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IBM Thinkpads now in Titanium

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the good-enough-for-jets dept.

IBM 265

Darksoftnet writes "Lenovo (who now owns IBM's PC business), has introduced a new shade to the Thinkpad range with the launch of a Z-Series laptop that comes both in a "classic black" case or a "special-edition" brushed titanium cover."

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yay!!! wait... (5, Funny)

jigjigga (903943) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612439)

Whoopty doo?

Re:yay!!! wait... (3, Insightful)

utnow (808790) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612476)

And they all wanna be Apple.

Re:yay!!! wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612519)

And my next Thinkpad (I have 3) is going to be a Powerbook.

Re:yay!!! wait... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612769)

You weren't expecting the Chinese to be innovative, were you?

Re:yay!!! wait... (-1, Flamebait)

trewornan (608722) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612791)

What company wouldn't want to be apple. Who else has so many gullible customers they can sell standard hardware at twice the price. It's the most basic of marketing tricks . . . sell the lifestyle. Ironic really, these applets believe they "think different" but they're actually the true sheep of this world.

In Related News: (5, Funny)

Artie_Effim (700781) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612440)

The on keypad volume now goes to 11 !!

Re:In Related News: (2, Interesting)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612475)

Actually, it goes to 14 on both my four-year-old X21 (which I'm typing this post on) and a brand new (shipped 2005-09-09) R50e that I was setting up for a friend.

Picture? (1)

jgbishop (861610) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612441)

Is there a picture of it anywhere? I didn't see one in the article (although I did only glance at it).

Re:Picture? (4, Funny)

Willeh (768540) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612456)

Yeah, here you go: http://www.apple.com/powerbook [apple.com] . This should spawn a whole new version of those commercials where they drop someone's laptop computer on the ground. They might have to drop Steve Jobs' Laptop, and then the dude would say "That's not my notebook". Oh, the hilarity!

You might cringe, but at least it beats the free Opera dupe story that was originally here.

Re:Picture? (1)

dsginter (104154) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612568)

and then the dude would say "That's not my notebook". Oh, the hilarity!

IBM made a special video for "internal use only" that had that commercial with a couple more seconds of footage. They'd hired the Dell Guy [cnn.com] after he was busted for marajuana.

Basically, the footage was that the two guys from the "that's not my thinkpad" commercial were sitting at the hotel bar later on and the Dell Guy walks up to them and says, "Dude, where's my notebook?"

Pretty funny stuff but it would've been much funnier if they would have "crossed that line" and made it part of the public commercial.

Re:Picture? (3, Informative)

ploss (860589) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612551)

There's some here. http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/ [lenovo.com]

Coral cache (-1, Redundant)

Saiyine (689367) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612446)


Coral cache of the link [nyud.net] .

There are no pictures in the article, though.

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Re:Coral cache (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612461)

Hey buddy, if you're gonna advertise in your sig, can you at least make it a real sig so I can turn it off?

9th (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612447)

what is with these titainum slashdot filters

TiPad (5, Funny)

LittleGuernica (736577) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612455)

If there is a big Lenovo sticker on the lid right in the middle, that looks like it's covering something up, something fruitlike, then don't buy them....they could be a few years old..

Re:TiPad (4, Insightful)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612532)

I wouldn't mind having one of these, though. I have an iBook myself, my girlfriend has had an iBook and now has a ThinkPad, and a friend used to have a TiBook and now has a ThinkPad. All of us actually prefer the Apple hardware, which is queiter, lighter, runs longer on a battery, and has a proper CPU architecture, and (used to?) look better.

Of course, it depends on what's most important to you. A ThinkPad can run Windows, is generally faster (depending on the application), costs less on initial purchase, and has an internal wireless network adapter that is supported by Linux (I use a supported USB one with my iBook).

ibook vs thinkpad (2, Interesting)

brlewis (214632) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612635)

You may not have noticed this using a USB wireless network adapter, but the built-in ibook wireless doesn't get signal very well. I have an IBM thinkpad 600E with a Belkin PCMCIA wireless card. I get 80-90% signal in places where my wife's ibook get's none. I think Apple wants to sell lots of airport stations. (This is with a linksys B router).

Re:ibook vs thinkpad (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612691)

Seriously... check the antenna is plugged in correctly on her WiFi card. The iBooks have truly great wifi reception normally, so I'm guessing something is wrong with your wife's model.

Lenovo (0)

nudeatom (740966) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612458)

I am still waiting for something exicting to happen here. When the sale went through I thought that Lenovo would try to break away from the wintel model and do something cool with PPC and linux. The wait continues.

Re:Lenovo (2, Insightful)

sspurrier (915063) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612544)

Why in the world would you assume that? Lenovo didn't purchase the power pc line or even any machines that use it. They bought the line to get the thinkpad which is a damn good corporate laptop and thats about it. What about the purchase made you think that PPC or linux was Lenovos focus? Lenovo is just another Wintel Vendor, albeit one with a good laptop product.

Re:Lenovo (4, Insightful)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612570)

I am still waiting for something exicting to happen here. When the sale went through I thought that Lenovo would try to break away from the wintel model and do something cool with PPC and linux. The wait continues.

And what in God's name made you think that? They bought a division that makes laptops, running windows on intel chips. They're currently making laptops that run windows on intel chips. This should not be surprising They're in the business to make money, and linux/PPC isn't it.

Not to mention they didn't buy IBM's linux and PPC businesses.

They are doing things IBM would never have done with the Thinkpad line, but it's still a business - and I have to imagine customer demand for linux/PPC laptops is, outside of the /. market, quite low.

Re:Lenovo (3, Insightful)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612573)

Why?! ThinkPads are perfectly good machines as they are; possibly the only PC laptops that don't plain suck in one way or another. Ever since IBM sold the line, I've been afraid the new owner would screw it up somehow.

Re:Lenovo (2, Interesting)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612604)

As for doing ``something cool with Linux and PPC'', here are a few things to chew on:

  - Linux runs like a charm on both ThinkPads and Apple notebooks. ThinkPads actually do a bit better, as they use supported wireless cards, whereas Apples have the cursed Broadcom chipset.

  - The main difference between the x86 and PPC CPUs is that x86s go faster, whereas PPCs are more energy efficient.

  - Of course, the CPU also affects what proprietary operating systems you can run. PPC allows you to run Mac OS X, whereas x86 allows you to run Windows.

  - However, you probably don't _really_ want either operating system. Windows is junk, and OS X is great in theory, but is unbearably slow compared to Linux. Just my experience, of course.

Re:Lenovo (1)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612858)

- The main difference between the x86 and PPC CPUs is that x86s go faster, whereas PPCs are more energy efficient.

If a processor uses a third of the power, but takes three times as long to process, the more power consuming chip will get more work done. Efficiency is work divided by power, correct? (Note: not a troll against PPC, just saying that a faster, more power-hungry processor might get more work done than a slower, lower power consumption processor.)

- Of course, the CPU also affects what proprietary operating systems you can run. PPC allows you to run Mac OS X, whereas x86 allows you to run Windows.

- However, you probably don't _really_ want either operating system. Windows is junk, and OS X is great in theory, but is unbearably slow compared to Linux. Just my experience, of course.


Score a point for the ThinkPad, then - precompiled software is more abundant for Linux/i386 than Linux/PPC.

Also, some ThinkPads (T, Z, and some R series, not X series, and nobody wants a G series) give you the option of using either a touchpad or a pointing stick, whereas Apple only gives you a touchpad.

Re:Lenovo (1)

drsmithy (35869) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612843)

I am still waiting for something exicting to happen here. When the sale went through I thought that Lenovo would try to break away from the wintel model and do something cool with PPC and linux.

I'd guess they're more interested in making things people are likely to buy.

And ... (-1, Troll)

gtoomey (528943) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612462)

Yesterday it was an unpaid ad for Oracle running on Linux, today its computer casings.

/. has really reached the bottom of the barrel if this is all they can find to report about. The decline started 6 months ago.

Re:And ... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612542)

then get the fuck out.

seriously, all you wankers that post and complain about the decline of slashdot really irk me.

if you dont like it, change it, if you cant change it, stfu or leave.

and yes, i'm here to stay

Re:And ... (-1, Offtopic)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612640)

and yes, i'm here to stay

We know, Taco

Re:And ... (1)

morgajel (568462) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612677)

[offtopic]
I've heard people making this exact same comment for YEARS. I was lurking on slashdot long before i made an account. I'd place it around mid 2001.

If you don't like it, go away. there's kuro5hin and arstechnica, even fark or somethingawful. Whiny posts aren't improving the quality of discourse around here.

[/offtopic]

to steer back on topic, I have a t42 for work and love it. I'd like to see what the differences really would be. lighter? heavier? more durable? what about the internals?

if it's just a fashion thing, no thanks, I prefer the black.

Re:And ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612698)


I've heard people making this exact same comment for YEARS. I was lurking on slashdot long before i made an account. I'd place it around mid 2001.


Ditto and N00B!

I'd place it at around 1998. It was always like this and will always be like this. BTW back then K5 sucked and had no users as did the other alternitives.

although I miss geekazoid. AKA GIZ

Re:And ... (1)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612890)

The Z60t (for "thin") is a 14" widescreen, weighs 4.5lbs and has integrated graphics.

The Z60m (for "multimedia") is a 15.4" widescreen, weighs 6.5lbs, and can have an ATI Mobility Radeon instead of integrated graphics.

Both are supposed to be "30%" more durable than a T series.

There's some other minor differences, as well.

Both weights are for basic black - with the titanium faceplate installed (basically, from what I've heard, it snaps on on top of the (black) LCD, so if you get a titanium model, but want black, you can just take it off, and it'll be good), add .25lbs.

Way to look like a powerbook, thinkpad (2, Informative)

luminea (594672) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612464)

http://www.ibmuser.idv.tw/viewtopic.php?t=19990 [ibmuser.idv.tw] I'll always think the real deal is sexier. I [heart] my Thinkpad.

Re:Way to look like a powerbook, thinkpad (1)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612502)

FWIW, I've heard rumors that the R60 and T60 will be the same way, with curves and all. (NOOOO!) Also, there's a Windows key.

Rumor has it that the Z series was going to be released by IBM, but Lenovo bought the company out.

The Z60t is a 4.5lb, 14" widescreen model with integrated graphics, meant for business.

The Z60m is a 6.5lb, 15.4" widescreen with integrated or ATI discrete graphics, meant for home.

The titanium COVER (yes, it's a faceplate) is .25lbs, on top of the base weight.

Re:Way to look like a powerbook, thinkpad (4, Informative)

BWJones (18351) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612510)

Yeah, so Lenovo has a titanium top cover on their laptop, while the Powerbook had a complete casing made of titanium. (The chassis was magnesium). Of course Titanium was expensive, and had problems with holding paint and could not be effectively anodized, leading to the new aluminum Powerbooks, but hey....They were sooo cool, and even though they have not been around for a couple of years, still look better than most of the current laptop offerings from other companies.

Re:Way to look like a powerbook, thinkpad (1)

CaptnMArk (9003) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612575)

how about some carbon fibre

aka

Acer Ferrari 4000

Re:Way to look like a powerbook, thinkpad (1)

a.d.trick (894813) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612844)

I agree,

As far as I can tell, this is just another 'gold-plating' feature - it looks cool on the outside, but really doesn't do much for anything in real life. The titanium cover *might* protect the lcd screen if it fell in such-and-such a manner but it's really only there because the word 'Titanium' sounds cool.

I'm not familiar with Macs so I don't know how well they're protected, but I have a Twinhead computer that has aluminum casing and several other nice features that really help maintain longevity when your are very mobile and use your computer 12+ hours a day.

Re:Way to look like a powerbook, thinkpad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612880)

ThinkPads (at least the T series) are all made of titanium under the black plastic outer shell. I've dropped mine on occassion and all you have to do is pop the plastic cover back togeter and you're good to go. Unlike the previous generation Powerbooks where the screen hinges broke if you looked at it sideways.

Big businesses reaction? (1)

Pichu0102 (916292) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612466)

Hmm, could this hurt sales to big businesses? I mean, it is targeted towards small and medium sized businesses. Most likely big businesses will be annoyed it's no longer targeted to them.

Special punishment (5, Insightful)

PincheGab (640283) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612470)

There should be a special punishment for people who post stories abut how something looks, and then the link has no pics of it...

Re:Special punishment (4, Informative)

MythMoth (73648) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612526)

Quite. Here's the best picture I could find:
http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/ [lenovo.com]

That's probably a fairly ephemeral link; this might hang around longer, but it's only a thumbnail:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/images/rt_titani umback_78.jpg [ibm.com]

From this page:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/zseries/index.ht ml [ibm.com]

I'm sure someone can do better than that.

Re:Special punishment (4, Informative)

tpgp (48001) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612576)

Here's a nice big pic [notebookreview.com]
Taken from Notebook reviews [notebookreview.com]

Looks quite nice

IBM did this before. (1)

Deathlizard (115856) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612684)

Looking at this picture this is nothing new.

We have a lot of Foreign exchange students here, and one of them has an IBM/LG branded laptop with the exact same color scheme, only it's a Pentium III laptop and the titanium color is just the color of the plastic instead of a true titanium cover.

I don't remember the Model number on the laptop, so I don't know which series it was, but I do know it was at least two to three years old.

Re:Special punishment (0, Troll)

Threni (635302) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612572)

> There should be a special punishment for people who post stories abut how
> something looks,

You could have ended the sentence there! It's just another dull, overpriced IBM laptop.

Re:Special punishment (0)

Roofus (15591) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612591)

I agree. Was this assclown in such a rush to get his story posted to Slashdot that he couldn't take the time to find a few links?

IBM or the Company that bought the computer part (1)

varmittang (849469) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612473)

So, is this IBM doing this or the computer company in China that bought IBM's PC division? I can never know who I'm buying from yet when dealing with IBM PCs right now.

Re:IBM or the Company that bought the computer par (2, Informative)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612646)

IBM designed most of this.

Lenovo, that Chinese computer company, is selling this.

Here's how it works:

When you order an IBM PC (read: ThinkPad or ThinkCentre) or an accessory, you're dealing with Lenovo. All models except for the Z series were completely designed by IBM, and the Z series was mostly designed by IBM.

When you get support for an IBM PC, (as far as I understand), you're calling IBM, not Lenovo.

When you order a server from IBM, you're dealing with IBM, and Lenovo has nothing to do with it.

beats my Panasonic Toughbook--Not! (1)

archermadness (784657) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612474)

Wow! What news! IBM has a laptop with a titanium top. That's going to put Panasonic to shame, especially since they've only had laptops with titanium tops (and bottoms and sides in some cases) for umpteen years.

When will people learn... (-1, Redundant)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612478)

to use the Coral Cache or MirrorDot?

The article is Slashdotted, but it's still accessible through Coral Cache and MirrorDot [mirrordot.org] .

Re:When will people learn... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612534)

The article isn't slashdottted - stop whoring. I'm sure the financial times can handle any traffic slashdot can throw at them.

Re:When will people learn... (1)

mangus_angus (873781) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612624)

"I'm sure the financial times can handle any traffic slashdot can throw at them."

Do not underestimate the power of the dark side.

Re:When will people learn... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612638)

It took me over a minute to load it - means to me the server is suffering.

Also, what's up with "It's been 5 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment"? I thought the delay was 2 minutes?

Re:When will people learn... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612672)

5 minutes? Luxury! I've had 18 mins between comments.

Stylin'! (1)

parasonic (699907) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612480)

Titanium--The LCD may still not be drop-proof, but it's sure as heck Michelan-proof.

Why is this news? (3, Insightful)

UnderAttack (311872) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612487)

So there is a different color thinkpad, and this is newsworthy? Not even a picture of the thing in the article. Nothing a can of spray paint wouldn't be able to do.

Re:Why is this news? (1)

parasonic (699907) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612515)

Titanium spraypaint?! I could make myself BULLETPROOF.

Poor Richard Sapper... (3, Interesting)

onpaws (685894) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612490)

For more design history of the thinkpad, check out the "Thinkpad Genesis Series" on:

http://www.thinkpads.com/Genesis3.htm [thinkpads.com]
http://www.thinkpads.com/Genesis%204.htm [thinkpads.com]

Richard Sapper is the German designer who designed the famous Artemide Tizio lamp (which also shares the Thinkpad's red controls and silver hinges).:

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/11/euwcm/ho_1988. 236.10.htm [metmuseum.org]

Whoa!!! What a great idea!!! (2, Funny)

bossesjoe (675859) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612492)

I wish Apple had thought of this

not IBM (-1, Troll)

sonictheboom (546359) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612497)

Why is this topic classified as 'IBM'. Can we have a new Lenovo logo please?

do those ppl know... (4, Funny)

C0vardeAn0nim0 (232451) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612509)

that titanium is flamable ???

ok, it takes in excess of 4000C to ignite it, but with the heat those things are putting out [theregister.co.uk] i believe they'll soon have to recall the notebooks and replace the titanium by asbestos or ceramic compounds...

Re:do those ppl know... (2, Funny)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612587)

Mmmm...AsbestosPad...

Those who refuse to learn from history... (4, Funny)

UpLateDrinkingCoffee (605179) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612511)

From the article (about how Thinkpads that are anything but black will be rejected by consumers):

IBM in 1999 offered individual buyers "optional coloured covers" for laptops in Mars Red Metallic, Andromeda Green or Polaris Blue for an extra US$30. The idea did not take off.

Uh, maybe because the charged $30 extra? Also, the color names sound like they are marketed to 8 year olds. Considering who buys these things, they would have been better off with "Merger Magenta" or "Big-bonus Blue". Seriously, titanium is not that extreme.

Re:Those who refuse to learn from history... (1)

fossa (212602) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612626)

Didn't Nokia's cell phones trounce Motorola's for offering colors and changeable faceplates when Motorola insisted on the "black with red LED" signature Motorola design? At least, that's what I was told on a tour at some Motorola museum.

So yeah, probably the increased cost had something to do with it. Or maybe they still marketed to business. As a lawyer do you really want to walk into a courtroom with an Andromeda Green laptop cover? Or wearing jeans and a bright T-shirt? Didn't think so. Also, I imagine the laptop buyer is often not the laptop user in a business setting; the user gets what she is given, not what she wants.

Whatever the reason for the failure, that one line comment at the article's end was inane.

Re:Those who refuse to learn from history... (2, Funny)

mydigitalself (472203) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612893)

in 1999 it was only 8 year olds who knew how to use laptops....

*sigh*

Ti + WiFi (4, Informative)

c4seyj0nes (669515) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612513)

Didn't Apple move to aluminum because the titanium interfered with WiFi reception?

Re:Ti + WiFi (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612581)

A fairly incoherent response from one of the image sites linked below that if correct answers your question (also, what does aluminum do that titanium doesn't? "costs less" is all I can think of):

Posted Sep 13, 2005, 2:25 PM ET by Jonathan Moore

"1) The Apple Titanium PowerBook had the weakest 802 reception because of the titanium case"

Actuly that was not the issue. The antenna was on the side of the body wich was carbon fiber. There is more of a sotry that has to do with the indstrual designers where to make the reseption good thay had to put some conductive paint on the out side of the carbon fiber but you could see it, if just barley, and the ID peopel did not like that so they had it removed. The reception was still in spec with no paint but is sucked.

Re:Ti + WiFi (1)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612673)

_Every_ metal will stop WiFi...
But titanium is more expensive (as material, to shape, ect)

First Yawn! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612520)

Ooooo, pretty color. Wake me up when there's "stuff that matters."

Pictures! (5, Informative)

Viceice (462967) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612529)

Pictures in stories here [laptoplogic.com] and here [engadget.com] . Enjoy!

Re:Pictures! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612835)

Hubba hubba.. I could stare at those babies all day...

Pictures (1)

taskforce (866056) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612536)

Here's a link to the IBM/Lenovo page with pictures which everyone's been asking for:

IBM [ibm.com]

Stinkpads should be black. Period. (1)

Flashpot (773365) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612552)

No fancy designs, no fancy colors. All business. The tri-color IBM (or lenovo) logo and the red stickpin against the black bacground are the trademarks of the beast. Leave it alone!

This is serious news... (5, Insightful)

tyroneking (258793) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612569)

... because it heralds the first noticeable change in the Thinkpad line since it was sold. Thinkpads have a reputation the workplace for reliability, performance and build quality; the corporate standard (usually HP) pales in comparison. Unlike the HP line, Thinkpads don't 'squeak' when you lean your hands on them, don't get too hot, don't make loud fan noises, don't crash mysteriously, and don't have their case colour rub off over time. A new titanium casing could be a disaster if it starts to rub off like it does on other makes of laptop because that will turn high-end corporate customers off in droves because it will be taken as emblematic of what will happen to the inside of the IBM laptop.

I know, sounds like a little thing, but the solid case is a mark of quality that Lenovo can't afford to lose.

PS I love my Thinkpad ;)

Re:This is serious news... (1)

kj_in_ottawa (838840) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612686)

I guess YMMV . I've run a dell, with its earie I'm openin squeak, for as long as my last 3 brickpads run time combined. In all fairnesss, this one hasn't yet been hit by a moped.... like the 2nd brickpad was.

I do miss the hard battery reboots and random shocks from the earphone jacks though.

Kenny

Re:This is serious news... (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612701)

I too love my thinkpad - an X30. It's at least several years old now.

It's got a Ti case "lid" on the flip-up part of the LCD. It's black. I've not had any "wear" problems for hte last two years that I've had it, and it looks brand new still.

Re:This is serious news... (1)

loyukfai (837795) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612772)

My perception is that the ThinkPad brand worths 70% of the IBM PC business, the other 30% (maybe less) is corporate support.

That leave 0% for its desktop products.

ThinkPad Legends [ibm.com]

This is just on the R-series (1)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612846)

The R-series is their budget, entry-level line. Perhaps threats of rub-off are one reason it isn't being used on the higher lines like the T-series.

(PS I also love my Thinkpad)

And by R (1)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612866)

I meant Z. ug.

Titanium composite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612571)

In case you didn't know, T-series thinkpad shells have been a titanium/plastic composite up until now.

Forgive my stupidity (1)

ChrisF79 (829953) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612574)

I was always under the impression that Apple originally went with Titanium because it was lighter. So of course in my infinity stupidity, I drew the conclusion that it was solid titanium. Was it just brushed? Is the IBM titanium purely for aesthetics or does it serve some sort of purpose?

Re:Forgive my stupidity (1)

WillerZ (814133) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612789)

"Brushed titanium" means that the titanium has been finished by brushing it. This gives a noticeable grain-like effect to the surface. It doesn't mean that it's a something else with titanium brushed over the top of it.

In this case, the titanium element is a removable fascia and not a structural element of the laptop - it's purely cosmetic.

Been there, done that (3, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612595)

When are they going to come up with ideas that truly make your laptop better. Sure titanium is stronger than plastic, but I bet it costs a lot more. If it doesn't you're getting gipped on the plastic version. I want a laptop with better battery life. They have made advancements in batteries, but these have been trumped by making chips and drives that require more power. Where's my 10 hour laptop? and I mean 10 hours while actually doing real work on the laptop.

Wireless? (0)

otter42 (190544) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612612)

So, vis-a-vis wireless connections, is this as bad a decision as Apple's to make the PowerBook out of Al? Because, honestly, I've never seen worse wireless capabilities in my life. The Airport Extreme in my 2005 PowerBook sucks beyond all possible belief. My old Orinoco PCMCIA card gets much better reception. And my friend's new Acer gets around 15dB better reception than my Orinoco!

(Although I don't know if I believe NetStumbler. 15dB sounds like too good to be true. Perhaps it's a small bug with the NDIS driver interface. In any case, his Acer *does* get a million times better reception than my PowerBook.)

So, all style, no substance?

Re:Wireless? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612729)

So, all style, no substance?

Rice, Rice, baby! If you buy Apple you get what you pay for. That is Looks, and only looks.

What next? (3, Funny)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612632)

What next, a black iPod? Oh wait...

Re:What next? (1)

tugfoigel (80286) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612763)

How about a spiffy shiny titanium one? Or even an armor-plated iPod [bit-tech.net] ?

About time for some style (1, Troll)

shanen (462549) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612637)

Well, I've often felt like this boring black box fixation was not the most sensitive design strategy from the customers' perspectives. IBM's engineering has always been solid enough inside the box--but that's not what the customers see first. I think the black-box approach also made customers doubt IBM's attentiveness to the customers' other interests. I'm hoping that means we'll be seeing a range of more interesting ThinkPads now. They've also recently announced a widescreen model.

(Disclaimer: I'm in the IBM food chain, and most of my machines are IBM's, either NetVista or ThinkPad.)

So where's the Turion version? (1)

Brian Stretch (5304) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612678)

Lenovo and AMD get along pretty well. When will Lenovo make an AMD Turion version of the Thinkpad? THAT would get my attention. Same old 32-bit-only notebook in a new shiny case, not so much.

Is this really slashdot material... (1)

WiFireWire (772717) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612683)

...c'mon. Honestly, when I want to know my color options when buying a thinkpad I will consult the IBM website.

Not how they should be (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612695)

Thinkpads are supposed to be like coffee: black and strong. And maybe some sugar(?)

zseries laptop? (1, Funny)

joib (70841) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612712)

I have to say, I find it hard to imagine a market for a mainframe laptop. ;-)

Re:zseries laptop? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#13612765)

Yeah. In the IBM world, zSeries is the big-mutha range of machines (the S/390 lineage). xSeries is the low end (Intel/AMD/etc).

Pax.

Ha ha I really AM a script but I'm smart enough to defeat your script-detection techniques :-).

An "Apple-edition" brushed titanium cover? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612748)

Now both your hardware and software can have the Apple "look and feel".

bad move. (1)

bezgin (785861) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612757)

Windows keys. Metallic cover. Curves. What will come next, a thinkpad without trackpoint? The Thinkpad brand was powerful because you could not buy it in a supermarkt, it was designed to be stable and trustable. Place it in consumer electronics and it will suck like the rest.

lets all remeber IBM biggest SHAME UK (1)

buddha01 (882550) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612775)

I personally have worked for an IBM dealer ship in the UK for ten years.

Every time a broken laptop screen is repaired at a dealership or business partner the faulty screen which has either been smashed dropped or what ever, well thats just thrown in the standard bin or worse.

LCD screens contain mercury the most deadly poison known to man, and what has IBM's action been to insure its business partners dispose of their industrial waste, ZERO.

NO incentive to deal with toxic IBM parts = Mercury thrown any were but were it should be.

IBM SHOULD be like HP , if you have an old toner unit you can get it sent back or at least there is a process to get them dealt with properly.

IBM uk still has lots to learn, I have personally out side of work in my own time disposed of countless smashed lcd screens, ive done it about 14 times.

I still have my commincation in my hotmail account when I drummed up the balls to email IBM and get some sort of answer on this.

The result name your self. Yeah and lose my job..

Peace and you can check this facts out.

IBM YOU SUCK AND YOUR LAPTOPS ARE SHIT ONLY ONE ABOVE TOSHIBA AND I HATE TOSHIBA.

Also why dont you tell your customers that they have 30 days after buying there darn laptop that they must claim there free recovery cd's, just another nail in IBM coffin if you ask me.

IBM= DOWN HILL.

Re:lets all remeber IBM biggest SHAME UK (0)

buddha01 (882550) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612894)

Just incase no body understands what this means it means this.

IBM is responceable for massive amounts of Mercury (think swimming pool amounts) been irresponsibly dumped I guess world wide your looking at even more qualitys unless its better else.

Any body want to bring a suit against IBM and make a couple of million towards clearing up the mess go right a head

If your in LAW you might just make your name with that kind of a suit?

Peace

Lenovo Impact on the Brand (2, Interesting)

b3x (586838) | more than 9 years ago | (#13612779)

It would be interesting to hear from others who work at companies which are "IBM" houses (Thinkpads and Thinkcentres etc ...). Is there talk of dropping Think* brands now that Lenovo is making them?

My company switched to Dell within a month of the sale. As one co-worker put it: It's like giving up your BMW for a Civic
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