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30Gigs Web Mail Launches Into Beta

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the the-who-with-the-what dept.

The Internet 320

gaanagaa writes "Neowin reports, that a new web mail service launched today is promising to bring users an email inbox of 30gb." The original intent of 30gigs.com was apparently to create an "'All in one' site for the webmaster and avid computer users. According to the sites 'about us' page, combining personal file storage, GD2 signatures and anonymous email all in one service, which would be free." In their brief review of the service a Neowin user also offers a word of caution with regards to their extremely short terms of service and privacy policy, calling them "shady".

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FUCK U (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702328)

I CUM first

Send me an invite? (4, Funny)

rdwald (831442) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702331)

Can someone give me an invite? Oh, and maybe First Post.

Re:Send me an invite? (0, Redundant)

LucidOndine (846764) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702344)

Yea Yea! Someone have an invite for me, too?

Re:Send me an invite? (5, Funny)

SpectreBinary (913950) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702362)

pfft. 30 gigs ought to be enough for anybody.

Re:Send me an invite? (1, Redundant)

gijsvanswaaij (818747) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702420)

Sure. Just like "640K of memory should be enough for anybody" (Bill G.)

Re:Send me an invite? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702498)

Can I have an invitation too? Thanks a lot!

sooqing[AT]yahoo[DOT]com[DOT]sg

Re:Send me an invite? (0, Redundant)

Dappa D (919826) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702541)

I would be greatful if someone could send one to me also. Thanks!

Re:Send me an invite? (0, Redundant)

RuleZ (919834) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702555)

I also will be pleasured if someone give me invite!

Re:Send me an invite? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702570)

Great! Could someone invite me, please? ktyim@yahoo.com

Re:Send me an invite? (0, Redundant)

l_bratch (865693) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702564)

An invite for me would be just great:

l_bratch@yahoo.co.uk

Re:Send me an invite? (0, Redundant)

Dappa D (919826) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702577)

adagnall@gmail.com - thanks

Malibu (4, Funny)

Blimundus (909351) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702337)

According to their website, they provide you with a "malibox"!

Re:Malibu (1)

Celt (125318) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702572)

I'm curious what benefits this offers over a standard mailbox, any ideas?

30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (5, Interesting)

Palal (836081) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702339)

I can't fill up my 2 gigs on Gmail, nor my gig on Y! mail, why in the world would I need 30 gigs?

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (2, Interesting)

master_gopher (864996) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702353)

Agreed, mail servers seem to be trying endlessly to outdo one another on storage, whereas it's the systems which attract most people I know. As argues elsewhere, many Yahoo!ers prefer to stay with Yahoo despite gmail, because they like/are used to the setup.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (4, Insightful)

Baricom (763970) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702383)

I agree that competing on storage is kind of pointless now, but when Gmail launched last year offering a gigabyte of space, that was a really big deal. People were used to having to delete their e-mail every so often; now, they didn't have to.

There's not much difference between 1 gigabyte and 30, but there's a huge difference between 5 MB and 1 GB.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (1)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702474)

when Gmail launched last year offering a gigabyte of space, that was a really big deal. People were used to having to delete their e-mail every so often; now, they didn't have to.

Right. Fast forward 1 year now, and it's not big news. Anyone who wants a decent size to their e-mail has one. 5MB and 30GB might be a big difference, but no-one is being forced to use 5MB, anyone that wants more is getting more.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (4, Funny)

Itchy Rich (818896) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702542)

From 30gigs.com: "Our main goal is to increase our space even further, to 50 gigs, or maybe 100 as time goes on."

Looks like they're going to keep changing their name to match the storage capacity. Foolish marketeers know nothing about encapsulation.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (1, Interesting)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702427)

The number one GMail feature for me was the free pop access. I used to use Yahoo for that and then they started wanting to charge for it. I haven't looked to see if they've made it free again..

If only GMail would let you delete messages read by pop instead of just trashing them. Trash uses quota which quickly, for some of us, limits how much mail we can move through GMail.

I'm cheating and developed a program that reads my incoming mail for attachments, collects the attachments, inserts web links to the attachements, and passes the rest through to my usual mail program (still leaving me with over a gig of mail a day). After seeing how popular the trial version I offered was I'm rewriting the whole thing to handle bandwidth usage better. I can't believe Yahoo and Google are to dense to care about this market. Yahoo and Google Groups are both crap and that is what generates the majority of this traffic.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702490)

So you wrote a porn harvester? Cool!

One Word: Pron. (5, Funny)

Famatra (669740) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702386)

"I can't fill up my 2 gigs on Gmail, nor my gig on Y! mail, why in the world would I need 30 gigs?"

If you belong to a lot of yahoo [yahoo.com] and google groups [google.com] , and the groups you belong to like to send a lot of attachments (porno) you can fill up 2 gigs in a couple of days.

Not that I know from experience or anything...

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702402)

To store files you want accesible from any computer that can browse the web. Probably a good place to stick family photo's, music files, and home videos.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (1)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702404)

I get more than a gig of email a day not even counting the couple gigs I get of pics, video, etc (pr0n) a day. I use a gmail account up in about a day and due to their poor design of trash it's a significant pain trying to pipe all that through their service. Luckily I have my own servers so it's not a problem for me. ;)

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (5, Funny)

pahles (701275) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702456)

I get more than a gig of email a day not even counting the couple gigs I get of pics, video, etc (pr0n) a day.

No wonder the internet is slow...

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (5, Insightful)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702513)

Email is really a horrible bunch of protocols not at all designed for real world use today. It seems crazy to me that we shunt around binaries encoded as text and that we have to pass duplicates along the same path rather than sending a single copy. Not to even get into the mess Email is in other ways. It'd be nice if major email providers at least could arrange a more effecient means of trading mail. I hope Yahoo, Google, etc don't store every single copy of duplicate messages and attachments. That'd just be stupid.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (1)

ColaMan (37550) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702591)

What, you mean something like nntp?

SMTP is not a file transfer protocol! (2, Informative)

NerdJock (918483) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702518)

I understand that some people need to transfer a lot of data between people and groups, but SMTP is not a file transfer protocol. That should be handled by another protocol, such as File Transfer Protocol or a P2P of your choice or perhaps a repository.

If you transfer that much data you should think about designing a small interface to handle it, to include shortcuts for the functions you use. After all, it has to be a bit cumbersome to work with that much data through a mail client.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (1)

b100dian (771163) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702444)

2 Gigs? 30GB? who can fill that if your attachement size is limited?!?
Seriously, just state "unlimited space" and make sure you adjust that attachement size by observing the daily increase of used space..
Or: leave 2GB, but allow a 650Mb attachement! err.. wait, two

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702471)

I can't fill up my 2 gigs on Gmail, nor my gig on Y! mail, why in the world would I need 30 gigs?

That is girltalk!

Obligatory memory limit joke. (-1, Redundant)

boisepunk (764513) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702488)

Well, 640K is all anyone will ever need.

Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! (4, Interesting)

PhotoBoy (684898) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702500)

I run a few webmail systems myself, you would be amazed at how quickly people manage to eat up space. On one system we have a problem with people who sign up, turn off the spam blocker and then sign up for lots of spam. Their inbox fills up but they never actually use the service, making us wonder what the point to signing up was. We suspect it's just people who have a grudge against the company to whom we are supplying the webmail.

Signup requires invite, like Google Mail (3, Interesting)

marcello_dl (667940) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702341)

I am not sure i like that. I think a playful method like a web based slot machine that lets you win an invitation (ajax based not to hammer the servers) would be nicer. Sigh.

phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang (5, Informative)

porksoda (253218) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702351)

1 terabyte, right here [hriders.com] .

Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang (2, Informative)

Pleb'a.nz (712848) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702530)

Last time I signed up here, you couldn't send email outside of the hriders.com domain.

Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang (2, Funny)

Narc (126887) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702551)

FTS.. We have been asked why we would do such a thing. The answer is simple to help people store large amounts of information in a safe and secure environment. Sure, yeah.. trust your data with a buncha bikers ;)

TOS (3, Interesting)

Lussarn (105276) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702352)

word of caution with regards to their extremely short terms of service and privacy policy, calling them "shady".

It should be a good thing to not have a long lawyerlike TOS. Terms of service is a way for companies to bypass the laws and shouldn't be needed at all. Period.

Re:TOS (4, Informative)

XaXXon (202882) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702364)

I just read their terms of service. It's almost all about cookies. They basically say how they use their cookies, that they aren't responsible for the contents of the sites their ads link to, and that you may get cookies from their ad provider.

While not being a service I would want to use, they don't seem to be "shady" in that they are hiding anything, just that they do things you wish they wouldn't, but they're honest about it.

This is, of course, assuming their ToS isn't an outright lie.

Re:TOS (2, Informative)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702399)

I agree, they're extremely forward with what they do and don't do (and one thing they claim they don't do is sell out your information). If the TOS and Privacy Policy is the only reason people believe they're shady, then I disagree completely. Having said that, reading the comments it appears that some people are wary because 30gigs.com isn't a name they know, so they're wary if they'll be trustworthy or not.

No, it is needed (1)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702562)

If I don't have a TOS, I can more or less do with your data what I please. There are some limits, but not many. However if I have a TOS that says I won't hand it out, and then I do, you can sue me for it, and get an injunction to stop me from doing it. I can't go back on my word. At the very least I have to change the TOS, and let you know I've changed it first.

While I agree TOSes shouldn't be unnecessiarly long or hard to understand, a good company will have a TOS and part of it will be what they are giving to YOU. If you get a high grade Internet connection, like a T1 line, the TOS will come with a provision often called a Service Level Agreement. This will state the garenteed uptime of your line, and the reimbursment you'll recieve should that not be met.

Even TOSes that do nothing but state what you aren't allowed to do are good, because then you know where the line of demarcation lies. Hard to obey rules when you don't know what they are, and better you know what the rules are before you get in to something.

What's a malibox? (0, Redundant)

olalla (676234) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702356)

All Accounts Feature: 30 GigaByte malibox

Re:What's a malibox? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702378)

It's a cocktail. Mixture of Malibu and Oxtail soup.

Missing the point (4, Insightful)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702358)

To anyone that thinks this is a serious contender in the Webmail wars, you're missing the point. I doubt very many people use their entire storage, or even come close. It's just used as a marketing point. The reason that any particular mail storage will beat the others is because of it's features. Gmail is popular (well, for starters because it's google and at the moment google is sexy among some geek circles) because of it's interface. Yahoo recently realised this and brought out a new interface of it's own (well, I say new. As in new for a webmail provider. From the articles it's just an Outlook Express clone, although it may be quite useful, I don't know. Like google, Yahoo has decided to not open it's new and improved webmail service to everyone, at least last i heard anyway).

Having said that, I doubt anyone is going to win the Webmail wars. All that will happen is they'll fight amongst each other to get more of a customer share by adding more features. Which is great for us. But 30gigs isn't going to be a contender anytime soon (if ever).

I remember when everyone used hotmail, back when it used to be usable. Then Microsoft screwed over its users with more and more intrusive ads, shitty interface and more. I'm just waiting for Microsofts response to Yahoo and Google's improved webmail interface.

Re:Missing the point (1)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702436)

I'd be impressed if Microsoft responded with a usable interface for any of their products. Yeh, Office has a brilliant interface. Makes me want to kill myself. I think Yahoo must be out of their mind if they're copying Outlook. That's a horrible mail program.

Google has the right idea. Streamline and make the UI more responsive. Ease of use over feature bloat.

Re:Missing the point (1, Insightful)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702461)

Yeh, Office has a brilliant interface. Makes me want to kill myself.

It's good enough for OSS to copy (Open Office).

Outlook. That's a horrible mail program.

Once again, good enough for OSS to copy (Thunderbird).

Re:Missing the point (2, Insightful)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702535)

Being copied doesn't mean something is good. It just means the copier has no better ideas of their own or have the mistaken believe that it's more important to copy a bad design to ease user's switching than it is to create a design that is actually good.

OpenOffice's UI is almost as horrible as Office itself. Thunderbird is clunky for managing large numbers of emails but is nowhere near the mess that Outlook is (and really doesn't look much like it.. if you're actually familiar with both).

Although you didn't mention it I'll take this time to say I hate how KDE and Gnome both copy way to much from Windows and OS X. They'll never get a good user-interface that way. Windows is just a mess that seems to have been made by a drunker marketing department. OS X is made to impress with eye candy and to be easy for newbies. Neither is designed to make experienced users more productive. Because of copying KDE and Gnome are really no more easy to use or productive than Windows and OS X. :(

Re:Missing the point (0, Troll)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702547)

Wait, you've just criticized Windows, Gnome, KDE and OS X. Just what the fuck DO you use?

Re:Missing the point (1)

LLuthor (909583) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702543)

MS has already been working on a new version of Hotmail.
There is a cool video about it on MSDN channel 9.

As far as I can tell, the interface is pretty good... but it is not yet publicly available.

Huge Uses? (4, Interesting)

Famatra (669740) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702360)

With a box that big you could, if you developed a network, work out an eMail p2p system.

Simply upload the stuff you want to trade and forward it to people who need it. How do you know who would want the stuff you've uploaded? You'd need to develop a network where your node advertises what it has available, and autoforwards the file when someone requests it.

After the initial uploading there is really no more bandwidth costs for you as you can forward the files for free - the email providers' servers handles the load.

Re:Huge Uses? (1)

likewowandstuff (859213) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702384)

And maybe if a "Burn files to CD/DVD/Blu-Ray" service were tacked on for a nominal fee...

Re:Huge Uses? (1)

Hellasboy (120979) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702446)

an eMail p2p system?

haha, that brings me back to ~1995 on AOL. Warez chat rooms with bots that emailed out warez to users in a fashion similar to IRC. That's to say, the mass mailer (aol term, haha) would post what they have in the chat room and the user would request the file and it was forwarded to them.

Re:Huge Uses? (1)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702463)

Why? Isn't it easier to just use a normal website that lets users post files and share links to them?

I've got such a site being redesigned from the ground up because unfortunately the bandwidth usage is huge. We're talking 150GB+ (after 3 weeks uptime.. never advertising) a day and growing quickly. I've got that problem solved but it's a serious expense if you haven't got a clever solution. I get 1500GB/mo of bandwidth with my server and I was still running out part way through the month before I found this fix.

Bit Torrent would be good but browsers don't have it built-in yet and users don't like using sites that require them to add other software to their computers. It's still a little flakey too IMO. Not really designed for a single server to offer millions of files to tens of thousands of users.

Re:Huge Uses? (1)

NerdJock (918483) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702545)

Actually Opera has BT integrated into their latest version, but it is not integrated into a mail client. I think it would an interesting idea for people that send out large mail to many people. If you just send to one or a few people, it is not worth using a P2P since it would be easier just to send it to the right people to begin with. If you meet the first criteria, you still have problems. First people expect a fairly fast response to opening a mail and while P2P is good at many things, completing a download on order (quality of service) is not one of those. The second problem is why users would want to help out. Most of the senders that meet the criteria are corporations that send "deal of the weeks" or newsletters and people do not tend to go out of their way to help those. That leaves small interest groups and communities, such as your favorite H4XX0R site and /.. And for those groups to join together to decide on a cohesive standard is a bit of a stretch.

Re:Huge Uses? (1)

dirtsurfer (595452) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702586)

Uh yeah I remember doing exactly that on AOL like 6 or 7 years ago.

Free Web Space (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702367)

Ok, so we have free web mail space coming out the wazoo, but what I would like is lots of free web space. Gimme gimme.

Re:Free Web Space (1)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702481)

So email me, if your project is interesting to me I'll give you free web space on my super high-speed connected server. ;)

I'm working to make a free website interface but I want it to be worlds better than Geocities and similar sites so it'll be a while before it's ready. In the meantime I have space available for the asking.

gmail.com!mogmios

This calls for creative use of email (1)

charlesesl (917504) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702373)

So has anyone figured out a way to convert porn to email?

Who cares? (3, Insightful)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702374)

See, if you could use it as intentional FTP space or some such, there might be a use, but really, a 30 GB e-mail service is no differnt than a 250 MB e-mail service for 99.9% of people out there, including me. Most mail systems limit attachment size somewhere around the 5 MB mark, so it is not like you can either expect or send large files to use that space. Nice advertising gimic, but no real use.

No POP access (1)

boingyzain (739759) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702375)

This service doesn't let you grab your email using POP or IMAP. Anyone know of any service that does allow that?

Re:No POP access (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702379)

Google mail does. Both ways too, unlike how yahoo only legs you get, not send.

Re:No POP access (1)

stuffisgood (666330) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702601)

That's true, although Gmail rebadges all emails sent through its SMTP server to be from your_address@gmail.com, regardless of what the from field was originally.

Apart from that its an awesome service. One I use on a regular basis.

totally shady (5, Insightful)

XenonDif (670717) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702376)

The privacy policy doesn't state that they won't read your data or not give it out to other people. I certainly wouldn't store my tax return on this server.

Re:totally shady (4, Insightful)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702389)

The privacy policy doesn't state that they won't read your data or not give it out to other people. I certainly wouldn't store my tax return on this server.

On the other hand, your data is worthless to them if you encrypt it first. Of course, I wouldn't really trust these people to keep backups, not go bankrupt, etc.

Re:totally shady (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702428)

The privacy policy doesn't state that they won't demand my first born!! That proves they are up to something..

Re:totally shady (2, Interesting)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702499)

As a web developer I can say that I would never promise not to read any data stored on my machines. It just isn't possible to say that. There is always the chance it could come up in some sort of log or be required for some sort of technical or legal reason. It'd be unwise to make such a promise knowing that you probably can't live up to it.

Re:totally shady (-1, Troll)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702528)

As a web developer I can say that I would never promise not to read any data stored on my machines.

And as a web user I can promise I will never use anything you helped develop.

Re:totally shady (2, Funny)

mustafap (452510) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702560)

>I certainly wouldn't store my tax return on this server.

I dont think it's your tax return you need to worry about. Indeed quite the oppostite; It's the stuff that didn't go on the tax return :o)

Re:totally shady (2, Insightful)

corvair2k1 (658439) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702592)

You should hold an even tighter requirement than that. If there's something you don't want someone to read something, you shouldn't send it via email... This is not a secure medium at all. Things happen in plaintext.

This rule holds for encryption: If you don't want people reading even the encrypted text, email is the wrong way to do things.

30 webdrive? (4, Informative)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702377)

If there would be the ability to have a "webdrive [viksoe.dk] " like there's available for google, this might be interesting.

Otherwise, to keep 30G of chainletters, spam, and the occasional email seems like a waste of space. In the line of google's history, they'd come out with 50G mailboxes in no time to stay current and on top. ;)

webdrive? invite me and I'll build it (1)

Inigo Montoya (31674) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702553)

ok, someone invite me to this and I'll start work on an open source webdrive for it
-- Cheers!

I tried it, here's my review (5, Insightful)

boingyzain (739759) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702391)

I tried out this thing yesterday for a bit.

Here's the problems:

1) The domain name sucks. Who wants to be john@30gigs.com

2) The interface sucks. Hard. It's about as plain as it can get (it looks like they're just using Squirrelmail with their own stylesheet).

3) Their privacy policy is vague on what kind of information they share

4) There doesn't seem to be any reputable parent company behind it meaning it's chances of survival are questionable.

Overall rating: THUMBS DOWN.

Besides, size isn't everything!

- Do anyone know how much spam you get with this service?
- How does it handle attachements and their sizes?
- How fast does mail travel through their servers?
- How high uptime do their servers have?
- Customizable mail filters to manage mail?
- Multiple labels per mail, set by filters?
- POP3 forwarding/servers?
- Address books?
- Antivirus checks?
- Do they backup?

I mean, if you have 1 GB+, why in the world would you want more?
My over-a-year-old Gmail account use 16 MB now. 0.016 GB. It can fit about 150x more mail. Now, how many years is that?

To me, it's just not a valid selling argument anymore.

Re:I tried it, here's my review (0, Redundant)

Agilo (727098) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702408)

"I mean, if you have 1 GB+, why in the world would you want more?"
You sound just like Bill Gates. :-)

But I do agree on your points, though.
Shame it got voted "-1".

Re:I tried it, here's my review (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702478)

I hate to break it to you, but 16MB is *not* 0.016GB. No.

Re:I tried it, here's my review (1)

feamsr00 (746721) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702489)

Can't help you out with much more then the uptime http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=30gigs.co [netcraft.com] m [netcraft.com] which, interesting enough, actually hasn't been plotted yet, but that should change in a few days.

Re:I tried it, here's my review (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702544)

"3) Their privacy policy is vague on what kind of information they share"

Reminds me of a certain company from Mountain View.

"- Do anyone know how much spam you get with this service?
- How does it handle attachements and their sizes?
- How fast does mail travel through their servers?
- How high uptime do their servers have?
- Customizable mail filters to manage mail?
- Multiple labels per mail, set by filters?
- POP3 forwarding/servers?
- Address books?
- Antivirus checks?
- Do they backup?"

You mean you knew all this when you signed up for gmail?
How can you type with google's dick in your hands?

Size isn't everything? (3, Funny)

dascandy (869781) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702573)

> Besides, size isn't everything!

Ah, one of those again... luckily I've just set up my own dual RAID-5 mailserver for just my own mail, on 2.4TB disk.

Whaddayamean, compensating?

porn on my web mail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702412)

according to the privacy policy : "Some of the links on 30Gigs.com are a cobranded arrangement where the control lies completely with the other party. 30Gigs.com is not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of these web sites. 30Gigs.com is only responsible for the content which lies on the root domain" .... so is theorically possible that some porn "companies" will put this kind of "ads" while I check my email .... although I think some people would be very happy with this ...

IMAP (1)

Thijs van As (826224) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702422)

I'd like it if they supported IMAP... Not even POP3. Now Gmail is a better choice for me.

Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702429)

Seriously, I have used my Gmail account for at least a year, and it uses about 16 MB. Let's say I was a quite heavy mail user and used 40 MB per year... That's 0.04 GB, or 62 years to fill 2.5 GB.

When mail space pass about 1 GB, it's simply not an issue for me anymore. We'll probably use mail in a totally different way than now in 30 years anyway. Maybe we won't even use much e-mail then. It's eons in computer technology.

What matters more to me are the other features. Does this service provide free POP3 server access to use your mail client of choice in addition to the webmail? Uptime? Mail server latencies/delays? Attachement sizes? Mail filter customizability? You know... Important stuff!

Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! (1)

mlewan (747328) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702459)

You are right in point, but your calculation doesn't work.

It is true that 30G currently is ridiculous.

But a lot of people send big attachments to each other - important statistical data, source code for large programs and of course funny films with monkeys.

If you just send text files, your estimations of 16M a year may work, but a large portion of us use much, much more than that.

No Thank you (1)

TarrySingh (916400) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702430)

That's all I can say. I'm sticking with gmail.

Gmail Grudge Match! (-1, Flamebait)

Mulletproof (513805) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702432)

""Neowin reports, that a new web mail service launched today is promising to bring users an email inbox of 30gb."

Will 30gb be enough to knock gmail from PC World's spot as the #2 best product of 2005? [pcworld.com] Of course, they might have to shovel some cash PC World's way to do it, as that's the only conceivable way I can see gmail even placing in the top 20, let alone number two.

Invitation Only? (0, Redundant)

KrisCowboy (776288) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702450)

Looks like it's Beta still and members only by invitation. Anyone to help me out?

1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL (5, Funny)

linumax (910946) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702452)

Hey folks!
I'm planning to unveil my ONE Terabyte Free webmail service by the next couple of weeks and all people on slashdot will receive invitations ASAP.

PS: Anybody got old HDD?! wish to get rid of em? Don't hesitate to contact me

Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL (1)

megrims (839585) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702527)

If that's a joke, it was very poorly implemented.

Space needed for personal mail (1)

dyfet (154716) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702477)

Perhaps if voice or video mail became very commonplace to exchange through internet email, even 30gigs might begin to seem small, though people would expect to stream it then if its being held on a remote site. Or, finally, an email service with enough space to hold the all the world's spam in one mailbox!

Re:Space needed for personal mail (1)

NerdJock (918483) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702567)

You are right that an increase in video messages would increase the space requirements drastically. But, I don't think we need to worry. Google has shown that they will respond to increasing space needs fairly fast. I have no doubt that we will get larger storage spaces to accommodate any video messages sent, perhaps through google talk?

The Internet is your hardrive (tm) (1)

CmdrPuto (246448) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702487)

For just few months we have massive improvement of internet bandwidth and storage.

So it's a matter of time that a hardware will arrive that OS and applications will use that free Giga spaces. The good thing about it is your data and OS preference will be centralized. Weather you use internet cafe, pc in the office or school they are still there.

Soon it will be too small (2, Insightful)

pdx_joe (690372) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702493)

I was talking to a friend the other day and we were laughing about our old systems. I remember having a conversation where we said "What on earth would you do with a 1GHz processor?" or "I got this new 1GB HDD and it should last me a couple years at least!" 30GB email boxes seem rediculous now but don't discount them. It's hard to imagine now but someday in the not too far future we will be laughing about how we somehow managed to get by with our 500MB hotmail account or our tiny 2GB GMail accounts!

Can't miss moneymaking opportunity! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Squonk (128339) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702496)

The domain 700petabytes.com is still available!

Privacy Policy (1, Redundant)

npfscayle (671641) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702502)

30Gigs.com has created this privacy statement in order to demonstrate our firm commitment to privacy. The following discloses our information gathering and dissemination practices for this website: 30Gigs.com. 30Gigs.com uses cookies to make sure you don't see the same ad repeatedly. This site contains links to other sites. 30Gigs.com is not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of these web sites. 30Gigs.com also uses cookies to keep you from having to login a second time. Some of the links on 30Gigs.com are a cobranded arrangement where the control lies completely with the other party. 30Gigs.com is not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of these web sites. 30Gigs.com is only responsible for the content which lies on the root domain ( 30Gigs.com ) We use outside ad companies to display ads on our site. These ads may contain cookies. While we use cookies in other parts of our web site, cookies received with banner ads are collected by our ad company, and we do not have access to this information.

someone send me an invite (0, Offtopic)

Guru Goo (875426) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702503)

yeah thats right.

Familiar (1)

FlipSideXp (692564) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702507)

Things are looking similar to the way the net was in the late 90s. We have seen the rise of some services that have no way of recovering the initial investment, let alone generate profit in the future. All the heat might be less, the build up is still very apparant and it will only be a matter of time until we witness another bubble burst.

Why? (1)

NidStyles (794619) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702509)

I have multiple Yahoo and Gmail accounts both of which have more space than I'll probably ever use. I mean I could sit here and send myself invites if I need more space, that's how ridiculous having that much space is. I only wish when using my gmail drive setup I could actually send more than 10Mb at a time, that's a pain in the ass to have to break down files that small.

The home page is a mess (2, Interesting)

tricheco (919832) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702511)

30gigs.com page is kind of a mess. Nice.

Mhare (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13702537)

it will be amo8g [goat.cx]

Leading the way in privacy policies. (3, Insightful)

samj (115984) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702548)

So a long privacy policy is a good privacy policy? I think not. 30 pages of lawyerspeak is for the birds - all privacy policies (at least the ones you have to click through to obtain some service) should fit on a page or less, else they aren't generally read.

invite please? (0, Offtopic)

blu3sman (817183) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702566)

Hi all could someone send me an invite? tnx a lot

With free webmail being all the rage these days... (2, Insightful)

Electrode (255874) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702571)

What I'm waiting for is someone that offers a PAID service, say around $5-10 a month.

Not only would this eliminate any and all advertising in the interface and your outgoing mail, but it would invariably come with guaranteed availability. Y! and Gmail make no promises whatsoever that the mail stored on their servers won't get wiped due to a failure, upgrade or whatever.

Such a service would also probably include features that you'll never see from the free ones, like telnet/SSH access (perhaps with a pine-like interface), access via POP, IMAP and maybe even certain groupware suites (GMail has POP, but the terms suggest they might do away with it in the future), ability to use your own domain, and high-security storage (encrypted disks and such).

Can I get an invite? (0, Offtopic)

dirtsurfer (595452) | more than 8 years ago | (#13702579)

anyone got an invite they can send my way?

leo king (at) gmail (dot) com

no spaces.

Much appreciated!

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