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Leonardo Da Vinci's Personal Notebook

CowboyNeal posted more than 8 years ago | from the pages-of-history dept.

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IZ Reloaded writes "The British Library has made available 14 great books on its website. One of them is a 1508 notebook by Leonardo Da Vinci containing short treatises, notes and drawings of a wide range of subjects from mechanics to the moon. The site allows you to view the original manuscript written in Leonardo's own handwriting."

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Backward handwriting (4, Funny)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746144)

Will I have to flip my display to read Leonardo Da Vinci's backwards handwriting?

Re:Backward handwriting (3, Informative)

kalidasa (577403) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746231)

Ready for this one - they actually have a "mirror" button to flip it over for you! Now that's nice.

Fantastic! Now if I only... (1)

Hamster Lover (558288) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746529)

could read Italian. Maybe we should run the result through Babelfish...

Re:Backward handwriting (3, Funny)

legirons (809082) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746585)

Apparently, he only wrote "click here to download plugin" lots of times... very neat handwriting, although I can't see how it could be interpreted as the design for a helicopter

Re:Backward handwriting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746992)

For your information, sir, that post caused considerable puzzlement for my neighbours, as I just erupted into a very loud cackle.

you know why? (3, Interesting)

spectrokid (660550) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746627)

It is often said he was using this to encrypt his writings, but this is BS. Da Vinci was left-handed and in order not to wipe out his own writing he just wrote right to left. When he had to write to others, he simply switched back to normal.

Clues! (5, Funny)

Eugene Webby (891781) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746148)

Bet it has clues about jesus and coverups.

ffggggg (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746152)

gfdgfdgdfgbfgbf

i'm sure... (5, Funny)

tehwebguy (860335) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746153)

it was probably a powerbook. those artsy types are all the same.

you mean macintosh GAYS??? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746187)

artsy types so you mean GAYS? everyone knows apple guys are gays. art faggots. they fancy that design shit.

Re:you mean macintosh GAYS??? (0, Offtopic)

Marthirial (903605) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746444)

Not just gays, lazy, dumb gays. All that design shit they fancy can be done with a 45% cheaper computer that doesn't look like a microwave oven. The crassness of this comments is just to bring more flame into the discussion and make my point of how interesting human reason is. We are talking about one of the most intelligent humans in history and we managed to bring the discussion about his work into subway-sewer levels.

Re:i'm sure... (1)

Patrik_AKA_RedX (624423) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746362)

No, he used something called "paper" and "pencil". IMO we should start using those again. How practical it would, being able to write and read stuff without worrying about a battery.

Sure, but... (3, Funny)

hummassa (157160) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746402)

seek & search times are a bitch on those.

Re:i'm sure... (1)

krewemaynard (665044) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746412)

Back in my day, we had to chisel everything into stone! If you had to write an essay for class, when you were done your hands would be nothing but bloody calloused lumps! And we liked it! We LOVED it! We wouldn't have changed a thing!

I guess you ride either a horse or a bike too, seeing as how practical it is not having to worry about using gas?

Re:i'm sure... (4, Funny)

nganju (821034) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746419)


Using Moore's Law and assuming today's fastest notebook is roughly 3GHz:

3 000 000 000 * ((1/2)^((2005 - 1508) / 1.5)) = 5.44313816 × 10-91 Hz ...was the clock speed of Davinci's powerbook. And you think YOUR notebook loads Adobe slowly...

Stamped (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746156)

If you look at the pages it would seem that someone has physically stamped every other page.

About time (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746157)

Wow you would think something like this would be out years ago :)

BTW FIRST POST BYATCH

British surgeon cracks da Vinci code (3, Interesting)

$exyNerdie (683214) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746162)

In other news today, a British surgeon cracks the Da Vinci code:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4289204.stm [bbc.co.uk]

Another version here:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_ page/0,5744,16753065%255E2703,00.html [news.com.au]

Re:British surgeon cracks da Vinci code (1)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746282)

From the linked bbc.co.uk article: "Mr Wells and Leonardo feature in The Secret of Drawing which begins on BBC Two on October 8."

Checked it on BBC text, that's today 20:10 UK time, just under 5 hours from time of this posting. Description: "The secret of drawing (new series): Andrew Graham-Dixon explores the influence that drawing has had on culture". No mention of Leonardo though, guess it's just a small part of the subject matter.

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Re:British surgeon cracks da Vinci code (1)

brian0918 (638904) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746436)

Thank you Captain Dupevious.

At last (5, Funny)

squoozer (730327) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746164)

Of course they are only allowed to do this because the copyright period has just expired.

Re:At last (1)

Slashdiddly (917720) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746306)

Fear not! I bet there is now a copyright on this particular scan.

Original? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746556)

I bet there is now a copyright on this particular scan.

Was there substantial new material added to each scan to make the additions an original work? If not, then no dice, at least under U.S. law.

Fake !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746166)

There is no code in this !!

Where's the DaVinci code ??

It doesn't work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746167)

It needs some plugin (http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs /director/sw.cab#version=8,5,1,0 [macromedia.com] ) that I don't seem to have. I've got flash installed. Anyone know what this is?

Re:It doesn't work? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746175)

Write a nasty letter to the British Museum's tech department.
No need for Shockwave "Director" for displaying a few simple images.
Hell, porn sites manage streaming video just in flash.

And Java would work as well or better for both.

Anyway.
No, Macromedia has never released that for linux. Probably requires DirectX or something.

Needs Shockwave (4, Informative)

pipacs (179230) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746168)

Needs Shockwave. Thank you, goodbye.

Re:Needs Shockwave (5, Informative)

the_unknown_soldier (675161) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746196)

from their site:

There are also alternative [www.bl.uk] non-Shockwave versions of three of the volumes. More will be added soon.

Re:Needs Shockwave (2, Interesting)

Seehund (86897) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746234)

"Accessible version of the British Library's Turning the Pages system for viewing our great books."

So they do understand that the proprietary-plugin-dependent version is inaccessible! :)
Well, that's a start, I guess. Soon they might find out that it's unnecessary and pointless too.

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

Curmudgeonlyoldbloke (850482) | more than 8 years ago | (#13747084)

What they've done is actually extremely useful - they've provided a perfect example of what Shockwave is NOT useful for.

The non-Shockwave version of the Lindisfarne Gospels work quite well (assuming that you open multiple pages in browser tabs, and zoom in and out of images as required).

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

pipacs (179230) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746246)

Thanks, but these are three unrelated books. Over time, hopefully...

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

idonthack (883680) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746464)

They don't have the DaVinci drawings in a non-Shockwave format. Just Golden Haggadah, Lindisfarne Gospels, and Blackwell's Herbal.
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Mod Parent Down, Please. Link is a waste of time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746477)

The link is a waste of time. There is no non-shockwave version for Da Vinci's notebook. Which is a pity. But I didn't appreciate the waste of time spent on discovering this.

Re:Needs Shockwave (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746497)

Considering that the British Library decided on using Adobe's eBook format (Windows and Mac only) for deliverying reprints of old journal articles to research institutions, it is not a surprise here either.

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

Reziac (43301) | more than 8 years ago | (#13747111)

Except for the leetle problem that if you have javascript disabled, the non-flash page instantly refreshes back to the flash-only page. (If you're quick with the STOP button you can freeze it there, but if not.. round and round you go.)

Come on, folks, if you want to make something accessable, do it for everyone, not just for the "right" browser settings!

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

kraut (2788) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746197)

There's a shockwave-free link [www.bl.uk] for at least some of them.

Re:Needs Shockwave (3, Insightful)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746309)

Not being a luddite, I of course used the Shockwave version. If you had tried it also, you would've noted that there was a good reason for it: it includes a cool magnifier to view the pages, as well as some other neat features.

Thank god we have people out there that aren't afraid to use technology to make things better, even if a small number of people whine about it. If people like you ran the world, we'd still be stuck using 80x25 column green screens.

And, as other people have pointed out, there is an alternative link. Nice of them.

Re:Needs Shockwave (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746344)

Everyone who doesn't use a platform supported by Macromedia is a Luddite? Everyone who sits at a system supported by Macromedia but without privileges to install their plugin is a Luddite?

You might want to look up the word Luddite.

This has nothing to do with refusal to accept new technology only because it's new. This has to do with software availability.

Re:Needs Shockwave (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746372)

It's not the use of technology, it's the use of a technology only available for two operating systems. Good call though, you really got the number on those luddite linux and bsd users. Nobody, but nobody, loves hacking away on computers like those luddites.

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

ScottyH (791307) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746733)

I wish I had some mod points, because I want to mod you down badly, you close minded fool.

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

codefreez (241042) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746768)

Uhh, how is that close minded? The problem is, unless I'm mistaken, that non-Windows and MacOS users can't view this at all (at least without doing something like using the crossover plugin to run the shockwave player.)

Re:Needs Shockwave (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13747048)

Well it seems a bit close-minded to get up in arms about what is less then 1% of the people viewing websites. The fact that they provided a rich environment to view these works is good. As in all business models trying to sort out the final 10% of a probelm is always dispraportinatly expensive.

You can always get the text from project guttenburg, but then that's not a rich environment.

Stop whinging, you made a choice for a small platform and so that has consiquences. It's people who criticise these projects because they are not inclusive of a tiny minority of users that are vastly short sighted. Afterall they did not have to do anything other then show the books once every 20 years under glass in the British Library. The fact that they have done so and provided commentries and the ability to magnify etc should be applauded.

Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

Almost-Retired (637760) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746794)

Nice, needs shockwave. Sure, hit the macromedia site, follow the shockwave links, and get told that a 20 day old mozilla-1.7.12 install is some oddball thing they don't support. "If running netscape, please upgrade to at least 6.1." Lemme see, that would be what, 5 years old now?

What time warp are these folks at macromedia living in?

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Re:Needs Shockwave (1)

GiMP (10923) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746919)

The odd thing is that while they have a Linux flash player, there is *still* no shockwave player for Linux... but I think we stopped complaining about that at least 5 years ago.

MY NOTEBOOK SAYS: (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746169)

My notebook says:
 
Fuck, don't ever drink alcohol! You lose your control to think clearly and you lose your ability to actually maky anything sensible. You can write a line of code while you're under the influence of alcohol.
 
I'm drunk now and I'm just wondering - why did I have to drink this morning? Why did I want to make me feel the way I do right now. I can't do anything sensible so this is another saturday wasted.
 
Fuck I need to stand up and stop drinking alcohol ever again. BSD kernel gugu Jordan Hubbard ditched alcohol over ten years ago and I think I'm going to do the same. I want to be me, that's why it's time to ditch alcohol. No more alcohol for me - ever.

Re:MY NOTEBOOK SAYS: (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746213)

Ok, show of hands:

Who thinks Slashdot need to give a breathalyzer test to users before they let you press the Submit button?

MOD PARENT UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746256)

Hehe! That was a good one :)

Re:MY NOTEBOOK SAYS: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746286)

Even while drunk, you were more intelligent than 99% of the people on here.

This is why... (3, Informative)

zegebbers (751020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746171)

the internet is amazing. To be able to view this sort of document almost instantly is fantastic. Thank you British Library.

For those who would otherwise not view these, please do, in addition to the items mtneioned int he summary, there are also originals from Jane Austen, Lewis Carroll and the first atlas of Europe. Amazing.

Great, but only the beginning.... (2, Insightful)

dr. loser (238229) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746173)

This is a wonderful start to providing mass access to rare manuscripts.

Now if only they would post the complete papers of Milo Rambaldi [dayfornight.com] ....

Re:Great, but only the beginning.... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746266)

Perhaps a better site [wikipedia.org] provides more information. Hope you didn't get suckered into believing it.

Re:Great, but only the beginning.... (1)

dr. loser (238229) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746826)

It was meant as a joke - guess I should've been a bit more explicit.

Re:Great, but only the beginning.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746906)

try the /duck tag next time. i find it gets the point across quite nicely.

Re:Great, but only the beginning.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13747213)

that would ruin the fun, the post wouldn't have ended up modded insightful that way.

Shockwave (0, Redundant)

bezzer (916829) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746174)

I'm sure they could have chosen something better to use than shockwave. If they were released as PDFs, then it would be much more accessable for those you don't have shockwave installed. There was also a weird problem in using the magnifying glass. Sometimes when releasing the magnifyer, the window would minimise, which is really annoying.

Re:Shockwave (2, Insightful)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746188)

Well, if they were available as pfds, they werent accessible at all for anybody besides schoolars that are intimate in his language and calligraphy.

The explaining texts and voiceovers are the real meat of this thing.

Re:Shockwave (1)

mikael (484) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746569)

If you visit the website, you can see they wanted to add various animation effects, including flicking to the previous and next pages, and having the paper around the wooden handles of a scroll appear to increase and decrease in diameter as the user moves through the document.

Not the only treasure (4, Interesting)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746179)

There's the original manuscript of Alice in Wonderland on there, too. Very cool!

Messy handwriting (1)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746182)

Sheeesh, he had some messy handwriting. You think he could have taken a little care.

A design document without use cases ? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746185)

...with crappy graphics and in a unreadable language...

Bad Leonard !!
I'm sure this guy is a kernel developer

pdf (2)

rhyd (614491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746207)

godDamn motherfucking flash. If ever there was content perfect for pdf format it would be these books. I'd love to know the justification - probably to stop printing or something. No matter how lavishly illustrated a 14th century Hebrew manuscript might be, I am dubious that its going to contain any animated images, background music, or annoying soundeffects, or blinking text or any of the myriad of shiny accesibility-blocking nonsense that justifies macromedias devil-spawn. Personally i would have preferred plain html translated text and annotations with thumnailed pngs linking to the original scanned image - too simple? Although close the limited accesibility subset provided requires realplayer - rediculous.

Re:pdf (2, Funny)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746253)

rediculous

So it's not only diculous, it's re-diculous? That's twice as diculous!

Not to ridicule your spelling or anything, since your larger point feels about right. Plain HTML and simple images seem so much more sensible, and platform agnostic. But then, I'm an old-fashioned guy. I don't like
tags, either.

Re:pdf (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746653)

Not to ridicule your spelling or anything

I think you mean redicule.

Re:pdf (1)

rhyd (614491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746694)

that is incorrect.
the correct spelling of rhyd-icule is :
r h y d i c u l e
rhyd-icule
now try :
spelling-nazi

Re:pdf (4, Insightful)

Declarent (628681) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746455)

I wasn't aware you could put voice commentary, the magnifier, and the text reversing mirror in a PDF document.

This is where we, as technophiles go wrong. The only thing that matters to us is the technology used to deliver the content, and we want the content to conform.

Everyone else wants the content to look and feel a certain way, and just select a tool out of the toolbox to make it so.

I think movies should be in PDF, too! One frame per page, that way everyone can see them without having to download a different tool!

It's not about the glass, it's about the water.

Accessible? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#13747305)

The only thing that matters to us is the technology used to deliver the content, and we want the content to conform.

What if some of us have a disability, and some technologies are designed to better accommodate disabilities than other technologies are?

I think movies should be in PDF, too!

That's called a "storyboard" or a "graphic novelization".

available via project gutenberg (5, Informative)

rillopy (650792) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746222)

The complete notebooks have been available from project gutenberg for a year and a half (without the pictures) at: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/5000 [gutenberg.org] It's also been on the top 100 list for a long time.

Re:available via project gutenberg (1)

kalidasa (577403) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746907)

In an English translation. The MSS the BL is offering are facsimiles of the original with illustrations, in the original Italian.

If he was supposed to be so smart (2, Funny)

Mr. Neutron (3115) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746241)

how come he didn't write in English?

Re:If he was supposed to be so smart (1)

Maqueo (766442) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746582)

As you hopefully eventually might find out, a lot of smart people are unamerican ;)

Re:If he was supposed to be so smart (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746709)

They are apparently humorless as well.

Re:If he was supposed to be so smart (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746584)

Well... what does that say about English.

What about Paul? (4, Funny)

writermike (57327) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746254)

Why is "Paul is dead" written backwards on page three?

Does anyone know? [[shrugs]]

Re:What about Paul? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746833)

Because if Paul were alive, Christians wouldn't need a monkey holding a nuke to lead them into bloodfest and slaughter.

Notation in margin... (4, Funny)

TFGeditor (737839) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746272)

...that Mona Lisa is such a bitch!

Re:Notation in margin... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746679)

Everyone here *is* aware of the theory that the Mona Lisa is actually a DaVinci self-'portrait', and that the smile is likely because the 'model' knows something you don't, right?

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Great.. Shockwave.. Grrr (0, Redundant)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746279)

Yet another thing i wont be viewing.

F-em

Re:Great.. Shockwave.. Grrr (2)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746390)

Why do you feel the need to announce this?

You're a proud rebel?

Plenty of people had already mentioned that it was Shockwave. And I'm sure that the reason that you can't view Shockwave is one of choice...

In fascist italy... (5, Funny)

cached (801963) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746294)

in Italia fascista, i taccuini li pubblicano

Re:In fascist italy... (1)

dedioste (797427) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746784)

What do you mean?

Re:In fascist italy... (1)

jonbryce (703250) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746931)

Translated from Italian to English

"In fascist Italy, the notebook publishes you."

Page 1: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13747004)

primo alberino!!!!111

Philosopher's stone (1)

Sattwic (545957) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746319)

Bet some consipracy theories and books to come out now!

Awesome! (3, Funny)

Dirtside (91468) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746349)

I hope there's something in there about the making of Titanic. I loved that movie.

what about the Necronomicon ? (2, Funny)

tyroneking (258793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746406)

I can't wait until that comes on-line; I'm booking my trip to the Arctic right now...

Re:what about the Necronomicon ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746649)

not sure if you were joking or not, but the necronomicon is just a piece of h.p. lovecraft fiction. I get a chuckle when I see goth types taking it seriously

Re:what about the Necronomicon ? (1)

mattthomas (857940) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746782)

Re:what about the Necronomicon ? (1)

tyroneking (258793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13747088)

On my god! Sanity check ...

Da Vinci's Notebook (3, Funny)

Mr2001 (90979) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746411)

Most people remember Leonardo Da Vinci for his paintings and inventions, but did you know Da Vinci's Notebook also has history's first recorded biography of The Sneak [homestarrunner.com] ?

Important draft work (4, Funny)

hotspotbloc (767418) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746420)

It's amazing that atleast one of his earlier drafts [nyud.net] of his work at the Sistine Chapel [vatican.va] survived.

Let us give thanks to the FSM [wikipedia.org] for this miracle.

Re:Important draft work (4, Funny)

dedioste (797427) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746774)

"It's amazing that at least one of his earlier drafts of his work at the Sistine Chapel survived."

It's even more amazing when you think that Michelangelo did the Decorations of the Sistine Chapel!

Re:Important draft work (1)

UserGoogol (623581) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746846)

Yeah, they originally hired Leonardo, but then the Church wouldn't let him paint it because apparently the Flying Spaghetti Monster contradicts some bits of the Catholic dogma.

Damned heathens.

Advent Of E-Books (1)

mercedo (822671) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746520)

This is the very autoritative beginning of the advent of e-books, welcome!

Let's just hope... (0)

Bill Currie (487) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746577)

nobody swipes the book to extract Leonardo's DNA to produce an evil clone. No telling what he'll come up with to destroy the world.

Major Boost to Conspiracy Theorists (1)

donnacha (161610) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746659)

One aspect of the notebooks sure to excite conspiracy theorists is the fact that 87% of the illustrations of Jesus' penis and Mary Magdelene's vagina.

Format of the pages (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13746703)

I could not agree more about the goddamflash comments. I am not able to praise the guy who developed the Flashblock Firefox extension enough. This one single extension has improved the quality of my web life more than ANYTHING else in the past couple of years. To split hairs this website uses Shockwave not Flash per se - however the experience of shockwave is just as viral as flash. Same difference really. Note that the site does say that there are non shockwave versions of 3 of the books (haven't actually explored this so these could be Flash alternatives - gawd, hopefully not) There's also an link to make comments via email about the "Turning the Pages" site. That is a wonderful opportunity for everyone to persuade the designers to use a more friendly format and ditch the Flash/Shockwave crap.

www.bl.uk (2, Interesting)

rkww (675767) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746980)

Notice how they've got a whole second level domain to themselves - not www.bl.co.uk or www.bl.gov.uk, just www.bl.uk.

The other notebook (2, Funny)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 8 years ago | (#13746994)

I prefer the other Da Vinci's Notebook [tperkins.com] ... (Get the MP3 here [tperkins.com] ).

Is it mirrored? (3, Funny)

NaveNosnave (670012) | more than 8 years ago | (#13747098)

Ha ha! Get it? Da Vinci...handwriting...mirrored [fineartforum.org] ? Ah ha ha! I kill myself!

BREAKING NEWS!!! (1)

kurbchekt (890891) | more than 8 years ago | (#13747336)

Brought to you from Weekly World News:

Leonardo da Vinci's brain has come back to life and in cooperation with the RIAA, is sueing the British Library for providing free access to his creative works!

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