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Marc Andreessen's Social Platform: Ning

CmdrTaco posted about 9 years ago | from the someone-doing-something-interesting dept.

The Internet 134

An anonymous reader writes "As reported on SiliconBeat, Marc Andreessen has finally lifted the covers off his latest project: an applications structure called Ning, which makes the development of social websites like thefacebook.com and match.com more accessible. See TheGlu and Dating for examples of Ning in action."

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Interesting concept (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721227)

Maybe someone can be createive and come up with some useful applications for it.

Re:Interesting concept (0)

tangledweb (134818) | about 9 years ago | (#13721431)

How about nerd dating?
http://slashdotdating.ning.com/edit.php [ning.com]

Why does it ask you for your gender?

Re:Interesting concept (0, Offtopic)

crschmidt (659859) | about 9 years ago | (#13721613)

I know at *least* 2 females on Slashdot.

But I considered just making the choices "male" or "CowboyNeal". Since those two females wouldn't want to date anyone from here anyway.

Re:Interesting concept (2, Funny)

generic-man (33649) | about 9 years ago | (#13721546)

Once Google's Orkut [orkut.com] comes out of beta, oh, man. It'll be like Friendster and Tribe and OKCupid and BDSMPartnerSearch.com.au all put together but with amazingly leet JavaScript.

But it won't be evil.

Re:Interesting concept (1)

British (51765) | about 9 years ago | (#13721595)

Orkut to me is dead. It was horribly maintained, the inerface wasn't that good, and the invite-only nature didn't bring many people on(*)

(*) Exception: Every single citizen of Brazil, who insisted on making at least one post in every community(whether it had nohting to do with Brazil) asking if there were other Brazilians on there. Mind you, Myspace is full of fake accounts and shirtless chavs, and breaks every 5 hours, but it's better than Orkut.

Re:Interesting concept (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721602)

Google is aware of your concerns and will address them in Orkut 1.0, which will be available when it's ready.

Re:Interesting concept (1)

Lucractius (649116) | about 9 years ago | (#13722198)

orkut is like some perverse portugese party that you get invited to by some bi-lingual person with a vauge interest in a few people ther that are also bi lingual so you get dragged along and spend the entire time confused by people you dont understand!

that said... if orkut wasnt full of all these MILLIONS of brazillian groups it might be better. But its still damn good :)

Re:Interesting concept (1)

sammy baby (14909) | about 9 years ago | (#13722255)

Flickr is experiencing a similar problem, only now the issue is with people from the UAE crossposting their photos to millions of unrelated groups, then whining about why noone leaves comments on their photos.

Re:Interesting concept (1)

AuMatar (183847) | about 9 years ago | (#13723257)

I never did see the point of Orkut. Lets ignore the bugs and interface. It was basicly a series of forums. Thats all it was. What does it give us that we can't do for ourselves with fewer problems on geocities, or whatever the free hosting of the week is now?

Ning ning! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721228)

You forgot your bling bling!

dating.ning.com very popular... (0, Offtopic)

Ritz_Just_Ritz (883997) | about 9 years ago | (#13721229)

"You searched for 18 - 99 year old females.

No matching profiles."

8-)

Re:dating.ning.com very popular... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721269)

Why were you searching for 99 year old women in the first place.

Re:dating.ning.com very popular... (3, Funny)

It doesn't come easy (695416) | about 9 years ago | (#13721370)

"This is a test of the Emergency Dating System. The geeks of your area in voluntary cooperation with the Federal, State and local authorities have developed this system to give you hope in the unlikely event of an actual dating opportunity. If this had been an actual dating situation, the search results you just experienced would have been followed by the epiphany that no person of the female persuasion would even consider using such a system for dating in the first place, so you're wasting your time. This concludes this test of the Emergency Dating System."

Re:dating.ning.com very popular... (1)

Infinityis (807294) | about 9 years ago | (#13721555)

Thank goodness FEMA wasn't dispatched...someone that hopeful might just assume it's an abbreviation for FEMALE.

Andreeson's other invention (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721235)

The self-promoting taco.

Screw Andressen - he supports outsourcing (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721240)

That fool has been on Lou Dobbs advocating outsourcing and H1-b. He is a traitor to all software professionals.

Re:Screw Andressen - he supports outsourcing (3, Insightful)

mustafap (452510) | about 9 years ago | (#13721282)

Well if you spent more time working and less on slashdot, maybe you wouldn't be an outsourcing target?

Re:Screw Andressen - he supports outsourcing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721409)

About your sig:
homebrew GPS Speed Camera Detectors
I found a neat trick that's even better!
Did you ever notice these strange signs, round, white with a red border and a black number in the middle? For some reason these things are everywhere. Anyway, the trick is to keep the number on you dashboard to maximum the number on the sign you last passed. For some wicked reason, you become invisible to speed camera's! They simply ignore you! I know, I know, it sounds crazy, but it actually works!

I also know this neat trick for knowing where you won't get fined if you park your car. But it's a bit more complex, you'd best start with the above trick, and move to the more advanced tricks later.

Re:Screw Andressen - he supports outsourcing (1)

farnz (625056) | about 9 years ago | (#13721611)

There is one good reason for wanting to know where speed cameras are, even if you keep within the law: a significant proportion of cameras go up at danger spots. Knowing that this point is likely to be dangerous is helpful, even if you don't speed (the worst case is that it's more dangerous because a certain class of speeding loon likes to brake as hard as possible when they're near a speed camera, crawl past at less than half the limit, then flat out away from it).

Re:Screw Andressen - he supports outsourcing (1)

mustafap (452510) | about 9 years ago | (#13721652)

You might have at least clicked on a bloody advert while you were looking, you insensitive clod!

Re:Screw Andressen - he supports outsourcing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722853)

Hmm, never seen those signs. I live in the US, does that make a difference?

TheGlu became unstuck (2, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | about 9 years ago | (#13721247)

theGLU is taking a short break. Back later!

And the other site is loaded with hot babes (1)

GoodNicsTken (688415) | about 9 years ago | (#13723280)

>Your Search

You searched for 21 - 29 year old females.

No matching profiles.

Lniux Sucks because its too hard to use (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721250)

Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare.

Take installation. Linux zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do apt-get install package or emerge package": Yes, because typing in "apt-get" or "emerge" makes so much more sense to new users than double-clicking an icon that says "setup".

Linux zealots are far too forgiving when judging the difficultly of Linux configuration issues and far too harsh when judging the difficulty of Windows configuration issues. Example comments:

User: "How do I get Quake 3 to run in Linux?"
Zealot: "Oh that's easy! If you have Redhat, you have to download quake_3_rh_8_i686_010203_glibc.bin, then do chmod +x on the file. Then you have to su to root, make sure you type export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 but ONLY if you have that latest libc6 installed. If you don't, don't set that environment variable or the installer will dump core. Before you run the installer, make sure you have the GL drivers for X installed. Get them at [some obscure web address], chmod +x the binary, then run it, but make sure you have at least 10MB free in /tmp or the installer will dump core. After the installer is done, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config and add a section called "GL" and put "driver nv" in it. Make sure you have the latest version of X and Linux kernel 2.6 or else X will segfault when you start. OK, run the Quake 3 installer and make sure you set the proper group and setuid permissions on quake3.bin. If you want sound, look here [link to another obscure web site], which is a short HOWTO on how to get sound in Quake 3. That's all there is to it!"

User: "How do I get Quake 3 to run in Windows?"
Zealot: "Oh God, I had to install Quake 3 in Windoze for some lamer friend of mine! God, what a fucking mess! I put in the CD and it took about 3 minutes to copy everything, and then I had to reboot the fucking computer! Jesus Christ! What a retarded operating system!"

So, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that what seems easy and natural to Linux geeks is definitely not what regular people consider easy and natural. Hence, the preference towards Windows.

Imposter Boy (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721252)

Everything you need to know is in this article [64.233.167.104] .


Netscape always controlled the media when it came to the story about how the browser was first built. This is the only article that I've ever seen that actually went back to the place where it was created to find out the real story.


History is written by the victors.... Even if that "history" isn't true.

Slashdot dating (2, Funny)

KiloByte (825081) | about 9 years ago | (#13721255)

So, uhm, where is the "Chicks for Sysadmins/C Programmers" section?

Re:Slashdot dating (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | about 9 years ago | (#13721327)

Apparently, here [ning.com] . I didn't do it!

Re:Slashdot dating (0)

KiloByte (825081) | about 9 years ago | (#13721433)

Bearded sysadmins, I forgot to add.

Re:Slashdot dating (5, Interesting)

crschmidt (659859) | about 9 years ago | (#13721443)

Create an account. Apply for beta developer status. Click "Clone This" button on dating.ning.com. Type in that title, add a few extra fields ("What programming langugages do you know?" "Who is your ideal BOFH?")

It's that easy.

That's the power of cloning, and the primary force behind Ning.

Want Proof? I just did it: SlashDot Dating [ning.com] .

What happened to farts.com, er, I mean loudcloud? (2, Insightful)

autopr0n (534291) | about 9 years ago | (#13721257)

Sorry, I just can't take Marc Andressen seriously.

Re:What happened to farts.com, er, I mean loudclou (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722245)

Loudcloud ditched the service model, started selling their Opsware [opsware.com] automation package, and are still major player in the datacenter automation market.

Re:What happened to farts.com, er, I mean loudclou (2, Funny)

Daengbo (523424) | about 9 years ago | (#13722348)

Autopr0n is, like, down and stuff.

Yeah, man, for like a year now. God I miss you. What the hell happened -- Thousands of horny geeks' underwear have just begun to dry out, and they need some relief. You took down your page, I stopped writing sex in Thailand stories... What's the world coming to?

How many social websites are needed? (4, Insightful)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13721262)

This seems like the sort of market where perhaps one or two major sites is all that is needed. First of all, you'll get the widest slice of the community with only a few major providers, rather than a few hundred smaller, more specific sites with a far smaller proportion of the population subscribed.

So while there could be a site for UNIX aficionados, and another for horse lovers, it'd be difficult to find somebody interested in both UNIX and horses when the smaller, specific sites are common. Both people could be listed in the more general, and larger, site. And thus it'd be easier to query for those interested in both UNIX and horses at once.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (2, Interesting)

CodeShark (17400) | about 9 years ago | (#13721325)

The problem with having only a few sources of information is that us folks are humans, not ants, bees, or any other form of social creature that needs only a minimal amount of information (ant:location->picnic, bees:location->flowers).

The voice of the majority is not the voice of the all, and when our information comes from only a few sources, those sources quickly take on the vanilla flavor of the majority and are also the most easily subverted to what is acceptable to the movers and shakers AKA power-mongering types of folks, while the Internet is inherently free BECAUSE of the number of social websites.

So how many social websites are needed? As many as there are quality "voices" who want to speak, methinks.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (2, Insightful)

j1mmy (43634) | about 9 years ago | (#13721352)

The problem isn't the numebr of websites, it's the inability of social websites to mesh together. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to link to my friends on orkut from friendster and vice versa. There's also no reason a search on orkut can't pull results from friendster, and again, vice versa. If social sites could agree on a shared interface, they could all play together.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (2, Insightful)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13721417)

But many of these sites are also businesses, and it makes no sense for them to provide business to their direct competitors. It would be like Amazon referring you to Barnes & Noble if you cannot find the book you're looking for at Amazon.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

SPY_jmr1 (768281) | about 9 years ago | (#13721686)

Ah, the "Miracle on 34th Street" Theory...

What's That Then? (1)

Vagary (21383) | about 9 years ago | (#13722939)

Can you spell it out?

Re:How many social websites are needed? (2, Informative)

GozzoMan (808286) | about 9 years ago | (#13721891)

But many of these sites are also businesses, and it makes no sense for them to provide business to their direct competitors. It would be like Amazon referring you to Barnes & Noble if you cannot find the book you're looking for at Amazon.
I disagree. As a better comparison, think about telecoms: users of a telecom do are allowed to call users of other telecoms, with an agreement on a proper compensation model between telecoms.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | about 9 years ago | (#13722615)

And it took federal regulation to make that happen. interoperability is a pipe dream.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

GozzoMan (808286) | about 9 years ago | (#13722953)

And it took federal regulation to make that happen. interoperability is a pipe dream.
Federal regulation? ROTFL. Are you aware that there are telephones, lo and behold, also outside USA? And telecoms interoperability works more or less in the same way, fwik. I don't have exact & complete knowledge of all trade agreement among all telecoms in the world, but I do suspect that not all of them are required by some law but simply emerged from the need of the (paying & complaining) users to contact other users. Note, for a significant example, that (exceptions apart) you do can call someone in some place in the world that has no law system in common with yours.

Brief telecom history (1)

A nonymous Coward (7548) | about 9 years ago | (#13723081)

This is from faded memory and no doubt wrong in particulars, but the general drift is more or less correct ... I hope!

Way back, 100 years ago, AT&T played very rough. There were hundreds, maybe thousands, of independent telephone systems. They were so independent as to even have different voltages and other vital specs. Yet somehow they managed to work with each other. AT&T began a buying spree, and if some local indepenent telco did not want to sell out to AT&T, they would refuse to connect, citing various bogus technical reasons, and eventually the local telco would be so isolated that they would have to capitulate. Eventually AT&T bought up enough to become the master of the telco universe, by which time the stink finally began to reach the federals and they started making noises. AT&T then offered to become federally regulated in exchange for keeping their ill-gotten monopoly.

This was born the myth that the telephone system is a natural monopoly.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | about 9 years ago | (#13723279)

I thought you were talking about telcos and CLECs in the USA after the Telecomm Act. my mistake.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

daviddennis (10926) | about 9 years ago | (#13723262)

Most of these services are free, and I don't see advertising revenue being shared; it's small enough as it is.

However, the FOAF standard currently exposed by some tribe.net profiles might help with this.

D

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

jacksonj04 (800021) | about 9 years ago | (#13721825)

The beauty of it is, if you can't find a social network site which meshes you can create your *own* social network site and...

Oh, wait.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

drafalski (232178) | about 9 years ago | (#13721945)

How much wider a slice could you want? As of 10:18 AM Eastern, the search turns up a single female in the 18-99 age range.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (2, Insightful)

dalutong (260603) | about 9 years ago | (#13721989)

I disagree. If you wanted to start a network of evironmentalists this would be great. Or of a counter-popular network. Anything that wouldn't want to group themselves with a site like thefacebook -- not to mention that they might want to have a more professional, and closed, system.

Oh dear, oh deeeeear! (3, Interesting)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | about 9 years ago | (#13722108)

I dunno. I get a "danger will robinson" reaction to that thought, and my tail gets all bushy.

We're already so divided and conquered and fractured. Specialized dating sites may cause all the politico/ideologico groups to start exclusively inbreeding until we're just a disconnected sea of tribes that don't even speak the same language.

I'm being silly, but only a little.

Oh dear, oh deeeeear!-A Forum Divided. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13723102)

"We're already so divided and conquered and fractured. Specialized dating sites may cause all the politico/ideologico groups to start exclusively inbreeding until we're just a disconnected sea of tribes that don't even speak the same language."

We already are. Exhibit A: Slashdot. Same forum, talking over each others head. No attempt made to bridge the intellectual divide.

Re:How many social websites are needed? (1)

DrugCheese (266151) | about 9 years ago | (#13722050)

unix and horses

and I thought I've seen pr0n on all the weird fetishes

Just what we need... (1)

doublem (118724) | about 9 years ago | (#13723073)

Great, just what the world needs. MORE web sites for people looking to cheat on their significant others.

Web development for dummies (2, Interesting)

SteveX (5640) | about 9 years ago | (#13721270)

Looks like a great way for folks who don't know much about the underlying tech to experiment with web apps. Best part of it is you can take any existing application, clone it, and you instantly have the start of a new app that you can customize.

It's cool to hear Andreessen is behind it; this gives it a little more legitimacy than it would otherwise have (ie, less likely to disappear thanks to not having a business model).

The innovation is in new stuff, not in ripoffs of existing sites.. will be interesting to watch whether Ning will really make this possible.

Re:Web development for dummies (4, Interesting)

Bad to the Ben (871357) | about 9 years ago | (#13721362)

It's cool to hear Andreessen is behind it; this gives it a little more legitimacy than it would otherwise have (ie, less likely to disappear thanks to not having a business model).

Why? Didn't Netscape mostly disappear? Admittedly, it was more due to Netscape sucking and having their business model conquered by MS free giveaways than not having a business model.
The innovation is in new stuff, not in ripoffs of existing sites.. will be interesting to watch whether Ning will really make this possible.
Don't count on it. The entire point of this "Ning" (stupid name) thing is to make it EASIER for other people to rip off existing social sites and start their own. IMHO and observations, the really innovative sites are developed by people using their own tools, because prepackaged sets like this one tend to limit what they can do to the preconceptions of whoever created the tools. Slashdot with it's "Slashcode" is a good example. Slashdot was innovative, but all the sites based off it aren't really. There are exceptions, of course.

CmdrTaco's dating profile... (4, Funny)

Afecks (899057) | about 9 years ago | (#13721295)

Interested in Meeting People for: Dating Men

Is somebody having a little fun [ning.com] with CmdrTaco?

Re:CmdrTaco's dating profile... (2, Funny)

Gunfighter (1944) | about 9 years ago | (#13721646)

Occupation: Posting duplicate stories to a small news blog

Hah!

This guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721302)

Marc is a perfect example of a guy who was in the right place at the right time.

All his other predictions and business ventures have been flops.

"Redirection limit exceeded" (1)

Florian Weimer (88405) | about 9 years ago | (#13721306)

I get a redirect loop on all three web sites. Are they Internet-Explorer-only, or what?

Re:"Redirection limit exceeded" (2, Informative)

crschmidt (659859) | about 9 years ago | (#13721459)

Turn on Cookies.

Re:"Redirection limit exceeded" (1)

monkeydo (173558) | about 9 years ago | (#13723425)

Why? Isn't Andreesen smart enough to implement sessions without using cookies? I guess not, since he isn't even smart enough to implement a "This site requires cookies" page.

Shitty design, bad start.

Re:"Redirection limit exceeded" (0)

KiloByte (825081) | about 9 years ago | (#13721530)

It looks like the site loses if you have your cookies disabled.

Andreesen = synonymous with "failed business plan" (4, Insightful)

cpuh0g (839926) | about 9 years ago | (#13721317)

Besides scoring alot of stock options when Netscape went public, has this guy ever done anything that has actually been a success?

I think every business he tried to start since leaving Netscape have bombed.

Color me unimpressed by lucky Mark's business acumen.

Re:Andreesen = synonymous with "failed business pl (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722822)

I think he started LoudCloud
Went big (as in dot com big) - sold off the European department to EDS.

Changed directions of LoudCloud and it is making some money - at least last time I checked.

He knows what investors are looking for and he has the skill the find good people and hire them. Good people and good investment money usally means you can make big coin... but not always.

The next great business plan? (2, Interesting)

marlinSpike (894812) | about 9 years ago | (#13721361)

Looks like he's hit upon the next great business plan for web sites -- getting geeks hitched! No but seriously, social networking probably is going to be a mushrooming web-based industry, but so far, I haven't seen a lot of imagination given to how one can meet and extend one's social network online. The last great revolution in this sphere was Instant Messaging/Text Messaging, which has seriously taken off Europe and Asia (and to a lesser degree in the US). But as far as web sites go, I haven't seen anything that's really revolutionary or that provides something that Orkut, and other social networking or Dating sites don't already give you.

obvious (1)

jshaped (899227) | about 9 years ago | (#13721364)

duh, here's the link to the product's website:

www.ning.com

Is "ning" slang for "genitals" in Chinese? (4, Funny)

CyricZ (887944) | about 9 years ago | (#13721387)

I'm not sure what dialect of Chinese they speak in Shanghai, but when I was there for business several years back I do recall seeing an incident involving the word "ning".

I think there were some young adults playing football (soccer, for you American folk) on a side street, and one of them got kicked in his genitals. I recall his friends yelling "NING! repeatedly. Does "ning" refer to the genitals themselves, or is it just part of a Chinese phrase used when genital injuries occur? Is it like the "kicked" in "You just got kicked in the nuts!" or is it the "nuts"?

Re:Is "ning" slang for "genitals" in Chinese? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721598)

What is your obsession with Chinese men's genitals??

Re:Is "ning" slang for "genitals" in Chinese? (1)

TheReal_BarkMan (779113) | about 9 years ago | (#13722152)

Ning was the unfortunate lad's name.

To ridicule is human...

Re:Is "ning" slang for "genitals" in Chinese? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722516)

I'm not sure what dialect of Chinese they speak in Shanghai
They speak Wu [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Is "ning" slang for "genitals" in Chinese? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722596)

Wu is not one language, you idiot wikipedia-quoting moron. It's an entire family of languages. People from Shanghai can't understand people from Suzhou or Hangzhou, even though those cities are less than 2 hours away. Unless they speak Mandarin.

Re:Is "ning" slang for "genitals" in Chinese? (1)

Sneeper (182316) | about 9 years ago | (#13723077)

Ning2 means tranquil, peaceful.

In the movie Serenity, it's used as the first part of the word 'Serenity' -- ning2jing4. It's painted on their ship and used in the movie logo.

I tried inserting the chinese characters in this post, but disappeared in preview mode. Oh well.

How's this different? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721388)

What's the big difference between this and http://www.plone.org/ [plone.org] ? Haven't Plone and http://www.zope.org/ [zope.org] providing such framworks for years?

Re:How's this different? (1)

duffbeer703 (177751) | about 9 years ago | (#13722735)

The difference is that who'll probably be able to support more than 3 users.

rip-off of 43things.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721392)

This looks like a rip of 43things.com, which is a cool site and has been around for a while. Did Anderssen have a hand in that or is this just a cheap copy?

Thank goodness! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721412)

Thank goodness for this - "Hot or Not" was just not fulfilling the needs of my online social group. A specialized version is just what we needed!

Ning and Web2.0, the bubble is growing (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721474)

So how the heck do they think they're going to profit from this? So now every single person on planet earth with an Internet connection can create their own social networking website. That just made all these websites worthless.

This whole Web 2.0 thing is a huge bubble. Everyday a new, supposedly Web 2.0 app comes out. Out of all these apps, do they think they'll be able to capture a large audience? All they get is 15 minutes of fame and then die out sitting in the corner of the Internet collecting dust. VCs are throwing their money as if these websites are going to be make money for them, and we all know most of them won't.

I don't know who here agrees with me, but I'm sure many people out there do.

Who is this Marc Andreessen (0)

Murakami (919969) | about 9 years ago | (#13721476)


Submitters should link to a profile when mentioning someone: Marc Andreessen [wikipedia.org] . It's not that hard, like using coral cache for the links.

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You've got to be kidding! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722124)

If /. readers don't know who Marc is, /. has degenerated more quickly and more deeply than I thought.

Re:Who is this Marc Andreessen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722580)

Your Slashdot uid > 900000 -- check
You don't know who Marc Andreessen is -- check
You just turned 14 -- check

Interesting? Doubt it (3, Interesting)

freddej (122902) | about 9 years ago | (#13721482)

The first blog comment on siliconbeat said it all:
"My first reaction, not knowing that this was an Andreesen site, was "gee, these apps are derivative". Come on, Bulldogster? And how many applications do we actually need to tell us about restaurants in Palo Alto?"

Breakthrough in Social Network (5, Insightful)

wjzhu (712748) | about 9 years ago | (#13721531)

The best musicians may not build their own instruments, and the best film makers and photographers may not build their own cameras. Currently social network sites are created only by those with significant technical ability. Now with Ning, the tools are built and ready for social-artists to use: people with great social-IQ can develop some amazing social webtools that we may not yet imagined.

I feel like such a nerd... (0)

parasonic (699907) | about 9 years ago | (#13721538)

...but it's now just facebook.com

Grokking Ning (1)

jbum (121617) | about 9 years ago | (#13721548)

I posted about Ning yesterday:

http://www.krazydad.com/ [krazydad.com]

An excerpt:

Ning allows user/authors to set up permanent URLs to their apps, which take the form XXXX.ning.com. I imagine there will be a bit of an initial landgrab as cybersquatters grab up some of the more obvious ones. It would be nice if Ning had a policy in place to deal with this, but I imagine, with a project this ambitious, their plates are pretty full -- and this leads to what I think is the most flawed aspect of this idea -- it's just too damn big. If successful, Ning has the potential to be a host, provider, authoring tool, and community hub for a huge chunk of web content. The question is, can the company successfully do all these things and do them well? Managing successful communities is a tricky business, and the downside is that when the users get pissed off, you've already provided them with an excellent channel for mouthing off about it (for the inevitable whiners, this is an excellent time to reserve "ihate.ning.com" and "ilovewhi.ning.com").

SimLife in Reverse : an idea for someone to steal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721556)

computer program that tells *you* what to do everyday, finds new things for you to do

this would compensate for someone's deficiency of knowing how to have fun, get a job, etc etc.

it coordinatess activities with other people that have given up control of their life to this program.

may consider data that you supply about your environment, including other people.

The PHPNuke of social apps? (3, Informative)

horza (87255) | about 9 years ago | (#13721569)

There is a very comprehensive FAQ section on the Ning Homepage [ning.com] . Ning appears to be a social app framework written in PHP, hoping to do for social apps much what PHPNuke did for online magazines. It uses its own template language XNHTML, but it's not like developers aren't expected to learn a new one each week these days. It makes it easy to click-and-clone apps, much like Blogger makes it easy to set up your own blog. The business plan is to try and offer a premium service and make money off the back of that. They are clear that you own and code and content that you write, but don't have any license I can see of the framework itself. This is something I'd like to see be made clear. I'd be wary developing something where the rug could be pulled out from under me.

Phillip.

Re:The PHPNuke of social apps? (3, Funny)

OverlordQ (264228) | about 9 years ago | (#13721805)

Ning appears to be a social app framework written in PHP, hoping to do for social apps much what PHPNuke did for online magazines.

So we can expect 3-4 really bad security vulnerabilities a month till it reaches version 700000?

Doesn't OKCupid pretty much have this covered? (0)

Colin Smith (2679) | about 9 years ago | (#13721592)

They use some interesting statistical clustering algorithms to determine who might be a reasonable match with who.

 

The GPL one! (1)

RicardoStaudt (848723) | about 9 years ago | (#13721634)

Hey! you forgot to mention everyones favorite GPL orkut-like social tool: Yogurt [sf.net]

Yogurt's running! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13723009)

the Yogurt! Community under in construction and up!

to access http://yogurt.sf.net/ [sf.net]

Everyone's missing the point (5, Informative)

Erisynne (10654) | about 9 years ago | (#13721637)

My company was contracted to work on Ning, and we've been doing it for over 3 months. It makes me a bit sad that everyone seems to be missing the point of what makes Ning truly great.

It's the data. The SHARED data. It's an ecosystem, not just a platform or a hosted framework. Ning is much greater than any individual application, and I personally don't think that the true popularity will come from the dating applications. Ning's much bigger than any given application (and by that I mean piece of software and application as in "the way it's used"), and it's not a mega app. It's an app playground.

See my blog post on the subject: http://www.slash7.com/articles/2005/10/05/fun-time s-startup-launches [slash7.com]

Re:Everyone's missing the point (3, Insightful)

donnacha (161610) | about 9 years ago | (#13722614)

Hi Amy, having read both your blog post and Ning's voluminous FAQ, I see a major road-block to the series adoption of Ning as anything more than a playground, one that will see thousands of abandoned, short-lived experiments - a sort of sourceforge of social websites.

That road-block is money: the admins, who are expected to invest time energy in tailoring their Ning-based websites to their target audience and then generating enough buzz/awareness to build the necessary momentum and userbase to actually make their websites useful, are not allowed to include any adverts because Andreessen & Co will already be inserting ads and explain that "don't look warmly upon more than one person running ads on an App or a page".

The real zinger, however, is that they helpfully suggest that you integrate Paypal and charge for your service. It's not hard to see that most apps that build any traction will turn to this option as the only way to gain some reward for their efforts and, obviously, to build a wall around their service/retain exclusive value, will default to tag their data as "private", killing the whole shared data eco-system concept.

I found your Rails articles a few months ago interesting, I'm surprised that you don't considered that a much better route for anyone with the imagination to invent new Web apps.

Re:Everyone's missing the point (2, Interesting)

Erisynne (10654) | about 9 years ago | (#13723045)

Donnacha,

You may be right. Nobody can tell at this point whether or not Ning will succeed, or succeed for long, more importantly. Whether this spark of interest will last, or not. I'm optimistic, but I also recognize that I'm just a teensy bit biased :) That said, I didn't design the system, and there certainly are things I'd do differently. I still think it's an intriguing idea, being run by people who care about it. We'll just have to see.

Mediocrity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13721781)

This looks interesting, and I'm curious to see where it goes. But, it seems most likely to lead to the creation of dozens of remarkably mediocre web apps. Why use an unpolished thing that's maybe 1/2 has good as flickr or del.icio.us when you can just use the real thing? Perhaps their demos just don't show off the system's real power, but they're definitely not very interesting.

Another post here suggested that, really, the system is interesting because every ning app can access data from every other ning app. This is a pretty cool idea. I just wish they didn't have to compromise on quality.

Robots vs Aliens vs Pirates vs Ninjas (2, Interesting)

Washizu (220337) | about 9 years ago | (#13721910)

I checked it out yesterday and finally got one of theor limited developer accounts. So far it's kind of neat. I was able to clone a "this or that" type app and set it up to answer the age old question:

Which is the coolest? Robots, Aliens, Pirates or Ninjas?

Check it out [ning.com] .

Re:Robots vs Aliens vs Pirates vs Ninjas (1)

managedcode (863136) | about 9 years ago | (#13723079)

Very cool idea. People who are just thinking this as a Master Dating site must check it out. They probably missed the point.

Friend of a Friend? (1)

SWroclawski (95770) | about 9 years ago | (#13721937)

This seems like just another company offering to be the engine for lots of dating sites.

What we really want, if our goal is interoperability, is something similar to the FoaF [foaf-project.org] project's RDF description framework for describing people, then using technology to match them up.

In fact, using something like FoaF, we can describe people in more than the "29 dimensions of compatibility"- we can look at things like interests, where they blog, geography, etc.

Re:Friend of a Friend? (1)

need_change (62217) | about 9 years ago | (#13722339)

It seems y'all are missing the mark. There are API provisions and bandwidth allotment for app-to-app connectivity. It the applications that are social, not necessarily the developers or users. I'm intrigued.

Hmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722453)

http://www.iwasso80s.com/ [iwasso80s.com]

Sausage fest! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13722552)

You searched for 18 - 36 year old females.

No matching profiles.

A dating Profile Blog? BFD. The break through is.. (2, Funny)

tyrione (134248) | about 9 years ago | (#13722619)

In actually signing up real and attractive people to actually date. That part of "Social Engineering" is beyond the scope of the Internet.
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