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New IBM Ultra Fast Printer

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the only-a-half-a-millionbucks dept.

Printer 277

avxo writes "CNN/Money is reporting on a new IBM printer, that can print Tolstoy's "War and Peace" in less than a minute, by delegating pagination to a separate unit." Fully loaded it runs a million bucks. Plus the 330 pages it can print in a single minute is probably triple the pages I printed so far in 2005. I'm probably not the target audience *grin*

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TRIPMASTER MONKEY WANKS OFF TO TENTACLE HENTAI! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531381)

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Re:TRIPMASTER MONKEY WANKS OFF TO TENTACLE HENTAI! (0)

Kickersny.com (913902) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531404)

Erm... what? Did I read as long as an SUV and half as wide? How large are 'normal' corporate printers?

Re:TRIPMASTER MONKEY WANKS OFF TO TENTACLE HENTAI! (1)

whynotme (628513) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531837)

"How large are 'normal' corporate printers?"

Put it this way -- I was watching the movie "Dune" and when the Guild navigator arrived in the throne room in that huge environmental chamber with the guild novices marching on either side, my first thought was to look for an "IBM Printing Systems Division" logo...

Sure it can print out 330 pages a minute (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531388)

But can YOU change ink that fast?

Re:Sure it can print out 330 pages a minute (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531640)

nevermind the ink, you have to feed it whole trees.

Re:Sure it can print out 330 pages a minute (0, Redundant)

GeffDE (712146) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531669)

In Soviet Russia, ink changes YOU!

Sorry, but when you mention a Russian in the article, what do you expect?

Re:Sure it can print out 330 pages a minute (0, Redundant)

CookieJago74 (888299) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531672)

In Soviet Russia, ink changes you!

But.... (1)

AndyFewt (694753) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531390)

Where are the photos of this beast. I dont want to go looking through the ibm site and almost every tech I know likes to see new toys.

Re:But.... (1)

AndyFewt (694753) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531409)

Oh, and thats a lot of porn a minute! I cant even begin to imagine the costs of the ink for that thing and considering its a cool mil to own I doubt many will be made. Commercial printing companies perhaps, but other than that I dunno.

head spinning (4, Funny)

Prophetic_Truth (822032) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531391)

can print Tolstoy's "War and Peace" in less than a minute........Plus the 330 pages it can print in a single minute is probably triple the pages I printed so far in 2005.

War and Peace was only 330 pages?

Re:head spinning (1)

flend (9133) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531447)

330 A4 pages with small print maybe. Letter-sized for you American types.

Re:head spinning (1)

agraupe (769778) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531450)

With small font, and on 7.5x11 paper, quite possibly. I can't say that I'm sure. It also depends on whether that 330 ppm speed means duplex pages or not.

Re:head spinning (3, Interesting)

RevengeOfPoopJuggler (872968) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531477)

Since nobody reads literature anymore, would anyone really notice those 1000 missing pages?

Re:head spinning (5, Informative)

cms108 (96258) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531521)

yep... 330 pages per minute would be a bit crap if you'd paid a million quid for a printer.


but from the article... "Print at up to 330 linear feet (100.6 m) per minute (1,440 2-up duplex letter impressions or 1,354 2-up A4 duplex impressions)"


so it actually prints at 330 feet per minute... which works out at about 1440 pages per minute. which is a bit better.

Re:head spinning (1)

Ravatar (891374) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531698)

Which is what, 24 per second? I bet sticking your hand in the outgoing tray to soon can be deadly.

Whats the ink cost? (5, Funny)

MrP- (45616) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531393)

1 million for a printer, is the ink 1 billion?

Re:Whats the ink cost? (1)

BishonenAngstMagnet (797469) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531434)

No, it'll just cost you $83333333.33 per month.

pulp friction (2, Funny)

moviepig.com (745183) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531588)

...the 330 pages it can print in a single minute...

Called the Termite 2000, it can conveniently be backed-up against any nearby forest...

Re:Whats the ink cost? (1)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531729)

If you had RTFA, you'd have noticed that it's a laser printer - so if anything, it eats toner, not ink (and probably also other stuff, like imaging drums, transfer belts and so on).

Just imagine (1)

bryan986 (833912) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531394)

When someone hacks this thing, imagine the porn spam you will get with this! yeesh...

Frist Psot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531400)

Frist Psot lusers!

So much for the paperless office (3, Insightful)

gelfling (6534) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531408)

Weren't we all promised that at the dawn of computing?

Re:So much for the paperless office (2, Interesting)

woah (781250) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531612)

What people haven't realised when making these predictions is that printing technology would evolve in similar fashion and at similar rate as computing.

Re:So much for the paperless office (4, Funny)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531623)

So? Don't you think an office is going to run out of paper pretty fast using this baby? There you go!

The difficult thing... (1)

makomk (752139) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531412)

is finding enough people to read stuff at that rate. That's why it'd better be reliable - I can't imagine anyone bothering to check all the output for printing failures before sending it out to customers.

Paperless office (1)

Donny Smith (567043) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531419)

So much for paperless office.

And great news for rainforests, too.

I can hear the trees screaming (1)

makomk (752139) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531437)

in pain/fear.

Re:Paperless office (4, Informative)

LennyDotCom (26658) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531452)

And great news for rainforests, too.

They don't use rainforrests for making paper. The biggest problem the rainforrests face is burning to make farms and grazing land.

Re:Paperless office (4, Informative)

Moloch666 (574889) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531611)

To add to that. They actually grow tree farms for the purpose of making paper. Because of paper we have more trees.

Re:Paperless office (1)

Renegrade (698801) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531564)

RIP, paperless office.

What the fuck is Taco printing? At 330 pages per minute, it would take about three minutes to reprint everything I've ever printed in my personal life (IE: not including crap printed for the paper pushers at work), nevermind 2005. I've printed maybe five pages this year.

What does this mean? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531421)

PC Load Letter, WTF Is that?

except for now... 100x faster!

oh goody (2, Insightful)

rootofevil (188401) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531422)

From TFA:

  Cooper said IBM sees growth opportunities in large-capacity printing as marketers increasingly use direct mail to target customers. "Mail remains a very good way to market your business," he said, because consumers are overwhelmed by unsolicited e-mails, or spam, and don't like getting called by telemarketers.

Tis a shame that IBM is going to be marketing this printer for evil. I get enough junk mail, and the forests of our planet dont need anothe reason to be cut down.

Re:oh goody (1)

stevesliva (648202) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531552)

I get enough junk mail, and the forests of our planet dont need another reason to be cut down.
This is why I'm always careful to recycle the solicitations I get from the Sierra Club and the National Resource Defense Council. The Sierra Club is especially persistent.

Re:oh goody (1)

Edgester (105351) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531556)

It's not for good or evil. Think of a bank printing out it's monthly statements.

Re:oh goody (5, Funny)

Psiren (6145) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531561)

I get enough junk mail, and the forests of our planet dont need anothe reason to be cut down.

You're right of course. Maybe if they could find some other way to send out this marketing material. Some means of sending it electronically perhaps...

Re:oh goody (5, Informative)

AnomaliesAndrew (908394) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531568)

I work at a junkmail factory (as an in-house enterprise solution developer). We produce, personalize, and mail between 6 and 9 million pieces of mail every day of the year. We're already using "outdated" multi-color inkjet technology that prints over 1000ft per minute at over 3ft wide and it works great. We have like 6 of these machines and they cost only like $100,000 each.

I didn't RTFA, but this seems almost as silly as Goodyear anncouncing they've developed a new "fossil fuel internal combustion powerwed 4-wheeled personnel carrier" for $90,000 when there's already been cars on the market for years at ~$15,000.

Nothing to see here. I'm serious.

Re:oh goody (1)

rob_squared (821479) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531633)

If you're going to worry about the loss of trees. Make sure you buy paper from companies that renew their forest stock.

http://www.treefarmsystem.org/cms/pages/20_5.html [treefarmsystem.org]

Sorry for the less than official link, but I was in a hurry:
http://www.lockjawslair.com/archives/2005/06/paper _recycling.html [lockjawslair.com]

Re:oh goody (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531643)

I get enough junk mail, and the forests of our planet dont need anothe reason to be cut down.

I have a recycling bag next to my front door. All junk mail goes straight into it. It takes 2-4 weeks to completely fill. None of this material is ever read, and yet someone is persistently using resources to create and distribute it.

Re:oh goody (3, Funny)

Bastian (66383) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531646)

Well, you can always use your unsolicited mail from some companies to harass other companies by stuffing it into the pre-paid envelopes they like to send you.

Paper (0, Redundant)

aktzin (882293) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531425)

So much for the "paperless office" of the future. Maybe we should declare trees to be endangered species. ;)

Bum Bum Bum Bum... another bum.. (1)

klubkid79 (792253) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531432)

Wow - Don't accidently sit on that baby at the christmas party!

FYI (3, Interesting)

IamGarageGuy 2 (687655) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531433)

This is IBM's foray into the market that is dominated by the Xerox Docutech's. The Printing industry is moving toward Print on Demand. The concept is instead of a run of ten thousand books, it will print a single book as opposed to setting up a traditional printing press with minimum run lengths.

Re:FYI (4, Informative)

perky (106880) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531460)

RTFA.

IBM last year was the market leader with a 49.6 percent share, followed by Oce (Research), based in the Netherlands., with 43.8 percent, according to InfoTrends.

FYI-Other end of the process. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531510)

I see a great market for those who like to download books from usenet and print them out.

Re:FYI-Other end of the process. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531522)

The printer is the size of an SUV!

Mainframe Laser (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531435)

Reminds me of the laser we had on our system years ago. It would print as fast as the operator could feed it boxes of paper.

Impressive device.. huge.. loud...tempermental..

Re:Mainframe Laser (1)

makomk (752139) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531484)

Which might explain why this is reel-fed. It also sounds like I wouldn't want to be standing nearby when there's a paper jam.

Re:Mainframe Laser (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531702)

my god... it could suck an entire man right in and spit it out at high velocity!

that's not a printer, it's a guillotine!

War and Peace (2, Informative)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531439)

War and Peace [wikipedia.org] is 365 chapters and 1500 pages long.

On this 330 p/m printer will take about 5 minutes to print.

Re:War and Peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531481)

War and Peace is not 1500 8.5inx11in pages.

Re:War and Peace (1)

twiddlingbits (707452) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531516)

How many trees per minute is that? ;) At the rate this beast can print IBM might should get into the paper business too! This thing could eat a forest in a few days. Seriously who needs something this fast? Junk mailers? Visa/Amex/Mastercard to print gazillions of paper statements? As much as everyone "intends" to go paperless is this the pinnacle of printing and everything else is downhill as printed material keeps decreasing?

Re:War and Peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531651)

You mean tree farms not forests. They don't use forest trees. Given, it is possible they may chop down a forest for a tree farm.

Re:War and Peace (1)

SeeTheLight (902400) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531654)

Seriously who needs something this fast?
The people who print their horoscopes at my job.

Re:War and Peace (2, Informative)

ZakuSage (874456) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531559)

You're not taking the page size into account. Surely they used 8" x 11" rather then small novel sized pages.

Re:War and Peace (4, Informative)

stevesliva (648202) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531591)

According to IBM that's feet, not pages, and it prints duplex: "Print at up to 330 linear feet (100.6 m) per minute (1,440 2-up duplex letter impressions or 1,354 2-up A4 duplex impressions)."

Re:War and Peace (1)

Florian Weimer (88405) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531778)

(1,440 2-up duplex letter impressions or 1,354 2-up A4 duplex impressions)

Ah, these numbers are indeed far more reasonable. IBM sold printers in the 270 pages/minute range back in 1995 or so.

Re:War and Peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531605)

(Cliffs notes)

Yes,... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531449)

Yes, but does it run Linux??????

Re:Yes,... (1)

larsu (473425) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531691)

Yes, but does it run Linux??????

Wouldn't surprise me. Several versions of Xerox's comparable model, the Docutech, have a Sun Ultra inside of them (running solaris of course). Software handles the queueing and output options. Mmm... I love when printers run CDE.

Xerox (1)

Blade80 (416070) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531492)

I work on a Xerox 6135. It makes 135 impressions per minute. Also, it can bind them into a book or take 11x17 sheet and fold it in half and staple it into a booklet. So speed really isn't the best thing. yeah you can print 330 ppm but then you have to hand do everything else.

Maybe it's just me, but... (3, Insightful)

DarkVader (121278) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531509)

wouldn't it be more cost-effective to use a bank of 10 33ppm printers?

You get your output just as fast, initial cost is lower, maintenance cost is likely to be lower, and if you get a failure on one unit, you're only down 10% of your printing capacity, instead of 100% of your printing capacity.

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (2, Insightful)

back_pages (600753) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531614)

Yes, yes, and one of these [google.com] to combine the resulting 10 stacks of paper! Brilliant plan!

(Ok, so I'm being a smart ass, but seriously, how would you combine the output from 10 printers efficiently?)

This is also interesting to me because it's not uncommon for me to print 500 pages in a single day, and I share a printer with ~35 similar people. There's nothing worse than waiting 25 minutes for someone else's 500 pages to print.

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (1)

Nexx (75873) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531650)

You're willing to pay $500k so you can save 25 minutes? Hello Mr. Gates! :)

Printers these fast are very dangerous. (4, Interesting)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531517)

Printers these fast are often quite dangerous. A mistake can often be very costly and disruptive.

For instance, we had a new coder working on one of our projects. We had an array of fast laserjet printers, but even then they were nowhere near this fast. In any case, our new coder somehow managed to dump our entire codebase out to the printers. So out go 15 million lines of COBOL and C to our array of printers.

The coder doesn't realize what is happening at first. We estimated that about 200000 sheets of paper were printed before he got a call from the printing room asking him if there was a problem. After realizing that there was, and being unable to cancel the print job, he was at a loss. They couldn't just pull the plug on the printer array, as it'd take a day just to get the system back online. Eventually somebody was able to stop it, but it wasn't until after nearly 600000 sheets of paper had been wasted.

Indeed, printers these fast can be extremely useful, but when massive amounts of data are accidentally printed on them, the paper (and thus financial) losses can be extreme.

Re:Printers these fast are very dangerous. (5, Insightful)

stienman (51024) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531567)

Print admins should have had a process in place to place jobs that required more than an estimated 500 pages into an administrative approval queue.

They probably do now...

-Adam

Indeed, it was a costly mistake. (1)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531609)

Yep, implementing new procedures to prevent similar situations was also part of the cost of this accident. Besides the wasted time, paper and toner.

Re:Indeed, it was a costly mistake. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531666)

Yep, implementing new procedures to prevent similar situations was also part of the cost of this accident.

That's not a cost - it's an investment. And the head that needs to roll is that of the idiot who didn't think of implementing that kind of precaution before.

Re:Printers these fast are very dangerous. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531642)

Sounds like this is the sort of thing that prints your monthly account statement on specially pre-printed continuous-feed rolls. So if you make a mistake, it's likely to be compounded by the expense of printing and mailing notifications to customers that received erroneous bills.

Printers these fast have kill switches. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531713)

"They couldn't just pull the plug on the printer array, as it'd take a day just to get the system back online."

Printing equipment the size of what IBM's showing has a big red kill switch. You know? Just in case you decide to fall in.

Back before my day (5, Funny)

jmichaelg (148257) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531535)

Back in the mid 60's my brother-in-law was in Naval Intelligence and got a plum posting at Pearl Harbor. They had an IBM line printer that churned out paper by printing entire lines at a time. The printer had a row of 132 wheels and each wheel had each character the printer could strike. To print an "A" in column 5, the 5th wheel would spin until an "A" was opposite the paper. When all 132 wheels were ready, the whole row of wheels would strike the paper. As you might imagine, it made quite a racket.

Some naval geeks realized you could get it to play tunes by adjusting what it print to hit various notes and slewing various amounts of paper for tempo. Intelligence people tend to be musically inclined and these geeks were no exception. Lord knows how many hours they invested in tuning their instrument but word came down that an admiral was going to tour the computer room. When he walked in, they started up their synth and the printer started belting out Anchors Away. The admiral was suitably impressed. My brother-in-law was relieved the admiral didn't inspect the back of the printer where the output stack was because the paper didn't fold properly and as a result, paper was strewn all over.

VT used to have an IBM printer way faster... (2, Informative)

monkeyboy87 (619098) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531538)

I remember in the early 90's Virginia Tech used to have some sort of IBM printer (pre lexmark) that could print staggering amounts paper. I remember them talking about skids of paper/min or hour. it looked more like a newspaper press with a big ole stream of paper and a bunch of scary knives at the end to do the paginagation. I remember the damn thing ate paper so fast that it had its own loading dock where the skids of paper were pushed off the back of the truck waiting to be consumed by the beast.

Slashdot units of measurement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531550)

How many nanoLibrariesOfCongress is War and Peace? And since when is "three times the number of pages CmdrTaco printed so far in 2005" a valid Slashunit?

Heres a good metric (0, Offtopic)

el_womble (779715) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531554)

330 pages a minute. Thats 5.5 pages a second. Which is about the same as the frame rate I get on Doom 3 on an iMac G5 on high quality. Still I didn't buy my mac for games... at least thats what I keep telling myself.

Re:Heres a good metric (1)

Kredal (566494) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531565)

So, you could theoretically play Doom 3 with the printer as the screen, refreshing 5.5 times per second.

That might actually be kinda cool... if a waste of paper.

Re:Heres a good metric (1)

burne (686114) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531598)

Others noted it before: it does 330 feet a minute, or 1440 pages per minute. That's 24 pages a second, and at a resolution much higher than any screen. 600 dpi, versus 75-100 dpi for your monitor.

Re:Heres a good metric (1)

Taladar (717494) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531684)

Someone should invent something other than WORM paper media before you do that.

Re:Heres a good metric (1)

mindriot (96208) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531586)

That's a good idea actually. Someone with too much money and time on their hands should try playing Doom 3 on that printer...

So Much (0, Redundant)

Mateo_LeFou (859634) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531557)

I also would like to say "so much for the paperless office"

Let me be the first to say .. (0, Redundant)

tendays (890391) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531747)

So much for the paperless office !

A Printer for Google Boys (2, Funny)

Sundroid (777083) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531569)

This CNN article also says that the new IBM printer will lighten your wallet by $1 million dollars, although you can buy a "cheap starter" model for $500,000.

There is a report at Silicon Beat (http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2005/09/09/my_ jets_pretty_big_how_big_is_yours.html [siliconbeat.com] ) that says the Google founders, Sergey Brin and Larry Page, are buying a Boeing 767 jet for their personal transportation. Perhaps they can install this printer on board to print their own Google Library books.

Sounds like large format meeting small format (1)

redmo (119229) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531577)

At work, we run Xerox Docutech's and Canon IR110 (a really fast 110ppm b&w machine) as well as Oce's large format 9800's (36" wide by any length up to 650').

The large format machines use hefty rolls and trim to length during printing. Sounds like this new technology is part large format, whereby it doesn't use pre-cut paper. I would imaging a lot of the speed increase comes because you have a continuous roll -- the space between the paper pages can be significant during the course of an entire run.

Speaking to printing on demand, I believe the industry is moving in that direction. We have seen incredible gains in our print facility on our new Xerox IGEN digital offset, which can print 100ppm in full color. This is perfect for those who want offset quality, but don't want the hassle of going through the setup process, and running thousand or even millions of peices.

And, even on our 110, I can print an entire large technical manual in under 5-10 minutes any way (and I assume the cost is significantly less to get a couple of those, than perhaps this new printer), but still for a single machine it is an incredible speed.

Yes, but can it... (1)

VeganBob (888165) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531579)

...print a Linux manual?

Not 330 pages per minute (2, Interesting)

cms108 (96258) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531581)

From the IBM website.


"Print at up to 330 linear feet (100.6 m) per minute (1,440 2-up duplex letter impressions or 1,354 2-up A4 duplex impressions)"


So doesn't that work out at 2,880 pages per minute?

I am confused about the metrics.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531584)

How many library of congresses can this print in a minute?

So much for the paperless office! (1)

kronocide (209440) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531599)

With the help of computer technology we can now produce more paper documents faster! Talk of prophecies missing the mark. :-)

Not 330 PPM (0, Redundant)

GabrielF (636907) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531602)

If you look at the IBM website it claims 330 linear feet per minute, not 330 ppm. If a page is 11" long than that would be about 360 pages per minute.

Industrial Strength (0)

ninjamonkey (694442) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531636)


There's no time to put paper in, so you have to feed raw lumber in.

300 sqft every book known to man for sale (1)

JpMaxMan (641709) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531648)

Ummm, can you say On Demand Bookstore? Powered by google!

Wrong units? (1)

ThinkingInBinary (899485) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531649)

We don't want it in minutes / War and Peace, we want it in Libraries of Congress / fortnight! Jeez, get with the times!

More than 330 pages per minute (1, Redundant)

GuidoW (844172) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531664)

Another poster posted this link:

printer description [ibm.com]

There it says it can print 330 linear feet per minute - that's more than a thousand pages.

how much time (1, Funny)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531681)

to print one million dollars?

the summary doesn't say...

Unit of Measure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531683)

It can print Tolstoy's "War and Peace" in less than a minute

What about in terms of Library of Congresses?

Buy 1000 $500 laser printers (1)

cyber_rigger (527103) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531749)


...and print 1000 pages at once.

What are the economics of this? (1)

istartedi (132515) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531755)

You can get 22 ppm for about $600, at least that's what I saw on the first link from Froogle [google.com] . So, if you want to print 1400 ppm you need roughly 64 of those. For $38,400 + the cost of some network hardware and software to manage it, and a little time you can get comparable page rates at laser quality. Let's say the added parts and labor of setting it up brings the total to $100,000. That's still a lot less than a million.

Really though, if I needed to print that much, I'd send stuff off to someone with an offset press and have them run the job.

So. What's the market for this thing?

Paper Tray (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13531757)

Sadly, it only comes with a 250 sheet paper tray...

Reading the comments... (4, Informative)

mykepredko (40154) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531763)

It sounds like there aren't a lot of /.ers that have worked in big iron shops. The replies to this article seems to have more inaccuracies than most.

The 4100 seems to be part of the evolution for "big iron" laser printers starting with the 3800 [uky.edu] . These printers started out being centralized printers to reduce cost per page for large organizations AND for billing organizations.

After the 1980s, I don't think a lot were sold to IT ("IS" at the time) organizations because having a single printer and distributing its output to different locations throughout a building is slow, expensive and time consuming - all the things using them was supposed to eliminate.

Where the printers really made their niche was generating bills for various organizations. The advantage of a laser printer over traditional printers was that traditional printers used pre-printed forms which were more expensive and had to be precisely lined up for the billing information to show up in the appropriate locations. The advantage of a laser printer in this application is that it can print all the background information, logos, terms and conditions, etc. just as quickly as a traditional printer just put in the differing information but at a much lower cost.

The 3800 and subsequent printers were/are the industry standard for these applications - very little of their output actually comes into the office except in the form of invoices from other companies.

When IBM spun off its printer division (known as "LexMark"), they did not sell of the big iron printers. They make a ton of money for IBM and also drive other purchases for IBM hardware.

It's probably more difficult now to see these monsters in action, but if you get the chance you should take a look - they are amazing. The old 3800s could print an entire 10" high box of 8.5 by 11 fanfold paper in just a few minutes and while cutting the paper appropriately. The "high end" models mentioned probably have letter stuffing hardware so the final output is a nice neat stack of bills all ready for shipment to the post office.

myke

Target audience...bookstores? (1)

sbaker (47485) | more than 9 years ago | (#13531876)

It would be pretty cool to be able to go into your local bookstore - which would keep just one copy of every book - and therefore be much smaller - and have your book printed on the spot.

When you find the book you want, they'd print and bind it on the spot - with a handful of these machines at every store, they could have you outta there in a couple of minutes...giving you time to visit the in-store coffee shop.

Books that are rarely purchased would still be available - they'd never 'go out of print' - although you'd have to browse on a computer instead of picking up a physical book to look at.

Ideally, you'd be able to choose the page size, font size, paper and binding quality that you prefer and choose how you want it bound (spiral, etc)...costs being set appropriately.

That would be *cool*.
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