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Apple Launches Video Podcasting For iTunes

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the new-things-to-look-at dept.

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phaedo00 writes "Apple has launched support for video podcasting in the Podcast section of the iTMS. Ars Technica has a decent write up of the news along with speculation on what this means in the way of a video iPod and Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'" From the article: "The quiet, fanfare-less launch (in fact, it's not even clear when it was launched) is a bit surprising for the company, but there may be a reason: there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild. Furthermore, video podcasts are currently only playable on your computer, although it seems clear enough that a video iPod is on the way. If you didn't believe it before, you should definitely believe it now. For now, it looks like video podcasting support is limited."

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ummm ... that's nice Apple (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569606)

Can you now start trying to find a way to make my Mac Mini not suck??

Re:ummm ... that's nice Apple (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569836)

They have yet to find a general way to make Macs not suck.

You could start by replacing the hideous OSX-bullshit by FreeBSD.

Article text (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569608)


The site is slowing already, here's the full text. AC to not karma whore.

Apple supports video podcasting

9/15/2005 10:49:43 AM, by Ken "Caesar" Fisher

Apple surprised a few people in June when they rolled podcasting support into iTunes, giving users the ability to download recorded audio programs automatically through the iTunes Music Store. At some point in the recent past, the company took another step and added support for video podcasts (or vodcasts, and some people call them). That's right. No longer do you only get to hear news and opinions read by people in their underwear, now you can watch them, too!

The quiet, fanfare-less launch (in fact, it's not even clear when it was launched) is a bit surprising for the company, but there may be a reason: there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild. Furthermore, video podcasts are currently only playable on your computer, although it seems clear enough that a video iPod is on the way. If you didn't believe it before, you should definitely believe it now.

For now, it looks like video podcasting support is limited. For instance, Crookz, a video podcast (iTMS link) spoof of Cops, appears to be one of the few video offerings out there that's actually working. However, you can bet that webcams and DV cameras around the world will be dusted off in the wake of this news. Everyone wants to be a radio-star killing video producer, don't they?

When podcasts first hit the scene, I was underwhelmed to say the least. I can read much faster than someone can read to me, and if I'm somewhere like the gym where reading isn't really possible, then I'd much rather listen to music. Still, podcasts have become all the rage, and plenty of sites are now offering podcasts. If enough people wanted them, we might do a weekly podcast for our readers, as well. Let us know.

The thing that occurred to me when podcasting caught on, however, was how we're basically headed towards the democratization of video content. A brief outline of the revolution (if we can call it that) is as follows: from text, to audio, to video, to Michael Sims' high definition homemade anal fisting videos. Blogging caught on once it became dead easy for non-techie types to publish online. Podcasting has followed in its wake: why read or write when you can listen or speak? And now, coming full circle in many ways, the video podcast is poised to take on other forms of video entertainment head-on. What's needed is that proverbial "killer app" that could make video production as easy and recording a podcast. And just who do you think is going to pull that off?

Would you be surprised to learn that Apple has applied for trademarks relating to the word iPodcast? According to AppleInsider:

The first filing seeks a trademark on the term iPodcast, which covers hardware-related goods, namely "computers, computer peripherals, hand held computers, computer terminals, personal digital assistants, electronic organizers, electronic notepads, apparatus for recording, transmission and reproduction of sounds, images, or other data; magnetic data carriers." A second filing requests that the iPodcast trademark cover services, including "telecommunications services; communication by computer, computer intercommunication; telex, telegram and telephone services; rental, hire and leasing of communications apparatus and of electronic mailboxes; electronic bulletin board services," etc.

If I look into my crystal ball, I see a video iPod launch accompanied by an iPodcaster application aimed precisely at producing and optimizing video podcasts.

Re:Article text (3, Interesting)

grub (11606) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569680)


why read or write when you can listen or speak?

TV was made for losers like this.

Nice Troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569684)

Way to add the 'anal fisting', go you.

LOL Trolls and dumb mods (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569792)

A brief outline of the revolution (if we can call it that) is as follows: from text, to audio, to video, to Michael Sims' high definition homemade anal fisting videos.

Why don't you mods try reading the whole thing before you mod?

Re:LOL Trolls and dumb mods (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570128)

Why don't you mods try reading the whole thing before you mod?

Huh? I'm being paid for moderating, not reading this bullshit.

You lifeless suckers will read everything we feed you anyways, so why bother?

sweetaction's Recent Submissions (1)

sweetaction (649666) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570323)

sweetaction's Recent Submissions Title Datestamp VODcasting Wednesday July 06, @05:15PM Rejected I had found that I could play video through iTunes via Pod cast quite a while back. Slashdot didnt care to hear about it. ARS talks it up and slashdot gets giddy. All it would have taken is slashdot trying it for themselve JULY 6th. ha.

Stupid article (5, Informative)

technoextreme (885694) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569616)

It's a freaking trademark that they used. You can't patent a word.

Re:Stupid article (1)

LinuxOnEveryDesktop (14145) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570105)

Correct. But it's not the article that's stupid. It's the submitter. Death to the submitter for making such STUPID, OBVIOUS mistakes, and the editors.... well.....

Re:Stupid article (1)

MisterBad (40316) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570145)

What if the word was a really, really long word, and actually performed some useful function running on some strange virtual machine platform?

I'd think that was a patentable invention.

Or maybe a magic word. Like a really good word for spells and stuff. If the word was actually a sufficiently good device for making frogs fall from the sky, wouldn't that be patentable?

Or possibly a really long string of letters, like GATTACATACGA..., which made a patentable gene? Is a gene a word?

Re:Stupid article (1, Funny)

zonker (1158) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570434)

Hmm... or how about... Muad'Dib?

I can't be bothered to read the article either.... (1)

doodlelogic (773522) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570363)

but one of these posts is wrong:

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Stupid article (Score:4, Informative)
by technoextreme (885694) on Thursday September 15, @07:56PM (#13569616)

It's a freaking trademark that they used. You can't patent a word.

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Obviously... (Score:5, Informative)
by Otter (3800) on Thursday September 15, @07:56PM (#13569620)
(Last Journal: Wednesday September 14, @05:31PM)

Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'
Obviously, as the Ars Technica article correctly reads, they applied for a trademark on "iPodcast".

yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570466)

you can't patent a word yet. you forgot the yet.

Re:Stupid article (1)

camelmix (880071) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570709)

Cant patent a word? Ask Metallica what they think of Victoria Secret...

Obviously... (4, Informative)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569620)

Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'

Obviously, as the Ars Technica article correctly reads, they applied for a trademark on "iPodcast".

Re:Obviously... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569889)

Sometimes, my girlfriends vagina gets too lubricated. It gets so lubed, that vaginal juices leak out. The problem is, that she also has poor anal hygeine. By that I mean that she doesn't wipe her anus well after a bowel movement. So after coitus (sexual relations), semen and vaginal lube leak out and, pass over her dirty anus and end up as a brown spot on the sheets. We always use white sheets. So it is cool, because, sometimes the brown spots look like objects, last night the stain kind of resembled Richard M. Nixon, but I digress.

I guess my point is, you could also trademark the term Jiz-vag-anus Juice.

FUCK YOU!!!111!!1111!!!!11

Re:Obviously... (1)

slapout (93640) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570364)

There's a difference? :-)

Little Zonky (0, Flamebait)

putko (753330) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569626)

Zonk, you can't patent a phrase -- you trademark it.

This is why the jihad hates you [anti-slash.org] -- you suck as an editor.

Re:Little Zonky (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569708)

Zonk, you can't patent a phrase -- you trademark it.

Yes, but you can patent the business process of getting it wrong, but we're all friends here, right?

BTW Did this video podcasting really take anyone by surprise? I nearly dislocated a jaw yawning.

Re:Little Zonky (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570032)

I've been watching videos in iTunes for a while now. of particular interest is the "systm" (sic) "vcast". In fact you can have more than video, you can have pdf's as well. One guy in my podcast playlist just lreases text file, and occasional videos, no audio yet!

This has been known about for a loooong time [lifehacker.com] .

Posted anonymously so I could nab that troll at the top.

Re:Little Zonky (1)

JBHarris (890771) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569934)

But he gives good reviews of video games. I can't remember the last time I was inspired as by his review of Nintendogs.

Beautiful.

Re:Little Zonky (2, Informative)

putko (753330) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570355)

Notice how I got "-1 Flamebait" for pointing out that Zonk screwed up for the bazillionth time?

This is exactly the sort of thing that makes one want to join GNAA or the jihad.

No more Mr. Nice Guy.

Video iPod (5, Interesting)

theantipop (803016) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569642)

I know the idea of a video capable iPod hasn't been too enticing around here as users complain of small screen areas. I have to say, however, that after purchasing an iRiver H340 and flashing the Korean firmware I love the ability to play video if the fancy strikes me. The screen is big enough to make it worth it to watch movies or tv shows on a flight (or on my lunch break).

I'd be really interested to see what Apple can do for video on a portable jukebox. iRiver's implementation, while nice, seems a bit 'after the fact' so I know there is potential.

Re:Video iPod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569907)

Yes what you said, and I'll add mention of the Cowon iAUDIO X5 which is similar to the iRiver H340 (and now I believe they released their A2 which is more geared towards portable video playback). It's not the greatest but I'm glad to have it. The X5 uses a program called Jet Audio to convert videos to the screensize of the portable, it can also work as a general purpose format converter which is nice. I've got lots of short music videos. it's not really ideal for watching The Matrix, but I can do that too in a pinch.

I'm betting that Apple will still lose to iRiver and iAUDIO in the sound quality dept. My impression of Apple has been that it's merit is more fashion over function. Good marketing makes up for a lack of features and quality.

Re:Video iPod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570272)

This product lost when they named it CowON...

Re:Video iPod (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570264)

Apple has announced that their first podcast will be of Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates engaged in anal sex. Apparently Steve Jobs will guest star as a condom.

"We like the idea of splurging on each other for Apple." Gates said. "I plan on shoving my three inch member straight up his old poop shoot, because I know that most iPod owners are closet homosexuals."

Ballmer reportedly said "I'm going to kill Gates' ass!"

It's what you put on it (2, Informative)

tentimestwenty (693290) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570892)

The key is not so much the device as what you put on it. Sure, Apple is going to sell videos and probably movies at some point. The screen is not really the limitation it's made out to be, Apple can design a good one. Most importantly, Apple is going to let people VidCast, which is the equivalent of open source TV. It will start with music videos from small bands/labels, but anybody can fire up iMovie and make a 5 minute video. They will just add an Export option which pre-formats it for PodCasting. No one uses the iRiver for video because iRiver doesn't offer all this nicely packaged content. Apple proved it with music and they'll do the same with video. They're becoming a broadcaster.

Time stamp needs seconds (-1, Offtopic)

technoextreme (885694) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569645)

We all managed to post the same exact thing at exactly the same time. They all came witing seconds of one another.

You fail iSt (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569661)

Gloves, 3ondOms [goat.cx]

Some video podcasts are cool (4, Informative)

ajiva (156759) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569663)

I find that some video podcasts are actually quite good. For example, Diggnation is quite good: http://revision3.com/diggnation [revision3.com]
as is Systm:
http://revision3.com/systm [revision3.com]

Re:Some video podcasts are cool (0, Offtopic)

sunwolf (853208) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570157)

Is your Mac Mini sig still valid...?

I want one so I can sell it as a limited edition antique in the years to come...

Interesting Comparison (5, Informative)

Krast0r (843081) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569670)

It will be interesting to see, with the current amount of media emphasis (especially in the BBC) on camera and video phones being used in reporting stories and being "first on the scene", whether the podcast will rival the mobile phone with regards to use in media. Although the mobile phone is now ubiquitous, the ipod may be capable of recording better quality video and broadcasting it for everyone without the use of a new corporation.

Re:Interesting Comparison (1)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570256)

There is a huge difference between video recording and video playback.

There is also a huge difference in the skill necessary to shoot video footage well and shoot still pictures well.

Re:Interesting Comparison (1)

JonasH (183422) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570293)

Although the mobile phone is now ubiquitous, the ipod may be capable of recording better quality video and broadcasting it for everyone without the use of a new corporation.

I doubt it. What with the ipod not even having a camera. Much less a video camera. Haven't seen much video recording done without a camera.

Would the Mac people please please PLEASE stop saying "[possible future Apple product] will beat [currently available non-Apple product]". It's getting tiresome.

nothing new here (5, Informative)

chocolatetrumpet (73058) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569687)

This is nothing new. I've been watching Prem Rawat's "Peace is Possible" on iTunes for a while.

The Dawn and Drew show even had a little video as part of their iTunes rss feed.

Apple already has a specialized "ipod videocasting" application - it's called iMovie.

The "news" will be an iPod designed to support video playback right out of the box.

Re:nothing new here (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570298)

Thats great! Now I can use my iPod Shuffle to watch random movies ;) YAY ME!

Re:nothing new here (1)

TheAxeMaster (762000) | more than 9 years ago | (#13571033)

Creative has two video-capable portable players already. This one:
    http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?catego ry=210&subcategory=&product=12985&nav=technicalSpe cifications [creative.com]

has a nice set of supporting video file types and is similar in size and price to the bigger ipods that are already out. Then there's this one:

http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?categ ory=213&subcategory=215&product=14067 [creative.com]

  that is a smaller, flash-based player.

News to Rocketboom... (3, Interesting)

Myko (11551) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569701)

Rocketboom [rocketboom.com] has had a working vodcast in the iTunes directory since the start of podcast support with version 4.9

I bet they're surpirised to hear of this "new" functionality....

I think the writeup my be a bit misleading... (4, Informative)

spyrral (162842) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569709)

First of all, let's have a quick chuckle over "Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'" and move on :)

I noticed that iTunes could handle "video podcasts" in the last version (4.7?) and there's a little writeup of the capability paired with del.ici.us [del.ico.us] over at lifehacker [lifehacker.com] :

http://www.lifehacker.com/software/entertainment/h ow-to-find-and-add-media-to-your-itunes-library-wi th-delicious-110812.php [lifehacker.com]

Does it mean that a video iPod is "on the way"? Not neccesarily. iTunes has had the ability to play video for a while, and podcasting video is not much different from podcasting audio. Parse
  the rss, download the associated media, add to a special playlist. I think the feature was added as an afterthought or experiment: "hey, we can add a couple lines and support this!".

The video iPod remains the white whale of Apple enthusiasts. Often speculated about, never seen.

Re:I think the writeup my be a bit misleading... (2, Informative)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569742)

Podcasting is, at its heart, RSS. You can deliver any type of binary data over RSS. I've even seen Podcasts deliver PDFs which iTunes can store (it even has a little icon for PDFs) though the PDFs open in Preview.app.

Cringely on Apple's plans - July 14, 2005 (4, Informative)

Embedded Geek (532893) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569728)

Get ready for the Video iPod, which will presumably be available from more than just Apple.

The overall discussion [pbs.org] was about Intel/Apple, but it seems he called this one (at least the first part) right.

Re:Cringely on Apple's plans - July 14, 2005 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570503)

Get ready for the Video iPod, which will presumably be available from more than just Apple.

The overall discussion was about Intel/Apple, but it seems he called this one (at least the first part) right.


Yeah, the "video ipod" is already available-- from Sony. It's called the PSP.

a video ipod? (-1, Flamebait)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569760)

although it seems clear enough that a video iPod is on the way. If you didn't believe it before, you should definitely believe it now.
The article seems to be suggesting that Apple is planning to steal the already existing idea of a portable video player and incorporate it into the iPod.

But Apple never steals others ideas...they only brilliantly and uniquely innovate right?

Re:a video ipod? (1)

jhurshman (722388) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570049)

From the Oxford dictionary, via Dictionary.app:

innovate - verb [ intrans. ] make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products

Seems to me innovation includes taking something established and making changes/improvements to it. And, yes, making something falling-off-a-log easy to use counts.

Who claims that Apple invented portable digital music players? No one. But who would claim that the iPod was not in some degree innovative? I suppose only those who care only about feature lists and not about ease of use, attractive design, etc.

Re:a video ipod? (1)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570257)

From the Oxford dictionary, via Dictionary.app: innovate - verb [ intrans. ] make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products Seems to me innovation includes taking something established and making changes/improvements to it. And, yes, making something falling-off-a-log easy to use counts. Who claims that Apple invented portable digital music players? No one. But who would claim that the iPod was not in some degree innovative? I suppose only those who care only about feature lists and not about ease of use, attractive design, etc.
From the American Heritage Dictionary, via Dictionary.com:

innovate - To begin or introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time.

v. intr. To begin or introduce something new.

Since we speak "American" in the US and not "English", you can twiddle your OED around all you like, and you'll frequently be wrong. Were we in England, I might agree, but you already know full well exactly how the word "innovate" is used in tech discussions, so this is already a meaningless point.

I actually have heard several people profess the honest belief that Apple invented portable players, simply out of ignorance that things exist before they might have heard of them. But that wasn't the point I was making. That being that Slashdot is brimming with people who fawn over everything Apple does and claim that they are the only company who "innovates" and everyone else simply copies them. Then a total pass is given to things that Apple clearly copies from others. In the case of the iPod the color and decent marketing was the only particulary "new" thing about it, even the scroll wheel was just a different metaphor on existing interfaces.

There were lots of words in the above paragraph if you want to look them up in your OED also.

Re:a video ipod? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570106)

Right. But their plan is to make one bright and shiny. You will have to have on. The moth flies into the fire. Amen.

Re:a video ipod? (1)

johnpaul191 (240105) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570328)

steal the idea of a portable video player? haha so only one company should have ever made a record player? a cassette deck? a computer? a car?

do you work for some company that made an early MP3 player that is long forgotten? Apple never claimed to create the first MP3 player.... they seem to just be the first ones to get it right. it would not have gotten so popular at that initial price if it was a nightmare to use (like some other players of the time).

Apple was the first to market a windows based UI, so everyone else has *stolen* that as you say. Apple was also the first to market a personal computer and that idea has been stolen by everyone else. i think you need to rethink your thought on intellectual property rights and how far they actually go.

Re:a video ipod? (0, Flamebait)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570680)

Apple was also the first to market a personal computer and that idea has been stolen by everyone else. i think you need to rethink your thought on intellectual property rights and how far they actually go.
Thank you for making my point so succinctly that people will suspect you are a shill that I created just for this purpose.

You might want to bone up on the history of microcomputers a bit.

Re:a video ipod? (0, Troll)

johnpaul191 (240105) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570934)

whatever.... you might still want to get your head out of your ass.

Re:a video ipod? (1)

RapmasterT (787426) | more than 9 years ago | (#13571042)

whatever.... you might still want to get your head out of your ass.
That is all you could come up with after your extensive research into the history of microcomputers? My ex wife tells people that every day.

But snappy comeback though. well said, you've totally disarmed my argument. I and my family are shamed for generations to come.

If Apple Trademarks "iPodCast"... (1)

farzadb82 (735100) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569785)

Will they go and sue anyone who uses the term "PodCast" ?

On that point, how can the term "iPodCast" even be granted, given that a similar and close term "PodCast" already exists and is used by everyone ?

Re:If Apple Trademarks "iPodCast"... (1)

shotfeel (235240) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570007)

Its not like nobody used the term "movie" before iMovie was released (ditto the rest of the iApps). Or used "windows" before Windows was released.

Its all in trademarking for a specific class of product.

Re:If Apple Trademarks "iPodCast"... (1)

jhurshman (722388) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570074)

Well, Apple has a trademark on the word "iMovie", but I haven't hear of them trying to stop anyone else from using "movie"...

PSP support (4, Insightful)

didiken (93521) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569790)

Well, Sony PSP can play h.264 video format. Okay maybe need some simple tweaking with the container format.

  Maybe this is something Sony would like to collaborate with Apple on?

Re:PSP support (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570107)

Yeah, then I can have an iPod that shoots disks across the room. That would rock!

Tech Review Graph (4, Interesting)

CrazyWingman (683127) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569800)

there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild.

Actually, there is a very interesting graph in this month's Technology Review concerning podcasts. The graph shows the percentage of podcasts available by subject, versus the percentage of podcasts viewed by subject. Music is, of course, the genre that most podcasts are in, and the genre that most people view. However, erotica is one of the smallest genres by availablilty, and one of the largest by viewership. Porn driving technology again, it seems. :)

Re:Tech Review Graph (2, Informative)

diamondsw (685967) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570317)

Very interesting given questions of how porn drives technology. The article [technologyreview.com] , and the graph [technologyreview.com] .

So what? (-1, Flamebait)

DogDude (805747) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569809)

Seriously. Somebody please explain what the big deal... is this just watching streaming video through the iTunes software? If so, who cares? I've been watching streaming video through Winamp, Media Player, Real Player, Quicktime, and every other video player for years now. What's so revolutionary about this, exactly? Is this the first time Apple fetishists have been able to watch streaming video, or something?

Re:So what? (1)

Tsiangkun (746511) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569933)

SLightly different than streaming.

Video is downloaded. RSS is used to inform the iTune application of when new media is available. Depending on the users preferences, the new media will be downloaded or not automatically.

Re:So what? (2, Insightful)

shotfeel (235240) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570054)

So when you get home, the news shows, sports hilights, etc. that you may want to watch have been downloaded to your computer, ready to go. Could be better than Tivo.

Then, of course, it all syncs with your vPod.

Re:So what? (1)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570057)

Even I am not seeing the bigdeal on this. It sounds like they are episode-ing all the shows via RSS. How is they any different than downloading sections of homemade shows and movies off Atomfilms?

Re:So what? (2, Insightful)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570559)

I don't remember you complaining about Podcasting - which is the same bloody thing for audio.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570737)

My take on that is it's been easy to watch/listen to streaming content for quite a while. Only recently has it become easy to publish streaming content.

Democracy Now! is podcast in video form as well. (1)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569854)

It is definitely designed for a video ipod.

In iTunes, you open the window that shows the album art, and right there is the video feed.

Why so quiet, Apple? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13569864)

I know the article says that video podcasting support in iTunes has been around for a while, but why on earth have we not heard about this before? I follow most of the rumor sites, and this hasn't been addressed, and yet it seems like the best evidence for the video iPod. This is the first I've head of this.

I have to wonder if Apple isn't promoting this feature because they're not sure how to bill it. Without a video iPod, it doesn't fit well within their "package deal" of the iTMS, iPod, and iTunes.

Bandwidth? (2, Insightful)

airherbe (638417) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569866)


Audio podcasts consume large amounts of bandwidth for the host; not just from the content itself, but the constant retrieval of the RSS feeds from podcast clients, as well.

Video podcasts using the same distribution methods would be highly inefficient. But, perhaps an combined solution using syndicated bittorrents would be feasable, like this guy [gotilk.com] proposes.

// J

If Apple was Smart (5, Interesting)

Solr_Flare (844465) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569900)

They would release a firmware update that would enable video playback on all current Ipod models. This would boost customer loyalty, satisfaction, and increase sales of Ipods across the board.

Then, Apple could simultaniously release a new "accessory" for the Ipod. It would be a line of larger portable screens. The screens could have some sort of dock(maybe on the side) that the Ipod could snap into and feed video out to the portable screen while letting you use the clickwheel for control.

Doing something like this would give ipod owners a new "item" to purchase if they so chose. And, I imagine it would sell very well because now, in addition to entire music collections, you could have entire movie collections with an optional screen to get good viewing off of.

Of course, later apple could release a "video ipod" model as well with improved video out quality and perhaps a larger built in screen for ipod owners to "upgrade" to when their old ipods finally wear out.

It would be a win win situation for everyone and boost apple's hardware sales across the board.

Re:If Apple was Smart (1)

John Hurliman (152784) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570114)

That's assuming that current iPods, that struggle with real-time OGG/Vorbis playback, are capable of video playback.

VIdeo can be simply though (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570233)

They could transcode it into picture flipping with a somewhat terrible framerate, which requires no processing to speak of. People have already hacked the color iPods to do just that I believe.

It's not like the iPods are going to be decodinbg MP4 files themselves for some time!

Re:If Apple was Smart (1)

theantipop (803016) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570148)

Can't happen if they don't have the proper video decoding chip built into the iPod itself. Nothing firmware can do about it.

Then all iPod batteries die... (-1, Troll)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570289)

Every body asks for an exchange, and Apple files bankruptcy.

Smart people already here... (5, Informative)

borschski (665381) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569911)


I've been noticing all the podcasting cognoscenti in Silicon Valley are simultaneously doing their podcast and shooting video of it. What do they know or suspect that we don't?
  • Former TechTV ScreenSavers host Leo Laporte, Patrick Norton, John C. "I get no spam" Dvorak and others are doing TWIT [www.twit.tv] and just announced video is next.
  • Former ScreenSavers hosts Alex Albrecht and Kevin Rose at Diggnation [typepad.com] are shooting video while they podcast and Kevin Rose is doing SYSTM [revision3.com]
  • Robert X. Cringley's NerdTV debuts [pbs.org] . Now you may be wondering, "So what?". It's IPTV [wikipedia.org] ...that's what. There aren't a lot of great examples out there yet, but most of the smart podcasters -- who are mini-celebrities or have something people would like to see -- are simultaneously podcasting and shooting video (many in high definition just in case). Read an article about a new report here [bbc.co.uk] .
  • Silicon Valley podcaster John Furrier from Podtech [podtech.net] is embarking on video to augment his podcasting.
Wired magazine has a great article [wired.com] discussing blogging + video = vlogging. While everyone's attention is on podcasting [wikipedia.org] , vlogging [wikipedia.org] is the next hot trend that has almost taken off. This Apple announcement oughta help.


It's so hard to believe in anything anymore. If it weren't for my lucky astrology mood watch, I wouldn't believe in anything.
Steve Martin, Comedian

NASA is a joke. (-1, Offtopic)

derrickh (157646) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569925)

It took them from 1961-1969 to get to the moon the first time. 8 years. In the freaking 60's when everyone thought -plastic- was a gift from God and micro computers were stuff from fantasy land.

But now, it's gonna take them 13 years to do the same damn thing? It's 50 years later. At this point NASA should be able to say 'We're going to the moon Next week. And we figure to have a Mars Mission launching in time to get the promo toys on the shelves before Christmas.'

2018? By that time Carmarck will be taking digital pics on Phobos to use as textures for DOOM 7.

Everytime NASA announces anything they prove that they're so far behind the curve it's laughable.

D

Lots of Video-Casts out there (1)

StreetFire.net (850652) | more than 9 years ago | (#13569945)

Not sure why Apple (or is it this article?) is saying there isn't a lot of "Video pod-casts" out there. I have about ~50 different people regularly uploading video shows to my free video hosting server. It ranges from the proffesional to the ....er....uhm....home movie. People have been making home movie shows since the portable video camera were made in what, the 1960's? Just because you trademark a term doesn't make it "new". The only thing really new here is offering a centralized easy to use interface to search RSS feeds of existing vCast and IPTV content. (which I do think is very cool). Maybe this was misreported, but IMOHO the bigger news story here is having an Agregator of the existing IPTV content, and that I think is good stuff. -Adam

I don't think it will take off (3, Insightful)

sveskemus (833838) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570003)

I don't think video podcasting will take off in the same way as audio podcasting.

It's technically pretty easy to make a decent sounding audio podcast (are we going to have to call it that from now on?). All you need is a decent microphone to record it on, a piece of software to edit it with and you're good. Recording voice so that it sounds good and natural is easy.

Making a decent video podcast is more demanding. I know good video cameras are getting cheaper and cheaper but no matter the quality of the camera you're still looking at somebody's home video unless the lighting is done properly, the sound is recorded by someone who knows what they're doing[1] and you're looking at a person who does not look like he's living in his mom's basement.

In short, a lot more can go wrong when you're moving from just sound to sound and video.

Commercial video podcasting may be interesting. It would be cool to get the news to put on your video iPod. But I think that will be made obsolete pretty quickly with some sort of wireless broadband and mobile phones.

[1] Recording sound for an audio podcast is easy. You speak directly into the microphone. If you have to film the damn thing you'd better move the microphone out of the picture or get a contact mic. Otherwise it will look extremely bad.

Re:I don't think it will take off (1)

Gumber (17306) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570382)

Video may be more difficult, so there might be less of it, but that's probably fine because the opportunities for consuming video are far fewer than the opportunities for consuming audio.

iPorn? (1)

Electric Eye (5518) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570030)

I'm sure it's probably available already, but wonder how many iPorn Podcasts will be available by the end of the year.

"Hello, Apple? Yes, I'd like the new Jenna Jameson iPod Nano, please."

why VODcasts? (1)

recharged95 (782975) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570037)

iPod morphs into a cellphone iPod, morphs into a video iPod (with integrated cellphone eventually).

Looks like a Nokia phone with Verizon Vcast.

I see 2 battelships coming towards each other (computer & telcom industries) and the playing field is media (i.e content providers). And the winner will be the one with the best GUI (I bet).

DTV / Broadcast Machine (2, Interesting)

believekevin (701120) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570044)

Hopefully this will encourage even greater participation in the DTV / Broadcast Machine [participatoryculture.org] projects. Broadcast Machine does all the RSS work for posting video and DTV is a f/oss client that mimics the iTunes interface. Democratized video is imminent.

Video iPod? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570100)

video ipod





I think we're going in circles here [guenthoer.de]

What this means for U.S. broadband (3, Insightful)

valmont (3573) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570111)

Make better use of our home broadband connectivity? [theappleblog.com] . I'm seeing few people addressing the costs and practicality of hosting all this new content.

Re:What this means for U.S. broadband (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570282)

There are hosts out there that will serve the media files you create: ourmedia.org, archive.org, ibiblio.org are all free... Some are pretty cheap like libsyn.com

Podcasters and videobloggers have been addressing this issue for a year now.

Apple growing up maybe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570132)

It seems that Apple are just calling video-blogging thru iTunes "iPodcasting". I think it was wise of them not to announce / market blitz this feature, while it might be new for iTunes & iPod (to come), waching video on a portable device was not invented by them. So, it seems that Apple sees iPodcasting as adding value to their products and just added it in because they can make it just work for its customers (we can hope).

Old news: MacDailyNews reported this on July 29th (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570277)

MacDailyNews: The next big thing? Apple's iTunes 4.9 supports Video Podcasts (with example) - July 29, 2005
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comme nts/6420/ [macdailynews.com]

So who would be crazy enough to publish (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570287)

To me, Video PodCasting sounds like a a quick way to the poorhouse - what do you get if people are able to find your Video Podcast through iTunes and actually start watching it? Insane bandwidth bill, that's what. I don't understand how audio podcasts today do not have this problem after Apple introduced a whole mass of people to the concept all at once with a huge cetralized DB to search through.

What I would like to see is some way for RSS podcast feeds to be able to make reference only to a BitTorrent stream, and have iTunes use that behind the scenes to aquire data (it could still use the normal way if preferred).

Or possibly this is a good use of that whole-internet proxy Google was trying to build, make reference to your padcast through that and let Google cache it, Or, I suppose Apple could decide to cache popular Vido Podcasts as well.

Re:So who would be crazy enough to publish (1)

rasterboy (871) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570926)

Insane bandwidth bill...

As mentioned, check out ourmedia.org, archive.org, ibiblio.org for free hosting, and libsyn.com for very cheap hosting. Your bandwidth bill = $0.00

Tiki TV (2, Informative)

barfy (256323) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570299)

Get Itunes, go to podcasts search on Tiki. Watch Tiki TV. Try episode 8 first then go find the rest. AWESOME!

Re:Tiki TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13570688)

THANK YOU!

I downloaded an episode after reading your post and I love it!

Re:Tiki TV (1)

Neop2Lemus (683727) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570870)

Fantastic!

Witty, sexy, and full of knowledge about great drinks as well!

But enough about me, thanks for the podcast tip.

Why video iPods matter (1)

Gumber (17306) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570319)

First off, once they do release a video enabled iPod, I'd expect to see the features to quickly spread across most of their product line (at least the hard disk based devices) pretty quickly, much as the photo feature has. Apple needs a way to drive existing users to upgrade to larger capacities and at this point higher bitrate files probably isn't enough reason.

Next up, I hope they consider putting a decent speaker in it. It doesn't have to be great, but it should be decent for reproducing human speech. This is important because my bet is that one of the biggest uses of the video feature won't be watching 30 or 60 minute videos, or even 10 minute podcasts. It will be sharing 2-3 minute clips with friends. It could be a music video, or a section of John Stewart's monologue from the night before.

People used to talk about last night's tv shows around the watercooler. These days, the media is too fragmented for such conversations, but people still need cultural reference points. A video iPod would let them carry culture that they can share with friends and colleagues.

CODEC (1)

Fussen (753791) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570712)

Come on chums, let's talk about the real topic of conversation! CODEC!! Obviously quicktime I bet, but.. what's the tech eh? H.264? Sorenson? Does it have to be 176 x 132 as the Ipod Nano screen shows? Can it scale? The Audio I can only assume is AAC/MP3/MP4

Answers. I need Answers, or at least an effort :D

It's been there from day one (1)

Lepton68 (116619) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570730)

Video podcast support has been there from the beginning. Tiki Bar TV was there on day one, I believe. For another good one, try Rocketboom. For a tech one, try Systm (videos). Try Insane Films as well.

Seen this in July (1)

SqyD (256970) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570907)

I was introduced to vodcasting by this feed [vodcast.nl] by 3voor12 in early July this year (press release [vodcast.nl] in english and a dutch article [3voor12.vpro.nl] ). It's contents is basicly short impresions and interviews (mostly in dutch) with various artists. This is just another of many services by 3voor12 [3voor12.nl] , the progressive digital culture department of dutch public broadcaster VPRO [www.vpro.nl] . They have loads of free high quality on demand and live streaming content like music radioshows, concerts and much more. They use the services of VODcast.nl [vodcast.nl] (in english) by the company JetStream [jet-stream.nl] .
Breakthrough of the year? No, but will any rss spinoff every be? It still one of my personal top feeds.

Whose got the trademark on... (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 9 years ago | (#13570998)

Who has the trademark on iPorncast? That's where the money's going to be made.
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