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Lightsabers Recalled

CmdrTaco posted more than 15 years ago | from the I'm-keeping-mine dept.

Star Wars Prequels 67

SEWilco writes "Gee, imagine that. Lightsabers can really burn people. Um.. oh, yeah, there's a toy recall now on some models. " I have a Qui-Gonn and a Darth Maul saber that I ain't given back.

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Re:You don't have to give them back (1)

C.Lee (1190) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831528)


That was a joke, son......

Re:Gibson angle (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831529)

A strong electromagnet in the handle would keep the bucky-tube tight. (the superconductor would be repelled by the electromagnet)
This makes an interesting weapon, because if someone pulled a gun on you while you were carrying it, the magnetism would pull the gun to you, probably with enough force to accelerate it to enough speed to be quite dangerous. Instead, imagine how you would design a weapon like this but using ordinary string.

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831530)

I thought that lightsabers were only for children. You guys are losers who should be beaten not with a lightsaber toy, but with a good old fashioned baseball bat about the head.

lears@bigpond.com

Re:Upgrade kit? (1)

chromatic (9471) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831531)


Wow! I'll be able to install something in my lightsaber. I get closer to being a Jedi every day.

Hmm, do they have Debian packages, or should I just grab the tarball?

Maybe when I'm ready I can make my own. I want a yellow blade. Or a white one. Enough green, blue, and red crap. Additive colors just don't do it these days.

I can't resist:
Use the source, Luke.

--
QDMerge -- generate documents automatically.

Re:Recall notices (1)

Gleepy (16226) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831532)

Actually, battery overheating leads to ALKALI burns, not acid burns. Potassium hydroxide is the wrong electrolyte at the wrong end of the pH scale. Nevertheless, alkali burns also are the path to the Dark Side.
--

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831533)

(All you flamers who think this is stupid...it's a *theoretical* discussion. Purely for academic purposes. Heh)
I thought those comments on the laser itself zipping out of the handle was a pretty nifty idea, but you'd have to bend space or something, since light doesn't bend easily. Black holes *do* bend light (though I don't know whether it's the gravity or the bending of space (or whether there's a difference)). So if you jammed a whole lot of matter into the thing somehow (ignoring the fact that you'd have a difficult time swinging something heavier than a star)... But then you run into the problem that the blade would go through anything. *Including* another blade. There are hints of a "force field", which made me think of contained plasma in a magnetic field, like those fusion reactors, which would answer a lot of questions nicely, and what I suspect the original story designers were probably hinting at, but then you get lots of radiated heat, which is a bad thing.

Here's my take. This doesn't go with the dramatic "blade of light" philosophy well, but whatever...
What if you're just working with a superheated (white hot) piece of metal. Yeah, it would give off heat like crazy, but if you had some sort of heat transfering device that could keep the handle cool (get me one of those for my AC, woohoo), I suspect that the radiated heat would be *bearable*, unlike plasma. Of course, this wouldn't just slice through steel like a knife through butter, as in the movies, but it *would* be pretty unpleasant to be stuck with it. Sort of like fighting with a flaming sword, like in every D&D scenerio known to man...may not be very practical, but doable. People work around molten metal all the time.

You have to wonder just how much heat Luke's saber would have to give off, though, even if it was just this. You would *not* want to be stuck in a small room with it on.

Here's another idea. You put a really amped-up electromagnet in the handle. Then, you start firing some extremely small slivers of heavy metal (one affected by magnets...is uranium?) from the handle. The slivers shoot out in a ring at the base of the "blade", and are sucked back in to the electromagnet in the middle. Once there, they are fired out again. I suppose if you heated them up quite a bit (or...if they're moving at the speed expected, you'd probably generate a lot of heat already from air resistance), you'd get a nice glow. Various types of elements glow different colors when heated, so by adding specific elements to the metals, you could get designer colors (a la StarWars). Hmm...there's be a lot of wind movement generated, and a lot of surface area, so you'd give off a *lot* of heat. More than my "molten bar of metal" idea. Plus, the tip of the blade wouldn't be very effective, at the tip of the slivers' trajectory. Still, the blade would do the cutting that the lightsabers did very effectively (A-10s fire depleted uranium shells, which cut nicely through whatever tank armor is made out of...and it only takes a second or so long burst to do so). Disadvantages: you'd have an enormously powerful electromagnet in the base. This would be a bad thing if you have metal nearby (esp. in the metal Death Star...your light sabre would just cling to the walls...or, more likely, crumple the walls in on itself). There'd be tons of heat given off, and lots of convection currents generated...sort of like a radiator. The tip of the blade wouldn't be as effective. I don't know whether you can make a trajectory that would approximate the shape of Lucas' lightsabers (remember, they were just drawn over some real sticks with tape on them...so it's not like Lucas was into hard-core physics on this). Especially with the strength of the magnetic field decreasing rapidly away from the base. Unless you had one *darn* powerful magnet, these slivers would have a good bit of time outside of the blade, and when rapidly moving the saber, the blade would "bend" a bit backwards.

Hmm...you could solve some of that by making the blades out of buckystructures...make them immensely powerful magnets in addition to the main magnet. They wouldn't "turn around"...just head out with their tips forward, and then head back with their tips the same way. They'd be tougher than uranium, so they could keep being cycled around and around (carbon buckystructures are pretty tough). You might lose some of the color this way (unless you integrate extra atoms into the buckystructures..you'd have to have solid nanotechnology to do this), but I guess you could do this. Heck, if you can make them insulate well, you might even solve the heat problem...just let their mass (and the heat generated at impact) do the "cutting", and cool them each time they get back to the handle.

You could block "blaster shots" (whatever they are), because the splinters could absorb a lot...as I said, the buckystructures are incredibly tough. If the blaster shots are energy-based, they'd expend themselves, and if matter-based (bullets or whatever), the bullets would get chewed up. Of course, you'd feel the impact in your hands (splinters move, move base on magnetic field), but I don't see how else you could do anything.

You'd need a heck of a lot of constantly inputted energy to do this...or, wait, I guess a superconducting electromagnet would work. Yeah, if you have the nanotech to do the splinters, you can undoubtedly do superconducting electromagnets. Yeah. There you have it, folks. Luke's lightsabre...*with* color! Kind of pointless...I mean, if you can manipulate molecules this well, you can make much more nasty weapons than lighsabres (custom engineered little robots that act like viruses...), but whatever.

I used to do this kind of envisioning -- how can you make sci-fi stuff, (in theory is fair), and what obstacles would you run into? Take teleporting, everyone's favorite sci-fi effect. Ever think of pressure differences? 100 feet or more of altitute change on a planet like Earth instantaneously is *hard* on people. Teleporting even 100 feet up or down is out of the question unless you do some serious work. Since nanotech would be required to construct a "new person" at the other end, you could theoretically identify air pockets, and add additional air molecules in, but seeing as it'd hard even to identify what's human and what's unnecessary air/clothing/ground, etc, I don't think you want to add more to the computer's workload. Heh...given today's image recognition algorithms, I'm not sure I want to trust a computer's guess at what's me and what's ground. ("Well...the copy has everything but an inch or so of feet, and there's a bit missing off the surface of the eyeballs..." Yeesh.).

Interestingly enough, if we *could* teleport, should we destroy the original copy of the person or not? StarTrek does...but isn't that akin to cloning (well, not cloning, but something like it) and subsequent murder? There's a sci-fi book...Cuckoo something...Cuckoo's Song, Cuckoo's Egg...dunno, where the author thought of exactly that...the originals stay. People who's presence is required all over (sucessful/talented, or whatever) have tons of copies running around all over.

Re:Upgrade kit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831534)

Hey, that's good. Signature material.

Re:Hey, these are better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831535)

Or some type of plastic. Or just coat it.

Re:Hey, these are better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831536)

Jeez. Look at the prices. I must be reading something wrong. Electronics: $25. Tube: $40. Batteries: ~$10 (being generous). They charge you $385 for the largest sword. WTF?!?!?! How can they justify charging $310 for a stupid glorified *battery* case (the handle casing)? Well...at least they let you buy the goodies dirt cheap...

This reminds me of Red Hat. Heh. $100 for Red Hat 6.0...but we'll also give you blazing-fast FTP sites to download it for free. Yeah. Just cut it back to $50, people.

Re:Gibson angle (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831537)

Well, if lightsabers could cut through anything, why did Luke's lightsaber bounce off Vader's armor?

Upgrading lightsaber versions (1)

the_tsi (19767) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831538)

I'd grab the tarball and compile. The older (Vader/Luke) lightsabers use libc5. The new ones (Quigon/Maul) are glibc based. They have completely incompatible screw types, among other things. Since it's only the new ones that need the upgrade, I guess it's proof that the old ones are better. Slackware all the way, baby.

-Chris

Darnit (1)

AnalogBoy (51094) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831539)

I found this out earlier today as i went to the local toy store. They had already taken them off the shelves. I had just gotten paid. I had been eyeing them both all week. Its just not fair. *tear up*

variable swords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831540)

They were invented by the Tnuctipun about 2 billion years ago (in Niven's Known Space universe). They are mentioned in many of his stories. I think the first appearance, however, is indeed in "Ringworld".

You don't have to give them back (2)

X-ViRGE (44659) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831541)

If you read the article, you'll see that you just have to call up Hasbro and they'll send you a kit to fix them.

You know (1)

/ (33804) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831542)

This'll only make the things more valuable to collectors. Most of 'em never take the things out of the package anyway, much less waste any of the precious fuel in the "original batteries -- oooooh!".

lightsabers that really burn people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831543)

I wonder if anyone is activly trying to figure out how to make a "real" light saber... It's a common topic for idle conversation among me and my friends (heehee, we're dorks), but is anyone paid to do it?

I wish people would read the stories too... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831544)

The only thing more annoying that people posting stupid comments before reading the story is having the story posted by someone who didn't read all of the story in the first place...

repair kit, not necessarily recall (1)

Nathan Brazil (13299) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831545)

Reading the article it's clear you don't have to "give it back"... You can just order the free repair kit and do it yourself. Good way to keep collectors from worrying, anyway.

Looking at the market for SWE1 toys, though, I suspect that collectors will never have to worry about their items becoming rare.

Upgrade kit? (1)

the_tsi (19767) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831546)

Wow! I'll be able to install something in my lightsaber. I get closer to being a Jedi every day.

Maybe when I'm ready I can make my own. I want a yellow blade. Or a white one. Enough green, blue, and red crap. Additive colors just don't do it these days.

-Chris

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

iapetus (24050) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831547)

And, of course, they suffer from the same problem as all futuristic sword-type weapons, in that you become incredibly vulnerable to anyone with a gun. Without the ability to use the force to deflect bullets you're pretty much dead...

Re:You know (1)

the_tsi (19767) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831548)

They don't come with batteries, unfortunately. And they can suck the batteries you DO get dry real fast if you live anywhere near friends with lightsabers. Until they break.

Anyone have a Luke saber blade to sell? :)

-Chris

Recall notices (3)

John Campbell (559) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831549)

Am I the only one who thought that, "Customers should stop using these lightsabers immediately," was funny?

"Your lightsaber use you should not. Defective, your lightsaber is, mmm?

"Use leads to spring dislodging. Spring dislodging leads to battery overheating. Battery overheating leads to acid burns. Acid burns are the path to the Dark Side..."

Any way to save those streams ? (0)

Murphy(c) (41125) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831550)

Just wondering if anyone had a trick to download the file, and not just play it.

cause I wanna play it in loops, even when I'm offline :)

Murphy

Me Either (1)

OSWARS (52469) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831551)

Yea Rob! We had good fights at LE I'm not givin mine back either!

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831552)

I always thought it was the compressed blaster gas that bounced off the light beam... but that leads to another question "How can a lightsaber cut through anything, save another lightsaber?" I could understand, perhaps, if the two were the same color. Oh, well, the world may never know.

Real Imagination (1)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831553)

Well, my kids like the acrylic tube illuminated with a gas laser, but a real light saber can't be built with our current technologies. Others already gave physics and engineering reasons.

If we ever achieve something like a force field then a lightsaber or Niven's "variable sword" become more possible. But then there will be a lot of other gadgets too...

Anyone know the physics behind the teleportation experiments? Is only a photon state being teleported, or could the "strong force" be teleported without an atom?

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

Dreamweaver (36364) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831554)

Dont see why they would be.. the way they're explained in star wars books is severely improbable (and only that because saying impossible is never a good thing) and even if you managed to make one using pre-created plasma held in place with a very interestingly shaped magnetic field ('cause they dont form in that shape under any conitions i can think of) it'd still be an essentially useless weapon. The balance would be hideous, you couldnt look directly at the thing, and unless you found some magic way to make temperature falloff faster than physically possible, you couldnt hold it in your hand without said hand turning into charcoal.
Dreamweaver

lightsabers that _work_ (1)

RoLlEr_CoAsTeR (39353) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831555)

the concept of a lightsaber actually cutting through things is akin, in my mind, to the idea of a laser actually cutting through something. apparently, it is the intensity of the thing (or something of that nature) that allows it to sever objects and create various other forms of destruction. back to the laser thought, we have laser pointers, lasers in our CD players, etc, that don't cut through objects, and then you have industrial and medical lasers, that do. plus, if anyone ever reads "Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology" by Bill Smith, they'd know all about lightsabers....

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831556)

You have to remember that guns at melee ranges are at best not very useful. At worst, worse than nothing. Lightsabers are physically able to deflect objects like blaster bolts, but if you're not a Jedi, you won't be able to use the Force to figure out where those bolts will be. Refer to the scene in Episode IV where Obi-Wan trains Luke how to do this whilst on the Millenium Falcon. In a few places, lightsabers blades are referred to as having no weight, adding to the difficulty of using these weapons.

You would not believe what I found today (1)

Cptn Proton (29372) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831557)

Speaking of lightsabers - Yard sales are popular in my area. In some camera stuff I found some vintage equipment that is a _dead ringer_ for the real light sabers. Former antique camera strobe stuff. It is _really amazing_ . I do not have the ability to post pictures or else I would. They feel _really_ good to hold too.

Not like that plastic hasbro crap. Nice aluminum. Yes, they even have cool switches on the side.

Just one step away from totally real.

Looking at the above link to the 'neon tube' lightsabers, they say that you can not use it real swordplay because it is glass.

What good is a lightsaber if you can't use it for swordplay???

Re:Recall notices (1)

Ghosty (63209) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831558)

dude, that was damn funny... I want one now...

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831559)

Sorry, your 'slivers+magnet' idea wouldn't work - metals lose their sensitivity to magnetic fields when they're heated up (iron wonks out at around 700-800C, I think), so even if you relied on air resistance to heat up the slivers instead of pre-heating them, they wouldn't be pulled back in by the magnet. Of course, you could always just forget about pulling them back - then you'd have a rather cool rail gun, which would be much more effective than any light saber.

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

xcp (14431) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831560)

"How can a lightsaber cut through anything, save another lightsaber?"

Actually in episode 5 luke's blade glances off Vaders armor, and in 6, they dont cut thru the railings... hmmm perhaps light saber quality control has dropped off over the generations.

Re:Upgrading lightsaber versions (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831561)

>Slackware all the way, baby.

You said it, m'friend. Slackware rocks.

And I'm also impressed about how you managed to twist a story about lightsabers into a distribution troll ;)

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831562)

Hand-to-hand combat.

other way around... mmm (1)

adraken (8869) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831563)

vader/luke are glibc2 and qui gonn/obi wan/maul are libc5... remember, it's a prequel.

Not for the easily offended (1)

baby fishface (14578) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831564)

If your local newspaper doesn't carry the controversial new comic strip The Boondocks [boondocks.net] , check out the lightsaber series starting here [uexpress.com] .

I know just how the kid feels.

Pretty good page - worth a look! (1)

KingBob (33381) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831565)

Kinda kewl IMHO

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

KingBob (33381) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831566)

That's a bit nasty isn't it dude....

They're not hurting anyone, well no one out of exploding battery range anyway.

It could be worse, they could be buying *special* vibrating lightsabres from the "Tool Shed" on Oxford St, Darlinghurst.

Re:Gibson angle (1)

Dreamweaver (36364) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831567)

Forget swords.. try this one on for size:
Carefully wound 'strings' of the stuff (perhaps as many as a few hundred, considering how little space they would take up), each with a small sliver of superconductor at one end, the other end attached to an unpowered electromagnet in the base of a small tube (about the size of a can of mace for example) which was itself ringed in electromagnetic coils (powered) to keep the things centerd. Some guy comes running at you with his neato-keen sword, you hold up a hand, flip the button and his head/torso region turns into a pile of fillet on the ground as the hundreds of 'strings' are propelled out of the tube at high speed..
Dreamweaver

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

Dreamweaver (36364) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831568)

Most books/movies with teleportation assume the actual body being moved is travelling.. in trek the person is broken down and their actual component molecules are sent along with a reconstruction pattern on a data stream.. kinda inefficient way of doing things, but hey. The current bleeding edge in that tech direction is some guys trying to recreate an electron by scanning it and sending the data over a cable to another location where... something is done to another electron to make it exactly emulate the firt. It's been a while since i read the article. The thing was that even if they ever got it to work on complex structures (they were planning to try a virus in a few years if the electron works out) the object being scanned is destroyed in the process.. so keeping around copies isnt an option
Dreamweaver

More info at this URL: (3)

Dast (10275) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831569)

Here. [synicon.com.au]

Re:You know (1)

PhoneMonkey (32729) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831570)

I just have to comment on how well your .sig works with the topic...

Gibson angle (1)

Ghosty (63209) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831571)

Sorry if I'm not a big Star Wars an here, but I have some thoughts. Having never read the "tecnical" manuals that are out there I can only rely on what I have read, being William Gibson. Anyone ever read Johnny Mnemonic from burning crome? (screw Keanu Reeves and that stupid movie) If you have you'd remember the idea of the micro filament that could seemingly cut through anything. (I'm getting to lightsabers)
Does any one know of the vaibility of such an idea? if so then the microfiliment in the story was obviously housed by something and something made of that material could theoretically be fassioned into a pole and have said micro filaments running the length of it side by side. Presto and sword that could cut through anything. That is if it works like the one in the book. I can't honestly say that Gibson did anything more than put preety words together when he thought up a microfilament, but if there is any base for reality in it... very sweet. Possiblly only viable for assasinations cause as someone else stated you can kill from very far away nowadays...

Hey, these are better (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831572)

http://www.amazing1.com/plasma.htm
They even have a cool mpg of a guy using one.
Scroll down a bit and they make custom handle, even a Darth Maul one.
Oh, and the also sell kits so you can make your own casings...

Re:Hey, these are better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831573)

Oops, I forgot, the bad thing about them is that they're too fragile for swordfighting...

Re: Good luck building one. (2)

webslacker (15723) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831574)

I recall in the backs of one of the Star Wars comics, they said something about the lightsaber's blade actually being an arc. It's a laser that shoots out of the handle, curves back on itself like a hairpin, and goes back into the handle. Yeesh. I think we'll be able to send Jodi Foster around the galaxy in a chair before we're able to make lightsabers.

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831575)

Not if it's only Stormtroopers that are shooting at you. Ya know the _Mormon SW Drinking Game_ ?

Re:Gibson angle (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831576)

If it's the same stuff as (one of the MANY techs briefly used in...) _Stand on Zanzibar_, it's a monomolecular chain. Brunner doesn't explain its design, however, as it's only a factor in a fairly minor "mood" vignette.



Probably makes more sense than _ST: The Next Idiocy_. With transporters, 'droids, and replicators, and the apparent ability to transport through shields in certain TNG episodes... they [all sides] miss SO many bleedin' obvious combat tactics.

Re:Upgrade kit? (1)

Mike Hicks (244) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831577)

Hmm.. I like blue -- haven't seen any blue light sabers yet (maybe I just haven't paid attention..) Maybe purple would be cool ;-)

Bright colours... (1)

KingBob (33381) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831578)

I've had enough of these bold lightsabre colours, what about some lovely pastel shades??? A jedi's best friend is not the force, it's his interior decorator!

Re:You don't have to give them back (1)

X-ViRGE (44659) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831579)

I realize that... but I doubt that everyone else will. Not everyone reads the articles that are linked, and I was simply informing people that they need not return them so they might actually fix them.

Re:Recall notices (1)

vashti (57127) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831580)

"Acid burns lead to *suffering*", shurely. :)

Re:Darnit (1)

AnalogBoy (51094) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831581)

Bwahahha.. i found one.. kinda. It doesnt make sounds, but it came with the darth maul dress-up kit. Probibly a little shorter, too. But I have one, and thats all that matters.

Though i did feel stupid for buying a complete haloween costume.. the sacrficies i make for toys..

Re:Upgrading lightsaber versions (1)

the_tsi (19767) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831582)

*and* get moderated up for it, no less. :)

-Chris

Slightly Off Topic: Light Saber Lighters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831583)

From the does-this-exist dept...

Is there a such thing as a lighter with a light saber handle?

Re:Gibson angle (1)

evilpete (26941) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831584)

yeah, it did bounce right off his wrist......
+++++

... (1)

dnxthx (22324) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831585)

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball (TM).

Re:More info at this URL: (1)

Arkham (10779) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831586)

Very cool site. Worth a look, to be sure. However, the discussions on the nature of the light sabre blade lend a lot of insight into jut how obscessed and frightening some of these people can get. This guy has obviously read ever piece of Star Wars-related literature ever published, and analyzed it extensively.

Re:Gibson angle (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1831587)

No, no no!!!!!
It bounced off "The Force" eminating a fraction of a millimeter away from Vader's arm.

:-) :-) :-) :-)


(Lotsa smilies :-)

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

SpaceCadet (63397) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831588)

Certainly, guns are not useful at melee ranges. The trouble to the soldier/warrior armed only with a sword, regardless of type, is surviving to get that close.

Re:Gibson angle (1)

Zagadka (6641) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831589)

_Fountains_of_Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke also had microfilaments. In that book they were very think carbon chains or tubes I believe. Today we'd call the tube form Bucky-Tubes [ox.ac.uk] . The ends could turn into some other structure that wouldn't cut through things. You could then have one end fastened to a handle, and then in the other end have a chunk of superconductor. A strong electromagnet in the handle would keep the bucky-tube tight. (the superconductor would be repelled by the electromagnet) Not a light-saber, but a pretty neat high-tech "blade" weapon. The blade would probably be close to invisible too...

Come to think of it, such an idea might've been proposed in a Larry Niven story, though I can't remember what, or even if...

Re:Gibson angle (1)

xantho (14741) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831590)

Perhaps the Larry Niven novel you're referring to is The Ringworld Engineers with the large night creating panels strung together with the unbreakable wires that can cut through...at least their ship.

--Hunter Pankey

Re:lightsabers that really burn people... (1)

Gartmeister (34558) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831591)

melee range?

Re:Upgrade kit? (1)

PhoneMonkey (32729) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831592)

CMY lightsabers? I like it!

Re:Hey, these are better (1)

PhoneMonkey (32729) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831593)

Hell, make it out of steel rebar and then..

*WARNING*
Disregard this post. Thank you.

-US Government.

Re:Gibson angle (1)

PhoneMonkey (32729) | more than 15 years ago | (#1831594)

Speaker-To-Animals first used one in the Niven Novel "Ringworld".
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