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First Cocktail 5,000 Years Old

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the it's-got-a-little-bit-of-age-to-it dept.

Science 258

Praxiteles writes "The first cocktail was...grog?! From the article: 'The first cocktail ever was made in Mesopotamia 5,000 years ago, using wine, beer, apple juice and honey. Patrick McGovern defined the mix as "grog", an archaic drink that in the United States is sold as the Midas Touch'."

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tacooooo (0, Offtopic)

tacodealer (912327) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534631)

first post bitches

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ZONK! (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534769)


Yesterday you said your birthday was coming up. We wanted to wish you a good one, because this will be your last birthday before you get Bonked and replaced by TripMaster Monkey as Games editor. We sure hope you enjoy it.

Oh, and speaking of TMM, we asked him what he was going to do for your birthday and he said ^_^

Love from the Slashdot crowd.

--
Trolling all trolls since 2001.

Re:tacooooo (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534808)

I take your first post, and I re-first post in the name of Trip Master Monkey
Slap my ass and call me Susan
Trip Bastard Funky signing off. Oh, and I have the Clap AND crabs.

FIRST POST: HOLY FUCK MY COCK IS STUCK IN THE DOOR (0, Flamebait)

eh0d is my daddy (825041) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534632)

if this shit doesn't get the FIRST POST, it's because i couldn't pull my cock outta the door in time. someone slammed that shit... HARD! ouch!

in other news, fuck you fen, and fuck you bill. you stupid goat shits. japanese nipon motherfuckers.

Thanks Slashdot (-1, Troll)

calyptos (752073) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534638)

Thank you for posting this very nerdy article. I like how it covers stuff that matters.

Re:Thanks Slashdot (0, Flamebait)

markass530 (870112) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534696)

Well, I'm a nerd, and I like to get shithoused, so I appreciate it. Getting drunk is usually the only way for a nerd to loosen up, and who else but a nerd would drop this info while getting drunk at some bar or club. I personally can't wait to (not) impress my friends with this knowledge.

Re:Thanks Slashdot (5, Insightful)

Hannah E. Davis (870669) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534774)

Hey, the title of the site does not specify what kind of nerds it caters to -- sometimes us science/history nerds need news too. It's neat learning where things come from, whether those things are ancient cocktails or pieces of software.

Plus the booze angle appeals to the average computer scientist/student :)

Yep... (2, Insightful)

modecx (130548) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534990)

I'd also like to add that some nerds appreciate all knowledge and wisdom and are considerably more versatile at trades other than being a computer nerd. Those ubernerds are probably called "boss" by the rest--if they've made it out of their parent's basement that is...

And hey, if you don't know where you came from, it's hard to know where you're going, right? Now where did I put my martini?

Re:Thanks Slashdot (1)

i_like_spam (874080) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534790)

Grog may not run linux....

But, linux runs on glogg (similar to grog?)...

See 'Woozy Numbat' release. [kerneltrap.org]

This is where to get it (1, Redundant)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535071)

Midas Touch Golden Elixir [dogfish.com]

Possibly available October 1st [dogfish.com] via these fine distributors [dogfish.com]

a fine product of Dogfish Head Brewings & Eats [dogfish.com] , the Delaware's first brew-pub opened in the resort beach community of Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.

"Grog" is now sold by it's commercial name: (5, Funny)

pwnage (856708) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534640)

"Boonesfarm."

Re:"Grog" is now sold by it's commercial name: (1)

markass530 (870112) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534680)

Boones is to smooth, this sounds like Maddog 20/20

Re:"Grog" is now sold by it's commercial name: (1)

0x0000 (140863) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535058)

Hey, Mad Dog is smoooth - it's Wild Irish Rose that has thorns... *ouch*

Re:"Grog" is now sold by it's commercial name: (4, Funny)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534942)

I'm sorry. You must refer to Boone's by the proper "Bitch Candy".

I dont geddit? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534643)

Does it run linux or something?

Re:I dont geddit? (1)

pdbogen (596723) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534730)

Am I the only one that thought his subject was a reference to gedit? [gnome.org]

Re:I dont geddit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13535042)

not at all, I thought exactly the same thing...

Re:I dont geddit? (1)

absinthminded64 (883630) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534967)

What an awesome day to discuss 5,000 year old means by which ugly people can procure relations.

Re:I dont geddit? (1)

0x0000 (140863) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535044)

More like Linux can run on it - and it provides more Gflops than ordinary pilsner!

Arrrr! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534645)

Everyone know that grog be rum and water.

Re:Arrrr! (4, Funny)

erroneus (253617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534656)

Yeah that be my larnin' as well. Avast ye blarney folk! A cocktail it may be, but grog it isn't!

Re:Arrrr! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534664)

Damned scientists should get out more. A.C.'s know what they're talking about...

Re:Arrrr! (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534762)

It's true. [wikipedia.org] Pirates used rum to keep stagnant water from making them sick.

Re:Arrrr! (1)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535030)

ye means the stagnant water we be makin' an excuse to be drinkin' the rum, we were. yaarrr!

Re:Arrrr! (1)

rinkjustice (24156) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534870)

I thought it was beer. Huh.

News for Nerds. Stuff of absolutely no consequence whatsoever.

Re:Arrrr! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13535015)

Hey, if the folks in New Orleans only had rum to put in their water (as opposed to piss-weak American beer) they wouldn't be dying from dysentery right now.

So I wouldn't call the knowledge of what grog is "of absolutely no consequence". Any knowledge is useful under the right circumstances, so you shouldn't blithely dismiss it.

Re:Arrrr! (2, Informative)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535063)

In Australia everyone knows it's Beer or sometimes alcohol in general (as in "we need more grog").

The oldest and nastiest drink is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534647)

...Old "E" 8-Ball

Re:The oldest and nastiest drink is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534871)

Old English 800 'cause that's my brand, Drink it in a bottle, 40, quart or can Drink it like a madman yes I do, Fuck the Police and the 5-0 too

So, who's the first who said... (0)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534648)

"you got your chocolate in my peanut butter!"

Re:So, who's the first who said... (2, Funny)

Yocto Yotta (840665) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534764)

I don't know, but I'd rather think that your peanut butter is in my chocolate.




Oh wait, err, that sounds bad, huh?

Monkey Island TM (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534651)

"What is in that grog stuff anyway?" Guybrush Threepwood

Grog contains one or more of the following: (5, Funny)

umofomia (639418) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534693)

"What is in that grog stuff anyway?" Guybrush Threepwood
Grog contains one or more of the following:
  • kerosene
  • propylene glycol
  • sulphuric acid
  • artificial sweeteners
  • red dye no2
  • rum
  • acetone
  • battery acid
  • scumm
  • axle grease
  • and/or pepperoni

Wrong moderation! It's a ref to Monkey Island (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534782)

This is a reference to the list of how to make grog in the video game Monkey Island. While you don't have to mod it down mods cause it is funny I thought I'd point it out cause some of you are quick to mod things up without checking the validity.

Re:Wrong moderation! It's a ref to Monkey Island (2, Insightful)

Breakfast Pants (323698) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534969)

And reading an anonymous coward's post is now considered "checking validity?" Wow. Just. Wow.

Re:Wrong moderation! It's a ref to Monkey Island (1)

Jace of Fuse! (72042) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535025)

I think that response was a failed attempt to pretend that someone might actually TRY that mixture. :)

Re:Wrong moderation! It's a ref to Monkey Island (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13535036)

I think he was referring to the comment being moderated informative. The AC above might have been inferring that the moderators mod'd the comment up thinking that Grog really was made up of that list of things. "Checking validity" might have been a poor choice of words on his behalf but he is still essentially right.

Re:Grog contains one or more of the following: (4, Informative)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534784)

Not to mention it eats through the mug in less than 30 seconds, so you need spare mugs to reach the prison :)

Re:Grog contains one or more of the following: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534840)

Cool.. sounds like something I can pick up at Wal-mart

I'm wondering... (5, Insightful)

demondawn (840015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534652)

If the traces of apple and honey weren't actually from alcohols based on those particular ingredients (apple brandy or mead, for example.) Other than that, though, it is pretty amazing how much they can find out about the diets of ancient peoples using a combination of archaeology and chemistry.

Re:I'm wondering... (1)

PunkOfLinux (870955) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534668)

Or it might just be random guessing.

Re:I'm wondering... (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534787)

If the traces of apple and honey weren't actually from alcohols based on those particular ingredients (apple brandy...for example.)
5000 BP is just a little early for distillation.

Re:I'm wondering... (1)

demondawn (840015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534836)

Blame it on my ignorance of alcohol-related processes. Though of course, I go to CU, where that's supposedly a cardinal sin...

Re:I'm wondering... (1)

poopdeville (841677) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535020)

You don't need distillation to make fruit beers or wines. Just fermentation.

Re:I'm wondering... (5, Insightful)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534795)

Other than that, though, it is pretty amazing...

It's most amazing how conclusively these findings are presented. I guess it doesn't sound as interesting to say "The first cocktail appears to be 5,000 years old and made with these ingredients, based upon current archeological knowledge, which of course is almost certain to change as we uncover more information in the future".

Perhaps I'm a cynic, but I've seen these sort of absolute statements proven wrong countless times.

Shouldn't it be earliest found cocktail (1, Insightful)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534658)

and not "first cocktail"?

Still not sure what that mini-article has to do with technology or news for nerds. :(

Re:Shouldn't it be earliest found cocktail (2, Insightful)

Angwe (18648) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534732)

Gee. I dunno. Chemical analysis of archaeological finds. Sounds downright geeky to me.

Wrong! Grog is made with rum (3, Informative)

bubbaD (182583) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534663)

Grog is an alcoholic beverage made with water and rum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grog [wikipedia.org]

Re:Wrong! Grog is made with rum (1)

SpectreBinary (913950) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534687)

Depends where in the world you are. In parts of britain Grog is Port. In much of Australia, Grog is anything you can get drunk on cheaply.

Ten Thousand Free Adult Desktops [zarabeth.com]

Re:Wrong! Grog is made with rum (1)

mattjb0010 (724744) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534694)

As stated in the wiki article, grog is a term used to mean any sort of alcoholic beverage in Australia and Sweden.

Re:Wrong! Grog is made with rum (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534720)

Can't speak of Australia, but in Sweden it's "Grogg", with two g's. It obviously comes from "Grog", but has changed spelling along with meaning, making it a different word.

Re:Wrong! Grog is made with rum (2, Informative)

mattjb0010 (724744) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534779)

Can't speak of Australia, but in Sweden it's "Grogg", with two g's. It obviously comes from "Grog", but has changed spelling along with meaning, making it a different word.

Here in Australia it's just grog, mate. Anyone know the etymology? I would have thought the British/US English version derived from the "Grogg" and changed meaning, not the other way around. Then presumably in Australia, since rum was pretty much synonomous with alcohol (in fact at one point it was used as currency) it changed back again.

Re:Wrong! Grog is made with rum (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534984)

Anyone know the etymology?

Read the Wikipedia article. It's named after a sailor who had the nickname "Old Grog".

Re:Wrong! Grog is made with rum (1)

aqua (3874) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535053)

There seems to be some variation in the use of rum; my edition of Joy of Cooking gives nearly identical formulations for grog and toddy. I've had grog made with brandy instead of rum, and it's good that way also.

To summarize: splash lemon juice, 2oz rum (or brandy), large spoonful honey in a coffee mug. Fill mug the rest of the way with boiling water. Stir until honey dissolves. Optionally add cinnamon or clove. Do not inhale the fumes until it's cooled a bit.

It's All for me Grog (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534669)

All togeather now:

And it's all for me grog -- me jolly, jolly grog
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, I spent all me tin on the lassies drinkin' gin
Now across the western ocean I must wander

(Hat!) Where is me hat? (me what?)
Me noggin', noggin' hat (oh!)
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, the band is knocked about and the brim is all worn out
So me head is lookin' out for better weather

And it's all for me grog -- me jolly, jolly grog
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, I spent all me tin on the lassies drinkin' gin
Now across the western ocean I must wander

(Shirt!) Where is me shirt? (me what?)
Me noggin', noggin' shirt (oh!)
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, the sleeves are knocked about and the collar's all worn out
So me back is lookin' out for better weather

And it's all for me grog -- me jolly, jolly grog
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, I spent all me tin on the lassies drinkin' gin
Now across the western ocean I must wander

(Pants!) Where is me pants? (me what?)
Me noggin', noggin' pants (oh!)
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, the knees are knocked about and the seat is all worn out
So me arse is lookin' out for better weather

And it's all for me grog -- me jolly, jolly grog
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, I spent all me tin on the lassies drinkin' gin
Now across the western ocean I must wander

(Boots!) Where is me boots? (me what?)
Me noggin', noggin' boots (oh!)
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, the heels are knocked about and the toes is hangin' out
So me feets is lookin' out for better weather

And it's all for me grog -- me jolly, jolly grog
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, I spent all me tin on the lassies drinkin' gin
Now across the western ocean I must wander

(Bed!) Where is me bed?
Me noggin', noggin' bed
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Oh, I lent it to a whore, now the sheets they all are tore
So the springs are lookin' out for better weather

And it's all for me grog -- me jolly, jolly grog
It's all gone for beer and tobacco
Well, I spent all me tin on the lassies drinkin' gin
Now across the western ocean I must wander

Re:It's All for me Grog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534923)

And of course the more contoversial verse:

Where is me wife?
Me noggin', noggin' wife
She's all gone for beer and tobacco
But her **nt was all worn out and her arse was kicked about
And I hope she's lookin' out for better weather.

well in my expert opnion, (3, Funny)

markass530 (870112) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534671)

you could only drink about 5 of these before ya started puking.. what kinda crap is that?

That's 3 more than Buttwipers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534994)

err, Budweisers.

What do you think those Clydesdales are really for anyway?

Gawd, those things make me want to root for Osama and his Islamic vision of the world. He can kill all the gays he wants. He can put every woman in a burkha and chains. That's all OK as long as he gets rid of Budweiser.

Re:well in my expert opnion, (1)

kurosawdust (654754) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535002)

you could only drink about 5 of these before ya started puking.. what kinda crap is that?

The Mesopotamians wanted to know when it was no longer safe to drive home.

Poop? (1)

TAGspawn (910359) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534681)

Am I reading /.? I thought I was looking at a pointless news source for a minute. If indeed this isn't /., I wll kill the person who changed my link.

you all have very stupid ass priorities (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534689)

Thousands of people die in Katrina and 911 and you guys are talking about grog.

Slashdot sucks ass. Get some priorities, people!

eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534690)

there was a grog's pizza at my University. It made me throw up too.

Sounds like a bad hangover (2, Funny)

fyrie (604735) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534703)

Thank god we've evolved to the point where we understand that you shouldn't mix wine and beer in a single brew. However this is a recent jump in evolution because "Malt Duck" (beer + wine) was still popular in the 70s and early 80s (my dad has the stories to prove it).

Newest Oldest (3, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534704)

Now that they've found evidence of the ingredients of a 5000 year old drink, what makes them so sure its the "first ever"? Of course that's what they thought the last one was, however old (<5000 years) it might have been. This kind of arrogance really makes people look stupid. How about just "first in history"? That description would tell us as much about the drink as it might hint at how limited is our knowledge of history. I'll drink to that.

Right, but citizen's language arrest (1)

lheal (86013) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534843)

"History" means writings about things. Pre-history is what archaelogists uncover. Obviously there are tendrils of history that extend into the prehistorical period and vice-versa.

Back on topic, as soon as they learned how to make wine and store it in a cool place, they learned that it didn't spoil. They also learned that mixing water and wine made the water good to drink, and didn't make you sick.

Diluted wine was the soft drink of the ancient world. Make wine from fruit, then mix in fruit juice(s). Maybe add some herbs. A big part of the vintners work was probably knowing how to mix it.

Citizen's False Arrest (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534916)

History is written by the victors. Often long after the fact. For instance, most East Indian "history" was written by British conquerors about fictional events thousands of years in the past. Even the famous Roman historians often wrote retrospectives, sometimes "to the beginning of time". Today's archaeology is tomorrow's history.

As for "first cocktail", humans, like other animals, have long consumed rotten fruit laying beneath trees. Who knows when the first human ate two of those rotten, fermenting fruits in one fistful? Beyond that, who knows what humans did in the deserts in the middle of the most anciently populated regions, like the Sahara, Saudi peninsula, Gobi?

To treat history as a science, we must accept its limitations as our own. We can't know the "first" instance of any human innovation, certainly ones so close to nature, at least not until we get all the way back through hundreds of thousands of years towards our prehuman (and, presumably, nontechnological) condition. Unless archaelogists can somehow prove nonexistence of "prior art", even just circumstantially (eg. "no prior artists"), we can't make any claims about true "firsts", except in the scope of "history" itself. Tomorrow's archaelogy is next year's "new history".

Re:Newest Oldest (1)

bladesjester (774793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534908)

It does say the oldest mixed alcoholic drink. You'll find that the oldest alcoholic drink period is likely mead because it can occur naturally (water gets into a bee hive, add some airborne yeast, and give it a bit of time).

Re:Newest Oldest (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534945)

The point is that all we can say with certainty is that it's the oldest mixed alcoholic drink known ("in history"). There could very well have been another mixed alcoholic drink, perhaps mixed rotten fruits, made by people any time in the few hundred thousand years prior. But we just haven't found evidence of it yet. And might never, because such a mixology could leave no evidence, certainly none still detectable thousands of years later.

Redefines My Definition (2, Interesting)

slothjammin (788409) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534706)

D'oh,
This whole time I thought Grog was the screen name for http://www.lemis.com/grog/ [lemis.com] *nix developer, Greg Lehy.

Interesting link... (1)

richdun (672214) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534709)

The Italian PM office's news site for Arab countries?! Who regularly checks that? (Other than those in Arab countries concerned with the news from the Italain PM's office...)

Origins of colloquial "grog"? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534717)

I'm not sure about other English speaking parts of the world, but Australians still refer to "grog" as a general term for alcoholic drinks.

Interestingly, dictionary.com quotes its origins [reference.com] as such

"After Old Grog, nickname of Edward Vernon (1684-1757), British admiral who ordered that diluted rum be served to his sailors, from grogram(from his habit of wearing a grogram cloak)."

Grog! - We search for it on www.groggle.com.au (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534939)

http://www.groggle.com.au/ [groggle.com.au] Woo Hoo!

Uh, yeah... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534726)

Everyone knows that the first drink invented was the California Wine Cooler. :P

Midas Touch (5, Informative)

pancake_lover (310091) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534734)

Midas Touch is made by Dogfish Head brewery in Delaware. It's an interesting drink, hard to catagorize.

More info can be found on their web site:

http://www.dogfish.com/beer/midastouch.cfm [dogfish.com]

I'd try it! (1)

cblguy (697834) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534827)

If I could get it. If just to say I've had it.

I love Dogfish Head's 90 Minute IPA. Excellent brew. I plan to pick up a 4-pack of it on my next trip to the store.

Lil' Zonky Does it Again (2, Insightful)

putko (753330) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534738)

Whenever I read a story here that doesn't have to do with geeks or anything that matters (and how could it matter, given that it predates Linux?), I often notice that the editor in charge of the story is El-Zonko, The Most Zonkoriffic, Zonkalicious one -- -"ZONK" -- who is despised by the folks at anti-slash.org. [anti-slash.org]

Go ahead and mod me down, idiot moderators.

Games should be like female orgasms (1)

Dogmatron (911467) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534824)

And who could forget this gem posted posted by the Zonker?

Games Should Be Like Female Orgasms [slashdot.org]

Ya know, I think you may have a point my friend. What qualifications does one need to become a /. editor anyway?

Re:Games should be like female orgasms (1)

putko (753330) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534884)

You are right, that orgasm thing is dreadful. I somehow missed it.

This cocktail one was a bit different: very little content for the number of words. By the time I was through, I felt that 30 seconds of my life was gone forever, stolen from me by Lil' Zonky.

Oh well -- I'm just waiting to get hammered by the moderators, or perhaps Zonk himself (he's got unlimited Mod points, right?). But he's probably too busy picking his butt to read through these kvetches.

Re:Lil' Zonky Does it Again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534855)

another winner from Zonk ;/ please malda, clean up slashdot ;(

Blow Your Lunch... (2, Interesting)

mwaggs_jd (887826) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534749)

Punch. Modern version of this, big coleman cooler, a bottle each of Everclear, Vodka, Whiskey, a case of beer, several cans of fruit punch, chunks of fruit, a bag or two of ice, close lid, shake, serve. Guarenteed to curdle your stomach

Then Jump off a Roof after a few of these ... (1)

Hulkster (722642) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535021)

Doesn't Really Work (1)

cloudkj (685320) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534761)

"You can find me in the club, bottle full of gorg"
 
...that just doesn't sound right.

Wisdom from Ancient Mesopotamia (2, Interesting)

Quirk (36086) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534763)

I can't provide a referrence, but I read an adage said to be from an equally ancient time frame. An anoymous scribe wrote:

"Cloth to wear
Cooked meat to eat
Beer to drink"

The important things never change.

Re:Wisdom from Ancient Mesopotamia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534838)

can't provide a referrence

No reference. Check

An anoymous scribe wrote

Anonymous source. Check

Looks like this baseless post shall be modded up post haste!

Don't forget people, we are nerds! We don't need facts because society deems us as smart already!

Re:Wisdom from Ancient Mesopotamia (2, Interesting)

bladesjester (774793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534930)

Beer was important in a lot of cultures for one very good reason - the water often wasn't safe to drink straight due to native bacteria, population centers dumping sewage straight into waterways, etc.

When the water can kill you and the beer is safe to drink (not to mention neutritious), you drink the beer.

THIS IS A STUPID ASS STORY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13534799)

Netcraft confirms it!

ancient beer/wine != modern beer/wine! (4, Interesting)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534805)

Those old beer and wine recipes are quite different from their modern counterparts.

The main differences would probably be the lack of effective filtration and the yeasts.

The filtration is probably the biggest difference.

We are used to beer and wine being relatively clear; in ye olde days the beers and wines were rather murky.

This has the interesting side effect that modern beers and wines are substantially less nutritious than their ancient counterparts.

The Egyptian beer (which built the pyramids) has been described as 'mildly alcoholic, liquid bread'

I've tried making wines and beers like these, they have a much lower alcohol content and are far more tasty.

People also tend to turn their noses up at them cos they look cloudy and have bits floating around. More for me! Yum!

And ahhh genuine Cornish scrumpy cider... even though I know they throw a dead rabbit into the vat, it still tastes good! :)

Re:ancient beer/wine != modern beer/wine! (2, Informative)

suprchunk (782952) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534952)

You might not be making them right if you feel the need for filtration is just. I have been brewing for quite awhile now and have rarely had cloudy brew, or for that matter "bits" floating around in it. You might want to brush up on your brewing habits. http://www.howtobrew.com/ [howtobrew.com]

it tastes really different (1)

h0mebrewer (893503) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534841)

I've made this before. It definitely tastes different. I got over 10% alcohol in about two weeks. There was definitely a burn...Git 'r' done.

Mesopotamian Bartender Bible? (2, Insightful)

heptapod (243146) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534852)

What are these scientists using to determine that a vessel was used to hold this cocktail? Do they have any proof that the vessel held the cocktail rather than being used to hold several different liquids over the years?

Plus who stores mixed drinks other than bloody marys? Mix them at the bar and drink them there.

bar code... (4, Funny)

moviepig.com (745183) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534858)

The first cocktail ever was made in Mesopotamia 5,000 years ago...

Supporting the finding was the nearby discovery of several small papyrus umbrellas...

How does he know they were mixed deliberately? (2, Insightful)

ErikTheRed (162431) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534860)

It could have been a case of reusing a container without properly cleaning it, a practice that continutes with annoying roommates to this day!

Okay, it's a slow day, but . . . (4, Interesting)

erikharrison (633719) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534890)

Despite the total lack of useful information in this article, does it strike any one as odd that they did not consider the possibility that the same container was used to hold multiple things over time?

It's not like they had industrial strength santizing dish washers 5000 years ago - over ten years of use, one could imagine an accumulation of residue inside such a container

Re:Okay, it's a slow day, but . . . (1)

saitoh (589746) | more than 8 years ago | (#13535051)

Plus, most World Civ classes discuss the first drink as a ply to keep students awake during history class, so this isnt exactly an earth shattering report.

While I cant prove it one way or another, it's either a slow news day, or I smell a Piquepaille-esque submission/ad revenue scenario.

Grog!? (0, Redundant)

Bastian (66383) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534899)

I'm pretty sure that you have to have diluted rum somewhere in there for it to be grog. [contemplator.com]

ummm.... (-1, Offtopic)

Bluntzilla (898192) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534950)

wow this story has absolutley no value to me at all...

situated nearby... (2, Funny)

darkitecture (627408) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534953)


Found nearby, a toilet bowl carved out of stone and the world's oldest recipe for a hangover cure.

First Hangover? (2, Funny)

machinegunhand (867735) | more than 8 years ago | (#13534982)

And the first hangover was 4999 years, 364 days ago.
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