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Opera Free as in Beer

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the well-isn't-that-special dept.

The Internet 937

nekura writes "Just last month, Opera was celebrating their 10 year anniversary by giving away free registration codes; now they've trumped that by offering Opera for free. Quoth their site, 'Opera has removed the banners, found within our browser, and the licensing fee. Opera's growth, due to tremendous worldwide customer support, has made todays milestone an achievable goal. Premium support is available.' Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now has virtually no reason not to."

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Torrents (5, Informative)

BrianJOpera (916094) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602854)

torrents [opera.com]
save the servers :P

Re:Torrents (-1, Redundant)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602885)

Slightly OT, but I thought of your link as a great way to infect thousands of computers at once... Not that I distrust you or anything, but I'll download my version from the regular website. I trust Opera to be able to size their pipes.

Re:Torrents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13603016)

Pretty funny from someone with a link in their sig.

Free is good... (0)

d3bruts1d (639027) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602859)

Free Opera is even better!

Re:Free is good... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602914)

Great, so all the customers like me who handed over our hard earned money were suckered? No refund, no explanation, nothing. I'm migrating to Mozilla, I'm sick of opera (the company, not the broswer).

Re:Free is good... (3, Informative)

nicomen (60560) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602930)

If you have bought a license during the last 30 days I think you are entitled to a refund.

You still get premium support if you have registered. Some people value that much more than removal of 40 pixels of ads :-)

Re:Free is good... (5, Informative)

d3bruts1d (639027) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602963)

Yup... Opera has stated in the IRC, Blog, and forums that if you purchased Opera in the last 30 days you can get a full refund. I've purchased Opera no less than 5 times over the years (home, work, family, new version, etc.) and still I don't have an issue with Opera now releasing the product as free. I'll continue to support the product and the company. I like doing that for quality software.

Re:Free is good... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602931)

As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted.

You fool.

Good (4, Insightful)

Metasquares (555685) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602860)

They had no hope of competing with Firefox and IE, despite the merits of their browser, so long as they charged for it while the other two were free.

Re:Good (2, Insightful)

varmittang (849469) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602909)

I'm just wondering how they are going to make money now since the banners were supporting the freebees and the subscribtion or whatever for the paying customers. Are they going to do a thing where you have to pay for adding on personnal extentions to Opera or something?

Re:Good (4, Insightful)

Cyn (50070) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602987)

I don't think Opera was making much money with their free desktop browser anyway.

Their main profits are from embedded devices (PDAs and the like) that buy licenses to use their browser, because it's fast and small and has good support of all the desired features these days.

Course, I haven't seen a recent version of Netfront - they may be losing ground to them, or they may still be way ahead...

Re:Good (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602996)

As far as I can tell, the Mobile versions of Opera are still either limited or payfor, so I guess Opera realised the way the wind was blowing, and has stuck with the niche market where it is actually somewhat of a market leader. The free desktop versions are all about brand building and goodwill.

Re:Good (4, Informative)

It doesn't come easy (695416) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603002)

According to Opera, their revenue was equally split between advertising, the fee, and search engines (not sure what this is -- does Opera run their own search engine?). Considering that no more than 3% of Opera users ever paid the fee, and considering you can still pay for premium support, it doesn't sound like it will take much to make up the difference. I, for example, never tried Opera becuase of the fee. Now I will install it and use it or Firefox, depending on which one gives the best experience (IE lost any chance of consideration as long as it is the security problem that it is -- and as far as I can see Microsoft will keep IE tightly integrated into the OS and thereby maintain it as the premium vector for security issues in Windows. It's bad enough I can't remove it, I'm surely not going to use it). I would bet that many others will do the same for Opera.

re: good (2, Insightful)

ed.han (444783) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602933)

i've been using opera for several years now and prefer it to firefox, mainly b/c it's got a smaller resource footprint than either IE or firefox, IMX, and it does (again IMX) render pages faster than either IE or firefox. i've heard that said by others who've compared browsers as well. to me, that makes the banner ads not so bad. and is it really credible to dis banner ads considering that there's a banner ad on the this very site? :>

ed

No reason? I think not. (5, Insightful)

rockclimber (660746) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602865)

Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to.

Except those who want free as in speech.

Re:No reason? I think not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602891)

I'm feeling rather dense this morning, so could you please explain.

Re:No reason? I think not. (-1, Flamebait)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602907)

I'm feeling rather dense this morning, so could you please explain.

That's a typicel AC feeling, just don't pay attention to what you don't understand and resume your life.

Re:No reason? I think not. (1)

demastri (579215) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602999)

I'm feeling rather dense this morning, so could you please explain.

That's a typicel AC feeling, just don't pay attention to what you don't understand and resume your life.

actually, he was doing the OPPOSITE of not paying attention to what he didn't understand - he was ASKING FOR HELP TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

nice reply. it's clear the only difference between you and him is that he KNOWS what he has to learn (and all the attendant consequences).

Re:No reason? I think not. (5, Interesting)

LLuthor (909583) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602910)

Its easier to get Opera to make a change to their browser than Firefox. I needed a specific CSS feature that was used by my company on its pages, and neither FF or Opera supported it properly. I submitted the bug to Opera and to FF. I also wrote a patch later that week for FF. The FF developers completely ignored me and my patch and any further requests. Meanwhile, Opera's next beta had the problem fixed with no further interaction from me, except for an email request for a way to reproduce the bug. FF is open-source only in name and the fact that I can see the code. Every part of the development is totally closed.

One question: (3, Insightful)

hummassa (157160) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602955)

was the CSS feature in question a standard CSS feature, or something non-standard your company used from IE?

Re:One question: (2, Interesting)

ceeam (39911) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602992)

Oh, don't tell me that Mozilla is so pure about it. They even have now document.all['..'] in quirks mode (IIRC).

mod parent up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13603011)

i think it's easier to get a job at opera than to get a cvs account for firefox.

Re:No reason? I think not. (5, Insightful)

poptones (653660) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603024)

What are you talking about? The fact you HAD the source code to the firefox browser allowed you to solve the problem within your company with no dependance upon anyone else. Whether or not the Firefox developers moved your patch into the distribution, you still had the problem solved within your infrastructure because you were able to patch Firefox yourself.

Open source does not mean the project leaders will solve every problem for the asking. Open source means you have the freedom and the information required to solve the problem yourself.

Words (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602960)

Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to.
Except those who want free as in speech.
Those who want free as in speech wasn't on the verge of switching before.

Re:No reason? I think not. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13603013)

Except those who want free as in speech.

I do not think that "free speech" means what you think it means.

Next Step (3, Insightful)

someguy456 (607900) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602869)

Obviously Opera has realized that a browser with a cost can no longer survive in this post-2000 market. However, I wonder how long it will take until they open source it?

Re:Next Step (2, Insightful)

sH4RD (749216) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602901)

Never, as long as Opera still makes it's real money on mobile phones powered by the Opera engine.

Re:Next Step (5, Insightful)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602983)


How about "Never"... Opera actually make a PROFIT out of their browser business.. which is certainly better than "survival". Their main profit comes from their device platform but some people are indeed willing to pay for a better quality browser.

Opera is much better, and quicker, to use than either of the other popular browsers out there, and some organisations will continue to pay for Opera based on that responsiveness and security. More often people will pay for the mobile browser however. If there is common code between the two then Opera would be releasing the crown jewels for free and would cease to be a VIABLE company.

Open Source is NOT always the only answer, some people have to make a living.

Can someone please explain to me... (4, Insightful)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602872)

the advantages of using Opera over Firefox?

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602918)

I'll sum up the basic pro-Opera arument:

OMGZORS OPERA HAD BUILT IN GESTURES FIRST!!111!!one!!

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (1)

Burann (916084) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602922)

I find it more complete in its default installation (Opera that is), not complaning about Firefox but it tends to break plugins when its updated.

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (4, Funny)

Errtu76 (776778) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602948)

smaller binary name == less chance on RSI while executing it from the command line

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (1)

wondafucka (621502) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602962)

Yes, it's for lazy people. Like you.

Joking aside, for me it's about Look and Feel. Firefox has everything and more, once you tweak it enough. Opera works just the way I want it to, out of the box. Your needs will be different than mine.

On a different note, I'm not going to upgrade. I LIKE the ads. You see some crazy, dark-corner-of-the-internet things being advertised.

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602967)

Get out of your Windows-centric box you peon. Firefox is next to useless on OS X, Opera isn't. Sounds like a reason to me.

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (1)

prefect42 (141309) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602972)

An in built mode to zoom web pages making it resolution independent. Means that you can actually see a web page sensibly on a high res display.

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (1)

Jinjuku (762364) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603015)

Well, Opera was what FF is, 4 years befor FF was. Nothing wrong with sticking with a company that is so ahead of the curve.

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (2, Informative)

Unnamed Chickenheart (882453) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603019)

If you want to just download, install and surf, Opera is for you.

Opera is not as modificapable as FF, but it's also set up to be ok for the most users.

On the over hand, if you're craveful you'll most likely prefer FF. E.g. I love that FF comes without Flash pre-installed. What do I want those comercials for? =)

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (5, Informative)

simetra (155655) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603020)

  • pop-up blocker, mouse gestures, etc, built in; no need to download/trust/install extensions from god knows who
  • changing settings, you don't need to close and re-open it every bloody time
  • built-in IRC client
  • built-in email client
  • built-in bit torrent client
  • highly-configurable thru gui, not through text file hacks
  • produced by an actual company with an actual interest in quality moreso than freedom/clunky-breakiness

These are the main reasons I can think of, besides the features that are probably common to Opera and Firefox, such as being very fast (I didn't use FF long enough to tell if it was as fast as Opera), having community-built themes, etc.

Basically, it comes "out of the box" ready to go and requires much, much, much less dicking around with to get it Just The Way I Like. This is really important to actual users, believe it or not.

Re:Can someone please explain to me... (5, Informative)

adolfojp (730818) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603023)

Imagine Firefox with most of its plugins in a smaller, more responsive package, and not feeling that you are using a Frankenbrowser.

Now imagine being able to disable any page's design so that you can improve readability. Also imagine being able to store a number of pages in sessions instead of individual bookmarks. Imagine a button that stores the links of the pages that you have just closed in case that you want to open them again. Imagine true page zooming, a RSS reader, irc chat, and a gmail like mail client in less than 4 MB.

Whenever I use anything else I feel as if I am not getting the whole internet experience.

Cheers,
Adolfo

Great News for Standards Compliance (4, Insightful)

stinerman (812158) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602874)

I'm certainly glad that they are doing this even though I don't plan to use Opera in the near future. More alternatives will push web developers to use standards instead of just coding for IE.

Re:Great News for Standards Compliance (4, Insightful)

morcego (260031) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602936)

I'm not sure.

I have a feeling that a free-Opera will hurt Firefox's marketshare more than it will hurt IE's.

Re:Great News for Standards Compliance (1)

footissimo (869107) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603025)

I agree - from my own site stats, it seems like there are those people who stick with IE and those who use other browsers (its 99% Windows users). When the Opera free licence came out last time (the one-day, birthday offer thingy) I saw more of a change in firefox % than IE. Not that it was a huge drop anyway

Its good news anyway..more choice and competition and all that.

Ho Hum

Yeah, right. (2, Funny)

Levine (22596) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602878)

Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to.

Yeah, cause I was just biding my time with Firefox until Opera was free. Right.

Re:Yeah, right. (1)

Hektor_Troy (262592) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602998)

Yes, obviously you were. I mean, that's why you were on the verge of switching, right?

So, what happened? You found out that the Fat Lady was your mom, and she was schtupping the Fat Guy?

Sorry... (-1, Troll)

ellem (147712) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602879)

I still don't care. In 2000 Opera was really cool. In 2005? Ohh look another browser - yawn.

My reasons for not switching. (5, Interesting)

Alranor (472986) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602881)

Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to

AdBlock Plus
BugMeNot
CustomizeGoogle
DictionarySearch
Farkit
Gmail Notifier
Nuke Anything
Plain Text Links
Switch Proxy Tool
Greasemonkey

I'm glad there's a version without the annoying advertising, but it wasn't that which was keeping me from using Opera.

Re:My reasons for not switching. (5, Informative)

hkmwbz (531650) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602915)

Most of those are either available outside the browser (notifiers, etc.), or possible to do in Opera in some way (User JS to convert links in plain text files, built-in searches are there already, etc.). Greasemonkey is just the Firefox equivalent of User JS in Opera. It's rather easy to add a button to Opera which gets a BugMeNot login for the current page, too. As an example.

Just FYI.

Re:My reasons for not switching. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602965)

Listen to what you are telling people. Take an application with extensions and instead look spend time trying to find workarounds. No thanks.

I tried Opera and I liked it, but I'm not messing around with a proxy tool and trying to find other external programs anymore. The day Opera has built in ad blocking similar to Firefox's extension, I'll consider using regularly.

Re:My reasons for not switching. (1)

hkmwbz (531650) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603018)

"Listen to what you are telling people. Take an application with extensions and instead look spend time trying to find workarounds."
So what you are saying is that hunting down extensions is a pain in the neck, and an integrated approach (like Opera) is better for you? Some would consider extensions to be workarounds for missing functionality, you know.
"The day Opera has built in ad blocking similar to Firefox's extension, I'll consider using regularly."
http://nontroppo.org/wiki/BlockAdvertisements [nontroppo.org]

http://nontroppo.org/wiki/OperaAdblock [nontroppo.org]

Re:My reasons for not switching. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602952)


Also, free now, but for how long? No one knows.

With FireFox you know that it WILL stay free.

Usefull replacement for Ad-block (1)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602974)

www.privoxy.org .. great local proxy for ad-blocking and a few other things .
Requires a bit of RTFM but it will work with Linux , OS X and even windows and is highly customisable and the default configs are rather good (though you may want to alter the cookie settings).

Hopefully Microsoft will do this as well! (4, Funny)

mynickwastaken (690966) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602882)

I hope that Microsoft will decide also to give Internet Explorer for free. My desktop is full of banners and popup windows.

Pretty smart (1)

Willeh (768540) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602883)

They seem to have taken a page out of the book of WordPerfect (back in the day, say 10-15 years ago): Let users use Opera for free at home/ work, then make money off of Support/ Embedded Opera in Portable devices.

Good move, I love Opera. It beats the roll-your-own-browser Firefox by about 10 miles, for me at least. If only it could do flashblock.

Re:Pretty smart (1)

hkmwbz (531650) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602937)

"the advantages of using Opera over Firefox?"
Smaller, faster, yet more functional without having to rely only on third party software. Easier to customize the UI too.

Re:Pretty smart (1)

nicomen (60560) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602970)

Oh but it can, take a look at my previous post about User JavaScript and other features that are equivalent to Firefox extensions. I believe there are at least three different ad blockers approaching the solution differently.

Re:Pretty smart (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602971)

They seem to have taken a page out of the book of WordPerfect

WordWho?

I hope Opera does not follow WordPerfect all the way to total oblivion.

Re:Pretty smart (1)

Willeh (768540) | more than 8 years ago | (#13603010)

That's funny, i seem to recall Wordperfect being bought by Novell first, then Corel, where it's still being sold as the WordPerfect suite.

Didn't work well for me. (2, Informative)

sheared (21404) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602884)

I tried the freebee last month, and had several common sites I visit not open correctly (sites that worked fine in IE and Firefox). It was nice otherwise, but just not enough there to motivate me to switch from what I use now.

Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602886)

I guess now Firefox and IE are redundant.

A reason not to.. (-1, Troll)

ArcRiley (737114) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602887)

> Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to.

Here's a reason why not to: free as in beer != freedom, and for those of us who value freedom, giftware isn't enough. Prehaps in the pre-Mozilla days Opera could have made a run with a proprietary, giftware browser..

What's a good way of putting this.. this move is a bit too little, too late, IMHO.

Re:A reason not to.. (3, Interesting)

Knome_fan (898727) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602943)

I agree that this is a reason not to use it for people who want free (as in freedom) software.
However, I think those people are clearly in the minority.

Finally, I don't like you implying that people who disagree with you on free software don't value freedom, that's just stupid and insulting.

Re:A reason not to.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602984)

and unfortunately it is now the American Way. (tm)

Future development (1)

Jammet (709764) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602888)

Now, from this point forward Opera is going to be freely available for everyone on a desktop PC.

Opera will gain more ground and hopefully spread it's browser successfully across the handheld and phone market.

Future development will not skid to a stillstand however - but let us hope that future additions and changes to the webbrowser work out for the better. Like - for example a graphical front end to filter.ini!

In the past you had a right to say "I'm paying for this and I demand that feature X be fixed/implemented/improved.". Not anymore.

And vice versa (3, Insightful)

Guspaz (556486) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602889)

Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to.

And anyone who wasn't on the verge of switching has virtually no reason to do so. I mean, this is all well and good, but Firefox is working rather nicely, why should I switch to Opera? How is Opera going to make my browsing experience better in a way that cannot be replicated via Firefox extensions? And how will Opera provide to me the functionality that I have via Firefox extensions that isn't part of Opera?

Hmmm (1)

stevey (64018) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602895)

I guess this explains why they felt so comfortable giving away registration codes [slashdot.org] for their 10th anniversary.

I'd imagine that was planned, partly to see how much demand there was for the browser if it were free.

Personally I use Firefox 99% of the time, but I have taken the time to test sites in Opera in the past.

Free as in beer (1)

nicomen (60560) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602898)

Which means it is also cool, fuzzy and makes you dizzy! Purrfect ;)

Some people might even get courageous after using it. And others might even get more chicks/hunks.

Don't forget to pay the newly released community portal a visit too: http://my.opera.com/ [opera.com]

If you think you are going to miss some extensions when switching take a look at the informative postings here:

http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2005/01/opera-and-f irefox-extensions [virtuelvis.com]

or here

http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2005/09/opera-and-f irefox-extensions-ii [virtuelvis.com]

For even more User JavaScripts look at http://userjs.org/ [userjs.org]

Gentoo (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602903)

It's already in Portage, too.

Free Opera, not exactly :) (1)

Karaman (873136) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602905)

Well this version may be "Free of charge" yes, but it is not "free" yet! Noone has the right to change it yet :)

thinking of switching? (3, Interesting)

illtron (722358) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602906)

Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to."
Who *thinks* of switching? It's not like you have to invest in new hardware.

In my experience, people get fed up with IE and just switch. There's nobody out there who's thinking, "gee, the fact that just about everything out there is better than IE is tempting...but, man I sure do like Microsoft!"

Sorry, but nobody was holding out for free Opera. If you couldn't take IE's shit for another day, you're already using Firefox, not waiting for an also-ran browser to stop charging.

Free Activation Codes For Naught? (1, Funny)

ColdCoffee (664886) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602913)

So let me get this straight....a couple of weeks after offering Opera activation codes for 'FREEEEE!', the turn around and negate their 'exclusive, one day only' offer by offering their product to any old schmuck? I feel so....common. *sigh*

Re:Free Activation Codes For Naught? (1)

ashwinds (743227) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602978)

Hmmm - this makes it even more exclusive - you are dead sure it will not happen again

Re:Free Activation Codes For Naught? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602985)

Imagine how those of us who paid for the damn thing feel.

The Beginning Of The End (1)

Immercenary_2000 (863998) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602934)

I downloaded opera when they had the day a couple weeks back where it was free and without ads. I thought it was definately a good browser, but if they are giving it away all the time now how are they going to stay in business? The summary says they will offer premium support, but honestly how much support do people really need for a browser? Unless they make other stuff I don't see them making enough money to stay in business this way. That being said it is awesome that it's free now and more people will use it.

Nope, no reason at all, except... (2, Interesting)

karlandtanya (601084) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602945)

printing [opera.com]


Oh, and site compatability.


Seriously, I love everything about opera except printing. I browse using opera, print using firefox, and access MSIE-only sites (just a few that really don't work; most just say they don't) with konqueror.


patchwork, patchwork, patchwork.

Opera (4, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602947)

Opera is a really good web browser. It is fast, renders most pages really well, and has a good UI. However, the spot where FireFox beats it, is in the Extensions department. Extensions are what makes firefox the best browser out there. The Web Developer extension makes web development a breeze, and FlashBlock makes sure I don't have any animations hogging my CPU cycles unless I want to. Oh, and the Javascript Debugger is the best tool ever. It's not the best debugger, and ironically, is kind of buggy itself, but, it has saved me hours of infesting my code with alerts() in order to find out the problem.

Some info on their new revenue model (5, Informative)

ziggamon2.0 (796017) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602949)

Cut and paste from their investors FAQ:
1. Search partners

The Opera Browser features integrated search and shopping bars, and partner companies pay a fee to Opera every time a user utilizes the integrated search or shopping bar. Opera cooperates with a few select partners it feels can contribute value to its product and users. Deals with companies like Google, Fast, Lycos, InfoSeek, Yahoo, Amazon, and eBay are showing constant growth in revenues for Opera.

2. Rendering engine as a separate product
Opera delivers a full-featured, embeddable version of its desktop browser that can be integrated into a wide range of applications. Adobe and Macromedia are important partners in this segment.

3. Opera Web Mail
Opera provides a free and a pay service Webmail. When users pay for the premium service, Opera splits the revenue with Outblaze, the company that operates the service.

It seems to me they have made a very wise choice. Being ad-free will increase the popularity of the browser tremendously, and thereby increase their incomes from sponsored search partners, like Google, which will probably more than compensate for their incomes from the paid browser, and annoying ads.

Free Beer at the Opera (1)

chriseh (220654) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602957)

Sorry, I prefer free speech. Also, I prefer a browser that will allow me to write domain wide cookies (domain.com) without having to resolve domain.com to an IP.

Why not. (1)

ceeam (39911) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602975)

I'd use Opera instead of FF (I guess) if it had better ads blocking options. Maybe now, that they removed their own banners, including some ad-blocking options would not look hypocritical anymore.

Let the Opera vs Firefox flamewars begin! (1)

Mustang Matt (133426) | more than 8 years ago | (#13602977)

Shield on!

I have a feeling this is a little too late but maybe I'm wrong. Being an excellent cross platform browser I can only see this help the industry support standards.

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13602989)

...they give this version for free, but for next one you'll pay.

I can't believe that Opera is adopting market practices from drug sellers.

Ironically... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13603017)

... the download doesn't work in Opera 6.
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