know if they're running Win2k or WinXP, and MS wants to spread that out to SEVEN versions?

Second, this is going to require a lot more global bandwidth as people download illegal copies of all those versions.

The only version that will matter... (1, Interesting)

N8F8 (4562) | about 9 years ago | (#13530990)

The only version that will matter is the version that vendors like Dell, HP and IBM install. All the rest will be niche.

As a side note, I installed SuSe 10.0 RC1 yesterday on a brand new Dell Latitude D810 and had everything but the NVidia driver working in short order. Slight problem with the firmware binary package for the Centrino WLAN card not being installed, but other than that pretty smooth. I tried SUPER SuSe first and though it had the same WLAN problem it was faster than hell. Much more responsive. Would be nice to be able to search through packages available on the install CD, post install. Also, the wrong kernel-sources packages was included with the RC1 version. I posted the few bugs I noticed.

Look out Microsoft. New Linux distros are at about the Windows 2000 level of ease of use and catching up quickly.

New Motto (4, Funny)

Comatose51 (687974) | about 9 years ago | (#13530996)

New Microsoft motto: "Gotta Catch'Em All"

Seven flavors? (0, Redundant)

rfunches (800928) | about 9 years ago | (#13530997)

What is this, a Baskin Robbins?

Educated guesses (5, Insightful)

Jarnis (266190) | about 9 years ago | (#13530998)

Ooo lets see... Educated Guess Time;

I predict that...

General people will buy the cheapest version that runs all applications. That version will be bundled with majority of the home computers. That will probably be the 'Basic' Home version. Don't expect it to be any cheaper than current Home Edition - MS has a monopoly, no reason to undercut in such situation. Premium crap will most likely be priced like today's Pro version, and will only sell to the crowd that today buys Media Center Edition.

If there are feature differences that matter to the applications (such as games or normal productivity apps) everyone will ignore crippled versions - bye bye starter ed. Dunno why MS can't figure this out.

Ultimate Edition will probably be sold to the Alienware/Dell XPS crowd that is too clueless. Rest will ignore the MS software clutter - especially since the ultimate edition has 'subscription' written all over it - the OS itself might work without one, but if it adds any downloadable extras, those will definitely want your personal information, and probably monthly fee sooner or later. I guess MS has gotten addicted to the mothly income it gathers from XBox Live subscribers. Someone has probably calculated how much they'd make if they could milk monthly fees from (some) Windows users as well.

As far as Warez goes - unless the 'Corporate Pro/Enterprise editions' are crippled in some way that matters to home user (lack of MCE features doesn't really qualify), that will be the version(s) that will make rounds - just like today. Additionally the 'Ultimate' version will be cracked to satisfy the 'Must have best version' crowd that previously cackled and downloaded warez versions of such gems as Win2003 Advanced Server for their home PCs so they could have the 'best' Windows. However, most won't want to bother with the extra bloat - or it will be ripped out of the Ultimate and plugged to a suitably modded Corporate version.

Just my 2 cents...

Re:Educated guesses (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531059)

I take some offense at that comment. Yes, I do have an Inspiron XPS Gen 2 laptop, but it's mostly for economic reasons. I run my own small consulting business, and for the most part, I build computers for people who want new ones, instead of sending them to Dell. However, I'm also a college student, and a gamer, so I needed a laptop that I could both take notes on, play games on, and had a battery life long enough to at least boot up the computer. (My laptop = 2 hours, running full tilt. Alienware = barely an hour. Not much choice there...)

Having the funds to buy only one computer, I opted for the Inspiron XPS. I've never looked back.

As for Vista, I highly doubt I'll be upgrading, at least until someone disables the built in DRM that everyone is saying will be included.

So not every XPS owner is clueless...but I'd agree that the Alienware users are. ;)

I hope (1)

teslatug (543527) | about 9 years ago | (#13530999)

I hope one of them would come without the four horsemen, Outlook, Messenger, WMP, and IE, installed, but I'm probably dreaming (I'd even call that the Ultimate).

Oh, I get it... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531001)

So, Small Business Edition is like Mac OS X, Enterprise Edition is like OS X Server, Ultimate Edition is like OS X with a free subscription to iTunes and a few other things, and Starter Edition is like going back to Mac OS 9.

That leaves the Home Editions. Hmmm... OS X before you install the developers tools?

Tinfoil hat and performance (1)

EWIPlayer (881908) | about 9 years ago | (#13531009)

Sorry, but my tinfoil hat is itching me...

Does anyone else think that the Performance Tweaking code is simply

if (g_iPerformanceTweakingRequested == 0)
sleep 1;

I should do this in my code... every 6 months I can put out a perfomrance "tweak".

I'm sure this makes PC manufacturers happy.... (1)

dAzED1 (33635) | about 9 years ago | (#13531010)

back in the day, Dell et al. didn't want to put Linux on a system because they only wanted to have to install 1 image, and support 1 OS.

Now, just to put windows on, they'll have to support seven ? Did MS ok this with their vendors first? If they're going to be installing 7 images on those assembly lines, might as well install 8 or 9...

Re:I'm sure this makes PC manufacturers happy.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531054)

I am sure that Micro$haft would provide them with a personality module to change personalities.

Let's just hope Balmer's personality is not included or your PC will throw your chair if you download any FOSS software.

Milk and Honey (1)

theolein (316044) | about 9 years ago | (#13531026)

Jeebus, I know Microsoft likes to milk their products for all it's worth but this is ridiculous. If the ultimate edition and the no less than two home editions isn't milking consumers for all they're worth then I don't know what is.

Customer confusion (5, Funny)

Ritz_Just_Ritz (883997) | about 9 years ago | (#13531028)

At first, I thought having this many versions of the same product would be confusing to customers, but then I realised that M$ has an easy way to determine needs:

Customer: I want to upgrade my Windows 2000 machine to Vista. Which version do I need?

M$: Oh that's easy. How much money do you have?

Advertising for Microsoft (1)

darkbit (873716) | about 9 years ago | (#13531029)

Me thinks Slashdot advertises for Microsoft.

What? No Baby Boomer Edition? (1)

jpellino (202698) | about 9 years ago | (#13531031)

I usually could run the board on that one.

It's quite simple. (1)

Eevee (535658) | about 9 years ago | (#13531037)

Somebody in Microsoft just wants to have more pictures of OS girls [wikipedia.org] in cute outfits.

I can see it now (2, Insightful)

HangingChad (677530) | about 9 years ago | (#13531038)

OEM's will be bundling Vista Basic to keep their prices down and when the average joe tries to install his video editing software he's going to find out the first thing he has to do is upgrade Windows.

So besides buying an antivirus subscription and antispyware now the user will have to buy an OS upgrade to do much of anything.

Fork Vista. I'm SO glad to have started moving away from Windoze long ago.

Thank the lord (1)

wfWebber (715881) | about 9 years ago | (#13531043)

Linux only comes in one simple flavor. Ow, hang on...

Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13531046)

is going to be the *new* Baskin Robins.

hehe! (1)

LinuxRulz (678500) | about 9 years ago | (#13531055)

"plus adds Game Performance Tweaker"

I can already see how it will look like:
"Do you really want to shutdown Windows and boot Linux?"

How do you recommend (1)

j.a.mcguire (551738) | about 9 years ago | (#13531056)

As a business how the hell are you expected to recommend a version of Vista to your users? If they're unable to do a certain task there will be confusion and anger. I dont see this much variety being a good thing.

Version numbers, anyone? (1)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | about 9 years ago | (#13531058)

There is a standard way to name software: Versions.

I Don't work with windows, but if i did, i would like to just know what version i have, and what version i an upgrade to. In any OS on earth, besides windorze, you can just look up your version, and check on the web if there is a newer version, if $web_version > $machine_version, you can just upgrade. 99.99% of software uses this standard, but m$ (the remaining 0.01%) decide to call their systems with stupid, meaningless names ... They produce software for the iliterate masses, shouldn't they try to simplify it's product?
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